I rented 5150s when they first came out to avoid taking an amp on the plane. I loved them. Suited my clean and dirty sides very well. I always figured I would own one but never got around to buying one.
I had a 6505+ come in to the shop with a lot of neglect. It had issues where the volume on both channels wouldn't kill the sound and any time you reduced the controls under 3 it would started to increase again and sound horrible. Caps were shot especially the decoupling cap. It looked the same way as that one does
If the dust from this triggers your allergies, you might need to apply for hazardous duty pay. lol Seriously though, seems like putting a cover on this when not used would be a good idea.
What's your opinion of the Peavey Triple X 120w head. Trucker plate series. That was my favorite amp. A bit noisy but probably nothing unusual for a high gain amp. Just wondering how they were internally. Thanks
I wonder if I can get you to do this on my Ampeg VL-1002 head and my Peavey Valveking 112 combo. I don't trust the folks here in Rural Alabama to do it for me. Both WERE working when I took a bass gig 6 years ago, now they want to fade in and out while playing.
As a peavey 6505MH owner, I wonder your opinion about stability of other high gain amps like ENGL, Soldano, or Randall. Are they more reliable than peavey 5150/6505 based on your experience?
Would like to learn more about cleaning pots. I have deoxit but you mentioned a second lubricating step. I have a 2000 model Eventide and the buttons need help too. Also an even older Rockman XPR with the same button issues, they need to be cleaned. My local tech says he only wants to work on point to point style circuits, no modern PCB things, so I watch faithfully.
He said he'd use Fader Lube after the Deoxit. Fader Lube (also called F5) is a product made by Deoxit so maybe he's using D5 first as a cleaner then F5 for lubrication.
Since the EVH's came from the SLO, how much SLO and/or Peavey DNA is in them? Since Fender actually makes these did they put their "DNA" into these in the way of design or parts? Just curious. I think Eddie should have just had Soldano make the EVH SLO and be done with it.
This is the Peavey, and it's lots like an SLO in the preamp, buuuuut: - they tacked on an extra gain stage - they got rid of the separate crunch/clean circuit from the SLO - the tonestack driver is a plate output stage with a truckload of NFB and a voltage divider before the tonestack to intentionally load it down
Uncle Ted would probably use whatever Brand of Amp, contributes the most to his Pension, and is anywhere close to the Tone he's trying to achieve . 😉 I still enjoy his Tunes, but, He's crazier than a Hoot Owl ! 🦉 LOL 🤣
@@PsionicAudio Its all good man, i know what you're saying, but i'm telling you, its not. Its used in in-body electronics such as heart defibs and other medical devices. Many white papers and other documents. In my field, avionics, its used in areas where large fluctuations in temp are expected. In almost every situation its not worth it, but bs, no.
I've got a Peavey Classic 50 410 that I have not powered up for two 1/2 years. It was working fine when last used. Should I just power it up and start using it once in a while? It's been in my living room the whole time. It's sitting right next to a large air purifier w/ionizer so not much dust. Should I build one of those limiters maybe? I really don't have any other need for one. Also I have a Carvin DCM 2000 amp I inherited nonworking from my brother. Is this amp good for a guitar amp, or a home stereo system or what? Worth repairing? My brother has a set of the big Klipsch Horns so I assume he was going to power those with it.
I believe Uncle Doug has a video on building and use of the light bulb current limiter. If you can trust yourself with it’s use, yes, build one. About the Classic 50, age and temperature are determining factors of electrolytic capacitors. How old is it? Did it ever get really hot? Was it maintained? Do you like/care about it? Answer those questions for yourself and proceed with caution or courage.
Why didn't I hear a "Holy F%$k" out of you following that feedback squeal, Lyle 16:56? I know you're a clean jazz/blues guy but COME ON. You gotta give tribute where it's due! LoL🤣
I play higher gain stuff too, but more Rush/Zep. The 5150 and Dual Recs are just bad copies of the much better sounding SLO. Wait until I'm done redoing that Dual Rec Trem-O-Verb. I'll be putting my money where my mouth is.
