Super Smash Bros for Wii U: The Forgotten Gem

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  • Super Smash Bros Ultimate has held the spotlight for so long these past few years that it's easy to forget the impact Smash 4 made. Not only did it provide such an extensive and lengthy challenge for Completionists out there, but it single-handedly saved the Wii U console. Now when I last completed this game I as focusing on getting the episode out as soon as possible, and in doing so I missed a lot of my own opinions and voice about the game. With both the Wii U and the Super Smash Bros for Nintendo 3DS completed (they are both basically the same game don't let Sakurai tell you otherwise) I can do the proper Smash Bros review I wanted to.
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  • @Exceed_HS
    @Exceed_HS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +951

    “When was the last time you thought about Smash 4”
    Bayo Mains: Everyday, everyday....

    • @Raven-gx4kj
      @Raven-gx4kj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Haha don't forget cloud mains :P

    • @golddigginboi2187
      @golddigginboi2187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      4xm
      Nuff said

    • @Dani-gb4hv
      @Dani-gb4hv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why are u calling me out like that..

    • @Onlyitsmereid
      @Onlyitsmereid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not a Bayo main but I still play the game for a better online

    • @brebeaa
      @brebeaa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Like the Metaknight Brawl mains of old! 😂

  • @wizardkingrgboy1276
    @wizardkingrgboy1276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +909

    The Completionist: " Super smash bros for wii u: the FORGOTTEN gem."
    Smash 4 3ds: hold my broken circle pad

    • @julianx2rl
      @julianx2rl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I got a plastic circle pad (Its a single solid piece) And its great!
      It doesn't get as dirty, and when it does its easier to clean, it has the same rounded shape, so it fits well on the thumb, and its smooth, so its soft to the touch.
      Rubber may be mandatory for actual analogs, but the circle pad its better off without it.

    • @RyuichiNoGekido
      @RyuichiNoGekido 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I also broke my circle pad on Smash.

    • @CasuaICole
      @CasuaICole 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Hold my broken bumpers, broken 3d mode, missing stylus, and depressed circle pad.
      Actually don't, something might fall off.

    • @theirishpotato6588
      @theirishpotato6588 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same. That happened to me while playing as luigi.

    • @MadSociety-uy6zg
      @MadSociety-uy6zg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CasuaICole lmfao damn

  • @josuepaulin625
    @josuepaulin625 3 ปีที่แล้ว +727

    We can all agree that Mega Mans trailer (whether you were hyped for the character or not) was awesome.

    • @JoKeR-hh8rg
      @JoKeR-hh8rg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      i don’t think anyone expected him

    • @mechadracula3193
      @mechadracula3193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No

    • @Mister100Percent
      @Mister100Percent 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Indeed.

    • @Sly_Maverick_19
      @Sly_Maverick_19 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Dropped my jaw the first time I saw that trailer.

    • @tmobile2120
      @tmobile2120 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yeah but no one was expecting cloud to join smash. hell i recall it was a joke in kirbphor's brawl taunts video making the claim of cloud joining smash XD

  • @yggdrasilsaltar
    @yggdrasilsaltar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +569

    never forget the fact smash 3ds was the superior version due to the fact smash run exists

    • @aegisring
      @aegisring 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      And it was the first way to play smash on the go

    • @rileyk5228
      @rileyk5228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Was meh about smash run but man it was better than what wiiu had

    • @bumpsy
      @bumpsy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      always thought it controlled horribly with the 3DS being the controller. It felt cramped and every small hand movement made the game harder to play. But it definitely was a nice handheld rendition

    • @adenhogan8901
      @adenhogan8901 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My man

    • @Christopher-md7tf
      @Christopher-md7tf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Never forget that Jirard thought Ultimate was a port of Smash 4 lol

  • @Monkeyman249
    @Monkeyman249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Completing this game with no golden hammers is one of my proudest gaming moments to date. This game still has a major soft spot in my heart and it makes me a little sad that people have thrown it under the bus since Ultimate. I think Ultimate is definitely better, but it’s sad to see this one forgotten.

    • @BradTheDead
      @BradTheDead 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't really see what's so sad about it. Ultimate is just way better overall and that's a good thing!

    • @superkulty64
      @superkulty64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would say one of the few things that Smash 4 excels better at compared to Ultimate (speaking from a competitive standpoint) is the controls and buffer system. Smash 4 actually controls decently well and you can still feel precise with proper timing and inputs. However, bc Ultimate has a huge buffer window, it makes misinputs much more frequent and can lead to actions that you don't want a lot more times than you think. It makes Ultimate very clunky and unresponsive for precise play.

