If any of you are wondering, my teammate is OK since his helmet absorbed most of the impact from the slash. Regardless of that fact, what the other guy did was disgraceful and not a hockey play it any way shape or form. Yes, my teammate body-checked him in a non-contact league, but that does not even come CLOSE to justifying a two-handed slash to the head... Hockey is an incredible sport, full of speed, skill and smarts. If you take a beer league game as seriously as some of the guys on my opponent's team do, then you really need to take a look in the mirror and think about why you're playing. Hockey is not a means to express your inner anger, it's a way to have fun, enjoy time and bond with friends and play a sport that you truly and passionately love. I desperately hope I never witness another incident like this again. It's a disgrace to the game and there is absolutely NO place in hockey for this kind of behaviour.
Because that is beyond dirty. I don’t care if he did body him in a non contact league when the other team has been checking all game. A slash to the head is not even close to trying to resolve the situation. Honestly if I was the commissioner I would ban that team out of the league because obviously they’re too competitive for a beer league. At least that guy needs to be banned if the team isn’t
USA hockey actually has a thread on their website where you can see the results of match penalties and how long they are suspended. You just have to be a registered for USA hockey as an official, player, or coach.
@@TDIHockey and youre actually pretty good which surprised me. Most beer league defenders suck when it comes to their positioning but hey its veer league. The guy ibusually pair with is pretty bad at that too but has a really good shot he was that kid not good enough for a forward so stepped back growing up. Oh well its beer league ! Y
Great videos! This is exactly why I stopped playing league hockey. Even in C/D divisions, teams stack their teams to win a cup that they cannot even keep. Not even a t-shirt! Felt like every week there were going to be scouts watching a C/D rec hockey league as if they were looking to recruit the next NHL star. People take it way too serious. I'm all about winning, and I'm very competitive, but we all have to work the next day so really, what's the point? After my last concussion which left me with fluid in my ear, loss of peripheral vision in my right eye and a headache for two weeks straight along with loss of concentration and focus, I called it quits in league.
You're right, absolutely no place in hockey, beer league or not, for this kind of behavior. Glad to hear your teammate is okay. Hopefully that garbage player gets booted from your league. Aside from that, at least we can take something good from this game: you scored! Congrats. Always love your videos.
Tim Bell this is why playing in any league other then professional level sucks you can’t play hockey without some psycho fuck getting pissed off even when someome gets tripped or hooked
gRaZ agree. That why I switched to full time officiating. Might as well get paid to manage these couch potato all stars. $45-55 for and hour of dropping pucks with left hand and raising left arm to call penalties. I’ve gotten to the point that after a call if the slightest chirp is made, 2 more for unsportsmanlike. Sit for 4 I don’t care. Games not getting out of hand and you’re wasting your money not playing.
Jesus Christ. That is by far the dirtiest thing I've ever seen in a beer league. Yeah, slashes happen - incidental contact throws your stick up, or overaggressive stick checking on the run, or whatever...but this is 100% intentional. On his feet, puck's at the other end of the ice (he's the one who dumped it), nobody near his body, and he took his stick over his shoulder two-handed and slashed down on a defenseless guy's head. Didn't even have the respect (or balls) to drop the gloves and go him if he had that much of a problem. If anyone deserves to be banned from an amateur league, it's this guy.
It’s interesting to see a game deteriorate like that. We’ve all played in games like that. You can just tell that the temperature is up a bit, guys are getting choppy and chirpy and making eye contact with each other. You can feel it.
TDI, just wanted to say thanks for organizing this upcoming EASHL tournament. Hopefully it'll be as exciting as the scrims have been so far! - APsychicTaco
This is the exact reason why myself and twenty other fellas decided 2 start our own Saturday morning skate. Just a bunch of good guys playing hard but no cheap stuff like this crap. Too many a holes in the beer leagues trying to live out their failed Sports careers.
This was the reason I quit playing in 2000 at the age of 30. Way too many dirtbags that wanted to hit slash and fight. Had enough of f That in Jr hockey.
@@TDIHockey I quit beer league at 48yo because of this stuff. I was playing against "kids" and had one too many things happen. Unfortunately, there's no viable over 40 where I live....