As an owner of two 5150's, and a person who does tech work as a hobby, personally I think the bias mod is worth it. Peavey has their tube stuff biased pretty cold, most Peavey tube amps are biased around 35-40% of max dissipation of their output tubes. In the case of the 5150, it makes more sense to bias them cold from factory, as colder bias translates to earlier breakup with more "crunch", which is the goal of this amp. Putting in adjustable bias can help "dial in" more headroom and a little bit more of a cleaner sound if you so choose. I like having the option of being able to "dial in" a little more headroom, or back it off for more crunch. It also is good to have the bias adjustable so when you put new tubes in, you won't have to worry about the potential of over-dissipating them. Just my $.02. :-)
It's not as crucial IMO as changing the heater wiring. The current drawn by the 6L6s likes to nuke the ribbon cables/connectors. As far as bias goes, the output tubes here have very little impact on the sound.
@@PsionicAudio Would a change in V1 of the preamp tubes be a better way to change the overall tone of the amp? I'v seen a couple of examples of mesa spax7 in V1. Any suggestions on preamp tubes(or who still has any for sale)? Seems like the usual places to buy tubes has dried up, at least short term. Thanks
Some like it some don’t. The point of the amp was to have the gain all coming from the preamp section. I just picked one up without a bias mod, don’t plan on doing it. When researching about it I seem to be finding a lot of folks either aren’t doing it or didn’t really get what they wanted from it. Euge Valovirta just did a video on de-modding his 5150 and his grin while playing it after it was reverted back to stock kind of told me whether the bias mod was really worth it (probably not). I think it sounds great as is personally, or throw your favorite OD in front of it. Either way it rips. To each their own.
God, I'm glad I got rid of mine. Treated it like a princess and it couldn't stay functioning properly. Also fender warranty repairs in my area were no help. Had a great sound WHEN it worked. Mind you, this was within a year of moderate use. Brand new.
Leave it to a 5150 user to keep the gain at 7😂 former owner of 3 separate 5150’s, I’ve paid my dues lol for anyone out there who still uses a 5150 you’d be very surprised how heavy it can still sound with the gain below 5. Second point of contention: if you take it out of your bedroom and actually turn it up, you will not need to move the resonance and presence controls to that extreme degree
I'm getting to the point where I'm finishing your sentences even when you don't. Long story, but I have nothing else to do but watch people do cool stuff that I can't do right now. I need to get out more... Obnoxious annoying white noise: "Thats a feature." Not my kind of amp.
You dont usually grow nuts, they're machined out of metal most of the time. I think they make them thousands at a time, probably not in pairs very often. I don't need any right now honestly. If that changes, there's a hardware store pretty close by. I can go pick out whatever size and type of nut i need there. They even put them in this handy little nut sack so i don't lose them.
"I'm not gonna reform these caps. Reforming is bullshit." Love it.
I heard that as well.
its not though
I rented 5150s when they first came out to avoid taking an amp on the plane. I loved them. Suited my clean and dirty sides very well. I always figured I would own one but never got around to buying one.
wow, that clean channel has all the gain I would ever want -- especially with the crunch mode engaged.
That is how I run mine. That and a Tube Screamer is all you need.
5150; the only amp I've ever heard that sounded broken when it was in perfect working order.
sounds like you can't dial a tone at all. you should hop in front of shinkansen
Sounds good. This amp needs to be played.
“At some point, I’m not your mother” 🤣💀
Great title
I had a 6505+ come in to the shop with a lot of neglect. It had issues where the volume on both channels wouldn't kill the sound and any time you reduced the controls under 3 it would started to increase again and sound horrible. Caps were shot especially the decoupling cap. It looked the same way as that one does
15:32 - there's a hum that goes away when I touch these nuts - well, usually it's the other way around :D
5150. The definitive sound of modern metal
I hope you're feeling better
If the dust from this triggers your allergies, you might need to apply for hazardous duty pay. lol Seriously though, seems like putting a cover on this when not used would be a good idea.
I'm got my 8-10s today! 😍😍😍🤤🤤🤤🤛
Holy smokes! Svt is Wednesday! 👏👏👏🙋🏽♂️
Enough gain to detect interstellar intelligence. If it wasn't for the noise!
magic sponge is amazing for that dust in the vinyl grooves if you're lazy af like me
Well that will wake you up...
What's your opinion of the Peavey Triple X 120w head. Trucker plate series. That was my favorite amp. A bit noisy but probably nothing unusual for a high gain amp. Just wondering how they were internally. Thanks
Eddie approves of this post..
Is this a sound-reinforcement company's backline amp? Or an occasionally-used recording studio amp?
