The bravery of facing this ny invincible enemy and the conviction to say: "Ok I''m probably gonna die doing this. But I''m gonna die a free man. And maybe the next maybe even the generation after that will profit from this seemingly pointless act that I'm doing right now." Takes a special kind of character to do that, to be a hero.
For your information, Teal'c succeeded in convincing him. After this, Gerek chose to return to Earth with him and cured the sick people - at the cost of his own life. His true Jaffa spirit prevailed, and he died free.
I love the line "Those who refuse to believe ... must die." followed by the most unconvincing stamping of his rod. A few scenes before that he really thumbs it down with authority. Great acting choice by Louis Gossett Jr.
Teal'c earned his place as one of the greatest Jaffa who ever lived, a true leader of his people and one of the Tau'ri's greatest and most loyal allies. All stemming from O'Neill looking him in the eye all those years ago and offering him the choice to help those prisoners instead of executing them. God I miss this show and its brilliant cast...Hell, I miss the whole franchise!
@@terrorcop101 Towards the last half of the 2nd season, it really picked up in my view, I would have liked a third series at least (going in the same direction as the better stuff). But it was just too late really. I suspect you had the same problems as a lot of people with SGU - It didn't really feel like Stargate a lot of the time, too many young people, relationships, annoying characters, too much edginess etc - That said, Greer was a genuinely cool character. Took me a while to appreciate him, but I did in the end. Definitely of of Stargates "hardest" non aliens in my view.
@@BaseDeltaZero1972 If it took that long to get good, then the phrase "too little, too late" sounds very appropriate. And you're right, it didn’t feel Stargate, it felt depressing.
Teal’c: “Then what is the measure of a god, Gerek? Is it the scope of their power or how they choose to wield that power? Would a god, who’s prepared to lead us down the path of enlightenment, so contradict this divine benevolence by destroying all those who refuse to believe in him?” ~ Stargate SG-1
@@LenAnderson856 very interesting question ... however it does make sense if you think about it . God is not just about peace but he has standards too . If a person chooses to violate the standards than death can be a result . For instance I can be a peaceful father to my sons but also defend them from an invader into my house to the point of death .. you can be both a peaceful person and at times be violent too . A god who loves people but will not tolerate wickedness.
@@scubasteveae86alemar74 but your example in in the case of a defender, in this case the God is an aggressor, giving only an ultimatum bend the knee or die and not even to vanquish the wicked but for the sake of control. And I think, though I may be wrong but, the Ori drew power from the faith of the people they ruled so its for more power they bring their "enlightenment" not strictly for the benefit of the faithful.
@@TheWarmaker01 I agree many people paint god as that type of person. As you say “ bend the knee or die “. Undoubtedly many people are taught that god is vindictive.. however a few key things need to be understood.. god is our maker and therefore has the right to decide what’s right and wrong . Whenever a person decides to go contrary to his standards the end result will be damage to others . That’s why you shall not murder is part of the commandments. When someone decides to be greedy and steal or kill ,god has the right to settle matters . That explains sodom and gamorah . The ten plagues of Egypt and the flood of Noah’s day and even down to our time . I’m looking for that time when god says no more hatred and will get rid of the wickedness in the world . No more murders . No more rapes . No more evil and hatred . He is a god of action and of love . Love impels him to act in favor of the righteous.... maybe you have never been taught that or been exposed to that idea or concept before . It can give us hope for a better future .
@@Halesburg Especially since this was produced in Vancouver a Pacific Northwest city. Saying it's surrounded by a 100 million metric acres of trees would've been an understatement.
He mentioned in an interview how is agent basically tricked him into playing Kratos. He's glad that he did it but if he had known beforehand, he wouldn't have gone for it. In his worldview, video games that were actors go to wind down their careers. Even mentioned how he looked over the script he was handed and was deeply impressed and didn't even realize it was a video game for a while.
@@SpartanSniper3 baldurs gate 2 felt like a movie because of the deep story and fantastic acting of david warner. I wish i could have met him. May he rest in peace.
