Lenovo ThinkPad P51 Review: Workstation for Designers, Engineers, Power Users
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2017
- Designers, engineers, or video editors can’t go wrong with the Lenovo ThinkPad P51. It gets the job done, and they can depend on it day in and day out, and year after year because of its durability. See at Lenovo Shop: thrifter.com/swNG
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To complain about the looks is to misunderstand the purpose of this laptop. The complaint I hear most is, why so much plastic for such an expensive computer. Inevitably, it gets compared to the MacBook Pro and it's durable aluminum build. I guarantee you the MacBook Pro will fail a durability test long before the Thinkpad. I'll take durability and performance over aesthetics every day and twice on Sunday!
Brian McCollum twice on Sunday lol have my like
Guess what kind of laptops they are using on the international space station and which one not.
They use thinkpad's exclusivly, not Macbooks.
What they don't know that there are reinforcement metal frame inside the thinkpad that can absorb nastiest shock when you accidently drop it.
As far as touch I prefer the black glass to aluminum, especially with a long days of use. MacBook Pro keyboard is nothing like the Thinkpad.
Kent Purdy maybe you do office work. Not some onsite work where you can and probably will drop your laptop. I like macbook if I will stay in a safe environment but ill choose thinkpad if the case is different
It shows the reviewer isn't a Thinkpad person. Probably not an engineer as well.
Lenovo didn't make the decision to switch the position of FN and CTRL keys. That has been the case since the IBM days for all ThinkPad keyboards
Which, at least in my T430 can be switched back to "normal function by position" from the bios/setup. Not sure in this one. I would assume they would include this feature, since is incredibly odd for mostly everyone.
I don't know why reviewers are obsessed with touchscreens like anyone use them anyway! if it was the MacBook Pro no one will mention it's a drawback that it doesn't' have a touchscreen.
This is marketed to professionals and has everything you would need in a high end laptop. The P series workstation is a legitimate desktop replacement.
people complain about the plastic on thinkpad laptops but honestly I've had a p51s for like 4 years now. The plastic stands up way better than any other laptop I've ever seen, it doesn't warp, bend, and it wears away gracefully. I'm a firm believer at this point that plastic (used right) is a better material than most stamped metal or aluminum.
Why do many people complain about Fn/Ctrl key position in thinkpads? In fact:
1. Apple uses the same positions for Fn/Ctr keys in Mac (no one complains)
2. It's been there since 1992 thinkpads (where have you been?)
read David Hill's post here blog.lenovo.com/en/blog/fn-versus-ctrl-let-the-games-begin
Arseto Nugroho since 1992?!? Wow learned something new. Yes, this is the first Thinkpad I've reviewed
If people don't use a Mac, they wouldn't know.
Yeah but Macs use the CMD key instead of Ctrl in most cases (I'm watching this on a Mac)
Arseto Nugroho is
Because it's still annoying lol
Did you check for or experience any thermal throttling? There have been a bunch of reports of that and I don't know if they're isolated incidents or common.
Hey Mark, those buttons on top of the trackpad are for the touchpoint. Just letting you know!
Beast!!! My next computer, nice review btw
The extra touchpad buttons are for the track point.
Was about to comment the same thing... This guy isn't the sharpest
E. Nieminen someone who does not appreciate the track point as the reviewer, while still provides a useful benchmark will tend not to like thinkpads
Trackpoints are as synonymous with Thinkpads. Personally, I prefer the approach to keep the touch buttons by the keyboard and integrated buttons on the pad so it can be larger.
@@KTPurdy to drag-&-drop you need to press-&-hold the mouse-button while at-the-same-time dragging the mouse-cursor over to the new-location where you want the file to be.
It’s much tougher to do that on a touchpad that has no physical dedicated separate-buttons.
- All these “clickpad” touchpads are-just imitating Apple.
P.S. Did you know that you can “tap” on a touchpad (even one that has physical dedicated separate left-&-right mouse-buttons) to do a LEFT-click ?