That nearly happened to me a number of years ago. I was in a position battle with a guy in front of my net. Whistle went as he gave me a whack on the shins, and I gave him one back. Done. His teammate saw my slash and turned around with full overhead swing. He missed, thank goodness and grazed my shoulder. Ref saw that and tossed the guy immediately.
Gotta love those guys that take beer league sports that seriously. Like they dont realize they're paying to play, and have to get up in the morning and go to their actual job lol
most non contact leagues get like this. more cheap shots are done in these types of leagues because they do not have to face the consequences for their action besides sitting in the sin bin for a few mins
Look I love when my beer league gets feisty and rough. However, slashing someone in the head should be a automatic ban for life. That's a criminal act and you should literally face jail time for that in my estimation. There is no excuse for that period.
USA Hockey Rule 620 - Head Contact Head Contact is the action of a player contacting an opponent in the head, face or neck with any part of the player's body, equipment or stick. (a) A minor plus a misconduct or major plus a game misconduct penalty shall be assessed for head contact to an opponent. (b) A major plus a game misconduct penalty shall be assessed to any player who injures an opponent as a result of head contact or who intentionally or recklessly contacts an opponent in the head, face or neck. (c) A match penalty for attempt to injure or deliberate injury to an opponent may also be assessed for head contact. I'm not sure if this is the same in Canada, but in the states he would've been gone.
Had this happen to me. I lined up against a kid from a farm team and he was chirping me right from the get go. I didn’t think anything about it there was 30 seconds left and we were up 3-1 so I didn’t want to start anything. Puck drops, kid trips me (whatever) I get up and go for the puck. I get the puck and he trips me again, no call again but i’m not bothered. The kid then picks up the puck and starts skating up he boards. He was half my size so I line him up and hit him shoulder on shoulder and knock him down. Ref blows the whistle for some unknown reason and I turn around to head to the bench. Kid sprints towards me and gives me a baseball swing smack to the side of my head shattering my bubble. (yes my team wore bubbles. And cracked the top of my helmet. I didn’t even turn around and headed to the bench. The kid ended up getting suspended for the rest of the season and I was forced to spend 500$ on a new helmet. What a joyous occasion.
Yeah, one of my teammates for soccer was elbowed in the head and given a concussion. He only got a yellow card but, my teammates parents had pressed charges for assault.
I see you finally scored your first career goal :) Jk nice snipe though Also that slash was the dirtiest thing since Todd Bertuzzi. Buddy should be kicked out of the league
LOL I haven't had too many goals, but this was probably my best one yet. Just saw the space open up in the slot and jumped in to take a great feed from my teammate for a wide open shot on net
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In my last 3 games I got slashed in the face twice (one with two hands) and got hit by deflection right in the teeth. Came from my teammate tho, but still, thinking about a cage.
If ur new to hockey, hockey is a dangerous sport because of the board checks (slamming someone into the boards) and stuff like that. The blue lines are like the center ice. You can't pass the line untill the puck goes first.
Im actually in the same league, (wednesday delesalle DMHL mid b) games arent usually this rough but damn crazy to see, we heard something like that happened but damn.
I know, my first game back, like my 3rd-4th shift, some idiot just slew foot/knee to knee'd me from behind on my injured knee. Luckily like a split second before, I removed all my weight off my injured foot so it barley hurt and didn't cause and injuries.
OneTimer that's fortunate. One year I was going full speed and someone stuck out there leg and it was knee on knee. Had sprained that same knee earlier in the year too so it was brutal. But like a dumbass I played on the bad knee and has caused me to have problems with it even to this day.
At least you play in a league that calls penalties. I took a two handed slash across my forearms a lot where I play and nothing ever gets called. So I police the game myself and give a harder slash back.
That forth goal was on u. U have to stay with ur guy in front and let the center pick up the guy with the puck. I couldn’t tell if it was the center that got beat but if so then let the guy with the puck walk in on his backhand while ur goalie is hugging the post
I also play in this league on a different team. When we played these guys it was the exact same thing, dirty players who take beer league way to serious...
That happened to me once. I followed the guy home and burnt his fucking house down later that evening. My nickname on the team is “Torch” if you were wondering.
