Doing this now… went to 3 places for brakes, searched internet before finding out I need to weld a new flange on the axles to put new brakes on. Thanks for this.
Good stuff to know. I'll share this with you. Years ago, my mother-in-law hired a fellow to haul a single-wide mobile home from Durham, NC to Cumming, GA. No problem, right? Except she had he son, a carpenter, put T1-11 plywood siding on it. Now the driver didn't take into account the extra weight of the siding. Along the 360 mile journey, the tires kept blowing out. I forgot how many tires he had to fix, but what would have been a 6 hr drive turned into an over-nighter. He did get it to Cumming, but had to haggle with her on the additional cost of transportation. I doubt he got his due from her, though. Woman was tight with money and uncompassionate.
@1giantsgarage918 Question for you. Are the swing arms the same left to right? Seems I have 2 right sided arms. One brake works great and the other won't grip hard enough to stop as good. However, that wheel works fine in reverse so I'm assuming the arm is wrong!
@@kentkirkpatrick7953the arms are different for left and right sides. The actuating arm should be on the front side of the assembly (direction of travel), not on the rear. If you have that, it is on the wrong side.
Just removed an axle and leaf spring off mobile home and scrapped it....have one left on the home and wonder if people buy these...its from a 65 mh and the home is on cynderblocks. So they held weight one time..as they are ment to...but axles are good I think. And would leafaprings be no good? Does zhave the magnet inside.. But would like to sell this one instead of scrap.
So if the trailer i bought has hubs with lugs in it and cane with 14.5 tires at 6 lug 5.5 bolt pattern then am I correct in assuming that that would be Highway safe and not just a mobile home rated axle. My main concern is safety on the road and not having issues of course
Sounds like you have a standard 5,200# axle. If maintained properly it should be just fine. Also there are no "Mobile Home Only" rated axles. That designation is only applied to certain tires manufactured just for the moving of mobile homes and will be clearly marked on the side. They are essentially cheaper constructed, lower weight rated tires.
When rewiring the magnets do you run 1 hot to vehicle plug and the other to the trailer frame for ground or run ground to vehicle plug. Thanks for the video..
I run mine to a ground screw close to the axles but the same screw has a wire to the plug for vehicle ground. So basically I do both but I think either way would be sufficient. 👍👍
Great Video Very helpful! I have a brake drum identical to the middle example in your trailer and mine locked up at the moment. any recommendations how i can unlock it?
Your best bet is to pull off the tire and start heating evenly around the outside of the drum. I'm assuming the pads are rusted to the drum if it's been sitting. The other option, since you'll need new brakes anyway is to let it cool after the heating if that doesn't work and get in from behind it and soak the pad area with penetrating oil. You'll need new pads afterwords and your drum will need to be cleaned up but those are about the only two ways I've known to free up stuck brakes on these.
I have a tandem axle 16ft trailer with mobile home type hubs on them. Can I convert the hub to regular hubs for regular trailer tires. Can you do a video on this process. one of the bearings wore out on the hub and the tire and hub came off and I dont know where the tire and hub went. I do not want to buy an entire new axle with hubs.
You should be able to as long as the spindle is not damaged (the cone looking piece the hub and bearings ride on). I don't have the stuff here to convert one but I may have time to do a How-To video this weekend. The only difference between a MH style drum and a regular drum sized for the same bearings is how the wheels bolt on. As long as you have a 6 lug drum sized for the correct bearings and brake shoes it's an easy swap. Stay tuned and I'll see what I can put together. 👍👍
@@1giantsgarage918 Thanks man you have the best illustrations.... also my trailer does not have brakes. It is an old trailer very heavy. If it did not have a trailer jack on it I could not raise it by myself. 2 people barely can....lol Again thanks alot and keep me posted.
I have wheels that are froze up. They won’t roll, nor will the hubs come off. I’m not sure if the brakes are froze up or if the hubs have rusted in place. Any recommendations for a next step to remove the hub?
@@1giantsgarage918 I have previously soaked the inside of the wheel with penetrator, to no avail. It may get real hot when that penetrator gets heated. Lol. BTW: your video was excellent. I watched several before I had a good feeling of the process, after finding yours. Thank you
Thanks. I've got a question though for you or anybody for the problem I soon have to face, tackle and conquer, hopefully. I have to move a 1974 "Homette",12 X 64, on my property which has 2 axles (with mounts for a 3rd as well on the frame) and all the drums/hubs are stuck and will not rotate. I haven't put much force, banging or any other method to them yet but pretty sure it going take some to free them. Both axles have brakes and I assume it's the drums stuck to the shoes . Thinking of making something I can bolt up to at least 2 or 3 lug nuts and hit the drum with my air hammer ? Any advice that might work is appreciated.
worst case, go behind backing plate and cut the nuts that hold backing plate (assuming you have nuts like my trailer does) then take drum backing plate, bearings, brakes all off and replace.
