Now imagine getting the Zeus/Hera Duo Boon just before you meet Echo and get "Pom... Pom... Pom...". That would be beyond ludicrously absurd! That massive level boost from King's Ransom or Queen's Ransom combined with doubling boon levels would be going EVEN FURTHER BEYOND into supremely overpowered galaxy-brain craziness!
I'm happy with many of the changes. But I feel like some boons are still underwhelming. Zeus "blitz" just doesn't feel good to use IMO. They never improve it.
Agreed, i feel like some gods could use some more adjustments. If you want a tip for how to play blitz, throw it on moros special and go to town. Almost immediately procs.
@@l.n.3372 ey thats fair brother, took me a bit to get used to em. Have fun with the new and improved pan aspect, innate hook knives is going to go crazy
@Boat3d your comment seems to imply that you don't find most of the weapons in this game very fun. Just out of curiosity, why do you think that, and what would you change about them?
@@malikhittam1440 moros is good, charon is good, medea is good, staff is too hammer reliant and special is bad, daggers are too slow and leave you open constantly special does nothing, eos and mel torch do NO damage special does even less, axe was good now its fine and special is this awkward niche at best, ranged skulls travel too slow and picking them up with the delay is annoying
@Boat3d I agree with some of your points. From what I can see, you have a very "speedrunner" perspective on this game, which is totally fair. I do think they will almost definitely touch up the aspects in future updates, and they've been doing a pretty good job of listening to feedback so far, so let's hope for the best. I do think some of the aspects, while being really unique, aren't very fun e.g Eos, Momus, Circe. But some aspects like persephone and thanatos are really fun if you're not going fast or doing really high fear. But hey, I think the new weapon is gonna make sure you don't miss the axe too much, since it has its own block + retaliate mechanic. Playing with it so far, the block feels very similar to the shield from hades 1, although you can't hold it for that long
Why did they remove the block from the axe?! I don't understand their logic. Shield in Hades 1 was an entire weapon that blocks. Why take it away from axe here??
Oh dear. Benefits Package from the first game came back as Vow of Fangs... can't wait for hordes of skulls with superspeed and linked-lasers to melt my face again lmao
When I saw the Moonstone Axe lost the block I knew they were nerfing you specifically! You made the game look too easy. Olympus, Prometheus, and the new weapon are awesome. I don't love the aspects for it, but the weapon itself is just *chef's kiss*. The Hephaestus sprint is awful, so now he has literally 0 damage options, but that's fine. So far Poseidon special on the new weapon with a couple of the special hammers worked well for me, alongside chain-lightning. But even then Prometheus hurts.
only managed to beat Prometheus twice after 7 hours, one time with a broken build, the other with a weird boon from Dionysus (that one where he makes your HP invisible) I never died with that boon even after taking 250 damage from Prometheus. Probably bugged? Dunno.
@@sirmowmow3790 it's kinda hard to set up, I tried it again and wasn't lucky. mel staff/Persephone skull + lucid gain + any cast boon + geyser sprout (this is already a solid build) the broken part is getting dark side from selene and upgrading till you get sanctity (the skill lets your Cast have the same effect as your Ω Cast during your hex) so with all that, basically during your hex you are impervious and you don't need to channel your omega casts (from sanctity) and it immediately detonates (geyser sprout) so you're effectively spamming them.
So… the omega special doesn’t have the hook knives effect which really sucks. And the speed of the hook knives are abysmal. I honestly, think it’s very weak I tried 12 fear on a fully upgraded pan and it was very slow, like I can’t clear as fast as it was before. I mean you really can’t spam the new hook knives it’s pretty weak.
@@dodang_9147 Basic special is never the best option even in early like you really can’t kill the elite enemies. I tried and time just ran out just because the animation is slow as hell and the damage of the backstab is lower than the base damage which makes no sense at all. If they ever make it take effect during omegas then it might redeem at least 60-80% of what it was back then. Also back then what made it so deadly is it double procs poseidon special proc so it’s literally double damage, now it doesn’t do that so it’s really bad.
@@celestialspark5697 I mean I never said it dealt double damage but I just don’t like that it doesn’t proc special damage buffs like it used to and yes the piercing is also in effect there. I just hate that it’s slow, it’s more of a boomerang now rather than a dagger.
@@celestialspark5697 Well in that we 100% agree with pan is downright horrible and also artemis, the fact that you really can’t play high fear with parry and without the slow down time it’s already feeling like daggers are the weakest in this meta.
imo, its not super good. the sorceress choice sucks, heartht throbs are so nerfed to the ground that sunny dispo needs to be replaced, charon is useless. and prometheus is very hard, but fun. IDK maybe it will grow on me but some of the balancing needs work. The blades change is lit tho. or maybe im just skill issued
i took a sunny disp. charon build to Olympus, all standard stuff just with explosive intent to proc hearthrobs off a single slam, and it still cleared very easily at a decent amount of fear. the weapon's still strong and the build still functions, but with how slow the new slam is and the lack of block it definitely feels a lot more glass cannon-y. thankfully, vow of suffering is gone, so it should still be somewhat viable.
the promotheus fight is insane. the new region is insanely difficult as well
I barely beat him the first two times (on zero fear). Had over 300 health and lost 4 death defiances the first time. He really deserved the win.