Something that's underappreciated in this scene, is the subtle music cue at 1.35, it's the old Goa'uld theme that we used to hear, I think of it like the Goa'ul version of the imperial march from Star Wars. The sad diminished version of it was a nice touch.
For all I wasn't a big fan of the Ori arc, this scene made it all worth it to me. Teal'c calmly reminding Gerek that they've been in this exact spot before. That the Goa'uld looked just as divine back when this all started. That the Ori are only a difference in scale, not kind.
@@builder396 Teal'c literally was comparing them to the Goa'uld (the sarcophagi). I think the writers decided to just brush aside that he had also read the Bible after that one episode in Season 3 or 4.
Yeah i mean....its a pretty central prop. I feel like they put so much effort into other tech props and whatnot. But when it came to the staff they let the intern, Jerry sort it out.
This is how you know that the Ori are false Gods. For despite all the wonders that they produce for all to behold, they can't produce a real wooden staff. They purchase them from wal mart.
It is not the battles, that are fought and won, not the technologies crafted, but the "human" moments like this that won the war against the Ori. It was turning a prior against them. In the end, the Free Jaffa Nation fell. But they helped the galaxy to survive and ultimately defeat the ori.
The Ori essentially were vampires feeding off their followers. Much like the Wraith. But while the Ori had ascended the Wraith were still in their humanoid form.
Garak: "Why have you led me here?" Teal'c: "I thought it fitting, that on this day when we must sacrifice our short lived freedom, that we do so here at the site of the battle of Tsak Sur, where your father gave his life for this very cause. He began to doubt the Goa'uld as gods long before this rebellion took shape Garak, it was your father's death at their hands that led you to question, what god is so deserving of my worship." Garak: "You are not the one who was chosen, you did not witness the wonders I beheld." Teal'c: "Did they raise the dead? Heal the sick and wounded? Destroy their enemies with but a wave of their hand?"
"What is the measure of a god, Gerek? Is it the scope of their power or how they choose to wield that power?" *Both.* But... against what stick can a true god be measured? If there is a God who is the origin of everything, can He not be the only measure of Himself?
@@Not-Ap Can an omnipotent God create beings that can alter their image in a way that conflicts with His own? The answer in traditional religions is a clear, "Yes." In other words, not everything we experience or express is aligned with His image. So the question then is what is His image, and what deviates from it?
Seeing this scene on it's own (having already seen the whole series multiple times) I wonder if this arc would've had more of an impact if Teal'c was fighting to win Bra'tac back from having been converted into a Prior. Yes, I think it would've been a much further leap for Bra'tac to have become a worshipper of the Ori than to have someone that they had to created to fulfill this arc. However, imagine if Bra'tac, the man who helped open Teal'c's eyes to the falsehood of the Goa'uld, was the one who had been lured in by signs of true power and all the more the promise of ascension. This is something for which Bra'tac had also felt conflicted about by this time in his life. Then to have Teal'c help him to see the real reason why the Goa'uld were false gods to begin with. Not because they had the power, but because of how they used it. To make Bra'tac face the monument of a battle that might've even happened in the history of the series and force him to choose to take the life of his surrogate son or to see the truth for his own eyes once agian.
I didn't like the ori ark too much. Seems like it was rushed and could have been better explained with an additional season or 2 to go deeper. Possibly even revealing the original conflict between the ascended and the ori
after he cured the ori plague in the SGC personel, giving them antibodies to make their own cure with he spontaneously combusted while declaring "I die free".
What Teal'c says about rather dying free than returning to a life of slavery. I wonder how many people in the US would rather be slaves to the Federal Government than Free, even if being Free meant having a hard life. To be honest, I would rather be Free.
