GM Hikaru on The Chess Economy | Dojo Talks

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  • @flipina
    @flipina 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    1:16 - When Hikaru started listening to ChessDojo, on chess podcasts
    2:30 - Hikaru on choosing events to play, Pruess' special distinction
    3:56 - Sinquefield, rise of chess events over the years, GCT, etc
    5:50 - Norway Chess
    8:08 - Chess organizing is thankless? Profitability of events
    9:30 - What makes a good organizer, role of social media and video streaming platforms
    11:00 - Future of chess and community outreach and exposure
    12:37 - Second boom, popularity of chess
    13:36 - Esports vs chess growth, where growth is
    16:20 - First mover advantage, business aspects of chess content
    17:48 - Chessable courses, fair value, inventives and downsides
    20:00 - Directions for chess players to monetize and make money, TH-cam video tips
    45:20 - Hikaru ranks juniors (top 5)
    50:10 - Nepo, how Hikaru assesses potential and performance
    51:36 - On the future of chess, online rapid chess, sponsorships for online chess events
    56:07 - OTB chess and online broadcasting
    58:27 - More on sponsorships, new classical time controls
    59:52 - On prizes from events, Titled Tuesdays, where players are getting money
    1:01:21 - Future events for Hikaru
    1:02:19 - Future for Hikaru's content
    1:03:32 - Why Hikaru isn't playing in Morocco and Chess Championships, scheduling of events, blaming Garry (lol)
    1:06:37 - Post-events and recaps struggle
    1:07:08 - TH-cam tricks for chess recaps
    1:08:40 - Transparency in chess content, Hikaru and Levy
    1:11:00 - Final words, Fabi vs Hikaru past rivalry for WC, candidates 2028
    😂

  • @keedt
    @keedt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    So both Jesse and David have won a classical game against Nakamura? That's pretty impressive!

    • @GMHikaru
      @GMHikaru 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

      Yes, it is easy to forget how good both of these guys are! It's also fairly scary to think that the first time I played both of them was around 2001...where does the time go.

  • @f12mnb
    @f12mnb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Nakamura is a great guest!

  • @bradleyreese5156
    @bradleyreese5156 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Normally I am not into Naka, but his perspective of how players and organizers can spread the game is enlightening! One of the best interviews I have seen in a while about how to concretely spread chess.

    • @lazydetective4774
      @lazydetective4774 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I managed to listen to about 20 minutes before I was too exhausted by all the words. Maybe I should take 20 minutes more in about a week when I have recovered ;-)

    • @bradleyreese5156
      @bradleyreese5156 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@lazydetective4774 it's a podcast? So I am unclear why all the "words" should be considered exhausting. What would you have them do, not talk on a podcast? The only thing exhausting is perhaps your inability to concentrate for longer than 20 minutes, lazy detective indeed.

    • @lazydetective4774
      @lazydetective4774 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bradleyreese5156 Dont get mad about my lack of endurance ;-)

    • @afronasty2000
      @afronasty2000 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@lazydetective4774 Dad voice: "I'm not mad, just disappointed." 😂

    • @lazydetective4774
      @lazydetective4774 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@afronasty2000 Sorry Dad. No dad, please not the belt again. Please...I will do better next time.

  • @regnitteo
    @regnitteo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Happy to hear Hikaru sees Vincent up there Top 3 - especially acknowledging his consistency 👍

  • @adiedits8027
    @adiedits8027 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    32:00 is interesting and personally, I can’t relate to it more. I took the LSAT twice after relentless, obsessive studying and got decent scores which I thought were below my potential, but good enough to get into some solid schools.
    8 months after my previous test, I was getting ready to officially enroll into a law school before I decided to give the lsat another go.
    I figured that if I achieved my goal score, I would apply to some of my dream schools. If I did terrible, I didn’t need to worry because I had already been accepted to other solid schools. I prepared WAY less and focused on the “nothing to lose” mindset and i achieved my prior best score to the extent that my dream schools became a possibility. I can’t stress enough how awesome it is to see Hikaru succeed at this level and attribute much of that success to his new mindset!

    • @kvnjng
      @kvnjng 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Congratulations! I agree, and to add on to that, I know of someone who is a great amateur classical pianist doing some very hard technical pieces on the instrument, he said that sometimes you work really hard on something and it feels like you hit a wall, but then you revisit it with a new and fresh perspective and you've let the remnants in your body and mind ''marinate'' a bit and suddenly you are better. In that sense, perhaps, Naka too got a break from classical through COVID and streaming and classical chess during 2019-2020

  • @nickschneider4830
    @nickschneider4830 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    You guys gotta upload a whole bunch following this vid and the algorithm should help you guys out… the dojo deserves some more popularity

  • @retrospect
    @retrospect 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This was awesome!

