Devante Swing and The Swing Mob (aka Da Bassment) | The Sad Ending

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  • Devante Swing pioneered the Swing Mob, also known as Da Bassment. He is the brains behind Jodeci. He is a writer and producer who once traveled to Minnesota to audition for Prince. He didn’t get to meet him but when he got home he formed the group Jodeci with his brother Dalvin, K-CI and Jojo. Then he formed The Swing Mob aka Da Bassment.
    The Swing Mob grew while Jodeci’s debut single Forever My Lady was a huge success. The group became one of the most iconic groups in R&B. While producing Jodeci’s legendary albums, he began to work with other artists too. He not only produced for established artists, he wanted to find and raise up new talent.
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ความคิดเห็น • 445

  • @sweeetzz
    @sweeetzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +321

    I hope Devante know how much of a inspiration he is to people. Come back soon Devante you are truly missed!!!

    • @TiffanyMarieMorris
      @TiffanyMarieMorris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      OMG YESS!!! I always say this. He’s a musical genius

    • @makemsaydee25
      @makemsaydee25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      He use to slap everybody randomly

    • @scuppo
      @scuppo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Piannocrazy genuine was his victim

    • @wealthylifestyle719
      @wealthylifestyle719 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😆

    • @TianaLove
      @TianaLove 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Piannocrazy what do they mean? Lol

  • @Mr.Memphis10
    @Mr.Memphis10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +306

    Devante Swing don't get the credit he deserves! Shout out to Devante Swing

    • @rhondahall0184
      @rhondahall0184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Riiight!

    • @austincooks7823
      @austincooks7823 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rhondahall0184 .

    • @austincooks7823
      @austincooks7823 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rhondahall0184 .

    • @austincooks7823
      @austincooks7823 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rhondahall0184 .

    • @southeastd.c5636
      @southeastd.c5636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He never will,I think the industry and certain producers form an alliance against certain producers who's a threat.Devante and Jodeci owned the 90s when it came to R&B.

  • @wzupdet
    @wzupdet ปีที่แล้ว +61

    It’s crazy how Devante built Jodeci and then Static Major built Pretty Ricky.. both game changers.

    • @HoodPsychoP3dia
      @HoodPsychoP3dia ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Keep naming

    • @HoodPsychoP3dia
      @HoodPsychoP3dia ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Static made pony bby girl I learned that and was shocked bc Ginuwine told us this on drink champs no biggie i thought timbo made it too but 👎

    • @diamondjack-cooper5322
      @diamondjack-cooper5322 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @siloamking2486
    @siloamking2486 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Devante is one of the greatest producers in modern history

  • @Shhhmusicxo
    @Shhhmusicxo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +279

    Hurt people, hurt people. Devante, needed the right support around him to balance out his workload. He took on a lot of responsibility for jodeci and his basement crew at a very young age. On top of that he did have a big ego & was arrogant. He is still a great producer but he needed guidance and therapy....

    • @RenieNostalgic
      @RenieNostalgic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Very true!

    • @Shhhmusicxo
      @Shhhmusicxo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @prodby. jay he also has 2 kids at a very young age before Jodeci left to go to New York. Must genius are a lil unbalanced and have high expectations. However I can’t imagine carry all this wait on my shoulders in my early 20’s. I think the title Dairy of a mad band..Has more to do with him, more so of self referencing himself...

    • @MrLionelg33
      @MrLionelg33 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's because DeVante Swing is a punk that's why for beating, hitting, smacking and abusing missy elliott, sista, timbaland, ginuwine, and da whole basement group I bet y'all he wouldn't do that to suge knight or 50 cent either fucking coward.

    • @harvardbilly3739
      @harvardbilly3739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@MrLionelg33 pls. you just saying stupid shit now.

    • @KeKeLuvsNIGERIA
      @KeKeLuvsNIGERIA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yup...it's called the Life of a CREATIVE Genius...it ain't easy but somebody gotta do it-2Pac💯

  • @jayburnell128
    @jayburnell128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +211

    Rest in peace to Static Major.

    • @iamcasihart
      @iamcasihart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Kentucky represent! 🙌💙

  • @jasondawson92
    @jasondawson92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +217

    Davante was like the second up to prince he knows how to play any instrument dude was gangsta and knew how to sing and write Davante Swing was badass and knew who had talent

    • @susansusan138
      @susansusan138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I believe it.

    • @acduck2813
      @acduck2813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Stop using the term gangster as if it's a good think. These ppl are the ticks sucking on the life blood of the ppl. Fuck all "gangsters" repent or death. Fuck em

    • @soothingrainsounds5929
      @soothingrainsounds5929 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I’ve heard him sing but not like sing sing if that makes sense .