Now imagine getting the Zeus/Hera Duo Boon just before you meet Echo and get "Pom... Pom... Pom...". That would be beyond ludicrously absurd! That massive level boost from King's Ransom or Queen's Ransom combined with doubling boon levels would be going EVEN FURTHER BEYOND into supremely overpowered galaxy-brain craziness!
Ah yes, a lvl 78 Zeus attack, fairly balanced
I'm happy with many of the changes. But I feel like some boons are still underwhelming. Zeus "blitz" just doesn't feel good to use IMO. They never improve it.
Agreed, i feel like some gods could use some more adjustments. If you want a tip for how to play blitz, throw it on moros special and go to town. Almost immediately procs.
I agree many more changes they could’ve made, hopefully we will see some soon
@austin_5324
I don't like the torches xD my favorite weapons to use are the staff, Pan daggers, and Charon axe.
@@Boat3d
It seems like they never adjust blitz so maybe they think it's good as is? But I think it's so underwhelming that I never pick it.
@@l.n.3372 ey thats fair brother, took me a bit to get used to em. Have fun with the new and improved pan aspect, innate hook knives is going to go crazy
2:28 They saw Bloated's 55 fear run with all the blocking and were like NAHHHH
Truly a sad day
My first reaction seeing they removed the guard from Axe was straight up "oh no they nerfed my man bloat"
I’ll be fine, sad because it was one of the few weapons that felt fun
@Boat3d your comment seems to imply that you don't find most of the weapons in this game very fun.
Just out of curiosity, why do you think that, and what would you change about them?
@@malikhittam1440 moros is good, charon is good, medea is good, staff is too hammer reliant and special is bad, daggers are too slow and leave you open constantly special does nothing, eos and mel torch do NO damage special does even less, axe was good now its fine and special is this awkward niche at best, ranged skulls travel too slow and picking them up with the delay is annoying
@Boat3d I agree with some of your points. From what I can see, you have a very "speedrunner" perspective on this game, which is totally fair. I do think they will almost definitely touch up the aspects in future updates, and they've been doing a pretty good job of listening to feedback so far, so let's hope for the best.
I do think some of the aspects, while being really unique, aren't very fun e.g Eos, Momus, Circe. But some aspects like persephone and thanatos are really fun if you're not going fast or doing really high fear.
But hey, I think the new weapon is gonna make sure you don't miss the axe too much, since it has its own block + retaliate mechanic. Playing with it so far, the block feels very similar to the shield from hades 1, although you can't hold it for that long
Yooo super excited. RIP moonstone though, hopefully the new weapon makes up for that change. Looking forward to future videos!
It better!!
Why did they remove the block from the axe?! I don't understand their logic. Shield in Hades 1 was an entire weapon that blocks. Why take it away from axe here??
@@l.n.3372it's on the new weapon now
@@RubberGamesHD
Blocking? But I used the new weapon and I don't remember it having the ability to block
@@l.n.3372 it blocks when charging your omega attack!
I hope the block is made into an aspect. I got so used to it.
It just has the best flow of almost any weapon in any roguelike. Even if it’s a bit op I enjoy having such a high skill ceiling
It was definitely overtuned, but deleting outright was the worst possible decision
Oh dear. Benefits Package from the first game came back as Vow of Fangs... can't wait for hordes of skulls with superspeed and linked-lasers to melt my face again lmao
Exciting !
I was actually waiting for your upload. I knew it was going to be good with the new weapon.
Hook Knives being added to the weapon by default is CRAZY. Im so excited to play Pan now
Yeah sadly it doesn’t do anything to pan
Oooooo damn it
@@celestialspark5697 That sounds like it could be a mistake, since it makes Pan actively worse. I kinda hope it gets patched eventually
@@Boat3d it might not have helped Pan but flick knives feels pretty good now
Just want my new critters, gonna find those buggers after work
Excited for them as well !
Oh my goodness it's finally here!
F I N N A L L Y
thought about you when i read the axe patch notes and sighed
Supergiant don’t seem to like me very much
the new region and boss are so difficult! I've done the whole 32 fear thing and even on fear 0 it was quite difficult
Can’t wait
Thanks for the breakdown Mr. Goated.
