@@gibsonguitar I am very lucky to have a Custom 1961 ES-335 Reissue , Custom 1960 Les Paul Standard Reissue and a Custom 1960 Les Paul Special Double Cut Reissue. They all have the slimmer neck and I love the variety of sound!
Eric Johnson has the same opinion on things nitrocellulose on his signature Stratocaster. Eric Johnson was the first person I heard promoting this idea. 10-20 years ago ? I don’t remember every sentence ever spoken…. What I do know is if you are in a high production industry, any little savings is a lot overall. God Bless Gibson and all us players to create something amazing 🎉
Thanks for this video. While I would never personally buy satin finish and I think that VOS is just a way to save costs and charge more I do appreciate the quality of the full gloss treatment. My Gibson acoustics are all older and have opened up over time as the lacquer outgassed. I like hearing the thoughts of the people who do the work but confess since execs started showing up in these videos I like them less. Mr Koehler comes across as insincere whereas the lacquer technician has real credibility
@@bryantcochran5065 Thanks. I tried to order one through Sweetwater and Wildwood. Didn't want anything too fancy,just a Florentine cutaway, like the Starburst guitar. I'll try that route.
Answer is simple, it hardens as it ages. Something you can get with todays technology using a 2 part urethane, its hard in a week instead of a decade. The harder it is the more it rings, more resonant, 2 part clear with hardener works great. nitro lacquer is antique tech, but for some reason people cant get with the times and understand that.
I agree. You're able to get the same film thickness with fewer coats, and it'll be hard as a rock within a few days. I've sprayed 1 guitar with nitro and 5 guitars with poly as a luthier and personally made my choice after the first one.
It seals the wood and protects it from moisture. If there were no finish, moisture would go in and out of the wood and eventually create cracks in the wood.
I love the interviews, information and seeing the build process. But the music is too loud. It kills me to say that because the picking is awesome. Please one at at time
There are only 2 finishes for guitars, nitrocellulose and French polish. Anything other than those and you've lost a lot of the tone that was built into the instrument. I've been a luthier for 50 years by the way.
@zakwyldesilver yeah, the infernalnet says a lot that just isn't true. Poly finishes, while nearly bulletproof, are thick and while that might be ok for an electric, it's just not good for acoustics to wear a thick coating of finish. I own one electric that has a poly finish every other guitar I own has nitrocellulos, except one OM that I French polished.
@@bryantcochran5065 I agree. I’m not going to say one sounds better than the other, because “better” is completely subjective, but I will say they definitely sound different.
Maybe in 1960, but its 2024 now. A 2 part (hardener) automotive urethane clear dries rock hard in a week and you dont have to wait 2 decades for them to be resonant and ring like a bell. Ive been involved in paint and coatings for 30 years but a dime store luthier for 3 years and the harder coating the better it rings.. same stuff i clear cars with. It works well.
Gibson blowing smoke again Nitrocellulose finishes have no tonal advantages on solid body electric guitars and stop putting your goofy looking Gibson headstock on the legendary Epiphones
@@LarrytheMan-uc4evwell you said it has no tonal advantages to solid body electric guitars, yet they’re talking about tonal advantages to acoustic guitars..?
Very well put also how does it feel that Epiphone is ruling the Roost once again like they did in the good o'l days it was over for Gibson after two things getting caught in lies during their miserably failed lawsuits and when JC Curliegh Restored Epiphone back to where they should have always been in 2020 epiphone was never meant to be a budget brand in the first place and they weren't until Norlin ruined them when they took over Gibson that all ends with JC Curliegh in 2019/2020
I love how my Gibsons look, feel and sound! ❤
Good to have you here! Which guitars have you got?
@@gibsonguitar I am very lucky to have a Custom 1961 ES-335 Reissue , Custom 1960 Les Paul Standard Reissue and a Custom 1960 Les Paul Special Double Cut Reissue. They all have the slimmer neck and I love the variety of sound!
I love my J45 from Montana, Sounds Blissful ❤
I have a custom shop les Paul '59 reissue. I love it so much and the finish especially
I’ve got two Epiphone guitars, and I definitely heard the difference when I heard a Gibson I played at a shop!