    • @cierrajjohnson
      @cierrajjohnson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@acduck2813 lol stfu

    • @lisaz1499
      @lisaz1499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@acduck2813 shut up lol

  • @wiltisdabest
    @wiltisdabest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    If Devante just kept his shit together, he could have been waaaay bigger and got the credit he deserves. Love Devante swing.

  • @veronicasmith3987
    @veronicasmith3987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I met Devante once in an LA studio many years ago. My son spent a week there recording music with him. He was very cool, very nice guy. I wish him the best.

    • @RenieNostalgic
      @RenieNostalgic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Wow! Thanks for sharing. That’s awesome. ❤️

    • @deonnadyson
      @deonnadyson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Man yall are so lucky... I really want to meet him... lol

  • @kimberlyjordan9023
    @kimberlyjordan9023 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    DeVante will always be the G.O.A.T
    He paved the way for a lot of artists and he really hasn't gotten credit that deserves

  • @jayhunt81
    @jayhunt81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    My favorite all time group & producer Jodeci & Devante Swing! We need that biopic ASAP!! Dude has always been underrated

  • @KeKeLuvsNIGERIA
    @KeKeLuvsNIGERIA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    This man has had a greater impact on African American culture than we can imagine 💯Simply consider the music, the artists , and all the African American Boys named after him...I LOVE telling little black boys how great their name sake is...and they just SMILE..May the Most High God Bless you wherever you are❤💋

    • @NatHenrickClarke
      @NatHenrickClarke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Have a nephew named after him

    • @KeKeLuvsNIGERIA
      @KeKeLuvsNIGERIA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@NatHenrickClarke See...I know...it's soooooo many little African American boys named after him...and when I play the video in class of DeVante playing the piano when he is dressed in red at a live concert ...They walk around with their chest puffed up all day looking like little roosters 🐓I love DeVante for that ❤

    • @KeKeLuvsNIGERIA
      @KeKeLuvsNIGERIA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NatHenrickClarke just noticed you said had...I hope he is okay 🙏

    • @NatHenrickClarke
      @NatHenrickClarke 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KeKeLuvsNIGERIA yes I meant have

    • @KeKeLuvsNIGERIA
      @KeKeLuvsNIGERIA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NatHenrickClarke okay GOOD 👍

  • @SoundBiteInc-
    @SoundBiteInc- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +213

    static major. The pen behind some of Aaliyah’s biggest hits

    • @christophercondoll5471
      @christophercondoll5471 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Man Static was so underrated that ot hurts

    • @iknowyouseeme2642
      @iknowyouseeme2642 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Aaliyah had a crush on Devante when she was little if I am correct.?

    • @gmafia4049
      @gmafia4049 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Also Lil Wayne Lilipop

    • @MrEOM41
      @MrEOM41 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yessir he was so talented

    • @atlsongbyrd6084
      @atlsongbyrd6084 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      R.I.P. to him

  • @miamiles7996
    @miamiles7996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I was so in love with Devante Swing had all his posters

  • @richfranklin9270
    @richfranklin9270 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Devante is very underrated for his work

    • @flex5752
      @flex5752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Never

  • @msve3730
    @msve3730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Sometimes being in the leadership position is everything but fun, its stressful, its draining, and its taxing. Hearing this man would stay in the studio for weeks at a time and not tour, is to show you how serious he took his work. Im honestly thankful that this man didn't lose his life from that robbery gone bad. That was God's grace. Im so glad we don't have to put that in this video. Give this man his Hall of fame and Grammys and Star on the boulevard while he's here.

  • @locs_bjuicy6397
    @locs_bjuicy6397 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    DeVante is/was a genius! 4ever a fan of JODeci!🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @popealex
    @popealex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    I have nothing to say about the man’s personal life but to me he’s the greatest rnb producer of all time - it would be great if he would do an album full of songs like the jazz version of im still waiting or whatever other amazing shh he has in his vault. Big ups on the video, was nicely put together

  • @cshell2001
    @cshell2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I admire his drive to acquire and nurture talent. That's a wonderful gift to be able to unlock potential. Not everyone would make it big but definitely some gratitude sounds fitting. Exceptional people are usually exceptionally difficult in some way unfortunately. My favourite songs were produced by Devante and I didn't even know it then. A true legend. 👍

  • @Multifacted_Brotha
    @Multifacted_Brotha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Devante is so underrated!! He could have been much bigger than he was!!