What an obtuse comparison. At what point is it too little freedom? At what point is it too much freedom? Comparing the blind faith of a religion to a republic government that is meant to be ran by the people, how ridiculous. Now, I'm not saying I don't have a problem with the USA Government, but to make a comparison to religion is laughable. Especially when you're comparing it as black and white, with no grey in between. You're either a slave of the government or you're free. What? Nothing in between? As I asked above, when is it too little or too much freedom? Do you want no government at all? Therefore no infrastructure? You wouldn't have a body of power to face against foreign enemies? Or what? You're going to tell me that you're still set on enough of a government to provide security? What a fickle opinion. What a childish opinion and action. Dividing it into black and white, one or the other. And never actually considering a middle ground. Because I bet as long as it doesn't apply to you, you're fine with it. It must be pretty convenient to want security when it applies to you, but not anyone else. You don't even consider the grey area to allow a civilized middle ground. You don't even consider that you should compromise yourself for other people. It is ostentatious to believe matters of the world doesn't involve you. How simple of a fool must be, to be so wrongly selfish. If you're going to be selfish anyways, why not actually do so in preparation of the future? Sure, you don't want the government to secure you now, but will that always be the case? You never know. And if you'd like it for the future, then it has to apply for the current futures, it has to apply to everyone. Otherwise, in this short sighted opinion of yours, you're going to do nothing but ostracize yourself. If you want to be a part of society and enjoy the products of society, then you have to answer how little or too much freedom is necessary. If not, then just go off the grid. Because if you don't want the security of society and the necessary government of society that must come with it, then I've no idea why you're here. Because order must be established with society.
@@ArcDragoon eh, too many faults in your comment, but the one I chuckled at is your idea that infrastructure cannot exist without a government. You accuse him of not looking at a grey area, but you yourself are also following black and white standards. That is beside the point. You knew full well the heart of his comment. He wasn't making a case for anarchy. He is pointing out the lack of freedom Americans have today. Now whether this lack of freedom is good or bad, I think it should be up to the individual in how they want to live. But interestingly him and many others like him get very upset with the idea of no drinking or smoking age limit. Or you can really freak people out by saying we should remove age of consent laws.
@@darthclide My comment about infrastructure, though you could say is black and white is more of a realistic approach. Here, let's say that we were able to eliminate the government of whatever country you're in, would that eliminate every other country too? No. Realistically, if one country fell, another would just swoop in and take its place. Oh, and yes, I fully hope that the original comment isn't about anarchy. However, that is why I asked how much is too much. And more importantly I said that his comparison between government and religion are two separate and ill fitting comparisons. Modern society can live without religion, that's why we have Atheists, the country and society hasn't fallen apart. But to say that and compare that to freedom of government is well... misguided. Modern society could not survive without some sort of structure. And regardless of what you say or do, most people will always herd under a leader. It is human nature. In addition, even if I know what I hope he means to say, at best all I can do is take what he said in black and white. If you don't take what was said literally, are you supposed to infer what he said? Are you the person in question? Are you somehow linked to his mind? Because I'm human, and I can't read minds. The best I can do over the internet as such is to read exactly what was said. If he means to say something else, he is free to elaborate and clarify. Otherwise, my initial comment stands. Especially when you say I have faults. What faults? I responded in kind with exactly what was given and pointed out the folly to do so. If I am wrong, you're free to correct me without assuming lack of information given.
@@darthclide Where and when HAS infrastructure been created without government? Since the idea that it cannot be is laughable, I'm sure you've got lots of examples to provide us with.
Right. Because being brainwashed by an evil space alien into having you kill all the non believers is comparable to wanting your government to fund free healthcare for its people.
@@Sarkkoth lol at your recolection of socialist and communist regimes of the past, and how the same thing happened every time. I will die free. Apparently, you will live to be a slave. Oh, lets not forget all the lucifarian cults these types participate in. So evil space alien or fallen angel... Both are as plausible if you talk with atheists or believers in either aliens or gods. Where did you grow up? Not anywhere with history books or??? Did you ever read about the ancient German communists? Same shit. Totalitarianism by the name socialism or communism, cronyism or corporatism, will not own me.
@@forwarddiscipline It's not the same. The government can democratically help its people with social programs without becoming an authoritarian state. We already have plenty of social programs in this country like the fire department, the police, the post office, the military etc.
