Considering the time remaining to CES, I’d like to see a progress pic of PI.4 every day or every other day. The clean room parts have me wondering if the hatch panel is going to be built in it. Lots to look forward to!
There SHOULD be a photo update every day till the show. They have Chris there, it seems it would be his JOB to do this. So the absence of photos and real news SHOULD be a concern.
Thanks for the update Steve. So exciting. Much is happening now and with an attitude of, "We can do it!" It certainly is crunch time for Aptera and they deserve our full support. I have invested.
Appreciate you bringing these details from several sources together Steve. The clean room is an interesting note, and it's always good to see build progress.
I had forgotten about the Aptera Forum - there was a super active one back in the day (I was a moderator on that old forum); and I know they wanted to try and continue it. I am sorry to see it shut down. But, I have now joined the AOC Discord!
Did anyone watch the new destructive testing of 'Sakuu Batteries' being conducted at Munro Live? Amazing!!! they were conducting live fire testing on it to do the piercing test, and the damn thing still works without any hitch. Imagine the efficiency Aptera can gain from weight reduction in the battery packs from those batteries. I am curious about the volumetric and gravimetric densities though.
@@artsmith103 I dont know if it will have that effect. But assuming it would, do u think they would do that on purpose? I can't think of why they would want that.
@@TheHubra I think it's exclusively for that reason. They are deleting an entire library of searchable input that documents years of failed deliveries. USCG was 4th or more professional investment attempt that completley failed. Aptera pulled a fast one implying USCG would be a quick 60-90 day $60M raise and crowdfunding would be locked out. Aptera crowdfunded a quick $5-6M before USCG began. Now Aptera needs to find 10s of $millions more donations. One thing we don't know is who initiated hopeful Aptera/USCG relations? If it was USCG, they really scammed Aptera at their own game.
It is great to see the build progress leading up to CES. I'm sure that there is a lot of work in getting the functionality of all of the production intent parts. No doubt they will try and assemble the solar panel production room soon (now?) to build the cleanest and best looking solar panels for the PI model(S) going to CES. 3 weeks will happen in a flash. 🚗⚡
Aptera was trying to keep costs down without paint. What if other cars intended to be painted can now benefit from solar with only a small additional cost?
I'm in the Discord! Haven't posted a lot in it though. Last time I posted was in 2023. Did a couple posts way back then about the Honda electric Motocompacto. Also very happy that Aptera is now on BlueSky.
Getting energized again, going to take out my John Luc Picard uniform and sew the moth eaten parts. If people are going to stare at me I might as well look as Sci Fi as my Aptera.
@@artsmith103 I first tried to order one in 2007 when my daughter was just entering kindergarten. Today she is in medical school. I'm hoping to drive it before she is a doctor or I'm too old and she takes the car keys away from me. But at this rate I'm skeptical.
@@alansnyder8448 I'm extremely skeptical. Enjoy your curiosity in the trike but definitely don't donate any money to them. 1 doctor in my family and a few engineers. Congratulations!
It would be really eye-catching, if they had the bandwidth, to show not only the show car PI4, but PI2 and PI3 in a presentable trim, and arrange them all in a formation. But, if they only manage PI4, I'm ok with that. Should they take Gamma along with PI4?
As I suggest on a TH-cam video with address ending /watch?v=warVVm5PUZo, you're already building a charging system into your vehicle so why not just put in an expansion port so we can park next to an array at our homes and plug in to accelerate the solar charging? It just seems like a logical thing to do if you want to add value and give people another great reason to buy your product. If it's as easy as plugging in a DC connector to a socket and having your car's solar array circuit run through my solar panel array on their way to the charge controller, the cost on your part is a different charge controller, a SPDT switch, and a DC receptacle and possibly wire upgrade to handle the increased voltage. I'm going to put this idea into every Aptera video I can find until you put it into your vehicle. I want every person who sees these videos to watch for your response to such a common sense idea so we can all know what your team does when an obvious win is offered on a silver platter.
I like that shot of the work floor. It kinda looks like their animation where they showed what the final assembly floor would look like. I'm sure they're going to be working right up to the morning of the show. Hopefully they'll have the Gamma or PI2 or 3 to maybe give people some rides at some of the off site events. Looking forward to seeing what they have in store for us.