I wonder if I can get you to do this on my Ampeg VL-1002 head and my Peavey Valveking 112 combo.
I don't trust the folks here in Rural Alabama to do it for me. Both WERE working when I took a bass gig 6 years ago, now they want to fade in and out while playing.
Wow the inside of it is like a damn beach.
Did Eddie actually use these PCB 5150's or did he have a more robust hand wired point to point version?
As a peavey 6505MH owner, I wonder your opinion about stability of other high gain amps like ENGL, Soldano, or Randall. Are they more reliable than peavey 5150/6505 based on your experience?
All amps should come with covers included. It would solve many problems.
Where are you located so I can send my 5150 block for repair? If your taking in repairs
Another technical question...if you touch the nuts till the hum goes away, is the smoke and nap afterwards count toward bench fee?
Never touch your nuts while doing electrical stuff.
I won't go near those flat cables with my fingers. I got electrocuted just by watching you do that.....
All an amp in storage needs is a couple of cut up garbage bags and some duct tape.
Would like to learn more about cleaning pots. I have deoxit but you mentioned a second lubricating step. I have a 2000 model Eventide and the buttons need help too. Also an even older Rockman XPR with the same button issues, they need to be cleaned. My local tech says he only wants to work on point to point style circuits, no modern PCB things, so I watch faithfully.
He said he'd use Fader Lube after the Deoxit. Fader Lube (also called F5) is a product made by Deoxit so maybe he's using D5 first as a cleaner then F5 for lubrication.
Since the EVH's came from the SLO, how much SLO and/or Peavey DNA is in them? Since Fender actually makes these did they put their "DNA" into these in the way of design or parts? Just curious. I think Eddie should have just had Soldano make the EVH SLO and be done with it.
story goes Eddie took the Soldano to peavey
they copied the preamp is practically identical
learn to read the schematics of both and see for yourself
This is the Peavey, and it's lots like an SLO in the preamp, buuuuut:
- they tacked on an extra gain stage
- they got rid of the separate crunch/clean circuit from the SLO
- the tonestack driver is a plate output stage with a truckload of NFB and a voltage divider before the tonestack to intentionally load it down
While we’re at it the Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier Solo amps (now just the rectifier series) we’re also “heavily inspired” by the SLO.
Sounds nothing like the slo I played. Way more gain, waaaay more noise.
looks like it participated to a plaster sanding job
Anyone know how much the 5150 head and the 5150 combo were when they first came out?
I got mine in 98 for $825. Used was real cheap for quite a while. $400 ish
I'll assume your wife was out shopping while you were testing this. 🤘
I've never seen a tube amp with the pre amp tubes inside the chassis. That just seems really ignorant to me. Interesting I suppose though
I have a Peavey Bravo 112, all the tubes are inside the chassis. They are accessible via a removable panel on the back, it is a strange design though.
If I remember right, Uncle Ted uses 2 of these instead of the Twins he used to use.
Yep. He used to use these. The last time a saw him (last year) he was using Kustom amps.
Uncle Ted would probably use whatever Brand of Amp, contributes the most to his Pension, and is anywhere close to the Tone he's trying to achieve . 😉
I still enjoy his Tunes, but, He's crazier than a Hoot Owl ! 🦉 LOL 🤣
Reforming is not bs.
It absolutely is but I don’t have time to argue today.
@@PsionicAudio Its all good man, i know what you're saying, but i'm telling you, its not. Its used in in-body electronics such as heart defibs and other medical devices. Many white papers and other documents. In my field, avionics, its used in areas where large fluctuations in temp are expected. In almost every situation its not worth it, but bs, no.
I've got a Peavey Classic 50 410 that I have not powered up for two 1/2 years. It was working fine when last used. Should I just power it up and start using it once in a while? It's been in my living room the whole time. It's sitting right next to a large air purifier w/ionizer so not much dust. Should I build one of those limiters maybe? I really don't have any other need for one. Also I have a Carvin DCM 2000 amp I inherited nonworking from my brother. Is this amp good for a guitar amp, or a home stereo system or what? Worth repairing? My brother has a set of the big Klipsch Horns so I assume he was going to power those with it.
I believe Uncle Doug has a video on building and use of the light bulb current limiter. If you can trust yourself with it’s use, yes, build one.
About the Classic 50, age and temperature are determining factors of electrolytic capacitors. How old is it? Did it ever get really hot? Was it maintained? Do you like/care about it?
