Subaru BRZ update? Well, I bought a Lotus Elise
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ค. 2024
- While my Subaru BRZ track car is still having its engine gremlins reworked, I've decided to up the game a little and get something that's hopefully going to hold up better on the track.
So, I ended up buying a 2005 Lotus Elise.
0:00 Introduction and walkaround
5:09 First driving impressions - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
I bought my 2005 Elise in 2017 and have been enjoying it ever since.
They're great cars and there isn't much out there other than the Alfa 4C that comes close. Heck, I've seen plenty of them being used as daily drivers in the UK when I lived there.
I'll have to do a bit of work on it over the winter, but I can't wait for autocross and track season to come around.
Thank you! I've always like the looks of the 4C and got very close to buying one a few years ago. One of these days...
@@garagemoneypit for a bit i thought video title implied you swaped flat 4 into lotus
Congratulations on the Lotus Elise! Can't wait to own one myself. Love the color and it looks great even in stock form!
Thanks so much!
Enjoyed the ride along... thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I went exactly the same way - from a GT86! You won't regret it.
I do full day drives in mine and love the sound. No stereo, no AC, no top. Only on sunny days though. Top handling on the twisty roads of NZ.
Absolutely bonkers car. Love it!
As an S2000 owner, I am delighted to see that another car company adopted the stupid method of putting in the key, turn it, and then press a button to start it, option.
One or the other guys!
Very much agree with the "one or the other". What amused me is that Lotus very likely kept the Toyota steering lock or wherever else they sourced it from, so the steering lock also has a "start" position, which does, well, nothing.
Great post!
Thank you!
I am feeling better and better about buying my 2009 Elise SC new. Drove it yesterday on the road: temp in the 60s (F, duh) on freeway and then on one of the most technical and fun public roads in the area. It has sweeping curves; hairpin corners; tight, elevation change esses; 90 mph straights between corners; off-camber tricky down hill curves (the car gets lighter - be careful!).
With dense air and a relatively new air filter, it is a treat. Hope mine continues to hold its value or better.
Have a deposit on an Emira with 4 cylinder twin turbo dual clutch. Wondering if I really want that? 1000 pounds heavier with only an extra 142 BHP. I have time though, since Lotus now says I can't get one in my garage until 2024.
Stick with the Elise.
Man, I’m almost in the same boat. Bought my SC Elise in 08 and want the Emira but worried about the weight…without being able to test drive not sure what to do but put my faith in Lotus. Either way, I’m not giving up my Elise. Not sure about your 4cyl decision, I refuse to go paddles!! Hope ya get her soon so you can give my your Elise v Emira viewpoint!
@@madguppy2 I chose the 4 cylinder / dual clutch automatic so my wife could drive it. She is jealous of my Elise SC and calls it "hornita," (spanglish for "little horny one). She says it's my "mistress."
Like you, I have no plans to surrender the Elise.
14 months owning an Elise. Every car sucks driving after you have one
Yea I found that. I drove mine as my only car for most of lockdown and now everything feels like it has wobbly steering and a slow throttle response.
"..or I'm not hitting the brake hard enough" - Bingo :) I thought this too at first, but when you need to heel-toe, you'll find the pedal is quite right. At least in the S2 111S.
I guess I'll have to take it to an autocross then and find out :). It certainly didn't feel like I would want to hit the brakes that hard on the street.
Nice decision! I would do the same
When I experienced squeaking like that, I found that I had to lubricate the cable as it exited the sheath/bracket at the transmission side.
Thanks, I'll have a look at that if/when I actually find some time to work on it.
You better to learn to live with squeaks and rattles…it’s how she talks to ya….and she NEVER shuts up!
