Thank you got uploading this episode. I enjoyed it. This is the first time I’d heard about Keys trying to correct his own and other people’s misperceptions.
Suz Cost sadly far too late for millions of people who have spent half a lifetime struggling to lose weight, or even stay healthy, on the appalling healthy food mantra of the entire western world.
Lynne Gill indeed. Unfortunately there's a very active school of thought apparently determined to keep the errors present as doctrine. Nina Teicholz said that she asked Dr. Walter Willett why he suppressed the information from Keys' notebooks that his Cretan shepherds drank at least one cup of goat milk daily. Willett replied that he knows that saturated fat is unhealthy and releasing this information would encourage people to consume dairy products!
@@SuzanneU I know this is an old comment, but Willett is one of the most disingenuous in the nutrition sphere today. He's a vegan, and cant see past his own biases even when evidence of other things being healthy are staring right at him. He didn't release that info because he wants to push the plant-based agenda. And sat fats aren't bad for you, it's the unnatural, seed and veg-based oils he pushes that are scientifically proving to be the worst (think: soybean, canola, corn, safflower, etc).
Yep, but they still sell it as 'olive oil' so it's false advertising. I think they do the same with other expensive oils too, like avocado, macadamia nut, etc.
If your country doesnt have olive trees your body might take more to clarified butter, or ghee, it is also really good for you if you can make it from organic grass fed cows who are looked after properly…
Ghee is a good alternative, for eg the UK doesnt have olive trees but you can still find organic grass fed cows milk to make ghee or as we would have called it, clarified butter
This title is very misleading. It barely touches on the lost secrets. I am so tired of terms like "high" fat. What consitutes high fat and what kind of fat? Also, the Mediterranean diet is NOT 'universally" accepted for longevity. Apparently this guy knows nothing about keto-definitely high fat, and even carnivore claims and even some supporting evidence for benefit from them. I am so glad to hear one of the speakers start with vegetables as the first food in the protocol. Yet contemporary Mediterranean restaurants offer little variety of vegetable dishes. When I traveled in Italy and Frane, if there was any food people left on their plates in restaurants, it was the vegetables. He also neglects to say that not all olive oil is "medicinal." It must have a peppery taste/feel in order to contain the most essential element of its value. I was intrigued by the title that appeared when they were talking about a manuscript that Ancel Keyes could not get published. Low carb? Mediterranean? What would be the proportion?
And honestly, even though the Standard American Diet pushes for low fat and higher carb/sugar, most Americans still eat a lot of fat, much of it the actual bad fats in the forms of margarines, and seed oils like soy and corn, canola, etc. I honestly don't think an average Keto or carnivore person eats THAT much more fat than SADers. It's the plant-based ppl that often reallly push for low fat. And when they talk about these mediterranean diets, they never go into detail about how they don't eat all that much grains, and the ones they eat aren't the high-gluten GMO dwarf wheat-type grains we grow and use here in USA, and they definitely gloss over that they also eat a lot of animal products and fats. They just focus on the veggies and olive oil.
I find the Greek Mediterranean diet better because Italians eat too much pasta!! From refined wheat, now imported from Canada and USA. I lived in Naples ( island of Ischia) for 25 years, amazing healthy food but way to much pasta and bread. In the 60's the Italians were the most obese people in southern Europe.
I'd rather not die sooner if I can control some factors to allow me to live a quality longer life. You can live a short painful life if you like. I wouldn't wish it on you though.
@@imannews5419 Ya, what this person said was awful advice lol. And not only will doing that kill you sooner, but your quality of life would be a lot more negatively effected. Some ppl are just more interested in pleasure from food and living to eat rather than eating to live. (That being said, you can make some healthier versions of those things to have occasionally and you can still eat a lot of beautiful food. And the Steak is just fine, a little good cheese is fine. But the pasta, the cake, the potatoes even are baaaaaad.)
Our cell membranes need to maintain their fluidity, and too much of olive oil affects the fluidity of the cell membrane. Why does Malhotra ignore this fact?
Yes, so never wash your food, never cut it, basically just swallow it whole to avoid any harmful effects of processing. Good luck with that watermelon.
Tony Ofarrell hilarious though, the combination of “don’t use oil”, “use butter” and “don’t just believe everything on TH-cam”. Are you trying to get an award for inconsistency?
Michael Riess I didnt say use butter,I just pointed out there are Greek people who use other fats besides oil,yes there's a difference between fats that are solid and one's that are liquid,solid fats being healthier.
Thank you got uploading this episode. I enjoyed it. This is the first time I’d heard about Keys trying to correct his own and other people’s misperceptions.
Suz Cost sadly far too late for millions of people who have spent half a lifetime struggling to lose weight, or even stay healthy, on the appalling healthy food mantra of the entire western world.
Lynne Gill indeed. Unfortunately there's a very active school of thought apparently determined to keep the errors present as doctrine. Nina Teicholz said that she asked Dr. Walter Willett why he suppressed the information from Keys' notebooks that his Cretan shepherds drank at least one cup of goat milk daily. Willett replied that he knows that saturated fat is unhealthy and releasing this information would encourage people to consume dairy products!