  • @freeWizard
    @freeWizard 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Wow, such a pleasant surprise to see and hear Hikaru on the pod. He's such an intellect not just with his chess but his whole perspective and knowledge around it. It really was a great listen, the best guest to have on a chess podcast. Thanks ChessDojo for inviting him and Hikaru for coming ❤

  • @yeskimkim
    @yeskimkim 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I met Hikaru at Norway Chess last year, and also heard his live talk. I was going to watch a game of his, but as I entered the playing area he drew his game with Magnus after just minutes, but fun meeting him and fun to hear him talking about this tourney

  • @WilsonMagna
    @WilsonMagna 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Hikaru a real hustler, getting those recaps ASAP, and hes right. I'll watch recaps from the good players like Hikaru and PowerplayChess, but if the only video available is from Levy or an untitled player, I'll watch that. Then once I've watched a recap on a game, its near 0 chance I'm watching it again from another youtuber.

    • @raylopez99
      @raylopez99 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The First Mover Advantage.

  • @synesthetically
    @synesthetically 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Excited for this one!

  • @liszt85
    @liszt85 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    So great to see the Chess Dojo flourish, with new high profile supporters like Hikaru! :)

    • @liszt85
      @liszt85 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Also Hikaru is absolutely right about Chessable courses by top players being useless for amateurs and benefitting the top players more. Good to see someone who knows what he's talking about say this.

    • @horaciobrown9754
      @horaciobrown9754 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      At what minute was that said

  • @mrdisco8616
    @mrdisco8616 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    It was interesting hearing Hikaru talk about the race of getting game recaps out, it kind of reminded me of David's and Sveshnikov's take on chess players owning the intellectual creation that is the game they just played. I'm more of a copyleft guy myself but something about top players working their brain at maximum for hours creating this and then having to run to their hotel room and rush their recap to make sure they get a good piece of the profit from the discussion of said game online feels just wrong.

  • @juhonieminen4219
    @juhonieminen4219 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Thumbs up for inviting Hikaru, and great that he had the time to take part! These Dojo Talks have been my favourite chess content this year, besides ChessVibes tredmill & Gout speedrun. He's had a wild year and very down to earth live streams.

  • @flipina
    @flipina 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very good interview, interesting topics too. Magnus has recently talked a lot about "flow" and Hikaru talks about "literally don’t care." These are very similar philosophies or mindsets that even I, a non-player, love hearing about.

  • @YRMW1983
    @YRMW1983 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A podcast is really the perfect medium for Hikaru (besides streaming). This was very enjoyable as Hikaru has a lot of interesting and insightful takes and you guys asked great questions! Will check out more of your episodes 😊

  • @MrSoupandBread
    @MrSoupandBread 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Getting the big guests now!

  • @katis999
    @katis999 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great Interview

  • @mikem668
    @mikem668 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hikaru is describing lots of great players in the past. Lasker, Capablanca, many of the Soviet world champions. Philosophy, diplomacy, electrical engineering, opera, classical piano. There's great value in pursuing something that isn't primarily competive. Or more accurately where you're competing with yourself and the art form itself. Not adding to your rating and ego by beating other people.

  • @daramurphy7193
    @daramurphy7193 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I think the role of blitz in nakamuras development is very interesting. I still wonder what is the exact mechanism for how he learned. Did he download and analyze the games and review mistakes as they happen, or had he such an aptitude for learning chess that just immersion in blitz was enough to improve. I feel for most players going on a blitz binge doesn't nesecairly equate to improvement.

    • @chesscomdpruess
      @chesscomdpruess 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I guess he probably mainly got better just subconsciously from tons of experience, and did not spend a bunch of time analyzing his blitz games. And I currently am thinking that this works brilliantly for a fair number of talented geniuses, but is not a learning method that can apply to most people. But I want to investigate this question further!

    • @vinothkumar1220
      @vinothkumar1220 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Watch the video where Hikaru reacts to his stepfather's interview to chessbase

  • @seinundzeiten
    @seinundzeiten 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    super interview

  • @westsidebilling
    @westsidebilling 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The main lesson to be learned here is if you're under 2500 OTB don't quit your day job!