It’s like how you never see people in baseball go after someone on the other team with a baseball bat. If you’re too afraid to throw hands that you have to use your stick then maybe hockey isn’t the game for you.
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If any of you are wondering, my teammate is OK since his helmet absorbed most of the impact from the slash. Regardless of that fact, what the other guy did was disgraceful and not a hockey play it any way shape or form. Yes, my teammate body-checked him in a non-contact league, but that does not even come CLOSE to justifying a two-handed slash to the head...
Hockey is an incredible sport, full of speed, skill and smarts. If you take a beer league game as seriously as some of the guys on my opponent's team do, then you really need to take a look in the mirror and think about why you're playing. Hockey is not a means to express your inner anger, it's a way to have fun, enjoy time and bond with friends and play a sport that you truly and passionately love.
I desperately hope I never witness another incident like this again. It's a disgrace to the game and there is absolutely NO place in hockey for this kind of behaviour.
Will you ever know what happens to the guy who slashed him?
Because that is beyond dirty. I don’t care if he did body him in a non contact league when the other team has been checking all game. A slash to the head is not even close to trying to resolve the situation. Honestly if I was the commissioner I would ban that team out of the league because obviously they’re too competitive for a beer league. At least that guy needs to be banned if the team isn’t
USA hockey actually has a thread on their website where you can see the results of match penalties and how long they are suspended. You just have to be a registered for USA hockey as an official, player, or coach.
Did they kick you out of the game as well? The video kinda ended abruptly.
Rocket Ryder they probably asked him to turn it off so they can have the footage to show to the league
5:30 IS THE SLASH🚨🚨🚨
Thanks bro
Thanks
ragzitoff _81 thx
#HERO
Thanks
Its nice seeing a youtuber who plays defense.
Ethan Johnson haha glad you like the different perspective!
@@TDIHockey and youre actually pretty good which surprised me. Most beer league defenders suck when it comes to their positioning but hey its veer league. The guy ibusually pair with is pretty bad at that too but has a really good shot he was that kid not good enough for a forward so stepped back growing up.
Oh well its beer league ! Y
Except he sucks at defense ha . 3 goals were his fault .
Ya I just noticed that he is the only defense you tuber that has at leas 15k
B H, who cares? It’s beer league. It’s supposed to be fun. Not highly competitive.
Great videos! This is exactly why I stopped playing league hockey. Even in C/D divisions, teams stack their teams to win a cup that they cannot even keep. Not even a t-shirt! Felt like every week there were going to be scouts watching a C/D rec hockey league as if they were looking to recruit the next NHL star. People take it way too serious. I'm all about winning, and I'm very competitive, but we all have to work the next day so really, what's the point? After my last concussion which left me with fluid in my ear, loss of peripheral vision in my right eye and a headache for two weeks straight along with loss of concentration and focus, I called it quits in league.
damn how can you even make play when both teams are wearing the same color jerseys
Now imagine being colorblind like me and playing in this game 😂
Long Bui confusion 24/7
TDI Hockey wow that crazy
Dark red vs light red
Burgundy and red aren’t the same colour
Looks like A 10 Game Suspension for Marchand
You're right, absolutely no place in hockey, beer league or not, for this kind of behavior. Glad to hear your teammate is okay. Hopefully that garbage player gets booted from your league. Aside from that, at least we can take something good from this game: you scored! Congrats. Always love your videos.
Wow, that was crazy. Hope he impressed all the scouts with that play.
He slashes then jumps on him lmao get a life
Jeremy Calder the coward probably tries to hold the fists of the person hes fighting. Where im from, we teach you a lesson after that cowardly slash.
seriously.hopefully they play them again and put him in a wheelchair
@@AtOmicInfamous or a two handed slash to the crotch, since someone with that stupidity shouldn't even be aloud to have kids.
@@willyt1170 guys like this get tough when they have a cage on.
That guy is a scumbag!
