Doctor REACTS to Chicago Med | Psychiatrist Analyzes Psychotic Patient | Dr Elliott
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This Doctor REACTS video is my first time looking at an episode of Chicago Med. This is starting a storyline all about a psychiatrists daughter presenting with psychosis, and how this is diagnoses, how this should be handled by a family member who is also a doctor, and whether you can really hold people in hospital against their will.
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I really want you to react to more of Doctor Charles. I really like his character, he's not perfect but he's a really good guy who has enormous empathy
Yep they actually show him as a human being and not dr superman
he's the only reason I still watch the show!
4:50 I actually was going crazy hearing scratching in my ceiling at night above me, there were no rats, nothing could get up there and it was so loud in the night in the countryside and I couldn’t sleep, turned out to be bees building a nest right above the bedroom and end of mystery, I slept better once I knew it was nothing to be concerned about
I'm from California and as I have witnessed, an involuntary 72 hour hold can be imposed by even a single doctor if they are considered a threat to themselves or others. I had one placed on me by a doctor at an ER while I was post ictal from multiple seizures. My husband kept trying to tell them it was neurological, not psychiatric, but because they didn't want to deal with it, they sent me to the psychiatric hospital, who immediately called an ambulance when I had 4 seizures in the span of 6 minutes. Here's the kicker, even after that the ER sent me back to the psychiatric hospital, out of my gourd on Ativan, Versed, and Valium. I woke up 36 hours later with zero clue why I was there, and was released 3 hours later by the psychiatrist on call for the literal NON-REASON for locking up an epileptic.
I'm so sorry you went through. I'm a newly diagnosed epileptic and this is my horror story.
used to work ambo transport. they literally juggle pts and we are the go between. the cops and docs could baker act anyone over anything and did (or so it seemed, there are obviously rules but we would constantly come across people who for sure didnt need it ) and then the places they get sent to would send them right back, then repeat. nursing homes also did this. its insanity and wastes everyones time and scares a lot of people away from accepting help.
Got 5150'ed last week because I had a messy apartment. No further claims. Just a messy apartment. Also California. When I get to the actual psych clinic they all agreed I shouldn't be there. But they can't just turn off a 5150, apparently, so I was still stuck there.
Was this hospital perhaps owned by a religious word You know they would rather say you were dealing with demons rather than epilepsy
@@sammywilliam8156Religious doctors aren’t that stupid!
Chicago Med seems to be a bit more 'realistic' than most of the other hospital dramas (slightly more realistic), and the psych team of Charles and Reese (for 4 seasons) came across as very professional and sympathetic.
BTW: Dr. E: you look particularly cute in today's vid. 😅😉
In the US this is super illegal and the doctor would lose his license. There are jurisdictions where the family can petition for an involuntary hold on a family member, but the family member being the sole person to administer a hold, to my knowledge, is not allowed.
same here in the uk
Glad to hear this. Had my psychiatrist sister try to coerce me to admitting myself and I'm based in a Commonwealth member country where the qualification route mirrors that of the UK.
Hello! I'm 18 y/o Akvilė from Lithuania. Recently I got diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia. It really scared me, considering all of the stigma that surrounds conditions like these, especially in a post Soviet Union country. That said, your videos made me feel more at piece with myself, less scared of myself, less lonely and gave me hope that I will be able to live a "normal" full-filling life. You rock. Thank you💚
my aunt had same diagnosis, she worked housekeeping in nursing home from 19 till retirement. You can have normal life. Dont do drugs, with that conditions it can lead dark road. Be aware that high stress can make symptoms worse.
my aunt had same diagnosis, she worked housekeeping in nursing home from 19 till retirement. You can have normal life. Dont do drugs, with that conditions it can lead dark road. Be aware that high stress can make symptoms worse.