Seeing progress on the PI builds for CES is great however seeing what looks like PI-2 still in Carlsbad being updated is disappointing. PI-2 needs to be at the track getting initial tests completed. Track tests are not real world tests but they are a start and at this point ultra important for investors. Is the theory matching results in ideal test conditions? A great looking vehicle that doesn't meet expectations is like so many other vehicles. I truly hope the image of the PI builds under construction is from weeks ago.
@gr8dvd I test products for a living now and Aptera could have some complex track tests but not likely. Range tests under what would likely be ideal conditions have value as it is unlikely that the vehicle would do any better in the real world. Given the cost to rent a test track, it is not likely that they would spend more than a week there. The test results would definitely be qualified but initial tests results at this point are better than no test results. The computer model would include these tests and would be an easy comparison. Investors really should be looking at data and at this point there really hasn't been real data. I seriously hope that Aptera is not waiting to release test data until CES. With a daily burn rate that is likely to be close to $83k, they need some serious investors very quickly. Crowd funding only keeps the lights on & really doesn't do that for too long. They need $60M in short order to get production rolling and even that is likely short of what they really need. They are not going to get serious investment with theory. The test results need to have happened yesterday.
PI 4 is supposed to be the actual production-intent Aptera we all are waiting for, the LE Edition Aptera if you will. Yet, it doesn't have a solar roof. How come?
It's disappointing to see PI3 still in the shop instead of out on the track. They have three weeks to gather the necessary data on range and performance to impress people with hard data, not just promises. My guess is quite a few investors are waiting for that data before they sink millions into the company. GET TO THE TRACK AND GET THE DATA!!!
Getting economies of scale by getting production numbers up is going to be absolutely necessary to compete with Tesla or Hyundai Kia... Otherwise if the cost is too high sales will be very low which makes it even harder to keep the price reasonable just to recover all the development and sunk cost.
Aptera does not need to compete with any other vehicle manufacturer... it is completely unique in multiple ways and will sell itself once they trickle out on to the roads. There is a segment of the population that appreciates the efficiency and performance that is unique to Aptera. No other car company could possibly come close to the low break even point of Aptera at just 6,000 vehicles per year. Other companies selling many thousands of vehicles are in debt up to their eyeballs. If one of the big manufacturers decided to build a super efficient vehicle anywhere near the low manufacturing costs of Aptera, you might be on to something, but there are not, and you are not.
@GullWingInnMoclips The impact and benefit to society if they only sell very small numbers will be minuscule, I didn't say it but that is why I made my comment. Aptera costs are not low otherwise they would be able to have a lower selling price for a 2 seater vehicle. Aptera does have debt also although it is very low now but it is only for a low production capability.
@@GullWingInnMoclips - Break even point of 6K units per year? I'd love to see how they came up with that. I forgot, Blake said so from his Aptera office thus it's the truth. That skin cooling is working out well too. Same for the hub motors. All Aptera claims are true until they change their mind.
@@glike2 Their asset to debt ratio is very impressive, and societal impact should not be a large concern for enthusiasts, only sales people promoting the vehicle. Their costs are absolutely low when compared to any other vehicle manufacturer... and stunningly low for a long range carbon fiber EV.
Like most of you, I just received the latest Aptera solicitation... On this new investment round, reminder that St. Moritz, Marathon, UAE, and USCG all demonstrated that serious/qualified investors, upon reviewing the program, do not consider it viable. Isn't this a global vote of "no confidence" spanning years? It would be awesome if someone would interview Frank from USCG and he honestly disclosed why. Lacking that answer, you may just want to strongly consider this consistent lack of serious investment before you drop your hard-earned on this next round. Or maybe ask why you should pay 1,000X?/share what the founders paid, for no equity.