@@Sarkkoth we have an indirect democracy that allows for certain necessary governance. Ours is a constitutional republic. There are individual rights garunteed by the will of the people that are being ruled away by law and contract enforced by law. These are treason against us. If you dont get that... If you dont get that we are being pushed to slavery and group validity, i will pray for you for what comes. It's like youd rather bring up shit I'm not talking about to invalidate whats been said, closing your eyes refusing to look at obvious treason.
@Jackson Scully They receive just a tiny fraction of a power from the Ori, making them believe they themselves have power, therefore they will ascend to become Ori. Which is bullshit because those "gods" will actually never let anyone else arise to their level to share that power. So, they have not ascended. Never will.
@@chimeragenesis361 correction, she was an Ascended. She was literally an Ori who took mortal form once more and, spoilers, once the team killed all the other Ori she was the only Ori left so she was getting 100% of the previously shared power.
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"I die free!" That's been the Jaffa resistance's motto ever since Bra'tac said it on the mothership.
Teal'c also said it when he thought he was about to die at the hands of Apophis on the Nox homeworld in S01e08 "The Nox"
The bravery of facing this ny invincible enemy and the conviction to say: "Ok I''m probably gonna die doing this. But I''m gonna die a free man. And maybe the next maybe even the generation after that will profit from this seemingly pointless act that I'm doing right now." Takes a special kind of character to do that, to be a hero.
Fun detail in this scene his prior markings are made from the Gold of his Jaffa brand implying that he simply traded one master for another.
Good point. I never thought of that
Woah. Nice theory that I will accept as headcanon for now on.
and at the same time you have teal'c wearing the armour of those who enslaved him.
@@jaywalkersuniteIt’s not a theory, they literally broke up his Marking and used it to make his Prior ones…you can see it’s solid gold 😂
Teal'c really was the best character in the whole show. God bless whoever wrote him.
indeed
Indeed
For your information, Teal'c succeeded in convincing him. After this, Gerek chose to return to Earth with him and cured the sick people - at the cost of his own life.
His true Jaffa spirit prevailed, and he died free.
I love the line "Those who refuse to believe ... must die." followed by the most unconvincing stamping of his rod. A few scenes before that he really thumbs it down with authority. Great acting choice by Louis Gossett Jr.
Teal'c earned his place as one of the greatest Jaffa who ever lived, a true leader of his people and one of the Tau'ri's greatest and most loyal allies. All stemming from O'Neill looking him in the eye all those years ago and offering him the choice to help those prisoners instead of executing them.
God I miss this show and its brilliant cast...Hell, I miss the whole franchise!
Did Universe get better? I only got a few episodes in before I decided it was too dark and grim for my tastes.
@@terrorcop101 Towards the last half of the 2nd season, it really picked up in my view, I would have liked a third series at least (going in the same direction as the better stuff). But it was just too late really.
I suspect you had the same problems as a lot of people with SGU - It didn't really feel like Stargate a lot of the time, too many young people, relationships, annoying characters, too much edginess etc - That said, Greer was a genuinely cool character. Took me a while to appreciate him, but I did in the end. Definitely of of Stargates "hardest" non aliens in my view.
@@BaseDeltaZero1972 If it took that long to get good, then the phrase "too little, too late" sounds very appropriate. And you're right, it didn’t feel Stargate, it felt depressing.
I thought SGU was incredible.
@@IsleOfFeldspar Good for you.
Teal’c: “Then what is the measure of a god, Gerek? Is it the scope of their power or how they choose to wield that power? Would a god, who’s prepared to lead us down the path of enlightenment, so contradict this divine benevolence by destroying all those who refuse to believe in him?”
~ Stargate SG-1
I need to frame this
@@The_Lunch_Man Finally an inspirational poster I can get behind :)=
@@LenAnderson856 very interesting question ... however it does make sense if you think about it . God is not just about peace but he has standards too . If a person chooses to violate the standards than death can be a result . For instance I can be a peaceful father to my sons but also defend them from an invader into my house to the point of death .. you can be both a peaceful person and at times be violent too . A god who loves people but will not tolerate wickedness.
