The issue I have with flip sockets especially with that adaptor is that anything close to an obstruction you can’t get to. This is especially an issue on vehicles. You are not saving much, if any, space with the adaptor and three flip sockets versus six regular 1/4 drive sockets (and really 5 because who needs 7mm on the regular). One tool I have found that I have not seen anyone actually review is the matador flip screwdriver. It is, I think, similar to what comes in German cars but has the 8mm and 10mm sockets in the handle. Sadly not available in the US.
I think at that point I'd use the Knipex. It can tackle that situation but not as easily as with actual sockets. There are also 3 inch versions of the adapter because they're the same as Klein: www.amazon.com/dp/B09R2L4GFJ? I might be misunderstanding your statement - but I'm willing to bet a Knipex could do it
Pleased to note that if you like the color coding, Klein has a metric version of the flip sockets now. I normally consider the Knipex water pump pliers overkill and "fast fashion fad" for EDC because people often carry them with a multitool that has pliers or with a multitool without pliers to be "smaller" (but then add the big pliers!) But then I also consider "EDC" to be the stuff YOU carry on your person, not "in my truck" or whatever. Even so, if you're building e.g. a car kit or a "go bag" of some sort where the tools are just one of many things you need to pack, but you don't want to be without them … the kit you've built using them seems like a good option! It's not a bad tool-quite the opposite actually-but most people showing them off have them to photograph and as pocket jewelry, which makes them kind of overhyped in a crowd of people who mostly aren't gonna use them. In the right context though it's hard to say you could find much better! I have the Wiha double-ended bits. Annoying that you literally cannot get the bit reload for security screws on Amazon, nor currently is that Centrifix extension available. The SlimFix isn't quite deep enough to be a tight hold either unless you're prepared to drill it out a bit and install a magnet a little deeper. And I'm not. I'd recommend for a kit like I described that you skip the Wiha bits entirely and just use the ones from the Steinwhale kit. Possibly with the PBSwiss bit holder instead of the one that comes with the Steinwhale kit.
The Klein Metric just came out, which was clutch, and yep, I grabbed one! On Knipex, I disagree with the naysayers. $30 might seem steep for a tool, but it’s nothing compared to what people spend on EDC gear like pocket knives or prybars. In the mic world, $30 is a drop in the bucket! And honestly, the Knipex is just a killer tool. I’ve seen so many kits that could drop five tools just by adding a Knipex. For most people, it covers the need for adjustable or open-ended wrenches-a better minimalist option than those tiny Crescents. A plumber even told me that a Knipex 125 or 180 could replace a whole socket set for general use. So, TL;DR: $30 is worth it. My 6-inch Knipex handles all kinds of odd jobs and even outperforms Leatherman multitools (though I get the appeal of their versatility). Knipex is worth every penny. And great call on the double-sided Wiha bits-I’ve gone back to the Wera Toolcheck Plus. I even keep it under my car seat now! It’s so handy, my hands just naturally go for it. I customized it by removing duplicates and bits I don’t use, and it’s now my go-to.
I think I may have found a better option than the Topeak ratchet to pair with the Steinwhale extender/bit kit. Check out the aluminum Titan 11317 swivel ratchet bit driver. The steel one weighs over 3 oz but the aluminum (colorful) versions weigh less than 2 oz.
@@Dracomies Agreed. BTW, the Steinwhale stubby double-sided bits fit directly into this swivel ratchet. Wiha double-sided do not - you'd need the Steinwhale extender.
Great EDC! It's great to see life differences shown in tools. I work with larger machinery so 180 sizes and Leatherman Charge is acceptable. As well as a Crunch for vice grips/replaceable saw. That ratchet is something I've never seen and looks great. Would be interested in seeing the torque it will take. A standard 10mm wrench reefing on it may break it. It may not be applicable to your needs so no stress. All in all very cool. Thank you for sharing.
Oh I agree with you 100%!! It’s super fun and interesting to watch everyone’s EDC kits. :D It does give you a glimpse into their lifestyle. As for the RocketLite DX. I saw it on a ton of bicycle videos but I like it a lot! I don’t know the extent of its limits but it does have a good amount of torque. Though I think for something hardcore it may not be able to handle it.