My cousin has the same problem and as a slav, I completely understand how you feel. Stay strong and keep fighting ❤
I hope youre doing well. ❤️
Unfortunately, in our area, your ability to get help is directly proportional to how much money we have as state run hospitals are overcrowded and they can barely treat the acute patients. So,my advice is - work hard, keep a good relationship with, preferably, a well connected doctor, take your medication religiously and know that unfortunately people will judge you far more harshly than themselves. Other than that, I have wonderful friends who are schizophrenic, one is an accomplished academic, the other - an artist. You can do whatever you want, whatever you like to do with your life - you can do it. It's not end of the world, you aren't bound to do a menial, physical job, you aren't destined to be alone and withdrawn - sure, mental illness can be limiting and difficult but so can be any health condition. Treat yourself well - ( keeping at peace with yourself and your values and dreams has been the recipe for wellness for all people I know that struggle with their mental health, me included.. it seems we do poorly in rigid confines, and forcing yourself to do something you hate just isn't conducive to wellbeing anyway). Find your people and you will be golden.
Trust between a patient and any doctor is a key ingredient. Especially in psychiatry. How do you expect your patient to talk to you about intimate stuff if they can’t trust you and even worse if the trust is broken like here
I had the same reaction to you about rats in the wall possibly bring rats in the walls but it reminded me of something i read on reddit where a patient with history of psychosis seemed well. At several appointments he talked about sone issues with housemates. The psychiatrist noticed an inconsistency in the number of of housemates, decided to dig into it and it turned out the patient actually lived alone. His delusion was of something so banal and possible - living with others and having some mild issues, that the fsct it was a delusion was missed for a while.
Chicago Med is on my rotation of "medical shows to mindlessly watch while I work" and I really enjoy it for that. It might be interesting for you to watch, I don't know that they get into any given plot deeply enough to give that much material (although there are sure enough seasons to sift through that there are some, as here) but I think they realized they struck gold with Dr. Charles as a character so the show ends up talking about mental health quite a bit - both in terms of the medical cases and the medical ethics plots the show keeps doing.
Another fantastic reaction! I’ve been hospitalized a couple times, once voluntary (I was a minor though, so it was more voluntary of my parents) and once involuntary. Both stays had their challenges, but as an adult after a fairly major attempt on my life, I was more accepting that it’s what needed to happen if I wanted my best chance at getting better.
Hope your doing better now ❤
@@KarRace77 I am, thanks. I was on a bad combo of medication and the first thing they did in the hospital was take me off of everything except my bipolar meds. It was hard at first but over time I leveled out.
In my state in the US, I think only 1 professional has to agree that you must be involuntarily committed. I don't think it even needs to be a doctor, but can also be like a therapist. A loved one can call the police if you are a threat to yourself or others, and I think the police call someone at the Department of Health to commit you. I have had an abusive partner call on me before when I tried to leave him, telling the cops I was suicidal, so they had an obligation to take me in. Then in order to get out of the psych place, I had to have a ride home. And guess who I had to call? It was awful and thwarted my efforts to escape him for awhile.
Thank you for briefly mentioning autoimmune encephalitis. I have a form of it (PANS/Basal Ganglia Autoimmune Encephalitis) and while I fortunately do not experience psychosis symptoms, my flare ups can still be pretty brutal, and the amount of doctors who have dismissed it as not being real is infuriating.
"Shortcuts are shortsighted."
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Bipolar Disorder is the family history. Her father has Bipolar, which is why he was worried about her in the first place. He was seeing his manic behaviours.
I loved this reaction! This storyline and the character of Dr Charles is one of the reasons I liked this show. More please!
she was really good and, such a nice person and as much as i love oliver platt, his character dr charles could be a muppet at times
You completely ignored all of the ethical violations committed by Dr Charles. He stole her keys and illegally entered her apartment, that's an actual crime in addition to a major ethical violation. He overrode the decision of Dr. Reese and chose to commit his own daughter despite not formally examining her. Finally there's the fact that her simply being mentally ill does not make her a danger to herself or others, at least not without any indication of self-harm or harm to other people.
Yes! Finally! I've really been hoping that a real doctor would make a video on this storyline!!❤
Please, please do a part 2, Dr. Elliot. I was hoping you would make a reaction video on this since I saw it and I'm interested in hearing your take on the rest of it
Something I’m curious about after watching this reaction: say that Dr. Charles was NOT a doctor. Say he was just Daniel Charles, father of Dr. Reese’s patient Robin. If Daniel told Dr. Reese that he had broken into his daughter’s apartment and found it in the state that he did, could Dr. Reese take that information into account? Or would it be just as bad as when Dr. House’s team directly breaks into people’s homes.