@@SuzanneU I know this is an old comment, but Willett is one of the most disingenuous in the nutrition sphere today. He's a vegan, and cant see past his own biases even when evidence of other things being healthy are staring right at him. He didn't release that info because he wants to push the plant-based agenda. And sat fats aren't bad for you, it's the unnatural, seed and veg-based oils he pushes that are scientifically proving to be the worst (think: soybean, canola, corn, safflower, etc).
Pity that a large proportion of Olive Oil on the market is adulterated by other cheap PUFA oils that cause inflammation.
Yep, but they still sell it as 'olive oil' so it's false advertising. I think they do the same with other expensive oils too, like avocado, macadamia nut, etc.
I think lack of stress is probably more their secret.
If your country doesnt have olive trees your body might take more to clarified butter, or ghee, it is also really good for you if you can make it from organic grass fed cows who are looked after properly…
Not the same fat makeup at all.
@@oolala53 No but it's still healthier and better than the vegetable oils and margarines they push for the SAD.
There is no one Mediterranean diet,there are parts of Greece where the locals do not use olive oil,they prefer butter,or lard for cooking
Never heard of such a thing, I'm a local.
Ghee is a good alternative, for eg the UK doesnt have olive trees but you can still find organic grass fed cows milk to make ghee or as we would have called it, clarified butter
Modern Greek practices are not necessarily what was studied.
This title is very misleading. It barely touches on the lost secrets. I am so tired of terms like "high" fat. What consitutes high fat and what kind of fat? Also, the Mediterranean diet is NOT 'universally" accepted for longevity. Apparently this guy knows nothing about keto-definitely high fat, and even carnivore claims and even some supporting evidence for benefit from them. I am so glad to hear one of the speakers start with vegetables as the first food in the protocol. Yet contemporary Mediterranean restaurants offer little variety of vegetable dishes. When I traveled in Italy and Frane, if there was any food people left on their plates in restaurants, it was the vegetables. He also neglects to say that not all olive oil is "medicinal." It must have a peppery taste/feel in order to contain the most essential element of its value. I was intrigued by the title that appeared when they were talking about a manuscript that Ancel Keyes could not get published. Low carb? Mediterranean? What would be the proportion?
And honestly, even though the Standard American Diet pushes for low fat and higher carb/sugar, most Americans still eat a lot of fat, much of it the actual bad fats in the forms of margarines, and seed oils like soy and corn, canola, etc. I honestly don't think an average Keto or carnivore person eats THAT much more fat than SADers. It's the plant-based ppl that often reallly push for low fat.
And when they talk about these mediterranean diets, they never go into detail about how they don't eat all that much grains, and the ones they eat aren't the high-gluten GMO dwarf wheat-type grains we grow and use here in USA, and they definitely gloss over that they also eat a lot of animal products and fats. They just focus on the veggies and olive oil.
I find the Greek Mediterranean diet better because Italians eat too much pasta!! From refined wheat, now imported from Canada and USA. I lived in Naples ( island of Ischia) for 25 years, amazing healthy food but way to much pasta and bread. In the 60's the Italians were the most obese people in southern Europe.
But the most obese does not mean that a lot of them were obese. Since obesity was extremely low in Europe in the 60's.
They smoke...
antokindness nice one.
Smoking doesn’t cause heart disease?
Smoke is antibacterial and kills any infection in the lungs and blood. High nicotine can also be helpful for keeping your mouth free of germs.
@@cabbage4254 lol !!!
No matter what diet we will die, so enjoy the pasta, the potatoes, the cake, the steak, the cheese, the pizza etc
I'd rather not die sooner if I can control some factors to allow me to live a quality longer life. You can live a short painful life if you like. I wouldn't wish it on you though.
@@imannews5419 Ya, what this person said was awful advice lol. And not only will doing that kill you sooner, but your quality of life would be a lot more negatively effected. Some ppl are just more interested in pleasure from food and living to eat rather than eating to live. (That being said, you can make some healthier versions of those things to have occasionally and you can still eat a lot of beautiful food. And the Steak is just fine, a little good cheese is fine. But the pasta, the cake, the potatoes even are baaaaaad.)
Our cell membranes need to maintain their fluidity, and too much of olive oil affects the fluidity of the cell membrane. Why does Malhotra ignore this fact?
Does he? Does it? Not true
@@OdysseusMDA Yes, yes, it is true. Do read up on the science.
Maybe because Cretan men were long-lived but ingested cups or even pints of good quality oil a day?
@@1967davidfitness how about a link, please? There's way too much conflicting information available on the internet.
Oil is a processed food,while olives themselves can be good for you,the oil is not,
you right oil is adulturated
Yes, so never wash your food, never cut it, basically just swallow it whole to avoid any harmful effects of processing. Good luck with that watermelon.
Tony Ofarrell hilarious though, the combination of “don’t use oil”, “use butter” and “don’t just believe everything on TH-cam”. Are you trying to get an award for inconsistency?
Michael Riess if thats the best you can do,you need more olive oil
Michael Riess I didnt say use butter,I just pointed out there are Greek people who use other fats besides oil,yes there's a difference between fats that are solid and one's that are liquid,solid fats being healthier.