Mindscape 163 | Nigel Goldenfeld on Phase Transitions, Criticality, and Biology

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    Physics is extremely good at describing simple systems with relatively few moving parts. Sadly, the world is not like that; many phenomena of interest are complex, with multiple interacting parts and interesting things happening at multiple scales of length and time. One area where the techniques of physics overlap with the multi-scale property of complex systems is in the study of phase transitions, when a composite system transitions from one phase to another. Nigel Goldenfeld has made important contributions to the study of phase transitions in their own right (and mathematical techniques for dealing with them), and has also been successful at leveraging that understanding to study biological systems, from the genetic code to the tree of life.
    Nigel Goldenfeld received his Ph.D. in physics from the University of Cambridge. He currently holds the Chancellor's Distinguished Professorship in Physics at UC San Diego. Until recently he was a Swanlund Endowed Chair and Center for Advanced Study Professor in Physics at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. Among his awards are the Xerox Award for research, the A. Nordsieck award for excellence in graduate teaching, and the American Physical Society’s Leo P. Kadanoff Prize. He is the co-founder of NumeriX, a company that specializes in high-performance software for the derivatives marketplace.
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  • @samig9032
    @samig9032 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is the best episode you’ve done, Sean! Precise questions and clear answers, all while tying together observations of phenomena from different fields to get at a deeper question about the behavior of the universe. Thanks for continuing to give us this podcast.

  • @saavestro2154
    @saavestro2154 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    00:00:00 Introduction
    00:08:20 Phase transitions, Ising model, critical temperature
    00:17:40 Renormalization group, correlation length
    00:23:25 Radiation theory of Feynman, Schwinger, and Tomanaga
    00:26:00 Infinities in phase transitions
    00:28:24 Critical phenomena
    00:30:46 Scale invariance
    00:33:47 The puzzle in turbulent flows
    00:39:10 Directed percolation
    00:44:19 Universality classes
    00:46:50 Critical points, predator-prey model
    00:54:33 Why we find scale-free behavior in nature?
    00:57:42 Phylogenetic trees, evolution, large scale interference
    01:04:46 Tuning parameters to a critical point
    01:05:52 Universality hinders predictability, the neutral model of ecology
    01:11:00 How robust is life? At what speed life evolved?
    01:17:05 Evolution is a phase transition
    01:19:34 Design of the genetic code
    01:27:47 Interdisciplinary research
    01:29:58 Final comments

    • @anieldev
      @anieldev 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      _faith in humanity renormalized._

    • @parthasarker6121
      @parthasarker6121 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Saavestro Thanks. May you live long and prosper

    • @PedroTricking
      @PedroTricking 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Saavestro
      God exists and it's you

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  • @rbee6507
    @rbee6507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely amazing episode. Thank you to both of you for this. Nigel's take on the purposeful reason for "life" in it's most non-egoist form was very mind opening and greatly appreciated in terms of, at the least, a basic understanding of all the wonder around us.
    Thank you so much for this Pod, once again Sean. You are an absolute treasure and credit to the human race, along with all your peers. I hope to live long enough to see a day where society is guided by the wisdom and knowledge you've all selflessly dedicated to not only discovering, but communicating to the masses in a way that those less gifted can comprehend if they just take the time to grow.

  • @dusanvuckovic17
    @dusanvuckovic17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    this one was above my pay grade. I appreciate it but at times I felt like I was Charlie Brown and you guys were the teacher. I tried, I really did.

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the beauty of it is you can replay it. over n over n over till ssslllloooooosh!!! yer brains on the walls.

  • @letsif
    @letsif 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I was young and occupied by failing performance throughout grade school and beyond, I longed for something that would actually stimulate my innate curiosity about things.in a way that met my true potential. I had to wait until I was older and out of the prison that was grade school, to begin the real learning process on my own. Something that would actually stimulate my imagination to a level that satisfied my intellectual capabilities. Sean, you're podcasts give me the kind of content that would have given me that spark which could have satisfied my younger self to succeed. Thanks

  • @DudokX
    @DudokX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've never expected that listening to physics podcast will help me make a better coffee in the morning :)

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      it helps with the sex life as well, now i'm dating women who wear glasses. mmmm.

  • @rbee6507
    @rbee6507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After hearing this episode, and Nigel saying, " I'm not really very smart...", I now question if I even know how to humble myself. Thank you for another of many existential crisis' Mr. Goldenfeld! 😂

  • @dajandroid
    @dajandroid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your guests meet my interests and present at my needed level of expertise almost every time Sean. Thank you!

  • @kagannasuhbeyoglu
    @kagannasuhbeyoglu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You make great topics. Thanks a lot dear Sean Carroll👍

  • @rumraket38
    @rumraket38 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of your most interesting podcasts ever imo.

  • @akumar7366
    @akumar7366 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Super brilliant discussion.

  • @rajeevgangal542
    @rajeevgangal542 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The latest podcast on emergence with Seth seems very pertinent to me in talking about phase transitions.