It's good to see that you're still adapting your kit. Never Stop : ) It does seem like there's a real dearth of compact EDC saws. I think Victorinox saws are great but I hesitate to use them because they don't feel disposable... and I wouldn't attempt cutting metal with them. I've seen some decent DIY jigsaw handles but none with integrated blade storage. Maybe I'm asking for too much.
I do have a Silky Pocketboy (yes it's a real name) :P in my car under the spare tire if I need to use it. To date I haven't had to use it in the past 4 years :D. I do use the Walker though actually :P
Oh I definitely don't cut metal. I can't recall ever cutting metal in my life :D But for the occasional blocks of wood or branches I like using Vic saws. But I think that's the realization on my end, I don't think I use saws, they're probably the least-used tool for me - which is why I like the Walker because it is the saw by itself in the 1 out of 878 chance I need to use one :P Rather than it being something forever connected to some clunky multitool that is lugging around weight for nothing :P
@@Dracomies Coincidentally found myself in need of a wood saw outside of my shop last night. I ended up using a hacksaw blade (for metal) and a meat cleaver to get the job done. Despite how it sounds it turned out good : )
yip the Silky is definitely not pocketable! :D But I remember I bought it back then because it was mowing through wood on a bunch of TH-cam vids :P@@user-zz8ln3uh5x
Nice kit. We hava a lot of the same stuff. I managed to get the victorinox Walker just as it was discontinued - a real shame... The Huntsman is great and has scissors too! Although it is quite heavy
I know right?!! The Victorinox Walker is so awesome!! I think people who prefer it may have been few and far between. But these days it's all about being minimalist, we freaking love this stuff!!
@@Dracomies The My First Victorinox has the same toolset as the Walker - but with the rounded blade and over twice the price.... The walker was the cheapest SAK with a saw....
Believe it or not a torx T40 actually work on the double sided sockets to an extent because I was wanting a shorter extension bit and didnt wanna spend 10 bucks for the 3 inch version of it
Found it! Looks like they have a 3 inch and a 5 inch version. I'll pick up the 3 inch one - though the 5 inch one is handy. Thank you for the heads-up! This makes it even more smoller! :D
Looks like they do work but probably best not to line them on the stick but they are compatible: th-cam.com/video/tnYu4rEXo_s/w-d-xo.html @@jasonrouah514
Yeah I wish they didn't have so many duplicates. ie how many PHO, PH2 do I need :P I remember when I first built the kit, i removed the duplicates and replaced them with other bits.
Which version of the Wiha bit reload kit did you get? I think that a combination of the Technician, and Industrial offers the most sizes, but there will be a lot of duplicates. Sadly, Wiha no longer offers the bits individually, if they did, you could get the Technician set, and just buy the extra hex ones.
Both! But yes you get duplicates but I removed the duplicates, kept them in a small ziploc bag. If you value torx more for pocket knives and such one of them focuses on that. If you want the Hex for putting together Ikea furniture, Aeron Miller chairs etc they have one that focuses on that. I found that it wasn't an either/or situation but just both. This kit in this video isn't the most price-optimized but it's definitely weight/volume focused :D
@@ToySldr78 It was a Muji one. It's discontinued though I think. You can get something similar here: www.amazon.com/Travelon-Accessory-Organizer-Purple-Closed/dp/B0C2R54Z27/ref=sr_1_3? The Muji one looked like this: www.amazon.com/Polyester-suspended-removable-Approximately-02125691/dp/B07MKKXRWH?
The ones from the Steinwhale (theirs) are too short for anything except their own driver ^_^. The main reason to get the Steinwhale is mainly for the adapter.
@@Dracomies I have the regular Wera 813 and the steinwhale bits actually work pretty wellin it. I was just curious if they actually lock into the rapidaptor on the 813r.