@@thatbiguy1975 Thank you for the tips sir. Some strategic hammer blows did the trick before having to go to those great lengths, luckily and thankfully.
It depends on which ones you have. You will have to use calipers to measure the ID of the brake hub and the OD of the spindle where the seal rides. A common one will measure approx 2.51"x1.94". If it does you will need seal #10-40 Dexters. If it does not you will have to plug in the numbers and do an eBay search. That's where I find most of mine.
Nice overview. Although I'm disgusted at the thought of facing such a setup, the old clean/paint/lubricate routine will be facilitated by the memory of your setup
Very Helpful. Can you get a new brake setup and keep your mobile home drums and tires?
Thank you SO MUCH!
I just bought a gooseneck just like this one. No idea what I am doing.
This really helped.
lol.. about to do the same. how did it work out?
Doing this now… went to 3 places for brakes, searched internet before finding out I need to weld a new flange on the axles to put new brakes on. Thanks for this.
Did you find where to buy the flanges?
Thank, you for you're video I want to see you're video on these axles.
Thank you. This video was way more helpful that all thw viseosni have watched. Thank you again
best concise info found in an hour searching webs thank you
Good stuff to know. I'll share this with you. Years ago, my mother-in-law hired a fellow to haul a single-wide mobile home from Durham, NC to Cumming, GA. No problem, right? Except she had he son, a carpenter, put T1-11 plywood siding on it. Now the driver didn't take into account the extra weight of the siding. Along the 360 mile journey, the tires kept blowing out. I forgot how many tires he had to fix, but what would have been a 6 hr drive turned into an over-nighter. He did get it to Cumming, but had to haggle with her on the additional cost of transportation. I doubt he got his due from her, though. Woman was tight with money and uncompassionate.
People often underestimate the weight of building materials. Great story and a great lesson for everyone!
Great Video, I have non serviceable breaks - that was very helpful!.
Many thanks for the video! Excellent, brief, and to the point.
I have a question, the two wires at back of break axel, connected to magnet. Is one a ground wire and other hot I'm assuming?
That's correct and as I recall it doesn't matter which you use as which.
Great vivdeo...succinct and useful presentation...thank you!
I lucked out. I have that same style but with C clips that hold the shoes on. So i had the shoes relined and shes good as new!
Nice, that's a great score!
@1giantsgarage918 Question for you. Are the swing arms the same left to right? Seems I have 2 right sided arms. One brake works great and the other won't grip hard enough to stop as good. However, that wheel works fine in reverse so I'm assuming the arm is wrong!
@@kentkirkpatrick7953the arms are different for left and right sides. The actuating arm should be on the front side of the assembly (direction of travel), not on the rear. If you have that, it is on the wrong side.
Just removed an axle and leaf spring off mobile home and scrapped it....have one left on the home and wonder if people buy these...its from a 65 mh and the home is on cynderblocks. So they held weight one time..as they are ment to...but axles are good I think. And would leafaprings be no good? Does zhave the magnet inside.. But would like to sell this one instead of scrap.
They sell around here, usually very cheap. Alot of guys like the single heavy leaf spring they came with better than a multi leaf pack.
Thanks for this video, where do you prrchase the weld on brake kits for these?
I found some on eBay, seems to be the easiest. There are some trailer parts places too that could order them for you.
Good video with no bullshit.
So if the trailer i bought has hubs with lugs in it and cane with 14.5 tires at 6 lug 5.5 bolt pattern then am I correct in assuming that that would be Highway safe and not just a mobile home rated axle. My main concern is safety on the road and not having issues of course
Sounds like you have a standard 5,200# axle. If maintained properly it should be just fine. Also there are no "Mobile Home Only" rated axles. That designation is only applied to certain tires manufactured just for the moving of mobile homes and will be clearly marked on the side. They are essentially cheaper constructed, lower weight rated tires.
Do you know where I could locate the inner grease seal? I can't find the proper size anywhere
Have you tried northern tool?
When rewiring the magnets do you run 1 hot to vehicle plug and the other to the trailer frame for ground or run ground to vehicle plug. Thanks for the video..