    • @ericmay560
      @ericmay560 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@superkulty64 I’ve been saying that the combat FEELS better in 4, but I’ve never had a way to describe it.

    • @superkulty64
      @superkulty64 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ericmay560 I would agree with you to some degree. The mechanics are arguably better in Ultimate, but at the cost of control due to terrible buffer system, awful c-stick and loss of cool movement options like perfect pivoting. Worse controls makes Ultimate arguably worse than Smash 4 imo.

  • @disneyvillainsfan1666
    @disneyvillainsfan1666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +293

    One of the differences between the trophies in previous Smash Titles and The Spirits in Ultimate is The Descriptions for the Trophies. They tell you a little about about the Characters, Items, and locations that you get Trophies of. Spirits however don't have any information on them. At All.

    • @kingofthesharks
      @kingofthesharks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      The descriptions were invaluable for me back in the Gamecube days, as the internet was still formative and you couldn't just Wikipedia whatever trophy you got iirc. It even teased Animal Crossing before release since KK Slider was a trophy from a "future release" game.

    • @Raven-gx4kj
      @Raven-gx4kj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Melee and brawl are still the best for trophies :)

    • @jackcottle8144
      @jackcottle8144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Spirits just feel like JPGs

    • @golddigginboi2187
      @golddigginboi2187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jackcottle8144 they are

    • @DarkRen08-
      @DarkRen08- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@golddigginboi2187 thats the point of spirits, they simply said: fuck we dont have time for trophies lets make character.png based equipment but with events for each one and make it an excuse for no trophies in the game

  • @Seth22x
    @Seth22x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    Everyone forgets that home run contest is actually in smash ultimate

    • @jakeford1101
      @jakeford1101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is

    • @golddigginboi2187
      @golddigginboi2187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I wish we had break the targets or smash run

    • @gokublack9724
      @gokublack9724 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Maybe we'll get break the targets and the ACTUAL All-Star mode once the last dlc update comes

    • @captainpep3
      @captainpep3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@gokublack9724 all star mode is good in ultimate

    • @danitabori
      @danitabori 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@captainpep3 I like most of the multiman modes, but I hate the Ultimate version of All-star mode. Is it even possbile to finish it? I try it always with the new DLC character but don't have any motivation to complete it. If it would be like in Brawl and smash 4, which is like the arena modes in Kirby games, then I would do it more often. The only good things imo is that we can choose how the stage looks and which music track plays during it but I'd like to go through different levels and different songs.

  • @canopro7000
    @canopro7000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    "The blackest man in gaming, put some RESPECT on his name" -The Completionist

  • @Adriano991b
    @Adriano991b 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    We also can't forget how Smash 4 made us all hyped with every Nintendo Direct, with a possible DLC character coming. How can I forget Etika reacting to Cloud coming to Smash. RIP, Etika. Respect.

  • @trueblueryu5713
    @trueblueryu5713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +268

    Wii U version: Currently hated
    3DS Version: “Wait, that actually did exist?”

    • @lordkaijux5262
      @lordkaijux5262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I think the latter can be said for both versions since Ultimate pretty much made the Wii U game obsolete.

    • @SlimeBlueMS
      @SlimeBlueMS 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Literally the reason I got a Switc, totally made U obsolete lol

    • @theirishpotato6588
      @theirishpotato6588 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've only had the 3ds one. F.

    • @oranjolt
      @oranjolt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It had smash run and better stages then WII U. That's all you need to know.

  • @GraemeStanfordWilson
    @GraemeStanfordWilson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Home Run mode IS in Ultimate.

    • @minecraftmayneax
      @minecraftmayneax 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It wasn’t at launch ;)

    • @SD-uw7zu
      @SD-uw7zu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@minecraftmayneax but it’s still there

  • @montanawhisler1066
    @montanawhisler1066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I can't believe that I just got nostalgia from the damn Wii U menu music

  • @thatclipmakerguy9959
    @thatclipmakerguy9959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +324

    Seeing someone play the Wii U in 2021 makes me feel happy

    • @Demopugz
      @Demopugz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I miss nintendo land

    • @thatclipmakerguy9959
      @thatclipmakerguy9959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Demopugz hopefully that makes the jump to the Switch as well

    • @diesel-ruthless2662
      @diesel-ruthless2662 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Demopugz Nintendo land brings back so many memories

    • @jakethegamer3974
      @jakethegamer3974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I still use mine

    • @BlurryGhost
      @BlurryGhost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It's definitely underrated console. Just bought mine back in January. Love the system. Too bad it didn't get the shine it deserves.

  • @okanut
    @okanut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    It has been a while. This was such a big deal when it came out.

