Advocates want fire shelters upgraded for firefighters

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  • @RVSD1984
    @RVSD1984 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m happy there mentioning this again. I hope all fire fighters and hot shots are taken care of. I watch “ only the brave” once a year and cry. Pray everytime I hear about fires and such, for fire fighters and forest fire hot shots.

  • @alanhelton
    @alanhelton 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The fact we still don’t have an upgrade is very concerning, upsetting, unsettling…

    • @alanhelton
      @alanhelton 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      500 deg resilient bonding agents between layers… and can’t be exposed to direct flame… they are wrong for not using better.

  • @mikepanasiuk474
    @mikepanasiuk474 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some one screw up the IC knew they were in trouble all air tankers should went to their rescue

    • @shawncrespi4436
      @shawncrespi4436 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The air tankers tried but couldn’t find the crew. Hard with all the smoke.

  • @mikepanasiuk474
    @mikepanasiuk474 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never heard anyone turn down an order

  • @deanc.5984
    @deanc.5984 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    GOVT is cheap when it comes to your safety.🙄

  • @bobbymckenzie3202
    @bobbymckenzie3202 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There's soooo many people out there with literally tons of money....I can't believe nobody has ever donated better tech to people like this. I would have no problem doing this if I actually had the money, you're never going to need all of it and you can't take it with you....

    • @ssilent8202
      @ssilent8202 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Because the “better tech” doesn’t really exist…

    • @shawncrespi4436
      @shawncrespi4436 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yup. The shelters are only designed to protect against radiant heat. Not direct fire as they experienced in that densely vegetated box canyon in Yarnell.

  • @mikepanasiuk474
    @mikepanasiuk474 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How come when they call we’re trapped why wasn’t the mayday signal given so all aircraft can fly to their rescue these water tankers could of help someone drop the ball

    • @ssilent8202
      @ssilent8202 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Heat rises. Lost of smoke and fire will heat up the air and mess with helicopter flight. Simply too risky

  • @BanjoZZZ
    @BanjoZZZ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Who TF is Jason Ramos? The shelters DO work as the agency says they will. Every FF knows they aren't designed to protect against radiant heat.

    • @BrilloHead
      @BrilloHead 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, that incident on June 30, 2013, shows that fire shelters don't work. If they had worked at all, then those 19 firefighters should still be alive today. Jason is right after all. It's time for a new innovation in fire shelters.

    • @ssilent8202
      @ssilent8202 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BrilloHeadyou don’t understand everything has limits do you? The shelters were as good as they could’ve been, they are not an end-all-be-all protection, they are not guaranteed, they are just the last defense. They are made as good and they can get, and that’s that, really.
      Edit typo

    • @BrilloHead
      @BrilloHead 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ssilent8202 There are superior alternatives to current designs. To say that the current ones are as good as they could be is a lie.

    • @ssilent8202
      @ssilent8202 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BrilloHead proof?

  • @viper26ja79
    @viper26ja79 ปีที่แล้ว

    No one has been successful just attempting to outrun the fire front, and I definitely feel the shelter we use is a false sense of security depending on topography, weather, and fuels. We call it the baked potato for multiple reasons. Weight is an issue, we are already up their with a lot of weight as it is, nothing is fireproof just like nothing is bulletproof. I'm glad they are looking at the shelter systems again. But I'm not going to hold my breath on them conceiving a lightweight catch all shelter that can take direct flame impingement at these temperatures and keep the smoke eater alive inside. The current addition can not handle direct flame impingement, and only does well against radiant heat.

    • @Iluvlollipops
      @Iluvlollipops 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Add a small 10 minute oxygen supply?

    • @viper26ja79
      @viper26ja79 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Iluvlollipops probably a bad idea to add an oxidizer to something a person needs to hide under during a burn over.

  • @alexbinkley5479
    @alexbinkley5479 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reminds me of Chernobyl: use cheap material, pay the consequences. In this case playing god with lives to save a buck…

  • @mikepanasiuk474
    @mikepanasiuk474 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Then don’t used them it’s false hope where they come up with a different plans

  • @nwofoe2866
    @nwofoe2866 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fort Huachuca has helis, why weren't they called? Remember Nam, they can move quickly.

    • @johnhill4964
      @johnhill4964 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aircraft was there. They, the air units, could not see where the members were located.

    • @nwofoe2866
      @nwofoe2866 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnhill4964 didn't know that. Hope that tactics can be learned from this to save lives in future.

  • @speakthewordbiblestudy
    @speakthewordbiblestudy ปีที่แล้ว

    And the fires are even hotter now! That world never cared for anybody in it, so why many still care for it is beyond insanity!

  • @happydays0220
    @happydays0220 ปีที่แล้ว

    💋

  • @workstationmark4103
    @workstationmark4103 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why don't they recruit newly arrived immigrants to fight the fires?

  • @RSKLove
    @RSKLove ปีที่แล้ว

    Why? It’s a fire. Develop something okay, engineers up!

  • @rmohr6764
    @rmohr6764 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wildland Fire fighters, we weren't/are not issued any deployable "fire shelter" that can withstand direct flame(s) . . ..but look at the forearms of many Seasoned Wildland Fire fighters in Idaho area. Scarred by intense heat burn scarring, "Smoke Jumpers" too. Granite guys, weren't suppose to be there, in the first place. Now, my last fire, a fire crew could turn down a order. That's New,🇺🇸 former Wildland Fire fighter, AD-ll-TYPE-ll-FF Arizona🏜️🇺🇸