I am looking to buy the P52S for video editing. Is that a good choice ?
Hello Mark, Thank you for your review(s). I am undecided between this P51 & the P71. Which one would you choose, having interacted with both models?
The extra buttons are meant to be used with the trackpoint.
Hardware wireless Radio switch status is on but wireless Radio and blue tooth is off. How can I turn off hardware Radio switch, my concern that there may be Radio waves projecting? Where is the hardware wireless switch on the laptop top?
In my thinpad p51 there is backlit but the alphabets dont iluminate is this the case with you or yout keys/alphabets also emit lights ?
Nice move, Lenovo..This is a perfect successor to the Lenovo w520/530. The design from sides is so similar, even the vents, express card slot, pantone calibrator etc are all kept in this 2017 laptop, which is very rare nowadays. As a w520 user, this is where I would go next.
Even CTRL and FN key layout is same, which in fact I don't like even on my w520. It can be swallowed
Absolutely. I upgraded from a W510. I still prefer the classic keyboard, but in every other respect it's a perfect upgrade (and a real performance boost).
Can it (trickle) charge from USB-C adapter?
Lenovo Thinkpad 51 or Dell precision 5510? Which should I buy? Help pls
Have you tried connecting an external GPU with Thunderbolt 3?
is this model available without
Pantone Color Calibrator ???? if yes then what's the price difference?
Would love a physical wifi toogle like the W series.
For video editors as you targeted the review I was expecting more 1) discussion on a dual color accuracy; on P50 I saw reviews the Pantone did not do a good job 2) more reference they having up to three drives two m2s and a 2.5 is very useful to separate media and output folders
Dude saying a negative regarding size for a mobile workstation?
All laptops should be that easy to open.
The best laptop ever! It still has the silly fingerprint reader but that can be disabled and ignored. The dock is a must for people who want to evaluate images on 27" monitors, which is the bare minimum when working at 4K.
I have the same unit with the 1505 processor. Great little machine.
You can switch the fn and ctrl key position in the bios setting.
yes. but at night, you'll use the two corner keys to turn on the lid light. among other functions, it's perfect the way it is. T510 here.
Thanks, Mark.
Got a HP ZStudio now... Thinking about upgrading more because I want a 4K display, I had a bad experience with Lenovo, sold a Y50 to get my ZStudio but this one looks interesting...
Please review the P52 with Nvidia Quadro P3200 and let us know how it plays the usual games in reviews like Tombraider , battlefield etc.. Yes it's not a gaming laptop but some people are interested in being able to play games every once in a while.
Good for programming?is it smooth?
Fn and Ctrl keys position is the same on the entire ThinkPad Lenovo line of laptops.
When are you guys going to review the ThinkPad P71?
Great laptop. Low rpm fan low noise.with multiple exhaust at corner. . Best ThinkPad workstation yet. Please add usb C. And 3:2 screen. Minus 1/3 of height to be clear winner.. Best keyboard, Not like the MacBook pro I left in locker.
It has a USB C / Thunderbolt 3 connector.
Good for designers, video editing, photo editing?
I have P50, the two look and even hardware wise are almost identical!
It can be upgraded from the stock 32 GB to 128 GB! Now that’s a performance beast!
Why was the theme music changed?
03:02, oh they did, did they? totally gonna listen to this guy, very much knowledge about laptops, clearly.
Good review but funny comparison on the fan noise; basically any laptop is less noisy than the blade
Good laptop for cad engineers with 3d on the go.
Like people in the auto, design and oil industries who need to be on top of extremely demanding work, you don’t want to wait for a computer to catch up! This helps with the workflow.
This would be pretty decent for a mobile After Effects/Illustrator/C4D setup aye?
I own one, The machine works great with cad apps, but with video games it begins to heat up and at times freezes the images... Am I missing any configuration?? help...
You will want to add more RAM. Particularly with intensive game-playing!
Levono legion y720 OR Lenovo ThinkPad P51 ? which one should i buy?