  • @Shaunmizer
    @Shaunmizer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    He's right this is a gem i really miss those special missions and customizable moves you can give to characters ah good times

    • @ToyKeeper
      @ToyKeeper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I miss the custom moves too. They should have expanded it in Ultimate instead of getting rid of it.

    • @kirbyridingyoshi28
      @kirbyridingyoshi28 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ToyKeeper The reason there were no custom moves in ultimate (besides miis) was because there were a ton of characters, making it just unrealistic to create custom moves for all of them.

    • @Shaunmizer
      @Shaunmizer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kirbyridingyoshi28 yea you got a point but if it was realistic imagine how certain characters would benefit from it

    • @jjsix6943
      @jjsix6943 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Shaunmizer yes but I went to a competitive tournament with custom moves and people just spammed them and won donkey Kong in particular

    • @zephyr7237
      @zephyr7237 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ofc, every Smash game is a gem.

  • @ZiggityZeke
    @ZiggityZeke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I really miss the custom special moves from 4... Megaman's in particular were so fucking cool. I actually farmed out most of them on both 3DS and Wii U

    • @ToyKeeper
      @ToyKeeper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I miss the custom moves too. Farming them was a pain, but they otherwise did a great job of keeping the game interesting. Was hoping they'd keep the feature in Ultimate and allow it online, but instead they dropped it entirely.

    • @buchiklop110
      @buchiklop110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Custom Moves would have been far more well received if you couldn't get repeats. Why they decided to allow repeats is beyond me.

    • @thepastaprogenitor851
      @thepastaprogenitor851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Anyone remember link's stronger arrows that killed at like 60 or dr. Mario's super cyclone that made his down B actually good at killing and recovering?

    • @Ansemthewise59
      @Ansemthewise59 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I always loved the more outrageous moves like Link's giant bombs or Donkey Kong's wind vortex punch! So much fun!

  • @gamermanzeake
    @gamermanzeake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    The homerun contest is in Smash Ultimate. It was an update near a year ago. So that information is dated in this video. Check it out! It's a pretty great rendition of the mode!

    • @danitabori
      @danitabori 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I don't like that mode at all but I was surprised how he kept showing it in the video when he was talking about things missing in Ultimate lol
      Anyway, I would've liked to have any of the past modes come back isntead of the homerun contest. I didn't like it Brawl and in Smash 3DS and don't care for it in Ultimate either. Boss battle mode would've been much more exciting especially with all the awesome bosses un ultimate. I would've even liked the rest of the multi man modes returning from Smash 4.

  • @CyberLocky
    @CyberLocky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    smash bros ultimate getting rid of trophies was the ultimate sin imagine how many cool trophies from a wide variety of videogames we would have had

    • @EWOODJ
      @EWOODJ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      That's the compromise for adding everyone under a time limit.

    • @hectormontes7056
      @hectormontes7056 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I don’t think as much, each trophies require modeling and approval for not only how the model looks but also what the description says, as well as what games they can put at the bottom. I think the spirits allow them to add a bunch of cool characters to the game more easily, I mean it is just a jpg

    • @ogpandamonium
      @ogpandamonium 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I quite like spirits. But i really wish they kept descriptions maybe they could do just one-sentence deacriptions.

    • @theincredibledrl9684
      @theincredibledrl9684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There are no trophies in lego games cyberlock, but there still great

    • @ogpandamonium
      @ogpandamonium 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@theincredibledrl9684 they weren't talking about lego

  • @plushboat
    @plushboat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +213

    I wouldn’t say forgotten, more like, banished.

    • @MantaKizaemonFTW
      @MantaKizaemonFTW 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Shadow realm

    • @Ulazcruz
      @Ulazcruz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      As it should

    • @lordkaijux5262
      @lordkaijux5262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I'd say overshadowed.

    • @cornpop2630
      @cornpop2630 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ultimate just played and felt better in every way. There's something about WiiU and the movement in that game that just felt awkward.

    • @theirishpotato6588
      @theirishpotato6588 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Ulazcruz no

  • @oromain
    @oromain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    good god I never thought I'd be nostalgic for the Wii U UI

    • @charlieduffy5997
      @charlieduffy5997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah the Switch UI is kinda bland in comparison.

    • @diegone080
      @diegone080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      yeah switch UI is souless

    • @NeverSaySandwich1
      @NeverSaySandwich1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Back when it had SOUL

    • @duckerton14
      @duckerton14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Switch UI feels like a blank piece of paper.

  • @finaldusk1821
    @finaldusk1821 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I fondly remember completing the 3DS version to 100%, even clearing every mode at max difficulty with every character (DLC excluded).
    That game took well over a hundred hours of my life away; no regrets!
    Completing Smash 4 so many times over is no easy feat Jirard, I salute your immortal perseverance!