Thanks so much for getting around to reacting to Chicago Med! There are a bunch of good story lines and I really enjoyed watching Dr. Charles teaching Dr. Reese
If the home is a reflection of the mind, I'm nuts.
I heard a rat/mouse in my wall. It fell down the inner wall and then kept crying to scramble back up 😢 very distressing. My mum came round and we drilled a mouse sized hole in the wall and placed a bucket for it to jump into. Very quickly found out it was definitely a mouse and not a hallucination 😅 although drilling a hole to get it out confused some people as they thought we should have just left it, I was too distressed to let it die like that! We released it in some woodland nearby, expecting it probably wouldn’t survive but at least it wasn’t trapped and we left the hole there for a while with kitchen roll sticking out so we could see if any other mice appeared 😅 thankfully no more mice and now no more hole!
I was really pleased when you came to BMJ to talk. You're very easy to understand.
I just found your channel and I love it. Chicago Med is a good drama and you don’t see many psychiatrists on TH-cam!
Totally unrelated rec but can you speak on the story/situation with April, the woman who was catatonic with psychosis until research found she had lupus. I've only heard of it in passing and it would be fascinating to hear you talk about it.
Totally off topic: I love the season 8 snatch game background, with Jimbo’s absolutely wild portrayal of Shirley Temple 🤌🏻
I watched this episode after my psychiatrist sister lied to the psychiatrist she chose for me (I was already seeing a psychologist and wanted to find my own) without notifying me or getting my consent because of one outburst.
I normally struggle to stand up for myself, especially with family and not known to shout ever.
The psychiatrist was away on leave and yet somehow, beds in a psych ward were booked without me being seen.
The reasons provided by this sister and my delinquent brother were unfounded. According to them I was burnt out (to which I told them that I would take a holiday when I decide to) and then somehow not meeting "Responsibilities to our father" - whatever that meant.
It turns out, this surgeon father was involved and he not only tried to lie about it at first, he turned around and said I have, "Grown aloof over the past few years" and "Live [my] life like [I'm] by [myself]"... And proceeded to argue that he has a right to my medical information...
Neither responds appropriately when I ask why there was no request to meet with me and either that psychiatrist and/therapist present to discuss these "concerns"...
The psychiatrist heard my story and then told me the lies my sister fed her... That I was suicidal, not exercising, not seeing my friends, only working, etc... This sociopath of person did not live with me and actively disregards what I say about my own life. I saw a friend multiple times the week leading up to the outburst.
The psychiatrist "remembered how controlling my family is" but did not want to report this sister since apparently my sister "Went to her as a family member" but would not confirm who actually reserved the beds. Or how the hell this situation was supposed to work.
But she disagreed that admission was necessary...
My psychologist and new psychiatrist also disagreed that admission was necessary.
So this episode hit home. In this case, Robin genuinely suffered through psychosis... I had one provoked outburst after years of emotional and psychological abuse....
I'd really just like your take on this as it's really screwed me up. I'd been in therapy for years trying to learn how to peacefully be a member of this family but after that madness, I was done.
There was no apology nor acknowledgement of crossing those very clear emotional, legal and ethical boundaries.
I didn't threaten anyone or to hurt myself during the outburst - which was actually provoked... I was followed by this drug addict brother of mine (who has no business lecturing me about family responsibilities...)
Surely this is unprofessional conduct on broth my sister's (as a psychiatrist) and the psychiatrist's part?
Surely my psychologist had some duty to report this madness too?
I'd add that she's also not above accessing a family member's medical records without their consent and after this madness, tried to have me lie to our mother about which doctor she was to see and why, right before my mother was diagnosed with early-onset Alzheimer's.
She and my mother haven't had a relationship for over 2 decades and what landed up happening was this psychiatrist sister and my brother were dishing out ultimatums to her, saying she has to see the doctor (a neuropsychiatrist friend of my sister's) or they would write off our mother... And refused to let her get a second opinion...