@@scubasteveae86alemar74 but your example in in the case of a defender, in this case the God is an aggressor, giving only an ultimatum bend the knee or die and not even to vanquish the wicked but for the sake of control. And I think, though I may be wrong but, the Ori drew power from the faith of the people they ruled so its for more power they bring their "enlightenment" not strictly for the benefit of the faithful.
@@TheWarmaker01 I agree many people paint god as that type of person. As you say “ bend the knee or die “. Undoubtedly many people are taught that god is vindictive.. however a few key things need to be understood.. god is our maker and therefore has the right to decide what’s right and wrong . Whenever a person decides to go contrary to his standards the end result will be damage to others . That’s why you shall not murder is part of the commandments. When someone decides to be greedy and steal or kill ,god has the right to settle matters . That explains sodom and gamorah . The ten plagues of Egypt and the flood of Noah’s day and even down to our time . I’m looking for that time when god says no more hatred and will get rid of the wickedness in the world . No more murders . No more rapes . No more evil and hatred . He is a god of action and of love . Love impels him to act in favor of the righteous.... maybe you have never been taught that or been exposed to that idea or concept before . It can give us hope for a better future .
Daniel Jackson - Speech Level 100
Teal'c - Speech Level, 9000.
its over 9000 :D
Indeed.
this is like rolling with advantage and getting double nat 20s
Teal'c is a badass, whether's he's fighting with a Jaffa staff or with words.
He's also kratos btw :)
@@E-101-Beta Yeah, that's pretty well-known. What you probably DIDN'T know is that he's also Magneto.
@@SerathDarklands I actually did know that :) He was also the voice of piccolo in the much hated dragonball evolution movie.
@@E-101-Beta Now that, I DIDN'T know! But I didn't watch that literal turd, so that's probably why.
Words have power.
The only prop I ever hated in stargate was the prior staffs. They all looked so cheap, artificial and just plain crappy.
TRUE, THEY LOOK PLASTIC AS HELL.
They ARE plastic. Watch at 0:33 when he taps a little hard with it, the stick shakes.
Right? How hard would it be to have a carpenter make one or two wooden ones?
They look like LARP kit
@@Halesburg Especially since this was produced in Vancouver a Pacific Northwest city. Saying it's surrounded by a 100 million metric acres of trees would've been an understatement.
Tealc was MVP of the show.
Just remember how many enemies he has turned by word and deed alone.
...or gained valuable intelligence from interrogations, simply by standing there, stoically. :v
I guess it's fitting now Chris is Kratos. Kratos hates gods... Teal'c I think u can say almost the same :DD
He plays Kratos????
Indeed.
Christopher Judge will always be known a slayer of false gods. Reminds me of rise of legends when giacamo slays the cuotl false gods.
He mentioned in an interview how is agent basically tricked him into playing Kratos. He's glad that he did it but if he had known beforehand, he wouldn't have gone for it. In his worldview, video games that were actors go to wind down their careers. Even mentioned how he looked over the script he was handed and was deeply impressed and didn't even realize it was a video game for a while.
@@SpartanSniper3 baldurs gate 2 felt like a movie because of the deep story and fantastic acting of david warner. I wish i could have met him. May he rest in peace.
This is my absolute favorite scene in Stargate. And it is brilliant.
The price of freedom and the measure of a god.
this is one of the best scenes in Stargate it gives you goosebumps.
Something that's underappreciated in this scene, is the subtle music cue at 1.35, it's the old Goa'uld theme that we used to hear, I think of it like the Goa'ul version of the imperial march from Star Wars. The sad diminished version of it was a nice touch.
this show was a masterpiece for this kind of stuff
Actually I thought that the score in this scene was strangely reminiscent of The Lord of the Rings, fellowship of the ring.
@@danivarius Same here. Even the setting with the stone ruins, memorializing a forgotten battle. Very LOTR-esq.
The Prior staffs look like kids toys in this otherwise amazing scene.
Still one of my favorite moment in all of stargate
"Have we truly lived as slaves for so long we must fear being free.". God the writing was amazing, acting amazing, all around amazing times.