Wall Street has changed from a place where risk taking was what made progress, and a better life, to a casino based on complex algorithms, so three wheels is a huge change, and light weight with huge SUVs scares many people. But timing counts too, and 6 / 8 years ago, money was being thrown at these companies, and they were extremely over hyped. Aptera missed that time, and now the market is cold, with the one exception being Tesla. Aptera will find the money, but not until validation of the claims which they have made. EPA rating of MPGe, over 300 miles equivalent, decent crash testing, moose testing by independent third party, will make the money happen. CES is a great place to attract more eyeballs, and wallets will open once the claims Aptera has made prove to be real through validation. As to the current price per share, being a private company it is irrelevant. What the founders paid for start-up capital, is usually a very small fraction of what it will come public. Sweat equity is worth a great deal in a free enterprise economy. If you do not see the future as including Aptera, what difference does it make to you. My head says that when Aptera choose US Capital Group, that they should have gotten an older bigger firm, like a Goldman Sach, Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley. Limiting the opening investment by US Capital Group to $50,000 also was a problem for the smaller investor as they cannot take that kind of risk. My experience says it will happen, given time, your patience level needs to be greater.
@chrisbarrett2512 At the end of the day, Aptera has devalued their own opportunity. The 88” width decision killed EU and metro practicality. So it’s a cumbersome 3-wheeler. On development, mules dating back to Beta could/should have demonstrated the claims and refined the product. On pace, all of ‘23 was spent waiting for the BinC, negligible progress on the balance of the components/systems. Anthony was correct, 11/23, when he did “PI’s completed in the first few months of next year” as that was doable and should have been done. On promised price point, their USCG data, especially the $30K BOM, divulges that they are not remotely close with their design/process to offering the MSRP they’ve promised. Point blank: They have, by their own doing or lack thereof, openly demonstrated that they are not worthy of further investment. They don’t have a viable program on the table. No one should be even asked to put in another $100 mil. to watch them prove that they cannot viably deliver a $35K Aptera. This is known now to a skilled observer. But let’s watch it play out…
Thank you Steve, for the News that Aptera should be giving us. And 'hard at work"? really, just two people working on the 'make or break' SEV? Thats hard work in Calif.?? Or maybe its lunch time- I give room for an opposing viewpoint. And WHY is it ALWAYS clever photo work with ALL the Aptera photos? This writer made a living in the photo field; and I can spot staged, constructed and the like photos. EVERY image I have seen from Aptera is staged managed to the point that Pravda would be happy. This image of the three SEVs for example, is truly staged. One, the great, huge green post right over the 'nose' of the right vehicle. Why, is the question, the reason would be apparent- to HIDE something . I can see the handwriting on the wall of Aptera- "we are doomed, set up the deck chairs'.
Discord remains a multi-headed place of chaos. That's why there are so few "active users". True for each of the several Discord channels I have joined.
the removal of forums are not good. Forums are web searchable from the search engines, making it more beneficial to do a quick web search for relevant information. Where discord is not web searchable.
Nothing is preventing Aptera from "faking" a completed PI4. PI4 will most likely only function as a display and will only require enough functionality to get itself from the truck trailer to the booth and back at the end of the event. Remember how incomplete gamma was at the time of its unveiling and how many issues it had when used for test rides later.
They don't have that attitude, thank goodness ! They have already stated they will be scheduling media rides at the show, maybe after hours ? They have screwed up a few other opportunities with the media and can't afford more !
The Aptera on the left looks like it has the knock sensor in the left glowgo area. The right one appears to have the windscreen in place and both doors have windows! Not absolutely sure but the left one seems to also, from the bit I see on the right door. But the video screen behind the right one is intriguing. I think the double tab batteries have more redundancy than a single connection to the battery even with the metal extension [one point of welding]. This still could be about homologation? Bets on maker of the battery that will be in it? What if CATL was willing to sell their LMFP battery to them? But the way things are now I do not think China will allow it. So odds are, not any battery based in China will sell to them. They have already cut off buying any food [corn, soybeans, wheat plus coal or Nat gas] from the US and sold off 1/3rd of a billion in US bonds. Japan has sold more and France is also as they see Trumps tariffs as causing huge inflation in the US.
You have been constantly "bullshitting" on something that people are giving their all for, that the world needs. Money should not be an end in and of itself, but merely one of the means. You are greatly confused about what is "bullshit" and as a result, supplying a lot of it yourself.