One of the statements which still shocks me was that this sister - a practicing psychiatrist - had the audacity to say the words, "It's Mummy's fault she has Alzheimer's" and argue with me about what her friend said when providing the diagnosis, despite me having taken notes. This so-called sister was actually angry that it wasn't vascular dementia and even tried to insist that it could be reversible dementia (which is rare since most phsycians, as this neuropsychiatrist did, test for all the potential causes as a part of their differentials).
The inheritability of bipolar is exactly why I'll never have my own children. And the symptoms of bipolar and complex PTSD are why I'll never try to raise a child.
Yes!!! I've had Chicago Med/Dr. Charles on my list of things I hope you do reactions to. Honestly, you could probably do one for every single episode since Dr. Charles always has a case. Just start at the beginning and do them all! XD LOL
A lesson I learned the hard way about psychiatric evaluations is to never BLINDLY trust a psychiatric evaluation.
During the first part of the Gulf War, I was experiencing PTSD. When I was evaluated at the Army hospital in Frankfurt, Germany, I was diagnosed with Adjustment Disorder after a single 2-hour interview. Because of that, my Veteran disability claim was denied.
After 30 years of repeated misdiagnoses, I was finally given a correct diagnosis of Bipolar II and PTSD.
A month ago, I found an Army report detailing the discharge diagnoses during Desert Shield/Desert Storm that were done at that hospital:
138 psychiatric evaluations.
1. Distribution of Admission Diagnoses of Psychiatric Casualties, DSM III-R
- Adjustment Disorder 28%
- Major Depression 25
- Bipolar Disorder 6
- Other Psychosis 17
- Alcohol Dependence 5%
- Anxiety Disorder 6
- Character Disorder 11
2. Distribution of Discharge Diagnoses - Axis I, DSM III-R
- Adjustment Disorder 32%
- Major Depression 23
- Bipolar Disorder 4
- Other Psychosis 10
- Alcohol Dependence 7%
- Anxiety Disorder 7
- Other 7
- No Diagnosis 11
3. Distribution of Discharge Diagnoses - Axis II, DSM III-R
- Personality Disorder 12%
- Other 5
- None 83
I suspect that Adjustment Disorder was a unrealistically high. I'm guessing that on the rare occasions they diagnosed PTSD, it was hidden in "Other".
On a side note, thanks to former president Donald Trump's "fixing" of the VA disability backlog, I am prevented from reopening my initial disability claim. He essentially stole approximately $900,000 of disability backpay from me.
I’d love to see your take on Fight Club. I’m sure I’m not the first person to suggest it!
Snatch Game of Love in the background!
So happy you looked at chiago med!
I know you're in the UK doctor, but I was curious if you know enough about the infamous Jim Jones to do a video about his psychology and about the horrors of "Jonestown".
Dr Charles is the only reason I still watch this show! one of the early episodes of the show stands out, season 1 episode 12; nothing as dramatic as this but the way he handled the case was interesting; season 1 episode 13 does have a bit of a more extreme case tho
If we see the show as a battle royale between different approaches towards medicine and ethics and morality and "following the rules", with different main characters being on one side or another and being proven right or wrong depending on the episode and rotating over time as people leave the show and newbies are introduced... The fact that Dr. Charles is by now practically the only one left standing and the show almost always sees him as in the right, makes it a lot easier to put up with the asshole characters the show also really likes.
We call getting involuntarily committed being 51/50'ed or 72'ed.
I was involuntarily detained because one cop heard a story about what i posted on Facebook (not kidding nor exaggerating.) thankfully once i was able to meet the doctor on the ward they were able to break the hold and let me go, but i almost missed their shift and if they had gone home i would’ve been stuck there for at least a day for absolutely nothing. America is barbaric when it comes to psychiatry
Aww cliffhanger... I've been involuntarily held... I think it was the same as any of my voluntary stays though.. boring mostly.
