I just think Disney Channel was popular in the right moment. Media, technology and trends have changed and I don't think that formula can be brought back.
Yeah that’s why Disney channel is becoming so nostalgic at this point, because the formula can’t be repeated and is such a reflection of the 00’s and early 2010s
@@thedaydreamgallery yeah right place right time for sure, and the way kids consume media has changed so making stars like that is practically impossible
Haven’t tuned into Disney Channel in EONS and I’m wondering what exactly they’re doing to stay relevant. As of late, it seems like they’re holding onto nostalgia for dear life with all these reboots like HSMTS and Raven’s Home since their current original shows are just not that popular.
I feel like Hillary didn’t get enough credit for basically starting the other girls careers. I never realized how she was one of the firsts to start the singing and acting thing
Well, technically, the Mickey Mouse Club and Kids Incorporated were first. But Hilary was one of the first to be the star of her own show and have a record deal with Disney as well. But they didn't nail that formula down until Raven came along and added one more ingredient: doing her own intro song. Even Stevens and Lizzie McGuire had intro songs done by others, but Rae did her own. And, ever since then, every female star has done the intro to their own shows. And, actually, now that I think of it, didn't That's So Raven come out before Hilary got her record deal? This calls for google!! *after a Google search* Ok. So That's So Raven started in January 2003, Hilary's Metamorphosis (her first ACTUAL album) came out August 2003. So 8 months later. And Lizzie McGuire The Movie came out in May 2003. So they were really starting to push it with her and Rae in the same year. They figured it all out in 2003!
@@unigenius I swear that a 60 year old woman sang that Lizzie theme song, I love that show (even despite Lizzie being an overly materialistic female simp, that was one shrine of that Ethan Craft guy away from being the Disney version of Helga from Hey Arnold) and maybe it’s just all the pop punk and metalcore I’ve indulged in since I was 14 making everything else sound slow, but my god that’s a sleepy ass theme song, my non-animated childhood crush really deserved a better theme
@@finnmckentyslanderaccount409 Hallie Todd, who played Lizzie’s mom, sang the Lizzie theme song. She was 40 at the time and will be 60 next year. But your point remains the same. 😅
@@jessicazeller8060 I thought that song felt like her mom!! And that song DOES feel hecka sleepy compared to all of the loud punch we got in intros since then (Thats so raven, Hannah Montana, wizards..., shake it up, good luck Charlie, victorious [not Disney, but in the same vein], etc)
Kids aren’t watching TV anymore. I remember I stopped watching children’s TV shows when I found TH-cam back in 2007. I can only imagine little kids growing up today getting iPads and watching TH-cam/TikTok, basically being on social media for their whole lives
Yep in the uk Disney channel was shut down about 6 months ago, and it wouldn’t surprise me if the us one wasn’t far behind. I think they’re kind of giving up on Disney channel and focusing on Disney + which business wise makes sense
That’s true!! Children are learning that they can become famous without a giant studio or production company to assist. All they have to do is make a TH-cam video or a TikTok and they have a chance. Obviously, those come with their own set of issues, but it's way easier and more creatively liberal than being signed to an agency that would determine your whole life schedule.
@@siobhanmcshanehill895 That's crazy!! Ofc, idk how big Disney Channel was in the UK, but Disney Channel in the US has been such a cornerstone of children's entertainment, that it'd be weird as all fuck if they got shuttered. Ofc, that's not to say that it wouldn't make sense. Disney+ is already a monumental success, so allocating the money that they've been spending on Disney Channel into Disney+ would be smart. I'd just be a sad noodle, because that's my childhood.
Disney and Nickelodeon doesn’t have that same feel like it used to. My parents would go out of their way to watch those shows with me without hesitation, that’s how much even adults were even entertained from those shows back then. I can’t even turn on Disney without feeling like everything is dumbed down
So I’m watching Nicky, Ricky, Dicky, Dawn for the first time in like 5 years on Netflix now and my god whyyy do people think saying the dumbest things is funny? It’s annoying and frustrating as hell. Ugh why did the name one of the quads Dicky? Why not Mikey?
@@alext3480 thank god I was born that year. I watched some of the greatest shows of my childhood. I don’t recognize Disney today. Wth happened? They ruined GMW, K.C. Undercover should’ve gotten a 4th season, and Coop and Cami is trying to be like iCarly like Bizarrdvark tried to be, but is even worse! My 13 year old brother now hates Disney Channel.
A lot of people don't understand how popular Hannah Montana was ,miley was literally afraid that people would always know her as Hannah Montana that's how big she was, they literally got Taylor FUCKIN swift to sing and write for the Hannah Montana movie
@@komfykoala6083 most, if not all, kids and fans of Hannah Montana didn't know who Billy Ray Cyrus was and/or his music. It is targeted towards kids and they aren't his target audience.
I was very poor as a kid and didn't have a channel like Disney, but I knew who all those stars were, mostly from some cheap magazines, so they really had a huge impact on the industry.