It was made by Muji. I think it's discontinued but this is the closest: www.amazon.com/Polyester-suspended-removable-Approximately-02125691/dp/B07MKKXRWH
The Walker is too small for my hands. I always feared that it would slip away and tear into my hands when using the saw. The 91mm Vics and even the smaller Evo models offer much better grip for my hands.
If the task requires something much more hardcore with saw cutting I grab my Silky Pocketboy from my car. But I have no issues with the Walker, ie I used it for cutting branches and foliage.
Id have to disagree. Its all about your life, preference, and balance for what you are willing to carry on your person. I carry a knife, flashlight, and hank; but also a pouch that has small tools and first aid. I chose a pouch so I can easily remove it put it in a designated bag with tools and other bigger items I might need. So yeah, balance, preference, and versatility 👍
The unsung hero of this is the PBSwiss bit block, probably the best bit holder you can get IMO. I must have about 25 of them! 🤣
OMG you're right. I forgot to list it!! That's what's key to making things compact too! :D
You have such a great voice! Have you considered doing a podcast, or being on the radio?
The issue I have with flip sockets especially with that adaptor is that anything close to an obstruction you can’t get to. This is especially an issue on vehicles. You are not saving much, if any, space with the adaptor and three flip sockets versus six regular 1/4 drive sockets (and really 5 because who needs 7mm on the regular). One tool I have found that I have not seen anyone actually review is the matador flip screwdriver. It is, I think, similar to what comes in German cars but has the 8mm and 10mm sockets in the handle. Sadly not available in the US.
I think at that point I'd use the Knipex. It can tackle that situation but not as easily as with actual sockets. There are also 3 inch versions of the adapter because they're the same as Klein: www.amazon.com/dp/B09R2L4GFJ? I might be misunderstanding your statement - but I'm willing to bet a Knipex could do it
Pleased to note that if you like the color coding, Klein has a metric version of the flip sockets now. I normally consider the Knipex water pump pliers overkill and "fast fashion fad" for EDC because people often carry them with a multitool that has pliers or with a multitool without pliers to be "smaller" (but then add the big pliers!) But then I also consider "EDC" to be the stuff YOU carry on your person, not "in my truck" or whatever.
Even so, if you're building e.g. a car kit or a "go bag" of some sort where the tools are just one of many things you need to pack, but you don't want to be without them … the kit you've built using them seems like a good option! It's not a bad tool-quite the opposite actually-but most people showing them off have them to photograph and as pocket jewelry, which makes them kind of overhyped in a crowd of people who mostly aren't gonna use them. In the right context though it's hard to say you could find much better!
I have the Wiha double-ended bits. Annoying that you literally cannot get the bit reload for security screws on Amazon, nor currently is that Centrifix extension available. The SlimFix isn't quite deep enough to be a tight hold either unless you're prepared to drill it out a bit and install a magnet a little deeper. And I'm not. I'd recommend for a kit like I described that you skip the Wiha bits entirely and just use the ones from the Steinwhale kit. Possibly with the PBSwiss bit holder instead of the one that comes with the Steinwhale kit.
The Klein Metric just came out, which was clutch, and yep, I grabbed one! On Knipex, I disagree with the naysayers. $30 might seem steep for a tool, but it’s nothing compared to what people spend on EDC gear like pocket knives or prybars. In the mic world, $30 is a drop in the bucket! And honestly, the Knipex is just a killer tool. I’ve seen so many kits that could drop five tools just by adding a Knipex.
For most people, it covers the need for adjustable or open-ended wrenches-a better minimalist option than those tiny Crescents. A plumber even told me that a Knipex 125 or 180 could replace a whole socket set for general use.
So, TL;DR: $30 is worth it. My 6-inch Knipex handles all kinds of odd jobs and even outperforms Leatherman multitools (though I get the appeal of their versatility). Knipex is worth every penny.
And great call on the double-sided Wiha bits-I’ve gone back to the Wera Toolcheck Plus. I even keep it under my car seat now! It’s so handy, my hands just naturally go for it. I customized it by removing duplicates and bits I don’t use, and it’s now my go-to.