  • @ppleakage2785
    @ppleakage2785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Smash 4 player: gets good competitively
    Bayonetta players: You dare challenge me mortal?

    • @captainmega6310
      @captainmega6310 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Luckily she got nerfed in Ultimate. Some say too nerfed but ehh...

    • @FurryBayo
      @FurryBayo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@captainmega6310 she did get nerfed too much. Now she needs buffs.

  • @ppleakage2785
    @ppleakage2785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +252

    The 3DS version is better for one sole reason:
    Smash Run

    • @golddigginboi2187
      @golddigginboi2187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And better portability

    • @RainingMetal
      @RainingMetal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Fuckin' hated Smash Tour. Certainly put more hours in the 3DS game.

    • @theirishpotato6588
      @theirishpotato6588 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree.

    • @luigigx1172
      @luigigx1172 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just started playing than I found this comment

    • @Jay-ji6ng
      @Jay-ji6ng 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I really wish they reused assets from smash run when making world of light.

  • @EBlade3529
    @EBlade3529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Jirad: "Smash for Wii U: The forgotten gem."
    Smash for 3ds: "Am i a joke to you?"

  • @scarffoxandfriends9401
    @scarffoxandfriends9401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I like how the description says the 3ds version is basically the same game despite what Sakurai says, even though they have completely different game modes. Classic mode is different between the two games, a good percentage of the Achievements in 3ds version are exclusive to that version as well. Not to mention a different Stage list, which isn't going to come up when your only goal is to complete the games. I honestly like the 3ds stages better than the WiiU stages. But in all seriousness, the reason Sakurai says 3ds is a different game is because they had to make it from scratch separately from the WiiU version. For most of the content they could just take the WiiU version and just downgrade. So both versions essentially got a full game development.

  • @christianmartinez774
    @christianmartinez774 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I have fond memories of Smash 4. The bosses in classic mode were pretty awesome

  • @bluekirby64
    @bluekirby64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Brawl was the first Super Smash Bros game I played but Super Smash Bros for Wii U was the First Smash game where I actually tried to get good at the game and try to fight characters on harder difficulties so it still holds a soft spot for me

  • @darkknight11311
    @darkknight11311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Man, I miss trophies

  • @lordkaijux5262
    @lordkaijux5262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Before Super Smash Bros. Ultimate was released in December 2018 I've kept hearing the main theme of that game countless times I completely forgot what Super Smash Bros. for Wii U's theme sounded like.

  • @MaestroMagnifico21
    @MaestroMagnifico21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    "Smash Wii U: The forgotten gem" . Everyone always forget about the 3ds version because it isnt HD like its Wii U counterpart. in my opinion the 3ds version was more fun to play then the Wii U version, i even still play it from time to time to this day i almost never play Smash for Wii U these days. Never Forget Smash 3ds forever.

    • @mekk-knightsarecool222
      @mekk-knightsarecool222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      They replaced smash run with a shitty board game, it was tragic lol

    • @deco7217
      @deco7217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mekk-knightsarecool222 At least classic mode was good.

    • @BunnyChamberX
      @BunnyChamberX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Smash Run carried that version. Its the better solo experience.

    • @janusiers
      @janusiers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have the 3ds version in my catalog

    • @kingofthesharks
      @kingofthesharks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I never owned a Wii U but I sometimes forget I actually own Smash 4....via the 3DS game. Naturally, it's the only Smash game where I have more 1-player hours with than multiplayer.

  • @baneenab
    @baneenab 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Shoutout to everyone who still plays this game

  • @ethan7725
    @ethan7725 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’ve been watching this channel for only a couple months now, and I can already say it is one of my favorite ever. Thank you so much for every episode, and all the time you put into them.

  • @samijudj
    @samijudj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Smash 4, Wind Waker HD and 3D World are still the only reason that I dust off my Wii U today, I’ll never forget them.

    • @TheRandomGuyTheFarNoGameCat
      @TheRandomGuyTheFarNoGameCat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The WiiU with Nintendon't is amazing. Highly recommend.

    • @taffypool654
      @taffypool654 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That and the still active Virtual Console, and the backwards compatibility with the Wii. Oh, and loading all Wii eshop downloads to it. And the many, many, many amazing games. WiiU for life!

  • @thedapperdolphin1590
    @thedapperdolphin1590 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ultimate may have made this game irrelevant in many ways, but I’ll always have a fondness for it. This was THE game during my college years. It was first revealed the summer before my freshman year, and I enjoyed the reveals up until it was released my sophomore year, and beyond with DLC. I have a lot of great memories playing this with friends. We liked to hold tournaments together, and the time we spent involved some of the happiest memories from that point of my life. Plus, college is a great time for Smash since so many people wanted to play. Was easy to find a match.