Get the P51, Y720 build quality is crap compared to P51.
Funny my T430 function and control keys are the same as the P51..that should be noted.
how about speaker? between macbook
can't even compare to macbook speakers. Much weaker.
please do a p71 4k version. want to know if the throttling issue is serious or just a rare case.
Cong Wang yup reviewing that next. It's humongous!!
Mark Guim thank you so much. Need to use if run simulations for movie effects haha
Hey Mark, Thanks for doing this review. I have been looking for good info on this laptop as I'm in the marked for a real workhorse. I have used a MacBook Pro and HP Zbook g4 and brought them both to their knees. My workflow consist of multi monitor multi window adobe pro, google earth multi tab MLS browser, multi tab search browser, and goodnotes4. I also usually have TH-cam open for background noise. I'm trying to decide between this and the HP Zbook Studio g4.
Brian McCollum I just reviewed the g4 studio (written). Check Windows Central. Prefer the studio's size, but I like that the P51 has no bloatware.
@@markguim hello m2200 4gb vs k4100 4gb vs k5100 8gb???
I use computers for development only so The first thing I do whenever I get a new thinkpad: remove windows. Install Linux (run Windows on a virtual machine instead).
6 touchpad buttons? You don't have to know anything about laptops to review one apparently
Every fucking reviewer says Lenovo switched the Ctrl and fn the truth is that layout has been the standard since three decades ago. Lenovo did not change the layout it's heat IBM did. Any programmer will tell you that they are only familiar with the fn on the right layout
LOL. I know I'm watching this video on an x200 tablet and looking at my FN and CTRL keys thinking "WTF?!"
Yup, they don't get it. But what's the big deal considering you can swap them now? If only Lenovo made it possible to switch on the older models...
Lol yes, I only use Thinkpads and MacBooks and I was like "WTF do normal laptops have those keys swapped?"
What is the mouse you had for this video?
it's a Logitech MX Master
I have a question , do you think lenovo p50s is good for designers and engineering software?
We have a couple at the office. It's a pretty nice machine for the price and portability.
That’s who it was made for and if you’re hankering after a thin and light ultraportable, the P50 is not for you! Look elsewhere.
How is the speakers? And how hot when typing?
speakers aren't that great and you'll probably want to use a speaker for any media. and the heat is really only felt on the bottom so no real affect on typing ~ UNLESS you're typing for hours. I will say that my hands got a little sweaty when spending hours writing papers, but still it''s kinda negligible
LOL, I've been using only Thinkpads and MacBooks in the past 10 years and I didn't even remember that normal laptops have the Fn and Ctrl keys swapped.
Consumer laptops aren’t in the same class as business laptops. They’re low end garbage.
can you charge it via usb c?
A little late, but no. It requires a 170w power adapter.
Like the mouse, have the same!
Why do every review have some weird sound track, low or high running in the background - this no exception. :(
Is still worth in 2023 ???
I want this for rendering
How much core and threds it has
Kapil Suthar still sadly only 4 cores 8 threads. Maybe Ryzen mobile will bring more cores
literally every keyboard has the Ctrl key at the left of the windows key, it's way moro intuitive. One day i used someone else laptop and i almost freaked out becouse i was pressing the fn key instead ctrl becouse it was swapped (ctrl|fn|windows buttton)
i also hate the new trend to put the F1 to f12 buttons as Fn keys and the "special" keys are the default i can no longuer do ctrl+F4 with those, i must do Fn+ctrl+f4 (UGH)
and the trackpoint is literally the best feature of a thinkpad i use it daily and if i had to switch to a alaptop without trackpoint i would probably become crazy
This laptop is clearly not for you. It’s a THINKPAD. They are all durable, upgradable and beautiful. Lenovo did not choose to swap the keys either, that was IBM over 25 years ago. Also PUBG is not a “less demanding game”
This is business laptop not for fucking fashion.
Nord Stage It's not a business laptop it's a mobile workstation.