@@n.brucenelson5920 I am offended and triggered. The issue for aptera is that Tesla is already profitable, builds safe, reliable, efficient vehicles so the capital markets aren't willing to risk it on aptera. Or maybe the big boy pockets are waiting on validated specifications and not theoretical best case scenario numbers, and theoretical safety. Who knows, but for sure money talks and bullshit walks.
Considering the time remaining to CES, I’d like to see a progress pic of PI.4 every day or every other day. The clean room parts have me wondering if the hatch panel is going to be built in it. Lots to look forward to!
There SHOULD be a photo update every day till the show. They have Chris there, it seems it would be his JOB to do this. So the absence of photos and real news SHOULD be a concern.
Thanks for the update Steve. So exciting. Much is happening now and with an attitude of, "We can do it!" It certainly is crunch time for Aptera and they deserve our full support. I have invested.
Appreciate you bringing these details from several sources together Steve. The clean room is an interesting note, and it's always good to see build progress.
See you at CES Let's go Aptera!
Congratulations Steve on the official endorsement. Thanks for all you do to keep us in the loop.
Thanks for the update! Love your videos.
I had forgotten about the Aptera Forum - there was a super active one back in the day (I was a moderator on that old forum); and I know they wanted to try and continue it. I am sorry to see it shut down. But, I have now joined the AOC Discord!
Did anyone watch the new destructive testing of 'Sakuu Batteries' being conducted at Munro Live? Amazing!!! they were conducting live fire testing on it to do the piercing test, and the damn thing still works without any hitch.
Imagine the efficiency Aptera can gain from weight reduction in the battery packs from those batteries. I am curious about the volumetric and gravimetric densities though.
Oh damn, the fact that they are linking to YOUR discord is kinda crazy. Good job.
What if it's to hide/delete the Searchable aspect of the prior forum?
@@artsmith103 I dont know if it will have that effect. But assuming it would, do u think they would do that on purpose? I can't think of why they would want that.
@@TheHubra I think it's exclusively for that reason. They are deleting an entire library of searchable input that documents years of failed deliveries. USCG was 4th or more professional investment attempt that completley failed. Aptera pulled a fast one implying USCG would be a quick 60-90 day $60M raise and crowdfunding would be locked out. Aptera crowdfunded a quick $5-6M before USCG began. Now Aptera needs to find 10s of $millions more donations.
One thing we don't know is who initiated hopeful Aptera/USCG relations? If it was USCG, they really scammed Aptera at their own game.
It is great to see the build progress leading up to CES. I'm sure that there is a lot of work in getting the functionality of all of the production intent parts. No doubt they will try and assemble the solar panel production room soon (now?) to build the cleanest and best looking solar panels for the PI model(S) going to CES. 3 weeks will happen in a flash. 🚗⚡
Mercedes Benz' has produced a Solar Paint. I wonder if this type of thing could be made into a wrap, and would be used to make the Aptera perfect.
Aptera was trying to keep costs down without paint. What if other cars intended to be painted can now benefit from solar with only a small additional cost?
Thanks Steve
I'd like to have the coffee and Redbull contract at Aptera.
Underappreciated comment.
That’s too legit
I'm betting that the wire / ribbon bonding are fusable links to prevent thermal runaway
I'd be more impressed if they drove one to CES.
I'm in the Discord! Haven't posted a lot in it though. Last time I posted was in 2023. Did a couple posts way back then about the Honda electric Motocompacto.
Also very happy that Aptera is now on BlueSky.
No problem. Happy you like it. Take care.
Getting energized again, going to take out my John Luc Picard uniform and sew the moth eaten parts. If people are going to stare at me I might as well look as Sci Fi as my Aptera.
Any idea is Aptera will allow a car to be made without solar panels? I don't need them on mine, and don't want them if possible.
Some time ago in the ordering info, Aptera listed it as $1,100 option.
@@artsmith103 I first tried to order one in 2007 when my daughter was just entering kindergarten. Today she is in medical school.
I'm hoping to drive it before she is a doctor or I'm too old and she takes the car keys away from me. But at this rate I'm skeptical.
@@alansnyder8448 I'm extremely skeptical. Enjoy your curiosity in the trike but definitely don't donate any money to them. 1 doctor in my family and a few engineers. Congratulations!
I hope that PI4 will have full solar on it.
Is it PI without full solar?