Answer those questions for yourself and proceed with caution or courage.
Hey I know that reference.
Omg you didnt plug in the variac,did you check the flux capacitor,you 21.1 jigawatts
🤣
Why didn't I hear a "Holy F%$k" out of you following that feedback squeal, Lyle 16:56? I know you're a clean jazz/blues guy but COME ON. You gotta give tribute where it's due! LoL🤣
I play higher gain stuff too, but more Rush/Zep.
The 5150 and Dual Recs are just bad copies of the much better sounding SLO.
Wait until I'm done redoing that Dual Rec Trem-O-Verb. I'll be putting my money where my mouth is.
Is the bias mod on these amps worth the trouble?
As an owner of two 5150's, and a person who does tech work as a hobby, personally I think the bias mod is worth it. Peavey has their tube stuff biased pretty cold, most Peavey tube amps are biased around 35-40% of max dissipation of their output tubes. In the case of the 5150, it makes more sense to bias them cold from factory, as colder bias translates to earlier breakup with more "crunch", which is the goal of this amp. Putting in adjustable bias can help "dial in" more headroom and a little bit more of a cleaner sound if you so choose. I like having the option of being able to "dial in" a little more headroom, or back it off for more crunch. It also is good to have the bias adjustable so when you put new tubes in, you won't have to worry about the potential of over-dissipating them. Just my $.02. :-)
It's not as crucial IMO as changing the heater wiring. The current drawn by the 6L6s likes to nuke the ribbon cables/connectors.
As far as bias goes, the output tubes here have very little impact on the sound.
@@ExitThirteen Thanks for the insight on the bias mod. Sounds like it's useful enough to go ahead and try it.
@@PsionicAudio Would a change in V1 of the preamp tubes be a better way to change the overall tone of the amp? I'v seen a couple of examples of mesa spax7 in V1. Any suggestions on preamp tubes(or who still has any for sale)? Seems like the usual places to buy tubes has dried up, at least short term. Thanks
Some like it some don’t. The point of the amp was to have the gain all coming from the preamp section. I just picked one up without a bias mod, don’t plan on doing it. When researching about it I seem to be finding a lot of folks either aren’t doing it or didn’t really get what they wanted from it. Euge Valovirta just did a video on de-modding his 5150 and his grin while playing it after it was reverted back to stock kind of told me whether the bias mod was really worth it (probably not). I think it sounds great as is personally, or throw your favorite OD in front of it. Either way it rips. To each their own.
There would be no Peavey 5150 (or, for that matter, Mesa Rectifier series) if Mike Soldano didn’t first create the landmark SLO 100.
the goat
used to be a snakeskin slo 100 head in a music store around where I live. awesome amp, I used to drool over it.
Psalm 98:4 Make a joyful noise unto the Lord, all the earth: make a loud noise
no EVH repairs? interesting. I guess Fender's making them reliable
No, just not many people here seem to use them. I've had some in. Horrible things.
@@PsionicAudio well they're selling a ton of em. All made in mexico i guess along with the other fenders
God, I'm glad I got rid of mine. Treated it like a princess and it couldn't stay functioning properly.
Also fender warranty repairs in my area were no help. Had a great sound WHEN it worked.
Mind you, this was within a year of moderate use. Brand new.
Leave it to a 5150 user to keep the gain at 7😂 former owner of 3 separate 5150’s, I’ve paid my dues lol for anyone out there who still uses a 5150 you’d be very surprised how heavy it can still sound with the gain below 5. Second point of contention: if you take it out of your bedroom and actually turn it up, you will not need to move the resonance and presence controls to that extreme degree
I'm getting to the point where I'm finishing your sentences even when you don't. Long story, but I have nothing else to do but watch people do cool stuff that I can't do right now. I need to get out more... Obnoxious annoying white noise: "Thats a feature." Not my kind of amp.
Are you a tech or a maid now? Hehe, people should take better care of their amps. Jeez!
he is getting paid to clean it
y'all talking about nuts so much in the comments, it's as if you think you might finally grow a pair...
You dont usually grow nuts, they're machined out of metal most of the time. I think they make them thousands at a time, probably not in pairs very often. I don't need any right now honestly. If that changes, there's a hardware store pretty close by. I can go pick out whatever size and type of nut i need there.
They even put them in this handy little nut sack so i don't lose them.
@@constantk8780 🤭