  • @HDGamerofficial
    @HDGamerofficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly, I think of smash 4 kinda frequently. It was the smash that got me more into competitive, it was the origin of the epic trailers, DLC and those EPIC “Master” boss fights are one of my favourite parts of the game. Those hype final smash trophies are worth collecting for me because they’re just so epic and I absolutely LOVE some of the custom moves (collecting those was always a pain due to rng tho) in the end, Smash 4 made Ultimate possible and for that, I am truly grateful 😌
    Also Jirard, every time you mentioned “features that aren’t in ultimate” you showed a clip of home run contest which was added in ultimate in a patch after the game came out

  • @rakku4004
    @rakku4004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I loved the custom moves it was honestly a ton of fun

    • @ToyKeeper
      @ToyKeeper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +1 ... was a great way to keep the game interesting. I miss it.

  • @cicabeot1
    @cicabeot1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As far as I’m concerned, Smash 4 was the birth of modern Smash. It’s hard for me to go back to the first three games, but Smash 4 and Ultimate feel just right. And the Wii U version’s classic mode is the best in the series.

  • @disneyvillainsfan1666
    @disneyvillainsfan1666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    As one of the very few people who actually got a Wii U, This was my first Smash Bros game, and along with 3D World, it helped me get into Nintendo and Video Games.

  • @PokemonMaster7068
    @PokemonMaster7068 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My best friend and I played the hell out of Smash for 3DS. We were able to bring our 3DS's to school and play Smash Run and customizing our characters' stats and moves were a breath of fresh air.

  • @hasbullamagomedov4295
    @hasbullamagomedov4295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ah Smash 4. I’ll never forget seeing someone try to enter their Marth amiibo, aptly named Roy in a tournament I was at and it was beating actual contestants in friendlies. Made for a hilarious memory

  • @mavsfan924
    @mavsfan924 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I played this game to death the until I got a switch this Christmas.

    • @ivantheturtle3701
      @ivantheturtle3701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same. Even when I did get a switch I still played it until I got ultimate

    • @Jabutimado
      @Jabutimado 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i always play this game
      i don't have a switch

  • @cashordeals3672
    @cashordeals3672 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Forgetting? Smash 4 had some of the hypest reveals dlc and the main reason i bought the wiiu besides more fun game's were coming to the wiiu

  • @ValthorEldr
    @ValthorEldr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the set up you did for the episode, with the implied "dusting off" of the Wii U. XD Very clever

  • @victorg.2816
    @victorg.2816 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Also SB Wii U's online was FAR more enjoyable than Ultimate's.

    • @AtlasKP
      @AtlasKP 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There the exact same people think it's different only cause ultimates faster and requires faster inputs

    • @captainmega6310
      @captainmega6310 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Really? I had a hard time with both,but ultimate was very much preferred

    • @letssaveourplanet5738
      @letssaveourplanet5738 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes because you can use different characters with the same player

    • @Ansemthewise59
      @Ansemthewise59 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nah, Wii U's online is better. They had it right with "For Fun" and "For Glory". Nothing is more annoying than wanting a 1v1 on FD and getting a 4 player free-for-all with items.
      Also in Smash 4 you can fight CPU's with a friend online! Try doing that in Smash Ultimate.

    • @captainmega6310
      @captainmega6310 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ansemthewise59 never happened to me since the first time i got the game. It should be better though

  • @BoyWolfie
    @BoyWolfie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I didn't forget this game... at least, I hope I won't forget this game...

  • @MrGameAndToy
    @MrGameAndToy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    As a smasher, I mostly remember this game for its jank. There’s so many occurrences of moves killing off the top at like 10%, and ladder combos off of platforms that just kind of kill you. Ultimate toned back the jank a ton (but also introduces some other issues like the poorly implemented buffer system). Melee’s got a ton of jank as well, but it usually doesn’t look super janky when it happens. This game just has a bunch of stuff that works but doesn’t look like it should, and weird interactions.

  • @Parmandur
    @Parmandur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    My kids still play this on occasion: they like the contrast with Ultimate, and the bright colors.

  • @bruhwong8565
    @bruhwong8565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    He says when was the last time you thought of smash 4. Me I legit talked about it yesterday because of how all wii U games are basically on switch and there is literally no reason to buy a wii u but smash 4

    • @NintenDub
      @NintenDub 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There are reasons

    • @stevel121
      @stevel121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wind Waker HD for now...