It would be really interesting to hear your thoughts on certain states in the US making laws which allow patients access to all of their medical records and information. It sounds good in theory but in practice lead to cases like a mothers friends where, instead of being told their tests results confirmed lung cancer by their doctor they received a notification wotu the results through parient portal. As more and more NHS trusts adopt Epic more ans more are creating patient apps. As a patient, provided checks are in place to prevent things like what happened my friend's mum are in place, i can see the benefits but as somene who worked as an admin in an NHS trust which has an app, im aware of the headaches they can cause as well - the easiest example being patients needing to come earlier than an appt time due to necessary prep prior to a test but not reading the letter stating this (or not recieving the letter) and just showing up based on the time on the app which is too late.
In some states, the family can request a 72hr emergency psychiatric hold, but it has to be signed by a judge. The one problem with this is that some families will have someone committed against their will because they witnessed a crime and want to silence that person or because they live in a different reality. For example, I have a friend who's family wasn't christian and she converted to Christianity and started believing in miracles, the bible, and she changed her behavior to align with her new beliefs. Her family thought that she had lost her mind and had her committed. It was very traumatic and her father began behaving in an irrational and aggressive manner to the point that her psychiatrist told her that she needs to get away from her family for her own safety. She was released on her own after the evaluation. She has since made up with her family, but that whole ordeal was terrible.
Another great video! Would LOVE to see your take on Moon Knight!!!
Would you do another house episode? 'Control' from season one would be cool
or mindhunter
beautiful boy could be a good movie to react to. lots on addiction and the mental effects of it (on the person and family). it's a beautiful movie
I loved this. I say, more Chicago Med!
Can you do a video about A Catatonic Woman Woke Up After 20 Years & Her Case May Change Psychiatry
I think I'd struggle to open up to Dr Reese if she was a RL doctor, just seems like they're not confident in what they do so how could they confidently help me.
Try looking at the scene in boogeyman 2 were bell’s character works with Henry
Great video!! Also what happened to your forehead?
Chicago med is good and I had to be honest Chicago pd is my favourite show
Dr. Elliot makes me want to go back into psychology. But I'm too old now lol.
I hate to be a stickler… there are no rats in Alberta, Canada lol
The mind's like another full body, short term diagnosis is exclusively negative in the long term.
no pressure to answer this, you prob won’t even see it, but a few years ago i had a pretty severe depressive episode and was seeing a psychotherapist and after a month he completely ghosted me, no word from anyone, he just stopped responding to correspondence. what should one do in this situation?? (this was years ago so i’m not really asking for me anymore, but it messed me up pretty bad and i don’t want other people to go through it)
I wish you luck. As far as I know, unless there are mitigating circumstances, that isn't legal or ethical conduct.
in the US, it just takes one doctor, and why it can be terrifying to get mental health care. There are many stories of a doctor with a grudge or someone who's mad at their patient for advocating for themselves and then committing them involuntarily. On top of that, if the patient doesn't have someone who has the power of attorney over them, it can be almost impossible to get help once you're involuntarily committed. Either way, if you want to get help, you have to give up freedom to protect yourself in case a doctor wants to be shitty.
I’d like to remind everyone that it’s a show 😂
Yay
Could you please do another hannibal episode?
Sorry this is very long.
I was sectioned in a psych hospital in the uk for 6 months. The vast majority of people I met there were there 'voluntarily' only because a&e doctors told them that if they didn't agree then they would be sectioned and people were very scared of that.
The HCA's and nurses encouraged them not tell the consultant if they wanted to leave (most of them did) because the consultant knew the situation and would likely organise a meeting to section them without discussion. The consultant knew that if the patient changed their mind it was likely only because they were so scared not because they really wanted to stay.
It's a broken system because sectioning can be fought through the legal system but these people ended up with less legal rights as they were essentially forced to stay 'voluntarily' by a&e doctors and through fear.