Great laptop, but not for people who use davinci resolve which prefers GTX.
nice laptop...
THE 4K SCEEN IS A TOUCH SCREEN
If you want any drives in RAID, make sure you order it that way, because these machines don't let you change it in BIOS/UEFI on your own. Unfortunately, Lenovo is going to gouge you on SSDs since they know ordering it with just one and sourcing your own isn't an option.
So the bios is completely locked?. Glad I have my Dell.
How many % Adobe RGB is it?
In another video Someone said between 96-98%
the trackpoint is a must
George Washington what is trackpoint?
@@iampyre2016 It's the red nipple in the middle of the keyboard. Most Lenovo users prefer to use that over the full trackpad (if they're not using a separate mouse and keyboard).
You squandered this machine
this guy simply does not know why there are extra buttons around the track and why keys are placed where they are. still nice review, but i use all my keys and love the placement on my thinkpad.
Is it worth to buy i7 7th generation with nvidia quadro 2gb in 2022 refurbished one
It will support Windows 11 and should see you through the next decade.
@@NormanF62 OK sir thank you
Can you play GTA 5 on it I have the Nvidia Quadro m 1200
Fn key and ctrl being switched makes me want to hit my head to the wall
But now i know i can change it😅
Lenovo, if you make it 3:2 I'm in.
Why buy a Thinkpad if you do not use the track-point?
>> Lenovo did not include unnecessary bloatware
Well Win10 is enough of a bloatware , what can top that
Get off my lawn, you apple fanboys!
You take my like sir
These things are boss with Linux.
Great laptop except for the mousepad being more on the left. Makes it look ugly. Center the mousepad and we'll do business. 👌🏼
It's centered on the main keyboard, which is what you want. It looks off-center because of the numeric keypad, but if you centered it with respect to both, it would feel off-center in use and be much less convenient.
It definitely makeS leSS noiSe than my razer blade...
Sorry to say Sir, whatever you telling everything is lie not matching one single word as a designer I have fedup really
Really?
T470p is better
noooooooooooooooooooooooo the intro music!!!! :(
3:32 NOOOOOOOOOOOO ! This configuration is perfect. No shitty clickpad for having 1cm more touchpad. Trackpoint users need the top buttons. Trackpad users the down buttons. Clickpad is piece of crap fuckshit. Lenovo shall go back to this solution for ALL Thinkpad laptops, not just the P series.
p51 mustang lmao
It may have great hardware but the keyboard is utter crap. Lenovo should NEVER have changed the keyboard or the trackpad.
Love the performance, but boy these are ugly! I’m bothered by the ugliness.
the guy who made that keyboard never writes on a keyboard himself. Not centered keyboard is hurting my wrists even by watching
Takes some getting used to. It's not that bad. Most people have the laptop sitting on a desk with a mouse and keyboard for daily tasks anyway, so it's not much of an issue.
32GB of RAM? That's as much internal memory as my phone has.
The P51 can be equipped with up to 64 GB of RAM.
32GB of ram in a laptop is old news. My thinkpad W520 from 2011 has 32GB of ram.
your phone has 32gb of storage and probably only 4 or 8 Gb of ram. Even if it has 32 Gb then it still has to be shared with your internal storage. This is 32gb of ram only.
@Erwin - um that's exactly what he said
You mistake storage for RAM. A phone has no need for 32GB RAM.
Thinkpad produced by Chinsese company Lenova
I dont like it anymore
Sadly the graphics are woefully under-powered...a graphics workstation (0:18 "for power users") with the M2200M equivalence of an NVidia 1050? Sorry....that's hardly graphics workstation territory.
sdushdiu what kinda workload do you have that an m2200, or even a m1200 isn't enough lol...either card will run huge CAD files and numerical programs just fine
CAD? Who cares about simple static diagrams? While you guys think simple architecture or basic engineering apps, there is quite a bit more in the world of physics than simple static diagrams - dynamic 3D volumetric imaging, fluid dynamics, acoustics sims and more...and the ExpressCard slot is necessary for additional IO formats used for data acquisition.
sdushdiu get a fukken clevo?? Have your school buy you a Tesla cluster idk, Clearly not in the target market for this laptop
Pathetic and worthless laptop I haven't seen in my life. I have fed up to buy this laptop. SUCKS lenovo.
