Hi Danny I actually planted my miltonia sunset orchid in orchidpon about a week before you posted your last video about this, I have it in a lechuza Deltini pot and It actually seems really happy in the substrate and is growing well, I do make sure I flush it out every week though just in case. After watching your videos though there is no way I’m putting my phalaenopsis orchids in the orchidpon. Thanks so much for your videos they are so helpful and have really inspired me to grow orchids.
If you still have extra Orchidpon, can you try it on Hoyas? Just curious if it would be the same with hoyas in regular pon. 🤭🙃 And THAT is what we call a tray! Love it!
Most of my orchids (mostly Phals) are either in Pon or Orchipon for almost a year now and they are all doing good. At the moment I would say I had more problems with the standard substrate or Seramis which I also tried.
One phaneleopsis since 2018 in this pot with PON… it looks good, flowers, never had a burn. ☺️ the rest is in leca since the same year, also no problems
In the second video you mentioned that you would be open to trying a version of Pon without Fertilizer, there actually is such a version now. It's called Basicpon (also from Lechuza) and only contains the substrate materials. Would be interesting to hear your take on that in the future. Thanks for sharing your experiences for the rest of us to learn from!
I’ve never heard of Pon. but if I ever see it I’ll know it’s not for orchids. Bark works well for me. Thanks for all the information. And. You are right, if you don’t have a lot of room, those pots are too big. I have a small house and I couldn’t use them. I hope your family and friends are safe.
Off topic: love the new tray ❤ (didn't like these pots the moment I saw in your first video😅) I did have some hopes with the orchidpon 🤷♂️ "it is what it is" like you say 😉
As you say, I have almost all my multihybrids in pon or in similar mineral substrate for succulents and grow them very successful. Best substrate ever, independent on the pot used. But I would, too, never ever put a phalaenopsis into it. 🤷♀️
This video came a bit late Dani, I have tried these before and also for me a big no. The roots of my orchids completely mushed out (I've tried on phalaenopsis, and miltoniopsis; lost the phalaenopsis but managed to recover the miltoniopsis after changing the orchid pon to bark and spaghnum moss). Anyway, I appreciate the video as I thought I did something wrong and couldn't find any reviews or information out there about this setup 😀
Hello again! I have not yet had an opportunity to investigate this specific issue with orchids, it is documented and I believe scientifically understood in other flowering plants that another reason for purpling or reddening in plant leaves *may* be poor P (phosphorus) utilization or uptake. My own experience has been with leaf petioles turning purple in conjunction with poor fruit set, and the problem was related to both soil temperature and pH combining to make what P was present essentially unavailable for the plants to take up and utilize. Small market crop of tomatoes and the things you learn through the county ag extension (a service in many counties or parishes in the US). Since many orchids, especially monopodial like the Phaleonopsis spp and hybrids, don't actually h *have* petioles, I find myself wondering if the purpling and other problems you observed with the Orchidpon might be associated with phosphorous utilization issues.
Definitely not 😁 ps: a few years ago there was the same theory but with magnesium, which also I don't think it's the case. As far as my experience goes, it's solely related to light 😊
Thank you for another awesome video and testing products for us viewers. Needless to say I wont try it on my healthy orchid anytime soon. Once you find your media of choice that works in your conditions it's hard to be tempted to try something new. Your birds are too funny, they feature well in every vids haha thanks for the laugh! Also regarding the redding of the phals leaves, I have noticed the ones with purple/reddish flowers the leaves are changing colours, could this be related? I don't have enough orchids to support the theory but all of the ones I have that have red/purple colour on the flowers tend to have red pigments on their leaves.
Hi, I think grow lights will be a great investment! If you're struggling with maintaining higher temperatures, consider a grow cabinet, such as the Ikea ones! The lights inside will maintain a warmer temperature, I find it better than heated mats. If low humidity, focus on orchids that don't get affected by that, I have quite a few videos on that. Guess that's about it off the top of my head, hope it helps! 😊
Buna Dani. Am o dilema. Folosesc la orhideele mele scoarta de pin simpla, dar se usuca radacinile foarte repede. Mi-ar fi placut sa incerc combinatia pe care o folosesti tu, de scoarta si muschi sphagnum, dar unde locuiesc nu e prea accesibil. Cu ce crezi ca as putea inlocui muschiul sphagnum ? Vizionez cu drag toate video-urile tale. 🤗
Hi Dany, can you make an update video about the dendrobium phalaenopsis "burrana green" because I have it too but mine has no roots and even if I put sfagnum moss on the top layer the roots stop growing 🥺
@@jessicabey275 ive seen her video she says she sprays it but you don't see her do it so I don't know if she does the underside which is the plants "lungs". I have 80 already die because of thrips. I have 20 left.