For all I wasn't a big fan of the Ori arc, this scene made it all worth it to me. Teal'c calmly reminding Gerek that they've been in this exact spot before. That the Goa'uld looked just as divine back when this all started. That the Ori are only a difference in scale, not kind.
Wow Teal'c... well done.
Shel kek nem ron...
Screensaver
Yes I remember this. One of my favorite scenes of the show. Made me tear up a little. Also when he sacrifices himself later on.
Some of the best sci-fi I've had the pleasure of watching. Thank you to everyone involved with Stargate.
Odin: Whoever holds this Hammer....If he be....
Teal'c: On your left
I ****ing love Teal'c!
and i miss him and Jack O'Neill so much...
Teal'c being awesome as fuck as usual
Damn that comparison "did they raise the dead?" Etc
Damn good writing
Was this Christopher judge's script?
"did they raise the dead?"
Goa'uld: "Are we a joke to you?"
@@builder396 Teal'c literally was comparing them to the Goa'uld (the sarcophagi). I think the writers decided to just brush aside that he had also read the Bible after that one episode in Season 3 or 4.
Teal'c tipped his fedora so hard at darek lmao
Man that plastic staff really kills the scene for me.
They should have made it look more Aesthetically functional. It looks like a Plastic staff, a prop :) :(
Yeah, it's really weird, right? Everything else in the scene is completely fine, why does the staff look like it was bought at Toys R Us?
Yeah i mean....its a pretty central prop.
I feel like they put so much effort into other tech props and whatnot. But when it came to the staff they let the intern, Jerry sort it out.
I was fine until you pointed it out. :|
This is how you know that the Ori are false Gods. For despite all the wonders that they produce for all to behold, they can't produce a real wooden staff. They purchase them from wal mart.
RIP Louis Gossett Jr
It is not the battles, that are fought and won, not the technologies crafted, but the "human" moments like this that won the war against the Ori. It was turning a prior against them.
In the end, the Free Jaffa Nation fell. But they helped the galaxy to survive and ultimately defeat the ori.
but the nation could rebuild. jaffa are still alive and likely moved the cpatial elsewhere
might just be the best scene in the whole show
Daddy tealc spitting bars yo
When you realise tealc invented talk no jutsu
Love this episode
The Ori essentially were vampires feeding off their followers. Much like the Wraith. But while the Ori had ascended the Wraith were still in their humanoid form.
jaffaaaaa kreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Its better to be free in hell than worship in heaven
Calm down edge lord.
Speechcraft 100
Chappy Sinclair needs a Snickers ;) :p
Today is a good day to die😊. This scene reminds me of lord of the rings, when Frodo and Sam go away on the little boat from Lothlorien.😊
"May the force be with us"
-Lt Jean Luc Picard
The Third Doctor in Firefly
What is the music at the end of the video, where Teal'c takes his staff from him?
juiuffophiguo you want it to be played when you're finished pissing ?
@@nexuser6886 rofl
@@nexuser6886 rofl read that again and killed me again
@@soni93200 shelkek nemron
@@nexuser6886 another one
Garak: "Why have you led me here?"
Teal'c: "I thought it fitting, that on this day when we must sacrifice our short lived freedom, that we do so here at the site of the battle of Tsak Sur, where your father gave his life for this very cause. He began to doubt the Goa'uld as gods long before this rebellion took shape Garak, it was your father's death at their hands that led you to question, what god is so deserving of my worship."
Garak: "You are not the one who was chosen, you did not witness the wonders I beheld."
Teal'c: "Did they raise the dead? Heal the sick and wounded? Destroy their enemies with but a wave of their hand?"
Only if I saw this before covid-19
Where is part 3 don’t leave me hanging bro
We need garak right now 2020
Garak was a fool and a coward
@@mattjones6578 I think he was referring to Garek healing the prior plague, and insinuating that he could help us with covid-19.
It would be nice if I could actually _hear_ the dialogue...
They really fucked Teal'c hair up during this season of the show.