  • @cynthiapetty520
    @cynthiapetty520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    De'Vante. should be very proud of what he brought together some of the greatest talent in the game of music, as a father to music teach your talent to how you want them to grow then let them go out into the world, this is what every good parent does with thier children teach them at home to prepare them for the world, and let them go but always know in your heart you did a great good, he did a great job with the talent he brought together to him at the time he felt betrayed, but they needed more than he could give them at the time, so they made thier way never forgetting what he did for each one of them, I hope he comes back soon the world needs more great men like De'Vante .

  • @elijahjackson9694
    @elijahjackson9694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    I think it's because he was beat up and robbed in his own home and that it traumatized him

    • @RenieNostalgic
      @RenieNostalgic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Yes for sure. Post traumatic stress disorder is likely to have played a part.

    • @sammorgan169
      @sammorgan169 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They were saying suge knight had something to do with that. It happen on his birthday When they rob him

    • @johnsonzz-jw3oz
      @johnsonzz-jw3oz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@RenieNostalgic Yes, I have said this for awhile. He had/has alot of symptoms that people show with PTSD. I hope he is doing better and has a good support system. I miss his music and hope he and Jodeci come back. I follow Mr. Dalvin on Instgram and he "teases" that there is a Jodeci movie coming soon.

    • @DoveVzn
      @DoveVzn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@johnsonzz-jw3oz dalvin been teasing a movie since they stopped making music publicly. However, one day it will indeed come.

    • @cyyrious
      @cyyrious 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DoveVzn they just had an album out about a year ago I bought it and they are actually still making music but a movie would be great

  • @andyhastings4020
    @andyhastings4020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This dude might be the most influential individual in TODAY'S music if you talking about the actual sound and evolution..He just happened to be hard to work with or to even get a long with..He will become more popular cause kids haven't really started to sample 90s music heavily yet..

  • @TianaLove
    @TianaLove 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    9:04 that picture of Devante gets me every time 😍

    • @KBBarbie09
      @KBBarbie09 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes lawd ❤

  • @millardthomas9059
    @millardthomas9059 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Its gonna sound silly but its countless kids named after him. Every Devante you know was born after 1991. Thats really cultural impact.

  • @joshuaspikes7159
    @joshuaspikes7159 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    DeVanté Is The Goat. I might name my son after him in the future

    • @KeKeLuvsNIGERIA
      @KeKeLuvsNIGERIA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Alot of people do!! I love telling little 5th grade African American boys about their name sake DeVante Swing!! After I tell them look so proud...they just SMILE 😶

    • @dontdoda1thang564
      @dontdoda1thang564 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nah name him after yourself homie ✌🏿

    • @cyyrious
      @cyyrious 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only if you have Swing as his middle name 😂🤣😂

    • @joshuaspikes7159
      @joshuaspikes7159 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cyyrious 😂😂😂😂

    • @joshuaspikes7159
      @joshuaspikes7159 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cyyrious btw u beautiful😍

  • @thevisualizer8245
    @thevisualizer8245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I understand it from both ends. I also feel like since Devanté was very young himself, it may have been a challenge for him to do what he had to do for all those young people under him. I think he didn’t have much guidance which is most likely why he turned to Suge. It was probably some sort of relief for him when Suge came in. But it seemed like it was almost a “right message, wrong person” type of thing in my opinion. Although Suge handled his artists very poorly, he knew the business. So Devanté probably looked at him as someone to kind of look up to, which was a big mistake. Right idea, but wrong person. He may have ended up using Suge’s influence on the members, thinking that it was going to change the dynamic of things.
    It would be nice to see Devanté try this whole thing over again with younger talent/people who wanna learn from him now that he’s older and wiser, and has most likely learned from everything that has happened. We definitely need it. I’ve heard in interviews they had some great ideas back in the day. In Big Shann’s interview he says that Devanté was planning on getting swing mob involved in film production. Would’ve been really cool to see them in movies! I’d really like to see him give everything a second shot.
    Thanks for this great video!❤️

  • @Ty-wy9he
    @Ty-wy9he 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Devante put the mad in genius. You can’t treat people like that and expect them to stay. Rightfully so, his mentees surpassed him.

    • @C-Lyfe85
      @C-Lyfe85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      All I know is DeVante swing put these guys up, gave them food water and shelter, let them use expensive recording studios for free.
      Then they go behind his back and sign record deals? I would have been smacking & pistol whipping everybody too.
      That trademark Timberland sound that went on to be on Aaliyah's one in a million album, was developed in da basement.
      It was known as "da basement" sound, and to hear it all over the radio being misused, had to hurt DeVante a little.
      I see both sides.