    • @avenged-khaos
      @avenged-khaos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      xenoblade chronicles x is the only reason i have one

    • @paulmoore5392
      @paulmoore5392 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Honestly, I still use my Wii U to play a lot of Nintendo’s classic titles since Nintendo didn’t just drop the ball with releasing classic titles on Switch, they buried that ball 6 feet under. I’ve recently been playing a lot of Earthbound on it.

  • @emojifr...
    @emojifr... 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    ive been obsessed with mega man my whole life and when i saw the smash reveal i literally screamed so loud my mom grounded me

    • @finalsmash9607
      @finalsmash9607 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I prefer X, if it was zero at least i would’ve screamed too

    • @TheKingOfAllHorror
      @TheKingOfAllHorror 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd have grounded you too.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would she ground you for that? That's dumb.

    • @TheSquirrelAssassin
      @TheSquirrelAssassin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@finalsmash9607 same, i started with the zero series so that design will always be my favorite but the og zero with a alternate skin would be my number one most wanted character

  • @nickk3077
    @nickk3077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The events in Smash 4 are better than Smash Ultimate’s Spirits.

  • @sacramentum8802
    @sacramentum8802 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Me who just rewatched the scott the woz episode on smash bros 4 3ds and wii u

    • @slcool1499
      @slcool1499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good taste

  • @HeftyDan
    @HeftyDan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm so sad everyone hates this one. I've played all the Smash games to date and I've gotta say that Wii U is my favorite, if I could bring a couple of stages, Byleth, the Belmonts, and directional air dodging I probably wouldn't go back to Ultimate.

  • @ChristochatBTW
    @ChristochatBTW 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Let's be honest smash tour was a lot better than 80% of people thought

  • @blueblurz9498
    @blueblurz9498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Smash 4 Wii U was BY FAR my most played game on the system. Over 650 hours. Next most played was Mario Kart 8 at 170. College sure gave me a lot of free time to play this and I enjoyed pretty much every second. I haven’t touched Smash 4 since ultimate released but I remember it very fondly. Probably still my favorite Wii U game and this actually makes me want to go back and play it again for nostalgia’s sake

  • @rogerdonovan1759
    @rogerdonovan1759 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought my wii U in 2015 with this game. It was such a difficult time in my life and this game brought me such joy. That and your content pulled me through. Thank you again Mr Completionist!

  • @emeraldgiss
    @emeraldgiss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I would say that untill you remember rage and Bayonetta.

  • @J0EY-G
    @J0EY-G 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It has genuinely been a while since I've seen someone talked about this game

  • @Kthanksby3
    @Kthanksby3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The music choices for this video is top tier

  • @dominica.3275
    @dominica.3275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Friendly reminder that the Wii U actually had some great games (games that tons have applauded when ported to switch 👀)

    • @Adriano991b
      @Adriano991b 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, but it's more probably because very few people had the chance to enjoy those games, so it was reasonable to have them ported to Switch

  • @kingofthesharks
    @kingofthesharks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    10:16 The Event matches mode were originally from Melee, and were the highlight of that game's 1-player stuff for me. Finally beating "The Showdown" with Giga Bowser, Ganondorf, and Mewtwo was an incredible feeling as a kid.

  • @cosmicXtropics
    @cosmicXtropics 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was thinking of smash 4 the other day. How I almost mastered the entire roster but now barely play half in Ultimate.

  • @TigerHawk709
    @TigerHawk709 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I liked the custom moves, and wished they had returned. I also enjoy the Amiibo aspect in that, as someone who doesn't play against others often, it's nice to have a computer that is capable of surpassing your base abilities and allows you to get better without online functionality

    • @ToyKeeper
      @ToyKeeper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I liked the custom moves too, and am sad that they removed the feature instead of making it more universal. Would also have liked to see the amiibo FP feature expanded, so people could have FP characters without having to own the physical amiibos. It added a huge element to the game, but people mostly couldn't use it because it was locked behind an expensive and inconvenient hardware dongle system.

  • @KillerGir1
    @KillerGir1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Smash on the wiiu was the definitive edition of the two I ended up playing way more of the 3ds for one reason. Smash run. It felt like a new version of city trials from kirby air ride, a forgotten gem on the gamecube. But it was the 3ds for smash so I do understand why people weren't happy with that. I wish they brought it back like the way it was

  • @Flintofmother
    @Flintofmother 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    "Smash 4 classic mode was dope!" The completionist, more like "The Contrairist"

    • @papersonic9941
      @papersonic9941 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The 3DS one was decent, though

  • @DrViperVideos
    @DrViperVideos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I miss orbital gate assault...