It would be really eye-catching, if they had the bandwidth, to show not only the show car PI4, but PI2 and PI3 in a presentable trim, and arrange them all in a formation. But, if they only manage PI4, I'm ok with that. Should they take Gamma along with PI4?
As I suggest on a TH-cam video with address ending /watch?v=warVVm5PUZo, you're already building a charging system into your vehicle so why not just put in an expansion port so we can park next to an array at our homes and plug in to accelerate the solar charging? It just seems like a logical thing to do if you want to add value and give people another great reason to buy your product. If it's as easy as plugging in a DC connector to a socket and having your car's solar array circuit run through my solar panel array on their way to the charge controller, the cost on your part is a different charge controller, a SPDT switch, and a DC receptacle and possibly wire upgrade to handle the increased voltage. I'm going to put this idea into every Aptera video I can find until you put it into your vehicle. I want every person who sees these videos to watch for your response to such a common sense idea so we can all know what your team does when an obvious win is offered on a silver platter.
I think 3 weeks should be plenty of time to do this. I hope my investment in Aptera is realized.
'Hope-ium' is a lost cause.
Counting holidays, travel, and setup, more like 2 weeks.
I like that shot of the work floor. It kinda looks like their animation where they showed what the final assembly floor would look like. I'm sure they're going to be working right up to the morning of the show. Hopefully they'll have the Gamma or PI2 or 3 to maybe give people some rides at some of the off site events. Looking forward to seeing what they have in store for us.
They're further along in the build at this point than I see for some SEMA vehicles with the same time left.
It's a pity that noone in the owners club will ever own one 😂
Seeing progress on the PI builds for CES is great however seeing what looks like PI-2 still in Carlsbad being updated is disappointing. PI-2 needs to be at the track getting initial tests completed. Track tests are not real world tests but they are a start and at this point ultra important for investors. Is the theory matching results in ideal test conditions? A great looking vehicle that doesn't meet expectations is like so many other vehicles. I truly hope the image of the PI builds under construction is from weeks ago.
Agree but some, basic validation of computer simulations (thinking for example solar gain/range) requires only days vs. weeks.
@gr8dvd I test products for a living now and Aptera could have some complex track tests but not likely. Range tests under what would likely be ideal conditions have value as it is unlikely that the vehicle would do any better in the real world. Given the cost to rent a test track, it is not likely that they would spend more than a week there. The test results would definitely be qualified but initial tests results at this point are better than no test results. The computer model would include these tests and would be an easy comparison. Investors really should be looking at data and at this point there really hasn't been real data. I seriously hope that Aptera is not waiting to release test data until CES. With a daily burn rate that is likely to be close to $83k, they need some serious investors very quickly. Crowd funding only keeps the lights on & really doesn't do that for too long. They need $60M in short order to get production rolling and even that is likely short of what they really need. They are not going to get serious investment with theory. The test results need to have happened yesterday.
@@ddessert6 Agree except tests SHOULD’VE happened yesterday but need to be done soon, preferably before CES.
How many people are employed at Aptera today?
2, according to the photo...
I have a potential investor to go to CES. How can I get them a ticket?
Send their check for validation.
Sitch is californian for situation?
I thought it was "stitch" as if they stitched together the panoramic photos 😂
Californian here - Mostly used by dads, but yes
Will Aptera have one with the glass on the back window? 😮
Long ago Aptera said customers could buy solar as roof/dash, or add hood, or add rear hatch. Who knows how it will end?
Putting it together with a short deadline would be a ton of fun IMO
You'd think they'd had ALL of these issues resolved by this point...
and be in production, not still messing about at a snail's pace. Lost interest last year, bet still not in production in 2025
PI 4 is supposed to be the actual production-intent Aptera we all are waiting for, the LE Edition Aptera if you will. Yet, it doesn't have a solar roof. How come?
My guess is that they haven't installed it yet.
The volume on your videos seems way too low. Some of us are old. I have to turn my volume up to at least 80. I don't need to do that on other videos.
Thanks for letting me know. I'll remedy that
Wow, 80 on your volume control! That is even better than going to 11.