Since leaving hospital and starting group therapy, I have heard stories from many other people who were in very similar situations in other psych hospitals.
and now her boyfriend is gonna use his connections to get her out and she's gonna harm herself.
am I the only one bothered about the end? She talks to him with clear frustration and that will only lead to him blaming himself, which might cause great anxiety or depression, something he might already be experiencing because he's watching a loved onw deteriating. In my opinion you need to be professional even with the relatives. She should have calmly explained to him what they were going for but also told him that it wasn't his fault because he reacted based on the information he had and he couldn't have known what they were planning. If you don't involve the relatives in the treatment and the planning, they might accidentally do something wrong because they haven't been informed. Now I have not watched this show so I don't know the full story, so there could absolutely be something I'm missing, but just from this clip, I feel like she's blaming him by the tone she's using (might be because I have severe anxiety that I feel that way), which is not something you should do to someone who was worried and wanted to help but was not informed properly to make the right decisions.
Now I'm not saying doctors and psychiatrists can't have feelings, its fine to be frustrated when things goes wrong and you feel for your patients, but you can't let that go out over the family. Calm down and be prepared before you talk to them so you don't end up causing them to feel worse when they probably already feeling hella shitty over the whole situation. People don't (generally) want to force their loved ones into forced care, they do it because they FEEL like it was the only option, and it can happen if they don't get the information they need. In many places people are also not well informed about mental health in general, which also causes problems as its hard to know what to do or how to help.
Your compassion is kind but I think it's misplaced in this situation. You seem to be seeing everything through the lens of Dr. Charles being the patient's family but missing the part where he is a doctor in this institution - an important one at that, I don't know if he's head of his own department but if he's not he could be. He is also Dr. Reese's direct superior and mentor. (Dr. Reese started out as a med student, I don't know how far along she is in this season - clearly far along enough to be handling cases on her own but I'd guess she's still pretty newly-minted as doctors go). We saw him commit unethical and illegal acts as a doctor in this episode and the reason they're considered unethical and illegal was precisely because that's the kind of situation they can lead to. So on these points:
> She talks to him with clear frustration and that will only lead to him blaming himself, which might cause great anxiety or depression, something he might already be experiencing because he's watching a loved onw deteriating.
It is entirely appropriate to blame oneself when one has done something blameworthy, and Dr. Charles has done something blameworthy - both towards his daughter whose privacy he illegally invaded and his student/mentee who he undermined and failed to trust. Sure blaming oneself can cause anxiety and depression but plenty of things can cause those. The appropriate response is for a person to figure out how to handle guilt without falling into toxic patterns, not to avoid placing responsibility where it belongs in order to avoid causing feelings of guilt.
It is also pretty relevant that Dr. Reese is Dr. Charles' subordinate and mentee. If it were the other way around I might be in partial agreement with you in terms of the angry outburst; that kind of emotion can be threatening coming from a superior and too punitive for someone who is still learning. But this is not that, Dr. Charles has nothing to feel threatened about and isn't "still learning" except in the sense that every human always is. Dr. Reese, on the other hand - she who just got undermined by her own mentor in a case that was important to her own development as a doctor - is.
Thinking back I wonder if Dr. Reese's professional position isn't itself a plot-relevant reason for her outburst, it's kind of coming back to me that this might have been one of her first cases as a full doctor no longer under Dr. Charles' supervision (not going to edit the bits where I described her as his subordinate because if he's head of department or something then she still is, and either way he's her senior by far)? In which case her anger is a response to her own sense of threat, she needs to redefine their relationship as being peers instead of student/teacher and this situation is a clear warning sign to her that Dr. Charles doesn't see her that way yet. This kind of open anger is a signal to him that they *are* peers, that what he did wasn't acceptable meddling by a teacher but was instead the kind of unacceptable interference that any doctor would fight back against.
> it wasn't his fault because he reacted based on the information he had and he couldn't have known what they were planning.
Except it absolutely was his fault. He put himself in a position to have only partial information by trying to get involved in his daughter's case *as a doctor*, doing things that parents aren't supposed to do and that doctors aren't allowed to. He also reacted on that information in an extreme way that wasn't the only possible response a person could have had. The *reason* he wasn't supposed to be working his daughter's case and that he wasn't supposed to try and access her records or break into her home (can't remember if he did that straight-up illegally or if he had a key or something) and was supposed to assume the doctor he trusted to take her case was competent and knew what they were doing, *is precisely to avoid this kind of thing happening*.