Anyone who expects you to use perfectly healthy orchids for all your experiments obviously does not experiment with their own babies. I had the same thoughts and conclusions as you came to with those pots. They are nice, but not really useful for larger collections. Your ladies will be up and happy in no time now that you have refreshed them
Definitively not true. Hydroponic can work, but the media needs to be right. I have jewel orchids and some hoyas thriving in leca and pumice. I'm working on getting the media right for my other orchids and believe it can be done. There are several good examples of how people get it to work.
@@MissOrchidGirl the only problem i have seen with hoya is the roots get too long and when they start touching the water thats the problem. Also they don't like to get their roots cut like philodendrons, all my cuttings i have try to root in hydroponic have die, maybe i have to try more and see what is the right level of water i should use. I Think i'm doing something wrong
@@victoredwardo9485 nothing wrong with roots growing into the reservoir. My Hoyas love leca and the roots grow directly into the reservoir. I just leave them there. They love pon too but I use pon the same way you would use soil without a reservoir. I only give pon a reservoir if there’s a layer of leca on the bottom, and I haven’t actually tried that with any Hoya (just anthurium, philos, and epipremnum). Otherwise it stays too wet (note that self watering pots are different and suck up water more slowly than if you had a reservoir where the entire bottom of substrate is submerged in water like you would with leca).
My orchids appreciate you! And I love you! Thank you for your wisdom!
Hi Danny I actually planted my miltonia sunset orchid in orchidpon about a week before you posted your last video about this, I have it in a lechuza Deltini pot and It actually seems really happy in the substrate and is growing well, I do make sure I flush it out every week though just in case. After watching your videos though there is no way I’m putting my phalaenopsis orchids in the orchidpon. Thanks so much for your videos they are so helpful and have really inspired me to grow orchids.
I am only using sphagnum moss and bark with my orchid now. I just love following you.
I always find your information so helpful. I have six orchids and three of them are flowering right now. I’ve never had that happen before
Thanks for your testing of the product. I never felt that it was a good idea for orchids but now we know. Love all your videos. So informative.
If you still have extra Orchidpon, can you try it on Hoyas? Just curious if it would be the same with hoyas in regular pon. 🤭🙃
And THAT is what we call a tray! Love it!
There are some yters who use regular pon for hoyas and it works 🤔
This is exactly what I use for Hoyas. Works far better than any other substrate long term.
Most of my orchids (mostly Phals) are either in Pon or Orchipon for almost a year now and they are all doing good. At the moment I would say I had more problems with the standard substrate or Seramis which I also tried.
One phaneleopsis since 2018 in this pot with PON… it looks good, flowers, never had a burn.
☺️ the rest is in leca since the same year, also no problems
I have a similar tray. I don't remember where I got it, but I love the compartments on the top.
In the second video you mentioned that you would be open to trying a version of Pon without Fertilizer, there actually is such a version now. It's called Basicpon (also from Lechuza) and only contains the substrate materials. Would be interesting to hear your take on that in the future. Thanks for sharing your experiences for the rest of us to learn from!
Aah cool, will check it out 😁
I have an oncidium orchid in pon and super happy :)
I’ve never heard of Pon. but if I ever see it I’ll know it’s not for orchids. Bark works well for me. Thanks for all the information. And. You are right, if you don’t have a lot of room, those pots are too big. I have a small house and I couldn’t use them. I hope your family and friends are safe.
Off topic: love the new tray ❤ (didn't like these pots the moment I saw in your first video😅)
I did have some hopes with the orchidpon 🤷♂️ "it is what it is" like you say 😉
Great vid Danni 🤩
I love to use pon with all of my houseplants, but I didn’t try it with orchids. But I always wash the pon in water till the water is completely clean.
As you say, I have almost all my multihybrids in pon or in similar mineral substrate for succulents and grow them very successful. Best substrate ever, independent on the pot used. But I would, too, never ever put a phalaenopsis into it. 🤷♀️
This video came a bit late Dani, I have tried these before and also for me a big no. The roots of my orchids completely mushed out (I've tried on phalaenopsis, and miltoniopsis; lost the phalaenopsis but managed to recover the miltoniopsis after changing the orchid pon to bark and spaghnum moss). Anyway, I appreciate the video as I thought I did something wrong and couldn't find any reviews or information out there about this setup 😀
Came too late? What do you mean
Hello again! I have not yet had an opportunity to investigate this specific issue with orchids, it is documented and I believe scientifically understood in other flowering plants that another reason for purpling or reddening in plant leaves *may* be poor P (phosphorus) utilization or uptake. My own experience has been with leaf petioles turning purple in conjunction with poor fruit set, and the problem was related to both soil temperature and pH combining to make what P was present essentially unavailable for the plants to take up and utilize. Small market crop of tomatoes and the things you learn through the county ag extension (a service in many counties or parishes in the US).
Since many orchids, especially monopodial like the Phaleonopsis spp and hybrids, don't actually h *have* petioles, I find myself wondering if the purpling and other problems you observed with the Orchidpon might be associated with phosphorous utilization issues.