I think I may have found a better option than the Topeak ratchet to pair with the Steinwhale extender/bit kit. Check out the aluminum Titan 11317 swivel ratchet bit driver. The steel one weighs over 3 oz but the aluminum (colorful) versions weigh less than 2 oz.
I'll check it out. Video should be out tomm lol :D
@@Dracomies Ha!
@@Dracomies Apparently, there is a nano version too that is shorter (in steel). Model 11331. I don't have it.
@@ParkerBinion aha. I like the first one though. Seems like it'd be better for torque. The other one looks very tiny :P
@@Dracomies Agreed. BTW, the Steinwhale stubby double-sided bits fit directly into this swivel ratchet. Wiha double-sided do not - you'd need the Steinwhale extender.
Great EDC! It's great to see life differences shown in tools. I work with larger machinery so 180 sizes and Leatherman Charge is acceptable. As well as a Crunch for vice grips/replaceable saw. That ratchet is something I've never seen and looks great. Would be interested in seeing the torque it will take. A standard 10mm wrench reefing on it may break it. It may not be applicable to your needs so no stress. All in all very cool. Thank you for sharing.
Oh I agree with you 100%!! It’s super fun and interesting to watch everyone’s EDC kits. :D It does give you a glimpse into their lifestyle. As for the RocketLite DX. I saw it on a ton of bicycle videos but I like it a lot! I don’t know the extent of its limits but it does have a good amount of torque. Though I think for something hardcore it may not be able to handle it.
It's good to see that you're still adapting your kit. Never Stop : )
It does seem like there's a real dearth of compact EDC saws. I think Victorinox saws are great but I hesitate to use them because they don't feel disposable... and I wouldn't attempt cutting metal with them. I've seen some decent DIY jigsaw handles but none with integrated blade storage. Maybe I'm asking for too much.
I do have a Silky Pocketboy (yes it's a real name) :P in my car under the spare tire if I need to use it. To date I haven't had to use it in the past 4 years :D. I do use the Walker though actually :P
Oh I definitely don't cut metal. I can't recall ever cutting metal in my life :D But for the occasional blocks of wood or branches I like using Vic saws. But I think that's the realization on my end, I don't think I use saws, they're probably the least-used tool for me - which is why I like the Walker because it is the saw by itself in the 1 out of 878 chance I need to use one :P Rather than it being something forever connected to some clunky multitool that is lugging around weight for nothing :P
@@Dracomies Coincidentally found myself in need of a wood saw outside of my shop last night.
I ended up using a hacksaw blade (for metal) and a meat cleaver to get the job done. Despite how it sounds it turned out good : )
@@Dracomies I’m a big fan of the folding Japanese saws like the Silky. They fit well in my toolbox drawers. Not so much my other drawers (pants : )
yip the Silky is definitely not pocketable! :D But I remember I bought it back then because it was mowing through wood on a bunch of TH-cam vids :P@@user-zz8ln3uh5x
Nice kit. We hava a lot of the same stuff. I managed to get the victorinox Walker just as it was discontinued - a real shame... The Huntsman is great and has scissors too! Although it is quite heavy
I know right?!! The Victorinox Walker is so awesome!! I think people who prefer it may have been few and far between. But these days it's all about being minimalist, we freaking love this stuff!!
@@Dracomies The My First Victorinox has the same toolset as the Walker - but with the rounded blade and over twice the price.... The walker was the cheapest SAK with a saw....
Believe it or not a torx T40 actually work on the double sided sockets to an extent because I was wanting a shorter extension bit and didnt wanna spend 10 bucks for the 3 inch version of it
Which one did you buy. I want to check it out. :D
@@Dracomies I have both metric and SAE Klein's flip socket 7 to 14 and 1/4 to 9/16
@@Sr.Fluffioso oh wait I have that too! Well I had the Vaco and then I bought the Kleins too!
@@Dracomies I believe it works with either since they are the same designs
Klein makes a shorter adaptor that should work with the flip socket, they sell it on its own with the 1/4 and 5/16 flip socket
Ooh!! Can you send me a link of it or the name of it. That would be even better!