  • @tie3032
    @tie3032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    My favorite member from the group Devante ❤️

  • @savajecaylala8784
    @savajecaylala8784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I think it may be coming back for a short period of time. Swing is currently working with a few of them right now to do an EP. Sugah, He may do something with Sisqo new group with black and smoke, he has some new artists to make an appearance , I’m hearing he may work with Ginuwine etc. DeVante is definitely needed back in the industry and I hope that rnb sound comes back. I wonder if he can help get some unreleased tracks from Static debut album too.
    Here’s the thing, ppl have to look at it from his POV. He had those artist before he got robbed and had all that pressure on him to make things happen for Jodeci and other since he was a teenager. He was too gifted to not be discovered. After the robbery everything changed. He was more guarded and did not heal completely. So the slightest feeling of a set up is gonna tick him off. That’s PTSD. Too much for anyone to handle when you’ve been very close to death. He had the wrong ppl around him. You live and you learn. I’m glad he cut suge off. It could’ve ended differently and horribly. For those artists to still rock with him after what happened and give him that credit , shows how great he was. Most of them still talk to him to this day. You can’t take away the man’s influence on rnb. You can’t even mention rnb without mentioning his group. His whole style is unmatched to this day. He definitely deserves that credit. Alot of producers took that from him. I’m glad he never gave up and decided it’s time to come back. I’m ready for it. I learned a lot from him and even learned how to play piano just by listening to him. I would mimic his method. He needs and deserves to come back and do what he does best. 🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @RenieNostalgic
      @RenieNostalgic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow!!! That would be amazing. 😃😃

    • @RenieNostalgic
      @RenieNostalgic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes without his influence where would R&B and Swing be?

    • @natariaclarkson6120
      @natariaclarkson6120 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Where did you hear all of this from?????

    • @savajecaylala8784
      @savajecaylala8784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@natariaclarkson6120 hear what? The EP. Sugah is the one that confirmed it. They already discussed it with DeVante and Tweet confirmed it. It’s her group anyway. He’s still working in the industry he just works mostly with local artists. He doesn’t have social media but he has fanpages that his daughter shows him or close friends and he interacts with them that way. People wanted an ep from da bassment but currently it’s just sugah and DeVante. His demos are on TH-cam with them so his fans wanted full versions.

    • @natariaclarkson6120
      @natariaclarkson6120 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@savajecaylala8784 yes I only knew about him working with sugah and I know he doesn’t have any social media I follow both of his kids

  • @charlestyner8631
    @charlestyner8631 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    As long as he doesn't bring back his struggle tail, Devante is a helluva producer and needs to bring R&B back.

  • @crazyjsavedbygrace6089
    @crazyjsavedbygrace6089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I remember always running into Devante and his Brother in Cali. I was always trying to get them to go to Church with my crew. I used to talk with them on the phone for a minute. They had said they started in church. When they Linked with Death Row they distanced them selves from speaking with me. I pray they will have the opportunity to grasp on to GOD once again.
    If you read this my man im that bald young gangster looking Mexican from Da S.S.M.O.B.

    • @a.christian9647
      @a.christian9647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think K Ci is singing for the Lord now.

    • @flex5752
      @flex5752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@a.christian9647 huh they always been into GOD

  • @KBBarbie09
    @KBBarbie09 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I dont think he realize the depth of his reach. He was a genius. He help nurture Missy, Timberland & Static… 3 of THE GREATEST PRODUCERS IN THE WORLD. Now thats a Goat. He needs his flowers. Ginuwine - Tank was a back up singer for him. - Luke James was a background for Tank… shit is crazyyyyyyy

    • @ParentalDiscretionIsAdvised
      @ParentalDiscretionIsAdvised 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He NEVER reached the peak of his powers! He created Swing Mob and all that came with it and not to mention being in a performing act around 21-22. Thats A LOT of work for anyone at that age and held it down until it was no more
      usually most dont reach said peak until their 30s...the fame stopped him from getting there! Nonetheless Devante doesnt get and yet DESERVES his flowers and acknowledgement!

  • @anakin.2956
    @anakin.2956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Wooooow!! And u thought I knew all bout Devante's history! Another great vid, Queen. Jodeci and Devante, I believe, don't get the credit that they deserve. Mos def paved the way for R&B groups after them. He truly was/is a musical genius. Could you imagine if the Basement stayed together had Devante not acted up. I understand why everyone jumped ship but at least they all became successful. Have you noticed that the music geniuses were a lil, well I don't wanna say strange, but look at Michael Jackson, Kanye, even (I'm sorry to say) R. Kelly. There has to be a biopic on this tho!!