Seems to be a lot of altercations and dirty plays in your league
fun fact, the Fight in the Tunnel video was from a league different from this one. Just seems like all the beer leagues in my area are nuts 😂
Bunch of never was's not even has been's
Jim C I appreciate the Mighty Ducks reference 👌
Tim Bell this is why playing in any league other then professional level sucks you can’t play hockey without some psycho fuck getting pissed off even when someome gets tripped or hooked
gRaZ agree. That why I switched to full time officiating. Might as well get paid to manage these couch potato all stars. $45-55 for and hour of dropping pucks with left hand and raising left arm to call penalties. I’ve gotten to the point that after a call if the slightest chirp is made, 2 more for unsportsmanlike. Sit for 4 I don’t care. Games not getting out of hand and you’re wasting your money not playing.
Jesus Christ. That is by far the dirtiest thing I've ever seen in a beer league. Yeah, slashes happen - incidental contact throws your stick up, or overaggressive stick checking on the run, or whatever...but this is 100% intentional. On his feet, puck's at the other end of the ice (he's the one who dumped it), nobody near his body, and he took his stick over his shoulder two-handed and slashed down on a defenseless guy's head. Didn't even have the respect (or balls) to drop the gloves and go him if he had that much of a problem.
If anyone deserves to be banned from an amateur league, it's this guy.
Not just banned, but sued for assault (or something) as well
@@bostondangler134 man get a life
You don't watch a lot of beer league then
It’s interesting to see a game deteriorate like that. We’ve all played in games like that. You can just tell that the temperature is up a bit, guys are getting choppy and chirpy and making eye contact with each other. You can feel it.
Most TH-camrs keep there head down and look away from the action but you don’t, KEEP IT UP!! :)
TDI, just wanted to say thanks for organizing this upcoming EASHL tournament. Hopefully it'll be as exciting as the scrims have been so far!
- APsychicTaco
Hi Taco!
I didnt know duncan kieth played in your league. 🤣🤣
Anderson Malthaner Keith didn’t mean it against carter, you could tell the second his stick came up
Lol
Luke Christensen keith did it on purpose to coyle because he was pissed though just like the clown in the video
Anderson Malthaner cannot deny that one, pretty shitty one by duncs
I mean, Carter did chop at his bare hand. Not giving an excuse, just facts.
I like how you also show your own misplays. Some would only show themselves playing the good stuff. For the humbleness, have a like
This is the exact reason why myself and twenty other fellas decided 2 start our own Saturday morning skate. Just a bunch of good guys playing hard but no cheap stuff like this crap. Too many a holes in the beer leagues trying to live out their failed Sports careers.
Yeah honestly I can see myself just doing that when I'm older
This was the reason I quit playing in 2000 at the age of 30. Way too many dirtbags that wanted to hit slash and fight. Had enough of f
That in Jr hockey.
@@TDIHockey I quit beer league at 48yo because of this stuff. I was playing against "kids" and had one too many things happen. Unfortunately, there's no viable over 40 where I live....
3:15 bro what happened, literally handed it to him
It’s a cool video.. but if I played against someone wearing a go pro during a beer league game, I’d be roasting you all night
@mark Walsh I agree lol this shit is dumb as hell lmao
I’m a Zamboni driver and I just stopped by to say that is some beautiful- BEAUTIFUL looking ice. Got damn.
Funny part is the other team threw a couple checks early on in the game but you don't see any of your teammates getting up swinging for the fences
is that beer before or after the game.? damn savages
People that take beer league seriously 😀🤣 Just have fun out there boys, we all love hockey.
Del is a sick arena
Man I need to get in on this goon league action! teach these guys a lesson ;) We just won our Spring ship, literally just posted the video.
Rocket Ryder y do u always self advertise
You’re an idiot...
be nice!
Nobody gives a shit.
Dudes just trying to get some veiws calm the fuck down boys
That nearly happened to me a number of years ago. I was in a position battle with a guy in front of my net. Whistle went as he gave me a whack on the shins, and I gave him one back. Done.
His teammate saw my slash and turned around with full overhead swing. He missed, thank goodness and grazed my shoulder. Ref saw that and tossed the guy immediately.
Gotta love those guys that take beer league sports that seriously. Like they dont realize they're paying to play, and have to get up in the morning and go to their actual job lol
honestly what is this league
I asked myself the same question after this game..
most non contact leagues get like this. more cheap shots are done in these types of leagues because they do not have to face the consequences for their action besides sitting in the sin bin for a few mins
0:04 | You can hear someone yell, "OH SHIT!"