It's disappointing to see PI3 still in the shop instead of out on the track. They have three weeks to gather the necessary data on range and performance to impress people with hard data, not just promises. My guess is quite a few investors are waiting for that data before they sink millions into the company. GET TO THE TRACK AND GET THE DATA!!!
You mean PI2. They can't make any relevant testing until the finish installing the solar panels. The aerodynamics won't be complete until then.
@@richardryley3660 All testing is relevant. That's why none is done.
Trucking it TO CES makes sense as they want it to be pristine, but imagine the news coverage if they drove it there using Tesla Superchargers on I-15!
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I'm one of those "lurkers" 😉.
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Getting economies of scale by getting production numbers up is going to be absolutely necessary to compete with Tesla or Hyundai Kia... Otherwise if the cost is too high sales will be very low which makes it even harder to keep the price reasonable just to recover all the development and sunk cost.
Aptera does not need to compete with any other vehicle manufacturer... it is completely unique in multiple ways and will sell itself once they trickle out on to the roads. There is a segment of the population that appreciates the efficiency and performance that is unique to Aptera. No other car company could possibly come close to the low break even point of Aptera at just 6,000 vehicles per year. Other companies selling many thousands of vehicles are in debt up to their eyeballs. If one of the big manufacturers decided to build a super efficient vehicle anywhere near the low manufacturing costs of Aptera, you might be on to something, but there are not, and you are not.
@GullWingInnMoclips The impact and benefit to society if they only sell very small numbers will be minuscule, I didn't say it but that is why I made my comment. Aptera costs are not low otherwise they would be able to have a lower selling price for a 2 seater vehicle. Aptera does have debt also although it is very low now but it is only for a low production capability.
@@GullWingInnMoclips - Break even point of 6K units per year? I'd love to see how they came up with that. I forgot, Blake said so from his Aptera office thus it's the truth.
That skin cooling is working out well too. Same for the hub motors. All Aptera claims are true until they change their mind.
@@billsmith5960 And yet here you are.. a fascinating case study in doom trolling.
@@glike2 Their asset to debt ratio is very impressive, and societal impact should not be a large concern for enthusiasts, only sales people promoting the vehicle. Their costs are absolutely low when compared to any other vehicle manufacturer... and stunningly low for a long range carbon fiber EV.
Can you do a video on Geo ship? I think you'll find what they are building cool, and it serves a similar ethos to Aptera.
I think they should wrap it while still in parts.
Like most of you, I just received the latest Aptera solicitation...
On this new investment round, reminder that St. Moritz, Marathon, UAE, and USCG all demonstrated that serious/qualified investors, upon reviewing the program, do not consider it viable. Isn't this a global vote of "no confidence" spanning years?
It would be awesome if someone would interview Frank from USCG and he honestly disclosed why.
Lacking that answer, you may just want to strongly consider this consistent lack of serious investment before you drop your hard-earned on this next round.
Or maybe ask why you should pay 1,000X?/share what the founders paid, for no equity.
Wall Street has changed from a place where risk taking was what made progress, and a better life, to a casino based on complex algorithms, so three wheels is a huge change, and light weight with huge SUVs scares many people. But timing counts too, and 6 / 8 years ago, money was being thrown at these companies, and they were extremely over hyped. Aptera missed that time, and now the market is cold, with the one exception being Tesla. Aptera will find the money, but not until validation of the claims which they have made. EPA rating of MPGe, over 300 miles equivalent, decent crash testing, moose testing by independent third party, will make the money happen. CES is a great place to attract more eyeballs, and wallets will open once the claims Aptera has made prove to be real through validation.
As to the current price per share, being a private company it is irrelevant. What the founders paid for start-up capital, is usually a very small fraction of what it will come public. Sweat equity is worth a great deal in a free enterprise economy. If you do not see the future as including Aptera, what difference does it make to you.
My head says that when Aptera choose US Capital Group, that they should have gotten an older bigger firm, like a Goldman Sach, Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley. Limiting the opening investment by US Capital Group to $50,000 also was a problem for the smaller investor as they cannot take that kind of risk. My experience says it will happen, given time, your patience level needs to be greater.