  • @shanb.9690
    @shanb.9690 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Yeah Devante WAS REALLY THE BLUE PRINT HE REALLY WAS SO COOL AND DOPE A MUSICAL GENIUS

  • @toricy8833
    @toricy8833 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Lord boy the good ones always get beat down by these industry people smh Devonte have always been the best and this generation will never know smh something certainly happened to him but with the way how this industry is set up we will never know his hard work will never ne praised or recongnized by many.

  • @roz.b.7512
    @roz.b.7512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Big ups to Timbaland for being a real one for giving credit where credit is due 👍👍

    • @Mone333Williams
      @Mone333Williams ปีที่แล้ว

      Timberland is DEVANTE son real talk. Everything tim know is becuz he was DEVANTE student.

  • @mohill1003
    @mohill1003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    HE FLOATED THE WHOLE R & B INDUSTRY AT THAT TIME, SO MANY ARTISTS AND RECORD LABELS JUMP ON HIS WAVE AND HAD SUCCESS! AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE POLITICS OF THE MUSIC BUSINESS ALWAYS CAN GET TO THEM!

  • @natalyahaynes4629
    @natalyahaynes4629 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This was great Devante swing will forever be a musical genius love his work & everything he’s done

  • @juliagulia5823
    @juliagulia5823 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Mr. Dalvin was always my favorite.❤

  • @brittneybutler2491
    @brittneybutler2491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I have always loved DeVante's writing and production musicality and always will!💖💯
    #Thanks@Renie Nostalgic!!👍💕😘💋🙌

    • @RenieNostalgic
      @RenieNostalgic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks for watching💕 Yes he is certainly a rare talent.

    • @brittneybutler2491
      @brittneybutler2491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@RenieNostalgic U r welcome, thank you and indeed he (DeVante) truly is!💯💯

  • @ParentalDiscretionIsAdvised
    @ParentalDiscretionIsAdvised 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This woman's voice, accent and diction is IMPECCABLE!

  • @t.h.acrofilmcinema
    @t.h.acrofilmcinema 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Timbaland got love for Devante and gave him his props and flowers. All good. And Devante said Timbaland is family in an interview about the new Jodeci album that came out in 2015.

  • @iamcasihart
    @iamcasihart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thank you for creating this. This world is positively starved for what DeVante has and can produce! He is brilliant, and I do not use that word loosely. His songwriting, producing, and overall essence are one huge part of the soundtrack to my life.
    This video is informative and so appreciated!
    ♥️

  • @MauriceDevonte
    @MauriceDevonte 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    When my friends yell out DeVante sing when they see me 😒

    • @drayshawnc10
      @drayshawnc10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      😂😂😂😂ky friends mom says “Marcus darling” everytime she start talking to me😒

    • @a.christian9647
      @a.christian9647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@drayshawnc10 lol

  • @angelgregory9445
    @angelgregory9445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I was up late one night going down the TH-cam rabbit hole and I found your channel, watched a few vids and am now a subscriber. I grew up listening to all the artists you cover and to find out all this new information is fascinating. I love your channel.

    • @RenieNostalgic
      @RenieNostalgic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for subscribing💕 Much appreciated!

  • @mohill1003
    @mohill1003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    A GUY LIKE davante JUST wants his tributes at the end of the day! He was the person that some of these successful artists WAS coordinated in the universe to Meet!

  • @gmafia4049
    @gmafia4049 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    OMG I couldn't believe that Sugah was still in the mix of Da Basement Crew like they didn't witness the success of Missy timberland Ginuwine and playa (Static Major) to follow their steps WOW. But I do remember Missy's First Episode of Mtv Cribs she introduced viewers to Tweet and she was playing the Guitar