  • @SMABSYSTEMS
    @SMABSYSTEMS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally A POPULAR TH-camr sees the gem in SSB4. I still play it today since I haven't a Switch yet XD

  • @kevinharding3281
    @kevinharding3281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This game holds a special place in my heart. My brother and I would play this together all the time and i have many many replays of us together. He took his life in 2019 but thanks to this games replay features i can view his ass whoopings anytime.

  • @datalphalion
    @datalphalion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Smash 4, AKA the one where people started complaining about “too many Fire Emblem characters.”

    • @retrozaid1600
      @retrozaid1600 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I blame Corrin

    • @Error-zj7ln
      @Error-zj7ln 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      which then evolved into Ultimate as "Too many anime swordspeople"

    • @ggs27
      @ggs27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think that the Schafrillas Productions video explains well

    • @ghost245353
      @ghost245353 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's even worse when many of those people complaining don't play fire emblem

  • @DravenRoth1435
    @DravenRoth1435 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This one was good, but I found myself playing the 3DS version more often because of Smash Run. My wifi was terrible too, so I never got to play online.

  • @jordanhingoo7017
    @jordanhingoo7017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really miss the trophy room. After years and years I finally completed the room. It was the most satisfying thing I’ve ever done.

  • @joshuagrahambrown
    @joshuagrahambrown 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is one of the episodes of New Game Plus that I genuinely thought we’d never get, due to the sheer amount of both Challenges & Trophies. I appreciate your dedication as always Jirard!

  • @SwiggyKong
    @SwiggyKong 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Ok not gonna lie, was NOT expecting this on my Saturday morning. It looks so slow, Jesus.

    • @therock238360
      @therock238360 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How is it Saturday morning for you? If you’re in another time zone, then it would be Sunday morning

    • @victoriousf.i.g.3311
      @victoriousf.i.g.3311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@therock238360 "If you were in another time zone, it would be Sunday morning"
      Yo, I love how smug you were when saying the most ridiculous shit 🤣🤣🤣

    • @SwiggyKong
      @SwiggyKong 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@therock238360 I always find the most interesting people with the most interesting of interest in the TH-cam comment section.

    • @therock238360
      @therock238360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Victorious F.I.G. What’s ridiculous about it? I live on the east coast US and it’s Saturday evening already, so any place where it’s morning, it would be Sunday now

    • @victoriousf.i.g.3311
      @victoriousf.i.g.3311 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SwiggyKong How do you have interests? Glib mark hardcopy giant tincture Regis Philbin.
      I was seeing if I could be as confident as *Therock* when I spouted nonsense 🤣

  • @coreymyers5321
    @coreymyers5321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    First 10 seconds: Coughing at dust blown off old console. And I laughed for 5 minutes because that happens all the time when I bring out the Wii U.

  • @trident042
    @trident042 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love many of the modes in Sm4sh, both the U and 3DS editions, and would love if after all the Fighters' Pass additions, maybe the Ultimate team might consider porting some old modes to the new hotness. Who wouldn't love an Ultimate, online multiplayer Smash Run? A couch-co-op Smash board game whose name escapes me? A fresh take on Subspace Emissary? New battles with other boss monsters like Tabuu and the big shadow monster-turned-fortress guy? There's a lot we don't have in Ultimate despite it being.... Ultimate.

  • @blazikine
    @blazikine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What I really enjoyed with Smash 4 was how you could look at all the trophies lined up together whether it was in the trophy board or the big display. Really wished they had that in ultimate

  • @BiGGMiXX340
    @BiGGMiXX340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Truth is that this game got pulled too far into the scrutiny that is the competitive smash community.

    • @mariowiiluigi1919
      @mariowiiluigi1919 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I beg your pardon?

    • @minecraftmayneax
      @minecraftmayneax 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Facts, toxic competitive mindsets have tarnished this and Brawl’s name

    • @mariowiiluigi1919
      @mariowiiluigi1919 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@minecraftmayneax Ohhh that's what he means!
      Kinda true then, I think the only clear identity was been the best online smash thanks to For glory.
      The problem is, in order to play online, you need people to play too, and since Ult have pretty much has all the popularity well......his only identity now it can't be used, or as big as it used to.
      As for Brawl, maybe it is considered the black sheep competitively, but at least has the subspace.

  • @shiftfire4511
    @shiftfire4511 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Not really forgotten as much as overshadowed. Between the technically impressive 3DS release, with modes like Smash Run and having better overall stages, and the absolutely massive Ultimate including every character, almost every stage, thousands of songs, and further polishing the gameplay, it's easily overlooked. Especially on Nintendo's worst selling home console

  • @koopawarss9162
    @koopawarss9162 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I used to play this on the bus to school with a friend forever ago, really great times with this game for real!