Anytime mr cnnr1125
When I saw the Moonstone Axe lost the block I knew they were nerfing you specifically! You made the game look too easy. Olympus, Prometheus, and the new weapon are awesome. I don't love the aspects for it, but the weapon itself is just *chef's kiss*. The Hephaestus sprint is awful, so now he has literally 0 damage options, but that's fine. So far Poseidon special on the new weapon with a couple of the special hammers worked well for me, alongside chain-lightning. But even then Prometheus hurts.
Interesting
@@Boat3d YMMV on higher fear though, Prom is kicking my ass on low fear rn, but I'm learning his moves.
only managed to beat Prometheus twice after 7 hours, one time with a broken build, the other with a weird boon from Dionysus (that one where he makes your HP invisible) I never died with that boon even after taking 250 damage from Prometheus. Probably bugged? Dunno.
what was the broken build?
@@sirmowmow3790 it's kinda hard to set up, I tried it again and wasn't lucky.
mel staff/Persephone skull + lucid gain + any cast boon + geyser sprout (this is already a solid build)
the broken part is getting dark side from selene and upgrading till you get sanctity (the skill lets your Cast have the same effect as your Ω Cast during your hex)
so with all that, basically during your hex you are impervious and you don't need to channel your omega casts (from sanctity) and it immediately detonates (geyser sprout) so you're effectively spamming them.
@@PocketEden got the build and beat him thx
Ouuu
Oh we back
Yes sir
SO HYPE FOR THIS
Me three squeegs
Heartthrob nerfed let's gooo. Excited to all the new content :D
Me 4
Let’s gooooo!!
Lets
what do you think of the new aspect? :o
Haven’t got a chance to play yet
@@Boat3d if you try it have fun :> and I expect a 50 fear run with it haha jk
Zeus got hit wayyyyyyy too hard in this patch
They’re taking everything from us
@@Boat3d No buffs to really compensate 😭
@@D0verking69 tragic
RIP Ax block. They nerfed a lot of your best tricks this patch ngl.
We will have to find more !
HELL yeah
Yes
They HAD to have nerfed the damage of dagger special, right? There's no way it just got hook knives and didn't lose damage?
We shall see
So… the omega special doesn’t have the hook knives effect which really sucks. And the speed of the hook knives are abysmal. I honestly, think it’s very weak I tried 12 fear on a fully upgraded pan and it was very slow, like I can’t clear as fast as it was before. I mean you really can’t spam the new hook knives it’s pretty weak.
@@dodang_9147 Basic special is never the best option even in early like you really can’t kill the elite enemies. I tried and time just ran out just because the animation is slow as hell and the damage of the backstab is lower than the base damage which makes no sense at all. If they ever make it take effect during omegas then it might redeem at least 60-80% of what it was back then. Also back then what made it so deadly is it double procs poseidon special proc so it’s literally double damage, now it doesn’t do that so it’s really bad.
@@celestialspark5697 I mean I never said it dealt double damage but I just don’t like that it doesn’t proc special damage buffs like it used to and yes the piercing is also in effect there. I just hate that it’s slow, it’s more of a boomerang now rather than a dagger.
@@celestialspark5697 Well in that we 100% agree with pan is downright horrible and also artemis, the fact that you really can’t play high fear with parry and without the slow down time it’s already feeling like daggers are the weakest in this meta.
Hey Lil bro, whats poppin.
Who tf u calling lil bro lil bro
@@Boat3d You forgot a comma and a period, lil bro.
@@Boat3d What do you want to be called? BBG?
I know you missed my comments (jk) but i think they cooked with this patch note
If you’re commenting and I’m not replying it’s because TH-cam isn’t displaying them to me
imo, its not super good. the sorceress choice sucks, heartht throbs are so nerfed to the ground that sunny dispo needs to be replaced, charon is useless. and prometheus is very hard, but fun. IDK maybe it will grow on me but some of the balancing needs work. The blades change is lit tho. or maybe im just skill issued
i took a sunny disp. charon build to Olympus, all standard stuff just with explosive intent to proc hearthrobs off a single slam, and it still cleared very easily at a decent amount of fear. the weapon's still strong and the build still functions, but with how slow the new slam is and the lack of block it definitely feels a lot more glass cannon-y. thankfully, vow of suffering is gone, so it should still be somewhat viable.
@@calliope-greii yeah, i have adjusted a bit, but it kinda feels like i dont have any strong builds im comfortable with anymore
Give it some time and hopefully some minor updates !
@@celestialspark5697 glad heartthrobs are gone and i agree with sorc changes charge speed is awesome time slow was wack
wow, what's with this clickbait. Making me think they put Dio in the game
They did?
@@ivanniothemannio no clickbait. Can confirm, they show up in the new biome
@@austin_5324 I am make joke
@@ivanniothemannio my mimstake. Carry on mr sir
Good one 🤠