Eric Johnson has the same opinion on things nitrocellulose on his signature Stratocaster. Eric Johnson was the first person I heard promoting this idea. 10-20 years ago ? I don’t remember every sentence ever spoken…. What I do know is if you are in a high production industry, any little savings is a lot overall. God Bless Gibson and all us players to create something amazing 🎉
I am going to be in Bozeman in June! Does the factory do tours by any chance? Thanks!
Yes they do, it's good to call ahead so they will be expecting you.
Thanks for this video. While I would never personally buy satin finish and I think that VOS is just a way to save costs and charge more I do appreciate the quality of the full gloss treatment. My Gibson acoustics are all older and have opened up over time as the lacquer outgassed. I like hearing the thoughts of the people who do the work but confess since execs started showing up in these videos I like them less. Mr Koehler comes across as insincere whereas the lacquer technician has real credibility
i need a job in Bozman
What does it take to get a MTM J-185??? Been trying for a couple of years.
Try getting with the custom shop or their new store in Nashville. You will most likely have to order the J-185
@@bryantcochran5065 Thanks. I tried to order one through Sweetwater and Wildwood. Didn't want anything too fancy,just a Florentine cutaway, like the Starburst guitar. I'll try that route.
Answer is simple, it hardens as it ages. Something you can get with todays technology using a 2 part urethane, its hard in a week instead of a decade. The harder it is the more it rings, more resonant, 2 part clear with hardener works great. nitro lacquer is antique tech, but for some reason people cant get with the times and understand that.
I agree. You're able to get the same film thickness with fewer coats, and it'll be hard as a rock within a few days. I've sprayed 1 guitar with nitro and 5 guitars with poly as a luthier and personally made my choice after the first one.
Thank you. Some day I'll get a Gibson G writer its what I can afford :)
We hope it serves you well!
J-45 50’s is on my wish list!
If nitro is so great, why not make acoustic guitars with NO FINISH... Or maybe one really thin coat... Anyone know?
It seals the wood and protects it from moisture. If there were no finish, moisture would go in and out of the wood and eventually create cracks in the wood.
Do you not know what happens with unfinished wood out in the wild?
long live the eb5. mine is a 2019. just put a hipshot A style bridge. all it needed as far as mods. fucken aswrsime bass.
whoops awesome.
I love the interviews, information and seeing the build process. But the music is too loud. It kills me to say that because the picking is awesome. Please one at at time
It's Really Water Base type Laqure now day real Laquer Paint Has been Band by Osha for like 36 yrs now
So don't be fooled 🎸
There are only 2 finishes for guitars, nitrocellulose and French polish. Anything other than those and you've lost a lot of the tone that was built into the instrument. I've been a luthier for 50 years by the way.
But the internet says…
@zakwyldesilver yeah, the infernalnet says a lot that just isn't true. Poly finishes, while nearly bulletproof, are thick and while that might be ok for an electric, it's just not good for acoustics to wear a thick coating of finish. I own one electric that has a poly finish every other guitar I own has nitrocellulos, except one OM that I French polished.
@@bryantcochran5065
I agree.
I’m not going to say one sounds better than the other, because “better” is completely subjective, but I will say they definitely sound different.
Maybe in 1960, but its 2024 now. A 2 part (hardener) automotive urethane clear dries rock hard in a week and you dont have to wait 2 decades for them to be resonant and ring like a bell. Ive been involved in paint and coatings for 30 years but a dime store luthier for 3 years and the harder coating the better it rings.. same stuff i clear cars with. It works well.
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Arguing about guitars...
Gibson blowing smoke again Nitrocellulose finishes have no tonal advantages on solid body electric guitars and stop putting your goofy looking Gibson headstock on the legendary Epiphones
Yeah but they are talking about acoustic guitars
Another internet expert feels the need to run his mouth and echo moronic ramblings of his fellow cretins.
@@GoodfaYou so what
@@LarrytheMan-uc4evwell you said it has no tonal advantages to solid body electric guitars, yet they’re talking about tonal advantages to acoustic guitars..?
Very well put also how does it feel that Epiphone is ruling the Roost once again like they did in the good o'l days it was over for Gibson after two things getting caught in lies during their miserably failed lawsuits and when JC Curliegh Restored Epiphone back to where they should have always been in 2020 epiphone was never meant to be a budget brand in the first place and they weren't until Norlin ruined them when they took over Gibson that all ends with JC Curliegh in 2019/2020