  • @massdefection
    @massdefection 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This one was one heck of a journey on Twitch for you haha. Hope you're having a good time dude. Can't wait for that 400!

  • @parkwayninja41
    @parkwayninja41 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Jirard: When was the last time you thought about smash 4
    Me: As a Cloud main, I think about smash 4 an unhealthy amount.

  • @vidego
    @vidego 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I haven't watched the video yet, but just by reading the title, I can say that I didn't forget Smash 4. I still play it because it has better online than ultimate. The match making is better and the lag is just as bad, but the online is free, so it gets a pass

    • @DarkRen08-
      @DarkRen08- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i replayed smash 4. all i can say is that just like alpharad, i tried to do ultimate thing because it was what i was familiar with

  • @algar6616
    @algar6616 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    yes yes yes
    a video w more opinions
    i enjoy your content for the opinions you share along the way, more than the completion process

  • @toph6661
    @toph6661 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    16:40 YESSSS! Bring back the individualised target levels. Those levels were my obsession back in 2000, took my so long to figure out each target for link, but that retrospectively was a great training experience!

  • @TSMSnation
    @TSMSnation 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It's ironic that he likes the classic mode when everyone hates it.

    • @NintendoGamingCentral
      @NintendoGamingCentral 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The one thing I hate about Classic Mode is the ridiculously difficult Master Core at max difficulty. It's impossible. I still haven't beaten it and gotten that achievement..

    • @KingMamzy
      @KingMamzy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I liked the classic mode in smash 4 (wii u) too to be honest

    • @willycheez7218
      @willycheez7218 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Classic mode was super fun. Loved the challenge, 9.0 was so hard

  • @JACBRG
    @JACBRG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Smash 4 was one of the best games made by nintendo, the game shaped me as a person and it’s a game I’ll never forget

  • @multilegolover
    @multilegolover 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Using the Wii U menu as a means for transitions is such a cool idea :O Man how am I already so nostalgic for that lol

  • @naruconas2334
    @naruconas2334 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The thing I miss most are the little blurbs you get with the trophies. I loved going through them and learning a little bit about the characters and what game they were from. And spirits have absolutely none of that.

  • @AmselOwl
    @AmselOwl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I was literally playing sm4sh as you released this.

  • @stevoisiak
    @stevoisiak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    0:20 I see that copy of Brain Age. Running some homebrew on that Wii U?

    • @luiscomic5138
      @luiscomic5138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      naw, the wii u virtual console had some ds games

  • @Silentj04
    @Silentj04 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All Star mode was a homage to Kirby Super Star as both series were created by Sakurai along with many many other hidden themes and homages. Like how Master Hand is also another Kirby reference

  • @DekuScrub_
    @DekuScrub_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got a new 3ds last weekend to relive some nostalgia and playing smash 4 for the first time since ultimate released just hit different

  • @breadbybread
    @breadbybread 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    *"When was the last time you even thought about Smash 4?"*
    uhhh yesterdayyyy

  • @williepchamp3060
    @williepchamp3060 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is my favorite Smash game, hands down. I know Ultimate is better, but I just love this game. I have so many memories of this game. It's quite possibly one of my favorite games.
    Also, I love the Wii U. It had such good exclusives, and rivals the Switch in my opinion.

  • @mabbott946
    @mabbott946 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will never forget the build up to the release. Was so exciting

  • @coopertrooper03
    @coopertrooper03 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Wii U startup intro was so nostalgic for me. I remember playing the first Splatoon and Smash 4 so much 🔥

  • @HunterForHire422
    @HunterForHire422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Every person who makes a wiiu video starts off with a blowing away dust joke

  • @acrawford01
    @acrawford01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honestly I think the music in Smash 4 is better than Ultimate. The intro and the menu are just epic.

  • @DreballinArts
    @DreballinArts 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The perfect video to listen to as I unlock the rest of the characters in my new copy of Smash Ultimate.

  • @atre5763
    @atre5763 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Smash Bros for 3DS was a game I put so many hours in. I did everything with all characters, and had some of the BEST new characters ever like Pacman, Bowser Jr., Greninja, Ryu, Cloud, and my main Corrin!

  • @KingMamzy
    @KingMamzy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I put 500 hours into this game during my 1st year of college back in 2015. Good times 😂

    • @julianx2rl
      @julianx2rl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I put about the same amount, and then did the same on the next year, rounding up to a 1000 hours... maybe I should've taken that time to play other games tho.

    • @KingMamzy
      @KingMamzy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@julianx2rl same, I could’ve actually beaten captain toads treasure tracker & played more of zelda: wind Waker HD if I wasn’t so addicted to smash during that year 🗿