I decided, i'm never buy again any lenovo product in my whole life. I buy this laptop almost a year with huge money.
Where you expecting an ultraportable? That’s not the intention behind a workstation laptop.
This thing doesn't have an optical drive. DEAL BREAKER!!!
You can get an optical drive in the p71 but at 17" it is huge!
who needs an optical drive lol
Dirk Sieme Nanne but why not just back up using an external hard drive?
@Fajar, I need it cause I still have a few old games, DVDs/VCDs and Music CDs whose content I still like to consume and some software.
Wow. That is some serious vintage you are doing, man. In my opinion, however, you don't need a brand new workstation to do all those things. W530 will do alright.
Must a workstation be ugly? This is 2017..
There's always MSI Workstation series laptops if you want a little more aesthetics for your workstation laptops.
Elvis Nwaba you said it best yourself, work is work. Are you going to wear a suit to a construction site? Do surgeons use pretty tools when performing medical procedures? Work is about function not beauty. When then there are people like me who can see beauty in functionality
jasmine yefeng ok.. Cool.. You're right... I'm just saying... Since we are going into beauty and functionality now.. It wouldn't hurt to make things look modern and move away from the old way of doing things... Still works though.. Peace
well there is the thinkpad x1 carbon? There are many other thinkpads that do look nice and have quite some power as well like the t470p
jasmine yefeng ok... Cool.. Thanks..
They need to step up their game, it's 2017, their laptop looks like from the 90's.
But thumbs up with their ports.
Power users wouldn't bother to trade cosmetic beauty over upgradeability and flexibility. For common people, there are Dell XPS 13/15 and ThinkPad X1 Carbon and a bunch of other choices. The X1 might not be flashy but it will withstand far greater abuse than the formers and other competitors. ThinkPads are meant to be beautiful, so...
Nasaq Licos and people like you are why the Windows laptop market was loosing quite a few people to Mac, especially in universities. What is wrong with a lightweight and well built laptop that looks good? It's not that there will be no workstations anymore because of that … however design is very important especially in the consumer market and Windows was lacking that for a long time. Only in the recent three years this has changed imo.
Qwertworks "consumer market" not pro market
Chosen Architect sure. But where is the rule written that says "only because it is pro it has to look like crap"? Sure, design isn't the first thing to consider here, but they surely could have done a better job and it surely would not have hurt.
Qwertworks by reading you and Rahadian's comments it's quiet obvious you don't have the slightest clue of what you're speaking of and can be considered as blasphemy by a lot of people (comedicly & seriously saying). Believe it or not but people do like the looks (& so do I, also doesn't mean I don't like the looks of newer laptops). The design & materials play a strong role here, that's why it hasn't change much for years, it's like asking Porsche to make their car more stream line like a Ferrari or Lamborghini. You two really need to do your homework on thinkpads. As far as the Windows laptop market is concerned, it pretty good because there's numerous other laptops (& pc tablets) that you could get especially after Win8/10 came out new chips/ memories etc.
Lenovo P51 - total and utter junk, don't waste your money. I've had to return two of them due to instability/startup problems (not OS related).
Good feel to it but its my first and last Lenovo computer (I only owned it 1 week).
This looks so ugly lol
how is it ugly?
its so blocky and has plastic for such a expensive computer
Saran Wrap that's classic thinkpad design that makes a so durable, and what's makes it stands out among the crowd. Clearly you didn't use a thinkpad before
It can still be metal and it is so thick compares to other laptops with similar specs
Saran Wrap no. We don't need another MacBook clone. There's Dell xps 15 for that.