I run mine to a ground screw close to the axles but the same screw has a wire to the plug for vehicle ground. So basically I do both but I think either way would be sufficient. 👍👍
@@1giantsgarage918 thanks for the info...
Great Video Very helpful! I have a brake drum identical to the middle example in your trailer and mine locked up at the moment. any recommendations how i can unlock it?
Your best bet is to pull off the tire and start heating evenly around the outside of the drum. I'm assuming the pads are rusted to the drum if it's been sitting. The other option, since you'll need new brakes anyway is to let it cool after the heating if that doesn't work and get in from behind it and soak the pad area with penetrating oil. You'll need new pads afterwords and your drum will need to be cleaned up but those are about the only two ways I've known to free up stuck brakes on these.
@@1giantsgarage918 Thank you very Much sir very helpful!!
Thanks, needed this!
Thank you so much
I have a tandem axle 16ft trailer with mobile home type hubs on them. Can I convert the hub to regular hubs for regular trailer tires. Can you do a video on this process. one of the bearings wore out on the hub and the tire and hub came off and I dont know where the tire and hub went. I do not want to buy an entire new axle with hubs.
You should be able to as long as the spindle is not damaged (the cone looking piece the hub and bearings ride on). I don't have the stuff here to convert one but I may have time to do a How-To video this weekend. The only difference between a MH style drum and a regular drum sized for the same bearings is how the wheels bolt on. As long as you have a 6 lug drum sized for the correct bearings and brake shoes it's an easy swap. Stay tuned and I'll see what I can put together. 👍👍
@@1giantsgarage918 Thanks man you have the best illustrations.... also my trailer does not have brakes. It is an old trailer very heavy. If it did not have a trailer jack on it I could not raise it by myself. 2 people barely can....lol Again thanks alot and keep me posted.
@@1giantsgarage918 i would more info on converting to a regular hub also please!
I have wheels that are froze up. They won’t roll, nor will the hubs come off. I’m not sure if the brakes are froze up or if the hubs have rusted in place. Any recommendations for a next step to remove the hub?
See my response to Tyler B below. Yours sounds like the same scenario!
@@1giantsgarage918 I have previously soaked the inside of the wheel with penetrator, to no avail. It may get real hot when that penetrator gets heated. Lol. BTW: your video was excellent. I watched several before I had a good feeling of the process, after finding yours. Thank you
Definitely prepare for some smoke and fire, lol. Start heating around the outside of the drum. Most likely it's rusted solid to the brakes. Good luck!
Thanks. I've got a question though for you or anybody for the problem I soon have to face, tackle and conquer, hopefully. I have to move a 1974 "Homette",12 X 64, on my property which has 2 axles (with mounts for a 3rd as well on the frame) and all the drums/hubs are stuck and will not rotate. I haven't put much force, banging or any other method to them yet but pretty sure it going take some to free them. Both axles have brakes and I assume it's the drums stuck to the shoes . Thinking of making something I can bolt up to at least 2 or 3 lug nuts and hit the drum with my air hammer ? Any advice that might work is appreciated.
Check the comments and replies I gave Tyler below. I think the same processes will help you. HEAT, BEAT, REPEAT 😂😂
worst case, go behind backing plate and cut the nuts that hold backing plate (assuming you have nuts like my trailer does) then take drum backing plate, bearings, brakes all off and replace.
@@1giantsgarage918 Thank you sir. Only took some beating, fortunately. Now I've just got a few bad studs to deal with and on with the wheels.
@@thatbiguy1975 Thank you for the tips sir. Some strategic hammer blows did the trick before having to go to those great lengths, luckily and thankfully.
Thankz!
This was a really helpful explanation. Thank you.
My trailer is similar. What size or type grease seal do I need to buy?
It depends on which ones you have. You will have to use calipers to measure the ID of the brake hub and the OD of the spindle where the seal rides. A common one will measure approx 2.51"x1.94". If it does you will need seal #10-40 Dexters. If it does not you will have to plug in the numbers and do an eBay search. That's where I find most of mine.
@@1giantsgarage918 thank you
Im having a hard time removing the hub should i just keep smaking it with the hammer
Think
Thanks for the video
What is your axle spacing ?
I have the same brake assembly on my trailer and can't find parts anywhere. Do you know where I can find parts?
EBay is where I found most of mine.
Nice overview. Although I'm disgusted at the thought of facing such a setup, the old clean/paint/lubricate routine will be facilitated by the memory of your setup