  • @shohdtv
    @shohdtv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    DeVante f’d up. Once he realized it, it was too late. He had always been in control, until he connected w/ Suge. He thought Suge was gonna get him outta his contract w/ Andre Harrel @ Uptown/MCA. He wanted total control. He wanted complete power. Wat he DIDNT kno was, Suge’s ways. And that who DeVante wanted to b, Suge already was in real life! N just a much more shrewd and evil version of that. He didn’t kno he literally handed Suge an opportunity to take over not just Jodeci’s management contracts, but Mary J. Blige’s and others that were on Uptown. Death Row did an ad campaign which was a two page list of their artists on the label on one side, and artists they managed on the other. Jodeci/MJB we’re definitely on that list. The robbery/kidnapping was public info back then. The other things rumored to b goin on was the presence of Suge’s associates who were known to b guys from jail that Suge had around for disciplinary purposes. Some said to b violent in action and even as far as sexually related forms of discipline as well. Not just Devante, but KCi/JoJo were said to b changing as well. Devante’s appearance even changed as it became a more feminine edge to it. K&JJ were seen constantly drinkn & smoking to an extent that people would b disappointed to c them in person off stage. U never heard much about Dalvin other than it was said to b his bday when the robbery happened. But never really any bad reports. They said DeVante would return to his “basement” crew and act more n more “Suge-like”. It was said he smacked either Stevie J or Tim right in front of everyone. But wat was consistent in the stories told was how once Suge came into the picture...DeVante couldn’t shake him. As if he was a prisoner of some sort. Industry insiders said DeVante was violated, and was gonna try n get away, n then the robbery happened. He wasn’t supposed to make it out of that situation. If u look at the timeline, it’s almost like he just disappeared off the scene completely. KC/JJ eventually went solo, n fell victim to their poor choices. With the control Suge had in the industry I think DeVante felt helpless but more so just knew he made some decisions that costd him everything he had worked for/towards his entire life. The change was too abrupt & sudden to just think DeVante’s demise was from “drug use”. If drugs played a part, it was definitely AFTER the decisions had been made that shifted his life into a downward spiral. Probably thee saddest story in the industry to date. Literally the next Prince. Robbed on so many levels of his creations. Truly b4 his time & actually a living legend at the exact same time. And everyone else got to take the credit for wat truly was...HIS. Damn...

    • @DoveVzn
      @DoveVzn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You’re giving suge way too much credit right now. Devante doesn’t have any bad blood with suge. It’s deeper than suge

    • @nyckim2949
      @nyckim2949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wait... Violated like how?? 👀

    • @taureanmay7480
      @taureanmay7480 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wow.

    • @jessebacon817
      @jessebacon817 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DoveVznyou must be a millennial.

    • @DoveVzn
      @DoveVzn หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jessebacon817 no.

  • @justyb4963
    @justyb4963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Brilliant exposé, absolutely brilliant! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾✊🏾

  • @mrmalveaux5335
    @mrmalveaux5335 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wow I didn’t know he laser or that he had a powerful position in the music industry wow! I have a whole new Level of respect for him.

  • @baberzafar5802
    @baberzafar5802 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I think he had immense pressure on his shoulders.
    Yes I think after hooking up with Suge he felt he needed to be more tougher and harder on the artists as is the way in the industry and especially in that mid 90s period that death row was demonstrating. I also think drugs and alcohol affected him during the end of that bassment era and the betrayal he must have felt fueled that need to make those bad choices.. Cut throat industry. When you have all that talent vultures gonna be hanging around wanting a piece.

  • @kdbyers
    @kdbyers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    They could make a movie off this info alone. It would be a very sad ending though. I think De just dragged his feet too long with the crew and they just felt that moving on to record deals with so much more to offer and getting them on the radio I'm sure was very tempting. That's what they all were reaching for.

  • @Aariyan096
    @Aariyan096 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Okay, thank you for another video 👏🏽👏🏽. Since this is a longer one, I gotta sit and watch this one 😃😃💕.

    • @RenieNostalgic
      @RenieNostalgic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching. I know it’s a long one. 😄
      I appreciate it.

  • @markteakle2046
    @markteakle2046 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very good video. personally I think the robbery was the main reason for the change in Devante. Yeah Suge could have had a negative effect but the robbery and people leaving him and his own issues had more effect on him.

  • @shawnspruill5212
    @shawnspruill5212 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Can we woman all agree that davonte was the finest man around??? A little violent but fine as hell!!!

  • @roz.b.7512
    @roz.b.7512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Facts 💯 FACTS. The best artist usually don't get the credit they DESERVES!!!

  • @asiaboo87
    @asiaboo87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love it!! Feel bad for him actually, he is GOAT, love his talent, thanks.

  • @erickiam25
    @erickiam25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    He was wrong for treating his groups like that, he didn’t feed them

  • @johnsonzz-jw3oz
    @johnsonzz-jw3oz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Loved your video! You did a great job with facts and not just including hearsay. I thought of only two things that were left out or time wise incorrect. The robbery actually happened when they were recording the second album. Mr. Dalvin talked about it in an interview I saw on TH-cam. It was his birthday and the group was recording the single "Alone", which is featured on "Diary of a Mad Band." Also, I briefly read through some of Timberland's book a few years ago, and he said that he was going to get some food for DeVante one night, and he took the DeVante's girlfriend with him for the ride, and they ended up in a car crash. He was hurt, but she was killed..I'm thinking that may have also contributed to DeVante's mental state of mind during that time and perhaps a part to his changing behavior towards the people around him, including Timberland. Once again great informative video.