I also had a Subaru BRZ, I changed it for a Lotus Elise s220 CR. great car great road holding mid-drive rear-wheel drive, it drifts less but it goes much faster, now it's never been 2 years that I changed the BRZ for the Lotus Elise and I am madly in love with it, the BRZ had not convinced me first of all for the engine too slow 170 hp on the bench other than 200 hp .. in the wet with the Michelin primacy it is very dangerous he tried to kill me in every corner faced at more than 40 km \ h .. while the Lotus is in another category it is almost a supercar .. for example my Elise 260 hp as 0 \ 100 performance in 4.2 seconds and 270 km \ h as maximum speed .. from 0 \ 200 km \ h in 15 seconds, etc. etc. a missile between the curves, while on the straights exceeded 220 km \ h it is quite unstable especially the front which is too light it takes a nice splitter but I cannot put it because otherwise I would no longer be able to park the car in the garage. then as a design the Lotus elise is fantastic
My BRZ actually isn't/wasn't that bad until it lunched its engine on the track. But as you said, the Lotus is in a different category altogether.
Are you comparing sub ton car for a more modern take on cars ? Really ? Also comparing Mr to Fr? Of course that matters.
🤌 beautiful car. Great video 👍
Thank you! 👍
No Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tyres in the size for Elise. Main choices are Yokohama Advan Neova AD07 for Continental Extremecontact Sport
Thanks - I had notice the lack of Pilot Sports, but the Contis seem to be getting really good reviews on other cars, might be worth a try.
I'm taller than you (183) and I have no problem wearing a helmet in my S2 111S on the track - love my Elise!!
Thanks, that's good to know. Is that with the soft top or the hardtop?
@@garagemoneypit I use the soft top. The dimensions inside the S1 and the S2 are pretty much the same. The guys are I have a trackday at Bedford on the 29th and someone will have a hardtop and I’ll try it for you.
@@TomEnduro thanks, that would be great!
@@garagemoneypit there are also after market seat runners you can use to lower the seat a little bit more.
@@panosalp thanks, I wasn't aware of those.
It looks like I fit the car OK with a helmet, although I haven't tracked it yet.
I thought the brz was better for thy track but mine is gone as well and my Elise isn't so... Also inokinetic makes a heel and toe pad that works perfect for that.
Thanks - I'll checkout inokinetic.
Hello, I am in the opposite way. Have an S1 Elise, thinking of a BRZ / GT86 because of extra seats and kids. Driving wise, would that be a serious compromise to do so? I am not interested in acceleration and high speeds; more willing to know about handling and overall driving feeling. Any tip regarding track day use would also be welcome. Thanks!
The BRZ/GT86 is a very different car. I don't think it's a "compromise" in a major sense, just different. You're not really going to get the kind of feedback through the steering and the butt-o-meter that you get in an Elise, but that's pretty much par for the course for any car.
That said, have a very close looks at the extra "seats" - IME they're best used folded down transporting something rather than subjecting a human to them :) so it might not quite give you the practicality you're after.
Hello! I have a gt86, and the elise has always caught my attention.
You who had a brz... which one do you prefer?
Thank you very much!
Hello Jose, well, I did end up selling the BRZ and am keeping the Elise for the time being so that might answer your question already :).
That said, the Elise is considerably less practical and in my opinion much more of a "second car" than a BRZ/GT86 at least if you live the US. It would be different if I still lived in the UK or elsewhere in Europe where I could walk to the shops.
From a driving experience perspective though, the Elise wins hands down. There aren't may road cars that give you this level of feedback and involvement.
@@garagemoneypit Thank you very much! I am happy with him. Gt86, but elise has always caught my attention..... And after your comment, it attracts me more 😄. My goal is to have a car that makes me smile on mountain road weekends I'll have to make room in the garage...
Well, the Elise does use a Toyota engine and transmission so........ it should last ?
I'm definitely hoping that it will. My general experience with Elises is that they do tend to last when looked after - even my S1 in the UK with the Rover engine was basically reliable.
How this car does 0-60 time?
I have done 5.2 in my 111R
But can you handle it? 🤔
Well, I guess I'm going to find out sooner or later. I have tracked one before, so there is that...
@@garagemoneypit light cars, with an engine in the back can be very nasty to handle properly, take care :D
@@usssztorm1410 oh, I know that :). I’ve tracked a turbo MR2 for a few years after my S1 Elise, so I’ll definitely approach this with all sorts of caution.
The, when properly aligned and on fresh rubber, she truly telegraphs her intentions as you accelerate through a turn. She lets you know very gently that the back is about to come out and I typically just hold her there. Smoothness is key. I run on the very soft Yoko's and love them.