  • @TheHipHopVlog
    @TheHipHopVlog 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I would buy Hikaru's Book 1000%

  • @sportschad
    @sportschad 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hikaru: "2700" "that low"....BRUH

  • @sarterus
    @sarterus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Burnout effects results a lot loving the game matters.

  • @danh72
    @danh72 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is great.

  • @stormixgaming8389
    @stormixgaming8389 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Cool

  • @nilent
    @nilent 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would love to see chess becoming a routine part of the school sports k through 16 curriculum like baseball, football basketball, swimming, gymnastics etc.

  • @rickstermandude
    @rickstermandude 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice episode. I think David’s name is misspelled in the introduction.

  • @MoreContent24
    @MoreContent24 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nepo never reaches 2800. His highest classical rating is 2795.

  • @keithwald5349
    @keithwald5349 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    This is not a gripe, because Naka is always interesting (and he does like the sound of his own voice). But he is very, very far from a typical GM, even typical super GM. He's made his many millions outside chess competition (the only way one could - just like Magnus and Garry). So he has many more options availble to him than does a typical GM. I think a more representative person regarding the chess economy would be someone around 2600 like Eric Hansen (check out his recent stream on this subject) up to someone around 2700 like, say, super GM Mamedyarov.
    Although economically, chess does resemble fields like art, literature, or music, it is even more extreme in that the peak is ridiculously sharp and narrow at the top, then rapidly falls off to super GMs not even being able to pay rent. The reasons for this can be discussed, but that's the reality.

    • @raylopez99
      @raylopez99 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This is a good book if you want the perspective of an "average" GM: A Year Inside the Chess World - January 1, 2016
      by Daniel Gormally (Author) - (Wikipedia) : Daniel William Gormally (born 4 May 1976) is an English chess Grandmaster. His peak rating is 2573, achieved in the January 2006 rating list.

  • @travistucker4067
    @travistucker4067 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    🔥

  • @binks2413
    @binks2413 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The content is tough for chess. If something new happens, a tournament, new device, controversy etc you everyone makes similar videos. It will become even more dilluted as time goes on

  • @bernaridho
    @bernaridho 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Is it true that chess streamer like Gotham and Botez can earn more than GM?

    • @ChessDojo
      @ChessDojo  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, the top streamers earn much more than just the average GM

  • @anotherelvis
    @anotherelvis 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Income of GMs at 19:08

  • @thechesslobster2768
    @thechesslobster2768 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Lol hilarious timing with the recent BS cheating accusations against Hikaru.

    • @AntonStachSZN
      @AntonStachSZN 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Explain pls

    • @Ninterd2
      @Ninterd2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@AntonStachSZNHikaru had an insanely impressive streak of 45.5 out of 46 points when playing blitz against FMs and CMs. Some people think that that is suspicious, but I personally just think Hikaru is that good.

    • @AntonStachSZN
      @AntonStachSZN 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      not even close to be sus@@Ninterd2

    • @motoboyaquiemlondrinapr
      @motoboyaquiemlondrinapr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hilarious, I tell you!

    • @TFPMadcow
      @TFPMadcow 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Ninterd2Hikaru has a video where he explains the math of the expected results behind that streak. I would start by watching that one, and following the math based on the official ratings.

  • @amarpatil6503
    @amarpatil6503 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bro talks so much and also fast😂 ....which also might help as a content creator and all....but still

  • @joeldick6871
    @joeldick6871 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Erm... You didn't ask him about cheating (I mean the topic of cheating and cheating accusations, not about the possibility of him cheating).

    • @ChessDojo
      @ChessDojo  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      We had a different topic for this show :)

    • @joeldick6871
      @joeldick6871 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ChessDojo Surely cheating, cheating accusations, and the discussions around it have had an impact (positive and negative) on the chess economy (the topic of this show).

    • @ChessDojo
      @ChessDojo  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yep! Just didn't come up

  • @overthetarget334
    @overthetarget334 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I challenge Hikaru to play without headphones and cameras that are on every spot in the room. His elo will be closer to his OTB.

    • @adomaskuzinas2137
      @adomaskuzinas2137 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Spotted the paranoid russian

  • @overthetarget334
    @overthetarget334 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gotham and Hikaru sitting in a tree, C-H-E-A-T-I-N-G. First came cash, then came fame, now they will their lives living in shame.

    • @musical_lolu4811
      @musical_lolu4811 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The hell is wrong with you