    • @RenieNostalgic
      @RenieNostalgic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks you for that great info. That’s so sad.

    • @ariannalewis7155
      @ariannalewis7155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      who was his gf?

    • @johnsonzz-jw3oz
      @johnsonzz-jw3oz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ariannalewis7155 I don't know they never Timberland never her name he just said girlfriend in the book.

    • @taureanmay7480
      @taureanmay7480 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RenieNostalgic wow.

    • @Takingabeating
      @Takingabeating ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh no!

  • @dboyd9634
    @dboyd9634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Definitely one of the greatest.

  • @allenprice1570
    @allenprice1570 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would love for Devante to meet my youngest son. He can play everything like Devante.

  • @Cronellishways
    @Cronellishways 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Much love to Devante, one of the greatest R&B producers of all times l.

  • @mohill1003
    @mohill1003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    SOOOO UNDERRATED AND UNDER APPRECIATED IS DEVANTE! HE NEEDED A GUY LIKE THE RZA DID WITH WU TANG! YOU HAVE ALL THAT TALENT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN TO PUT THEM OUT! HE COULD HAVE MADE WAY MORE MONEY AND TOP TIER HITS IF HIS BUSINESS MIND WAS CORRECT!

    • @marlonious7650
      @marlonious7650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      R&B is much tougher to record. Hip hop music can be mass produced much easier.

    • @professorxaviour3649
      @professorxaviour3649 ปีที่แล้ว

      Each member of the wu left rza and went their separate ways one by one!!

  • @reginaldbrownmusic8356
    @reginaldbrownmusic8356 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    pharrell williams IS IN THAT CAMP...AND TEDDY RILEY WAS PART OF THAT VA MOVEMENT TOO.

    • @sk8brdkee
      @sk8brdkee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Nah, Pharrell and Chad was way different from Da Bassment along with Teddy. Plus they work mostly in VA meanwhile Da Bassment worked in NY.

  • @erickiam25
    @erickiam25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I want to see a movie of this

  • @thejokersonyou
    @thejokersonyou 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Watch how you treat (or mistreat) people................. in the late 90s when it was THEIR TURN... I've neeeeeeeeeeever heard them even give him a shoutout...

  • @poohsreviews8992
    @poohsreviews8992 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Joe Jackson and Devante Swing Knew How to Groom their Talents aka Protégé. I just seen the Summer Block party Tour w/ Jodeci and SWV. DEVANTE'S Light is Def Dim..Not the Same Energy as he had Back in the Day Performing. I PRAY that the Swing Mob coordinate some sort of Public Acknowledgment for DeVante. I do believe that can/will Breathe Life Back Into this Handsome, Brilliant and TALENTED BROTHER. Love you DeVante Swing and THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO R&B.. BTW, the concert was 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥K-Ci, JOJO, & MR. DALVIN STILL GOT IT GOING ON..Sending Love & Light to D Swing
    🩶🖤🩶🖤🩶🖤🩶🖤

  • @oldieseras5539
    @oldieseras5539 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    But give this man his flowers ❤️❤️❤️

  • @avace917
    @avace917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    When I first heard Pony, I SWORE Devante did it. I didn't know of Timbaland besides rapping on the Jodeci records

    • @avace917
      @avace917 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Suge managing Jodeci wasn't a rumor. It said so on the Show, The After-party, The Hotel

    • @josephescobedo5226
      @josephescobedo5226 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@avace917 Dalvin also shouted Suge their manager out when they won an award for Lately in 1994 Soul Train Awards

    • @avace917
      @avace917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I never saw that. I met Missy in 96 before the Aaliyah stuff was out and she played me some of it. I asked who did the beats and she said Timbaland. Then I put the pieces together

    • @taureanmay7480
      @taureanmay7480 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes.

  • @AandP4dummieslikeme
    @AandP4dummieslikeme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I knew he was talented but I had no idea. I also had no idea there was so much controversy behind him. Thank you for posting this :-)

  • @freedom7508
    @freedom7508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My guy could have a record label that could rival ROC if he was more business-minded.

  • @shanikastevens6574
    @shanikastevens6574 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've actually met dalvin in passing in a party. He's very polite.

  • @ericcoffee6841
    @ericcoffee6841 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wow you just don't hear about how many artist Devonte help develop. Ginuwine is from my hometown and I thought Missy and Timbaland found him.

  • @nicolareid6362
    @nicolareid6362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thought I most definitely understand why they left , @DevanteSwing is most definitely a genius and I was so unaware of what he has done until this video.. big ups to that man.