That give away at 3:15 won't go unnoticed though lol
Grandy mucking it up hahahaha
that kids gonna catch a few clappers in the near future lmao
prob your craziest vid yet
I love how dirty this league is
So what was assessed? A minor for body checking and a match (5 min. goes up on the board)?
Look I love when my beer league gets feisty and rough. However, slashing someone in the head should be a automatic ban for life. That's a criminal act and you should literally face jail time for that in my estimation. There is no excuse for that period.
USA Hockey Rule 620 - Head Contact
Head Contact is the action of a player contacting an opponent in the head, face or neck with any part of the player's body, equipment or stick.
(a) A minor plus a misconduct or major plus a game misconduct penalty shall be assessed for head contact to an opponent.
(b) A major plus a game misconduct penalty shall be assessed to any player who injures an opponent as a result of head contact or who intentionally or recklessly contacts an opponent in the head, face or neck.
(c) A match penalty for attempt to injure or deliberate injury to an opponent may also be assessed for head contact.
I'm not sure if this is the same in Canada, but in the states he would've been gone.
Always the guys with the full cages
A 2 hand slash to the head in a beer league should be a ban, regardless if it was retaliation for a hit. No room for players like that.
that’s beer league for ya
Had this happen to me. I lined up against a kid from a farm team and he was chirping me right from the get go. I didn’t think anything about it there was 30 seconds left and we were up 3-1 so I didn’t want to start anything. Puck drops, kid trips me (whatever) I get up and go for the puck. I get the puck and he trips me again, no call again but i’m not bothered. The kid then picks up the puck and starts skating up he boards. He was half my size so I line him up and hit him shoulder on shoulder and knock him down. Ref blows the whistle for some unknown reason and I turn around to head to the bench. Kid sprints towards me and gives me a baseball swing smack to the side of my head shattering my bubble. (yes my team wore bubbles. And cracked the top of my helmet. I didn’t even turn around and headed to the bench. The kid ended up getting suspended for the rest of the season and I was forced to spend 500$ on a new helmet. What a joyous occasion.
Doesn’t matter what game you play, there’s always one idiot that has to play like it’s the playoffs!
Yeah, one of my teammates for soccer was elbowed in the head and given a concussion. He only got a yellow card but, my teammates parents had pressed charges for assault.
Thank god the scouts were watching. I heard they’re giving the guy a look on a 2 way contract.
I love your beer league vids because there are actually fights and stuff the make the game more entertaining
I see you finally scored your first career goal :)
Jk nice snipe though
Also that slash was the dirtiest thing since Todd Bertuzzi. Buddy should be kicked out of the league
LOL I haven't had too many goals, but this was probably my best one yet. Just saw the space open up in the slot and jumped in to take a great feed from my teammate for a wide open shot on net
Is this league a full on non-contact league? From where I’m from it’s non checking but contact can be made like leaning and stuff
It's same as yours. What you're talking about is incidental contact which is ok, but the stuff that happened in this game was far from incidental lol
TDI Hockey mate, absolutely. I agree with you. No need for this in hockey or any sport in fact. Glad your team mates okay!
16 is a fkn plug, if I was there and saw that, that man would be in the hospital
Wow, all these guys still living the dream. Let it go
TieDown18 playing hockey? Why? If they can still play, who gives a fuck. They are all aware they aren’t playing in the NHL. It’s called for fun
Wow, that is absolutely wild, I can’t believe this guy did that. I’ve been butt ended in the throat a couple times but nothing as crazy as this
Hey I am from the same area and did you ever report the guy to the ASHL? The S is supposed to stand for "Safe"
Is that a NoName stick i see? i belive so, do you have a review on it?
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In my last 3 games I got slashed in the face twice (one with two hands) and got hit by deflection right in the teeth. Came from my teammate tho, but still, thinking about a cage.
Some Body Definitely pick one up, it's not worth the trouble and all the potential medical and dental issues you could face
dont even stoop that low. cages are for girls and cowards
Looks like there's a lumberjack on the ice. That was absolutely savage in the worst way. Disgusting.
What position do you play
your boss Right Defense!