"What is the measure of a god, Gerek? Is it the scope of their power or how they choose to wield that power?"
*Both.* But... against what stick can a true god be measured? If there is a God who is the origin of everything, can He not be the only measure of Himself?
the second is more important. jsut look what the people the ori subjectgate. they are still medivial times.
No especially when he creates beings in his own image. If it cannot temper it's own nature than expecting others below it to is just as foolish.
@@Not-Ap Can an omnipotent God create beings that can alter their image in a way that conflicts with His own? The answer in traditional religions is a clear, "Yes." In other words, not everything we experience or express is aligned with His image. So the question then is what is His image, and what deviates from it?
@@Revkor You can't be a god in any meaningful sense without the power to affect reality in ways beyond ours as mortals.
That's so deep
They could just take most of this dialogue and drop it into God Of War
Seeing this scene on it's own (having already seen the whole series multiple times) I wonder if this arc would've had more of an impact if Teal'c was fighting to win Bra'tac back from having been converted into a Prior. Yes, I think it would've been a much further leap for Bra'tac to have become a worshipper of the Ori than to have someone that they had to created to fulfill this arc. However, imagine if Bra'tac, the man who helped open Teal'c's eyes to the falsehood of the Goa'uld, was the one who had been lured in by signs of true power and all the more the promise of ascension. This is something for which Bra'tac had also felt conflicted about by this time in his life. Then to have Teal'c help him to see the real reason why the Goa'uld were false gods to begin with. Not because they had the power, but because of how they used it. To make Bra'tac face the monument of a battle that might've even happened in the history of the series and force him to choose to take the life of his surrogate son or to see the truth for his own eyes once agian.
how to you save a friend without a single hit, you make him kill you first
#videosthatendtoosoon
I didn't like the ori ark too much. Seems like it was rushed and could have been better explained with an additional season or 2 to go deeper. Possibly even revealing the original conflict between the ascended and the ori
Blame syfy.
did he died?
Yeah he did.
He died free.
after he cured the ori plague in the SGC personel, giving them antibodies to make their own cure with he spontaneously combusted while declaring "I die free".
@@Rikard_Nilsson 'spontanuously combusted' well... He did make his gods very angry.
Hallowed are the Ori
All of stargate in 3 minutes
What Teal'c says about rather dying free than returning to a life of slavery. I wonder how many people in the US would rather be slaves to the Federal Government than Free, even if being Free meant having a hard life. To be honest, I would rather be Free.
"I prefer dangerous freedom to peaceful slavery"
What an obtuse comparison.
At what point is it too little freedom?
At what point is it too much freedom?
Comparing the blind faith of a religion to a republic government that is meant to be ran by the people, how ridiculous. Now, I'm not saying I don't have a problem with the USA Government, but to make a comparison to religion is laughable.
Especially when you're comparing it as black and white, with no grey in between. You're either a slave of the government or you're free. What? Nothing in between?
As I asked above, when is it too little or too much freedom?
Do you want no government at all? Therefore no infrastructure? You wouldn't have a body of power to face against foreign enemies?
Or what? You're going to tell me that you're still set on enough of a government to provide security? What a fickle opinion.
What a childish opinion and action. Dividing it into black and white, one or the other. And never actually considering a middle ground. Because I bet as long as it doesn't apply to you, you're fine with it. It must be pretty convenient to want security when it applies to you, but not anyone else. You don't even consider the grey area to allow a civilized middle ground. You don't even consider that you should compromise yourself for other people. It is ostentatious to believe matters of the world doesn't involve you. How simple of a fool must be, to be so wrongly selfish. If you're going to be selfish anyways, why not actually do so in preparation of the future? Sure, you don't want the government to secure you now, but will that always be the case? You never know. And if you'd like it for the future, then it has to apply for the current futures, it has to apply to everyone. Otherwise, in this short sighted opinion of yours, you're going to do nothing but ostracize yourself.
If you want to be a part of society and enjoy the products of society, then you have to answer how little or too much freedom is necessary. If not, then just go off the grid. Because if you don't want the security of society and the necessary government of society that must come with it, then I've no idea why you're here. Because order must be established with society.