  • @rabfrombk5005
    @rabfrombk5005 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ONE OF THE BEST WHO EVER DID IT ! SALUTE TO DAVANTE was just So GOD GIFTED 💪🏾💯🙏🏾

  • @latenighthub
    @latenighthub 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    That drink champs with timbaland made me wanna slap him 😂 like come on bruh 😒

  • @anthonymartin8541
    @anthonymartin8541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Snoop an Kurupt always show love to Suge even tho it was conflict but I heard Devante put hands on them so maybe that's why they don't big him up like that💯

  • @blufaerie
    @blufaerie ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I didn’t know any of this! Just that Missy and Timbaland were from Va… Wow!!!

  • @MsDisneylandlover
    @MsDisneylandlover 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Rip to my love aaliyah

    • @hoochiemama2171
      @hoochiemama2171 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Rip. 🕊 She was so talented and had such a beautiful spirit 🕊

    • @taureanmay7480
      @taureanmay7480 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rest her soul.

  • @SweetBbyRaya
    @SweetBbyRaya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My little brother was named after him. 1993 🙂

  • @Prod499
    @Prod499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    If you really think about it devante did the original making the band

    • @RenieNostalgic
      @RenieNostalgic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yep! That’s what Susan said.

  • @johnd6535
    @johnd6535 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Rochester is about 6 and half hours away from nyc

  • @goat5018
    @goat5018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    wasn’t Ginuwine called Tornado 🌪 at first ... 😂

  • @timsmooth39
    @timsmooth39 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This should be a movie.

  • @cleopatra-ju9rr
    @cleopatra-ju9rr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Most members of the da basement went on to become The Super Friends Timbaland, Missy, Playa, Ginwine. Rumour has it that Devante and Missy would race on songwriting,who could right the fastest. They were all talented and egos can become a hinderance. But make no mistake Devante laid the foundation for all of them and applied pressure because he knew they were diamonds in the rough

  • @andreawilliams4778
    @andreawilliams4778 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Static Major wrote lollipop for lil wayne

  • @ayianab2365
    @ayianab2365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    (thanks for using one of my pics in here lol.) great video! i really hope we can see or at least hear from him again. 🖤

  • @MsDisneylandlover
    @MsDisneylandlover 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was looking at your content u must be a big pac fan I love me so Tupac. Rip.

  • @user-ue9bi2ui2q
    @user-ue9bi2ui2q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    DEVAAANTAAAY SWAAAAAAAAAANNNNGGG! OOOOWEEEE!

  • @MsDisneylandlover
    @MsDisneylandlover 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They need a movie

  • @BeatsChill
    @BeatsChill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Channel going crazyyyy, keep up good the work ✌🏿🤙🏿

  • @nodonatingtogossiporentert3167
    @nodonatingtogossiporentert3167 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    EXCELLENT WORK!

  • @joharilarosa6230
    @joharilarosa6230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm interested in why Missy ditched her group. When she got her record deal Sista was on her back hard. I kept hearing "Missy what about your group " I felt so bad for all of them cause I didn't know what the hell happened??

    • @goldengirls234
      @goldengirls234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      She was told she didn’t look like and r&b girl they wanted her to write

    • @scoobytaylor4850
      @scoobytaylor4850 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Missy didnt have dat look

  • @ProjectMopar6
    @ProjectMopar6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    He had his security beat his artists. He was trying to be like Suge Knight smh

  • @nycsongman9758
    @nycsongman9758 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Unlike with Motown's beginnings, there were really no older, responsible adults around.

  • @musicstan6362
    @musicstan6362 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Chile... if i ever walked in a basement and seen young devante, kc, and Ginuwine.... call me ts madisom cause that basement wouldve been turnt out

  • @toddmaek5436
    @toddmaek5436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    See I never knew all of this stuff however, I have ALWAYS said that timbo and Devante musta atleast been around each other at some point in time because you could hear those timbo type rythms in 2pac song I came to bring the pain. i said it back then and I was RIGHT!!! (Pops own collar and sees self out) peace

    • @professorxaviour3649
      @professorxaviour3649 ปีที่แล้ว

      That ring the pain sounds nothing like timbaland beats! Not at all! That was all devante! There are no synths chords in bring the pain!!

  • @kincamell2
    @kincamell2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heavy.
    Ps Much Gratitude for sharing.
    Pps Peace to SMK (Southern Memphis Kings)

  • @chrissy8768
    @chrissy8768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    lemme go get my popcorn and enjoy this

    • @HansumTrini
      @HansumTrini 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Caramel for me Chrissy...please? Thanks

    • @taureanmay7480
      @taureanmay7480 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oooooh.