@chrisbarrett2512 At the end of the day, Aptera has devalued their own opportunity. The 88” width decision killed EU and metro practicality. So it’s a cumbersome 3-wheeler. On development, mules dating back to Beta could/should have demonstrated the claims and refined the product. On pace, all of ‘23 was spent waiting for the BinC, negligible progress on the balance of the components/systems. Anthony was correct, 11/23, when he did “PI’s completed in the first few months of next year” as that was doable and should have been done. On promised price point, their USCG data, especially the $30K BOM, divulges that they are not remotely close with their design/process to offering the MSRP they’ve promised.
Point blank: They have, by their own doing or lack thereof, openly demonstrated that they are not worthy of further investment. They don’t have a viable program on the table.
No one should be even asked to put in another $100 mil. to watch them prove that they cannot viably deliver a $35K Aptera.
This is known now to a skilled observer.
But let’s watch it play out…
is reality beginning to dawn, that this might all might just be a con job? Cars should be on the road by now, not still in prototype.
@@farmerpete6274 seems like a combination of indifference and incompetence to me.
Hi Steve, is this the return of the hub motor? th-cam.com/video/NJK40NzBhmY/w-d-xo.html
Yeah, I don't DO discord.
Thank you Steve, for the News that Aptera should be giving us. And 'hard at work"? really, just two people working on the 'make or break' SEV? Thats hard work in Calif.?? Or maybe its lunch time- I give room for an opposing viewpoint. And WHY is it ALWAYS clever photo work with ALL the Aptera photos? This writer made a living in the photo field; and I can spot staged, constructed and the like photos. EVERY image I have seen from Aptera is staged managed to the point that Pravda would be happy. This image of the three SEVs for example, is truly staged. One, the great, huge green post right over the 'nose' of the right vehicle. Why, is the question, the reason would be apparent- to HIDE something . I can see the handwriting on the wall of Aptera- "we are doomed, set up the deck chairs'.
Expertise in different areas comes from all directions. Thanks for your post.
I totally agree. Not invested.
Discord remains a multi-headed place of chaos. That's why there are so few "active users". True for each of the several Discord channels I have joined.
the removal of forums are not good. Forums are web searchable from the search engines, making it more beneficial to do a quick web search for relevant information. Where discord is not web searchable.
Aptera calls that a feature....just before CES introduction :-(
It is an interesting decision that they nade.
Nothing is preventing Aptera from "faking" a completed PI4. PI4 will most likely only function as a display and will only require enough functionality to get itself from the truck trailer to the booth and back at the end of the event. Remember how incomplete gamma was at the time of its unveiling and how many issues it had when used for test rides later.
They don't have that attitude, thank goodness ! They have already stated they will be scheduling media rides at the show, maybe after hours ? They have screwed up a few other opportunities with the media and can't afford more !
The Aptera on the left looks like it has the knock sensor in the left glowgo area. The right one appears to have the windscreen in place and both doors have windows! Not absolutely sure but the left one seems to also, from the bit I see on the right door. But the video screen behind the right one is intriguing. I think the double tab batteries have more redundancy than a single connection to the battery even with the metal extension [one point of welding]. This still could be about homologation? Bets on maker of the battery that will be in it? What if CATL was willing to sell their LMFP battery to them? But the way things are now I do not think China will allow it. So odds are, not any battery based in China will sell to them. They have already cut off buying any food [corn, soybeans, wheat plus coal or Nat gas] from the US and sold off 1/3rd of a billion in US bonds. Japan has sold more and France is also as they see Trumps tariffs as causing huge inflation in the US.
Money Talks, Bullshit Walks
You have been constantly "bullshitting" on something that people are giving their all for, that the world needs. Money should not be an end in and of itself, but merely one of the means. You are greatly confused about what is "bullshit" and as a result, supplying a lot of it yourself.
@@n.brucenelson5920 I am offended and triggered. The issue for aptera is that Tesla is already profitable, builds safe, reliable, efficient vehicles so the capital markets aren't willing to risk it on aptera. Or maybe the big boy pockets are waiting on validated specifications and not theoretical best case scenario numbers, and theoretical safety. Who knows, but for sure money talks and bullshit walks.
@@n.brucenelson5920 I would love for you to provide the examples of "bullshit" I allegedly spew that you claim.
@@n.brucenelson5920 Hey Bruce, hope you're well.