Definitely not 😁 ps: a few years ago there was the same theory but with magnesium, which also I don't think it's the case. As far as my experience goes, it's solely related to light 😊
Thank you for another awesome video and testing products for us viewers. Needless to say I wont try it on my healthy orchid anytime soon. Once you find your media of choice that works in your conditions it's hard to be tempted to try something new. Your birds are too funny, they feature well in every vids haha thanks for the laugh!
Also regarding the redding of the phals leaves, I have noticed the ones with purple/reddish flowers the leaves are changing colours, could this be related? I don't have enough orchids to support the theory but all of the ones I have that have red/purple colour on the flowers tend to have red pigments on their leaves.
Thanks for the information. I don’t think I will be using Orchidpon. I’m not sure it’s available in the US anyway. 🤗👏🥰🌹
I am so inspired! Do you have any advice for growing orchids indoors in Alaska?
Hi, I think grow lights will be a great investment! If you're struggling with maintaining higher temperatures, consider a grow cabinet, such as the Ikea ones! The lights inside will maintain a warmer temperature, I find it better than heated mats. If low humidity, focus on orchids that don't get affected by that, I have quite a few videos on that. Guess that's about it off the top of my head, hope it helps! 😊
@@MissOrchidGirl you are awesome! Thank you 🙏🏼
I’ve got humidifiers all through my house, but I think I will invest in some grow cabinets!
You can soak the Orchidpon and then measure the ppm with a TDS meter. I guess it would be very high.
9:55 Joey clearly wanted to put her two cents in about the orchid pon
Good to know❣️
Buna Dani. Am o dilema. Folosesc la orhideele mele scoarta de pin simpla, dar se usuca radacinile foarte repede. Mi-ar fi placut sa incerc combinatia pe care o folosesti tu, de scoarta si muschi sphagnum, dar unde locuiesc nu e prea accesibil. Cu ce crezi ca as putea inlocui muschiul sphagnum ?
Vizionez cu drag toate video-urile tale. 🤗
Hi, este greu de inlocuit moss-ul, dar poate LECA si semi hydro merge incercat! 😊
@@MissOrchidGirl Multumesc frumos 🤗
Hi Dany, can you make an update video about the dendrobium phalaenopsis "burrana green" because I have it too but mine has no roots and even if I put sfagnum moss on the top layer the roots stop growing 🥺
Foarte interesante videoclipurile dv.! Dar a-ți putea sa activați și traducerile? Pe mine m-ar ajuta mult mai bine.
Hi, nu exista auto translate pe TH-cam in acest moment, doar auto subtitles in limba originala.
@@MissOrchidGirl Bună dimineața! Mulțumesc frumos pentru răspuns! Ar fi fost de mare ajutor.
Hey Ms. Dani, what’s your take on water culture method?
Oh heck no 😁
I think that orchidpon can be used to aglaonema, but definitely not for my orchids.
I think that really depends on orchids. That looks quite good for my Habenaria. And in my climate some other moisture loving orchids.
When your orchid had thrips did you use leaf shine on the underside of the leaf?
She has videos on it. I would search or scroll through her videos
@@jessicabey275 ive seen her video she says she sprays it but you don't see her do it so I don't know if she does the underside which is the plants "lungs". I have 80 already die because of thrips. I have 20 left.
Hi, yes I did, but veeeeeery carefully!
i'm sorry if i missed this update- do you not spray with H2O2 anymore?
Hi, I only spray new orchids which most often than not are infested with snails. No need for old orchids 😊
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Anyone who expects you to use perfectly healthy orchids for all your experiments obviously does not experiment with their own babies. I had the same thoughts and conclusions as you came to with those pots. They are nice, but not really useful for larger collections. Your ladies will be up and happy in no time now that you have refreshed them
Why can't I see your face?
I belive orchids and hoyas are those plants that can't live un hydroponic
Definitively not true. Hydroponic can work, but the media needs to be right. I have jewel orchids and some hoyas thriving in leca and pumice. I'm working on getting the media right for my other orchids and believe it can be done. There are several good examples of how people get it to work.
Definitely untrue 😁
@@MissOrchidGirl the only problem i have seen with hoya is the roots get too long and when they start touching the water thats the problem. Also they don't like to get their roots cut like philodendrons, all my cuttings i have try to root in hydroponic have die, maybe i have to try more and see what is the right level of water i should use. I Think i'm doing something wrong
@@victoredwardo9485 nothing wrong with roots growing into the reservoir. My Hoyas love leca and the roots grow directly into the reservoir. I just leave them there. They love pon too but I use pon the same way you would use soil without a reservoir. I only give pon a reservoir if there’s a layer of leca on the bottom, and I haven’t actually tried that with any Hoya (just anthurium, philos, and epipremnum). Otherwise it stays too wet (note that self watering pots are different and suck up water more slowly than if you had a reservoir where the entire bottom of substrate is submerged in water like you would with leca).