  • @donovan665
    @donovan665 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely loved every single word, all the subjects that interest me in one go...Brilliant!

  • @deepbayes6808
    @deepbayes6808 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoyed this talk.

  • @martinds4895
    @martinds4895 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great episode, as always. Thanks Sean.

  • @moralboundaries1
    @moralboundaries1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is renormalization basically replacing infinite term stuff with real world experimental values, or only using n terms, etc?

  • @BIGWUNuvDbunch
    @BIGWUNuvDbunch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great interview

  • @adizmal
    @adizmal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Issues of scale (power law etc) are pretty much *the* elephant in the room of critical issues, scientifically and maybe even metaphysically or ontologically, in my opinion. How the micro bleeds into the macro, how it all somehow fits together. With our limited perspectives as people, we only see a thin strip of a spectrum in pretty much any system; tough to see past that often with our ways of thinking, or being small, or not living long to see things change over longer periods of time, etc.

    • @PedroTricking
      @PedroTricking 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why ontology? For mereological reasons?

    • @adizmal
      @adizmal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PedroTricking Yeah pretty much.

  • @andresehnem
    @andresehnem 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It seems Sean is videocalling Nigel. I wonder if Sean could actually videorecord the talks to update in TH-cam, in a way that the interviwed person could show us some auxiliary slides, pictures, animations... Anyone else would love to see it? During exciting talks like this one, we always want to have more.

  • @LeeLightfoot
    @LeeLightfoot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This and your David Wallace exchange!!!

  • @LEDewey_MD
    @LEDewey_MD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating tapestry of discussion! The biological part reminded me of the book, “The Vital Question: Energy, Evolution, and the Origins of Complex Life “, by Dr. Nick Lane, (biochemist who leads the Origins of Life program at University College London. Hey! Maybe you could interview him!) You might want to check the book out yourself! It covers many science topics with lively discussion. Thanks again for the great interview.

  • @nowhereman8374
    @nowhereman8374 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr Goldenfield asserted the evolution of the ribosome was the critical step in the evolution of life. Endosymbiosis, a very special type of horizontal gene transfer is a close second. Didn't happen a long time after the evolution of the ribosome?

  • @uninspired3583
    @uninspired3583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People love their pseudoscience, its so refreshing sometimes to step away from all that and just talk about something that's actually demonstrable.
    Thank you

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      @stiantrondsen7770 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @xayoribangs2449
    @xayoribangs2449 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this podcast seems incredibly profound while also requiring a lot of attention, hah

  • @nowhereman8374
    @nowhereman8374 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where was Dr. Goldenfeld when I was a junior in Chemical Engineering (1980)?

    • @RonVolkovinsky
      @RonVolkovinsky 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As a current junior in chemical engineering, the discussion of turbulent flow in pipes was really interesting, but I found the lack of empirical correlations disturbing😂

    • @nowhereman8374
      @nowhereman8374 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RonVolkovinsky What I loved was Dr. Goldenfeld actually explained why one of my fluid flow lab experiments didn't work very well, lol

  • @user-wu8yq1rb9t
    @user-wu8yq1rb9t 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Professor Carroll, I'm still waiting for your program about professor Weinberg

  • @user-wu8yq1rb9t
    @user-wu8yq1rb9t 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes ...... First!
    I'm your big big Fan professor Carroll

  • @LaukkuBah
    @LaukkuBah 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've seen faces in water, that much I understood

  • @tommygrandefors9691
    @tommygrandefors9691 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who can say no to listen to an intelligent discussion? Only idiots. 😄 Love this. Thank you Sean. 👍

  • @m.walther6434
    @m.walther6434 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting topic but lousy acoustic. A pity.

  • @thepaladin48
    @thepaladin48 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How would you rate peloton bikes in their "eats your children" ability?

  • @HarryNicNicholas
    @HarryNicNicholas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i just rushed over from rationality rules cos i think i just solved one of the biggest questions you can ask: why something rather than nothing??
    how about this, there was nothing. once upon a time there was nothing in OUR universe, the universe we now inhabit. but somewhere else there was something, then for whatever reason, big bang!! now there is a universe with nothing in it, and us. glue that to penrose CCC - problem solved. there was nothing, the something was somewhere else, they swap places.

    • @uninspired3583
      @uninspired3583 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      RR is a great channel. Careful with your hypothesis though, someone might use it to justify their favorite deity.
      There are some interesting topics here though. Consider a wave in the ocean, the individual particles of water shift up and down but don't move significantly. But the wave moves. The wave then is an emergent description of what the particles are doing.
      If I understand things correctly, matter is much the same. The field doesn't move, it just changes value as a particle "moves" through it.
      If a particle is a value that propagates through a field, then in an ontological sense as we move through space we are something different than what we were moments before.
      Kind of like a quantum scale ship of theseus.
      I could be wrong about that, please feel free to correct if I've misunderstood