The interesting thing is that in the context of the show, Dr. Charles doesn't need your defense. Like I said higher up he's absolutely stable enough mentally to take the kind of blame Reese laid on him, and he's also enough of a competent, ethical doctor to know that she is right. This isn't a fragile flower making an innocent mistake, it's a seasoned professional knowingly making a wrong decision and being capable of realizing it after the fact and accepting the consequences (... I'm saying this without remembering the immediate aftermath in the show so someone correct me if I'm wrong for this specific situation).
IIRC the family dynamics are even messier in the show than these clips show. I think Dr. Charles and his daughter are estranged at this point in the show, or only just reconciling after a long estrangement? Dr. Charles actions aren't *just* those of a worried father trying to do what's best, they're also those of a guilty father trying to undo past sins but being not quite past those sins enough to avoid compounding them instead.
@@oosakasan I see, the thing I missed was that he was a doctor, which definitely would have made me look at that scene in a different light. Not sure if that was unclear from the video or if its just my faceblindness and horrible memory for names that made me not realize he was the same character from before. It can get very confusing in shows sometimes when I don't know its the same person as before ^^'
Thanks for the very informative answer, with the context I do fully agree. He probably should have known better and definitely should have talked to the person he entrusted with her care before just sending her off.
There are so many rats in Chicago, not only downtown but in the suburbs!
I have schizophrenia and I have been recovered for 5 years 🎉
(I know this is long but it’s really important please read!)
but I want to add something, when you say these things ‘seem real’ to patients, I understand where you’re coming from but what medical staff miss is our perspective. To us, they don’t seem real, they are real. They are just as vivid as everything else I see. The dehumanisation of us leads to dismissal of how terrifying what we are experiencing is and thinking we are overreacting. you are not experiencing these things but we genuinely are. And then people end up unintentionally gaslighting us. How does someone with no mental illness react to gaslighting? Not favourably and we react the same way to it as everyone else. Alot of distress we have when around medical staff is because they treat us as if we’re making it up, it’s that disconnect of thinking your reality is the only one that can be legitimately experienced. I’m not asking anyone to validate my paranoia or tell me these things I’m seeing are objectively real but I need medical staff to meet me where I am, treat me like a human who is seeing/hearing/feeling/experiencing awful things, empathise with how if they where actually experiencing these things and people acted like you’re making it up, they would be very distressed as well. People then resist treatment because if I told you you don’t have a laptop behind you but you see it, you can touch it, to you its so clearly there, but I kept insisting you’re crazy there’s nothing there, think of how infuriating that would be. Would you trust me and my decisions after that? I really think if medical staff treated us like people and acknowledged we are actually experiencing these things and didn’t tell us we’re seeing things or it’s not real, you’d have alot more compliance with treatment. If you repeatedly insist I do not have a nose when I can see, feel, touch it. I can’t trust your judgement, if medical staff just treated us like humans and empathised and imagined what it would be like to experience these often horrific things and have everyone tell you it’s not real, schizophrenics would be less damaged and traumatised by psychiatric treatment in the long run. Treating people like they’re crazy makes people go crazy. If staff treated me like a rational human who is really experiencing these things and not a monster with 4 eyes I wouldn’t have resisted meds but if you tell me I have three legs when I clearly do not, I end up thinking you have an alterior motive because that’s obviously not true. If people actually imagined what it would be like, pick something in your room, and everyone told you you are mad, there’s nothing there, you need to be locked away, how would you react?? Schizophrenics are a lot more rational then people think and if they empathised with us and imagined what it would actually be like they’d see why we resist. If you tell me I’m seeing things that aren’t real and that humans don’t have noses, I can’t trust you because….we do. But if you said it must be so frustrating to see this thing that other people don’t, I know you see it, I believe you, I can help you, I’d at least feel a bit more comfortable with you.
You're upset by... objective, provable truth that you are, in fact, hallucinating? Wow. You'd have an easier time if you'd admit that the hallucinations aren't real and you just THINK they are.
Hey. Your forehead looks a bit red??? You okay?
Other than scrubs and not really fond of that many medical shows just because of how widely inaccurately feel as a potential patient I don't like this show just because of the psychiatrist