That’s going to sting for a while. You did a good job playing peacemaker
3:16. Awesome giveaway brother! 😂😂😂
What stick do you use
after he got slashed. what was the guy doing on top of him? was it a accident and he was seeing if hes okay?
I'm not sure, but it kind of looks like he jumped on him and wanted to pummel my teammate while he was down..
That's assault brotha
I didn't know McSorley was part of this league...
Is this hockey rink by De Le Salle college
If ur new to hockey, hockey is a dangerous sport because of the board checks (slamming someone into the boards) and stuff like that. The blue lines are like the center ice. You can't pass the line untill the puck goes first.
the slow-mo was lol
😂 I’m sorry that was dirty but their reactions in slow motion
You gotta protect your crease brother. Move those guys outta there asap.
Idk how you handled your cool I woulda lost my shit
Classic D level hockey
I'd call that a birdcage before a face lol
Good clean checks
Was the player from the other team covering him
This is like the McSorely and Bertuzzi incidents combined
this is when you take the game to the parking lot
At least your buddy is ok. I mean the title gave you 100k plus views right there. Lmao
Im actually in the same league, (wednesday delesalle DMHL mid b) games arent usually this rough but damn crazy to see, we heard something like that happened but damn.
Is it just the camera or is the rink smaller than nhl size?
Nah the rink is definitely not NHL size. This one isn't as wide for sure
5:03 almost took your legs out
yep, glad someone caught that lol. narrowly avoided that one!
I have a knee injury (2 to be exact but on the same knee) and people always try to take my knee out so I am aware of things like that
OneTimer honestly, knee injuries are scary as hell. I've had probably 4 or 5 and 1 really bad one. Hate seeing people go for the knees.
I know, my first game back, like my 3rd-4th shift, some idiot just slew foot/knee to knee'd me from behind on my injured knee. Luckily like a split second before, I removed all my weight off my injured foot so it barley hurt and didn't cause and injuries.
OneTimer that's fortunate. One year I was going full speed and someone stuck out there leg and it was knee on knee. Had sprained that same knee earlier in the year too so it was brutal. But like a dumbass I played on the bad knee and has caused me to have problems with it even to this day.
At least you play in a league that calls penalties. I took a two handed slash across my forearms a lot where I play and nothing ever gets called. So I police the game myself and give a harder slash back.
Clean play
Wow that’s some chippy hockey. I’d be scrapping for sure
that must have hurt a lot
Your ohhhhh after that slash was highly exaggerated lol... and you guys are straight dust
Of course it is the smallest guy on the ice.
The dude's favorite player is probably Marty McSorley
What are the rink dimensions?
great video, bud!
Mitchell G thanks dude!
Ya do choose yer teams eh bud! Haha
Fights in the hallway slashing to the head haha
Reminds me of a dude in my area. He's legit been banned from half a dozen beer leagues for bullshit just like this.
5:49 you’re welcome
Doin' the Lord's work.
I just realized I’ve played hockey in that rink
Everyone there said that "you sucked, worst bench warmer ever". So they said......
Reds vs reds, interesting choice of colors.
That forth goal was on u. U have to stay with ur guy in front and let the center pick up the guy with the puck. I couldn’t tell if it was the center that got beat but if so then let the guy with the puck walk in on his backhand while ur goalie is hugging the post
Easier to say... and he also said it was his bad.
True he did say it was his bad
The first goal was his fault also he was puck watching and didn’t pick up his guy
And honestly the second one was on him that was a awe full turnover
That might have been the most dirtiest thing I’ve seen in hockey.
Good game red, way to beat red.
I also play in this league on a different team. When we played these guys it was the exact same thing, dirty players who take beer league way to serious...
That happened to me once. I followed the guy home and burnt his fucking house down later that evening. My nickname on the team is “Torch” if you were wondering.
Before watching this video ima say you better fuck em up
Lol if I get 2 hand slashed to the head in a game of beer league hockey I'm pressing charges
It’s like how you never see people in baseball go after someone on the other team with a baseball bat. If you’re too afraid to throw hands that you have to use your stick then maybe hockey isn’t the game for you.
Y’all wild
What beer league in the GTA is this? I am definitely avoiding...