Found it! Looks like they have a 3 inch and a 5 inch version. I'll pick up the 3 inch one - though the 5 inch one is handy. Thank you for the heads-up! This makes it even more smoller! :D
@@Dracomies great! Hope It works with the bigger sockets. If it does, I'm sure we will see a update video👍🏼
Should be arriving tomorrow. I'll put a ping if it connects. But I do recall they are interchangeable. They're the same company. @@jasonrouah514
Looks like they do work but probably best not to line them on the stick but they are compatible: th-cam.com/video/tnYu4rEXo_s/w-d-xo.html @@jasonrouah514
If you like compact bits, look at wera 9506, and wera 9507
But don't those only about 4. At least with wiha doublesided bits it's everything, literally all of them.
@@Dracomiesyes but you can change two wiha with one wera (the allen 3/4/5/6)
The Tool Check Plus is awesome in concempt but - how many of those bits are worthy of an EDC? yeah you can swap 'em out sure but extras? ? /
Yeah I wish they didn't have so many duplicates. ie how many PHO, PH2 do I need :P I remember when I first built the kit, i removed the duplicates and replaced them with other bits.
Which version of the Wiha bit reload kit did you get? I think that a combination of the Technician, and Industrial offers the most sizes, but there will be a lot of duplicates. Sadly, Wiha no longer offers the bits individually, if they did, you could get the Technician set, and just buy the extra hex ones.
Both! But yes you get duplicates but I removed the duplicates, kept them in a small ziploc bag. If you value torx more for pocket knives and such one of them focuses on that. If you want the Hex for putting together Ikea furniture, Aeron Miller chairs etc they have one that focuses on that. I found that it wasn't an either/or situation but just both. This kit in this video isn't the most price-optimized but it's definitely weight/volume focused :D
@@Dracomies Nothing more frustrating than assembling Ikea furniture using only an L-Key.
What were screwdriver handle is that? You never covered it in the video.
Wera 813R. Make sure it has the R. www.amazon.com/Wera-05051272001-holder-quick-release-4x90mm/dp/B0015501A8
Is there a set of Wiha double sided bits that solely cover torx and another that covers hex? I can't seem to find that.
I found I had to buy both and remove the duplicates :P
@@Dracomiesgotcha, I ordered the other set off Amazon, good to go! Which bag do you use??
@@ToySldr78 It was a Muji one. It's discontinued though I think. You can get something similar here: www.amazon.com/Travelon-Accessory-Organizer-Purple-Closed/dp/B0C2R54Z27/ref=sr_1_3? The Muji one looked like this: www.amazon.com/Polyester-suspended-removable-Approximately-02125691/dp/B07MKKXRWH?
No sak rambler? 😊
In keychain :P
Will the Steinwhale double sided bits fit in the Wera 813r?
The ones from the Steinwhale (theirs) are too short for anything except their own driver ^_^. The main reason to get the Steinwhale is mainly for the adapter.
@@Dracomies I have the regular Wera 813 and the steinwhale bits actually work pretty wellin it. I was just curious if they actually lock into the rapidaptor on the 813r.
What pouch is this?
It was made by Muji. I think it's discontinued but this is the closest: www.amazon.com/Polyester-suspended-removable-Approximately-02125691/dp/B07MKKXRWH
@@Dracomies Thank you!
The Walker is too small for my hands. I always feared that it would slip away and tear into my hands when using the saw.
The 91mm Vics and even the smaller Evo models offer much better grip for my hands.
If the task requires something much more hardcore with saw cutting I grab my Silky Pocketboy from my car. But I have no issues with the Walker, ie I used it for cutting branches and foliage.
Cracking a 13 mm bolt loose with that tiny ratchet? It’s going to break for sure.
I think that's why I was told to get the Knipex 125. It can handle something like that.
If i need tools ill carry my toolkit that dont care about weight. tools aren't edc
Id have to disagree. Its all about your life, preference, and balance for what you are willing to carry on your person. I carry a knife, flashlight, and hank; but also a pouch that has small tools and first aid. I chose a pouch so I can easily remove it put it in a designated bag with tools and other bigger items I might need. So yeah, balance, preference, and versatility 👍