@@ArcDragoon eh, too many faults in your comment, but the one I chuckled at is your idea that infrastructure cannot exist without a government. You accuse him of not looking at a grey area, but you yourself are also following black and white standards.
That is beside the point. You knew full well the heart of his comment. He wasn't making a case for anarchy. He is pointing out the lack of freedom Americans have today. Now whether this lack of freedom is good or bad, I think it should be up to the individual in how they want to live. But interestingly him and many others like him get very upset with the idea of no drinking or smoking age limit. Or you can really freak people out by saying we should remove age of consent laws.
@@darthclide
My comment about infrastructure, though you could say is black and white is more of a realistic approach. Here, let's say that we were able to eliminate the government of whatever country you're in, would that eliminate every other country too? No. Realistically, if one country fell, another would just swoop in and take its place. Oh, and yes, I fully hope that the original comment isn't about anarchy. However, that is why I asked how much is too much. And more importantly I said that his comparison between government and religion are two separate and ill fitting comparisons. Modern society can live without religion, that's why we have Atheists, the country and society hasn't fallen apart. But to say that and compare that to freedom of government is well... misguided. Modern society could not survive without some sort of structure. And regardless of what you say or do, most people will always herd under a leader. It is human nature.
In addition, even if I know what I hope he means to say, at best all I can do is take what he said in black and white. If you don't take what was said literally, are you supposed to infer what he said? Are you the person in question? Are you somehow linked to his mind? Because I'm human, and I can't read minds. The best I can do over the internet as such is to read exactly what was said. If he means to say something else, he is free to elaborate and clarify. Otherwise, my initial comment stands. Especially when you say I have faults. What faults? I responded in kind with exactly what was given and pointed out the folly to do so. If I am wrong, you're free to correct me without assuming lack of information given.
@@darthclide Where and when HAS infrastructure been created without government? Since the idea that it cannot be is laughable, I'm sure you've got lots of examples to provide us with.
I die free used to be America's motto, but now everyone just begs government for everything.
I will die free.
Right. Because being brainwashed by an evil space alien into having you kill all the non believers is comparable to wanting your government to fund free healthcare for its people.
@@Sarkkoth lol at your recolection of socialist and communist regimes of the past, and how the same thing happened every time. I will die free. Apparently, you will live to be a slave. Oh, lets not forget all the lucifarian cults these types participate in. So evil space alien or fallen angel... Both are as plausible if you talk with atheists or believers in either aliens or gods.
Where did you grow up? Not anywhere with history books or??? Did you ever read about the ancient German communists? Same shit. Totalitarianism by the name socialism or communism, cronyism or corporatism, will not own me.
@@Sarkkoth also, snark much?
@@forwarddiscipline It's not the same. The government can democratically help its people with social programs without becoming an authoritarian state. We already have plenty of social programs in this country like the fire department, the police, the post office, the military etc.
@@Sarkkoth we have an indirect democracy that allows for certain necessary governance. Ours is a constitutional republic. There are individual rights garunteed by the will of the people that are being ruled away by law and contract enforced by law. These are treason against us. If you dont get that... If you dont get that we are being pushed to slavery and group validity, i will pray for you for what comes. It's like youd rather bring up shit I'm not talking about to invalidate whats been said, closing your eyes refusing to look at obvious treason.
Are priors at the end point of human evolution and the next stage is ascension?
@Jackson Scully They receive just a tiny fraction of a power from the Ori, making them believe they themselves have power, therefore they will ascend to become Ori. Which is bullshit because those "gods" will actually never let anyone else arise to their level to share that power. So, they have not ascended. Never will.
Adria was the only one close enough to ascend.
@@chimeragenesis361 correction, she was an Ascended. She was literally an Ori who took mortal form once more and, spoilers, once the team killed all the other Ori she was the only Ori left so she was getting 100% of the previously shared power.
@@anothisflame8266 at the beginning she wasn't an ascended though. She was a genetically improved human