I use to watch it at my friends house we were broke af but she lived in a nice suburb-house. I remember being jealous cause her mom had a Mercedes and she had radio Disney 😂
same here. we got the cheap package so i just saw snippets from when i would go to my cousin’s house. i watched episodes of wizards of waverly place on youtube instead lol
As of 2021, there is no more Radio Disney, so immediately launching actors & actresses from Disney shows into huge careers as recording stars isn't nearly as easy anymore.
I also noticed that in the current era of disney, they have a disconnect worldwide which makes it harder to be aware of the stars they try to break Im from Trinidad and they no longer show the USA disney over here, so nobody here really knows of any stars they try to break Disney now for ppl my age is like a nostalgic vessel and for the younger kids it seems irrelevant to them 😭
@@SKSK-qg1kn yes this is such a good point! We don’t have Disney channel in the uk anymore, it was shut down about 6 months ago. Seems like they’re kind of giving up on Disney channel and focusing on Disney +
teen pop has been "replaced" by kpop now, sure teens/young people like "dark" "relatable" music now, but a lot still want fun, dancey, "colorful" stuff, and I think kpop is filling that void
It honestly makes sense too. Kpop labels work in the same way Disney did, train their stars at a young age to become products that will garner revenue.
Coming From A K-Pop Fan, You're Absolutely Right. There's A Lot Of Different Groups With Different Genres Of Music. Some Of The Cute, Colorful Groups Are Orange Caramel, Oh My Girl And TWICE. Another Thing Is Teenage Girls Literally Help Create So Many Popular Artist Like Groups, Espically Boy Bands, But Get Bullied For It. Elvis For Example. His First Audience Was Teenage Girls But He Wasn't Taken Seriously Until Adult Men Liked Him. Teenage Girls Are Very Versitile With Their Interest And They Paved The Way Of So Many Artist
I am also fascinated with a decent Jungle Book retelling called My Mowgli Boy. It’s a tv drama which comes from the land of the black and white panda bear and I have pins of it on Pinterest.
i feel like disney+ is gonna be the older version of disney channel because I feel like everyone on Disney Channel is like 10-years-old now.. but i think this video is kinda inaccurate. not all superstars are singers. Zendaya, Olivia Rodrigo, Dove Cameron, Asher Angel, Peyton List, Skai Jackson, Jenna Ortega, Ross Lynch, Noah Centineo, and Ross Butler are all very successful actors.
@@sophiaarias9341 This Though. Also I Saw Another Comment Was How Live Action Shows Back In The 2000s Were Directed More At Teens. Disney In Recent Years Except Andi-Mack And HSMTMTM Are Now Directed At Kids
@@offgun6466 lmaoo that is not true. Her song from HSMTMTS trended on TikTok before drivers license and she had a fandom from that show. She’s still known for being a Disney child star.
A word on why "kids" don't wanna sing about "kiddy" topics: In addition to music changing, consider the fact that kids aren't kids anymore. Children don't have childhoods. The world is so agressive and kids grow up way faster because of family dynamics and the access to adult content and kids don't even relate to innocence anymore. Kids are shaped by the adults around them and children today are under a lot of pressure emotionally and mentally because adults!
To add to this, I think the fact that the adults are under a lot of pressure emotionally and mentally too also pushes this further since this is what the kids are experiencing Everyone’s so freaking exhausted
@@merryberry6576 This. And I'm so exhausted of having to pretend that the world is fine, going through my day to day life, doing all these college assignments as if I'm not breaking down into tears everyday because I feel like I can't withstand the pressure and stress of the world rn. Everyone is just acting like all of this is normal and I'm tired of feeling like I'm crazy for it.
Most Disney channel stars have moved to Netflix: Laura Marano, Vanessa Hudgens, Gregg Sulkin, Sabrina Carpenter, Sofia Carson, and even Noah Centineo and Ross Butler who had small roles in Austin & Ally and KC Undercover. Definitely Netflix is the grown up version of Disney but with less music. (Also don’t sleep on Laura Marano she’s really talented)
It's the opposite now.. their acting career is getting more recognition than their music career.. especially, Sabrina deserves so much better... She has been dropping bops after bops.. her music is really good. I hope her music career gets the recognition it deserves as well.
Honestly Demi, Miley, Selena, and the Jonas Brothers were the golden age. They all had amazing shows/movies on Disney and all of them broke out in the industry, esp the girls
I’m feeling super nostalgic with this, so here’s my top 10 Disney shows: 1. Kim Possible (not just my favorite Disney program, but one of my all time favorite shows overall, the writing quality was unreal) 2. Even Stevens 3. Gravity Falls 3. That’s So Raven 4. Zack And Cody 5. Lizzie McGuire 6. American Dragon 7. Proud Family 8. Lilo And Stitch: The Series 9. Phineas And Ferb 10. Recess
@@kashsavii8790 I enjoy the show and it’s really cleverly written but what keeps it from being top 5 is how repetitive it can get, watching it as a now almost 20 year old
@@Missmagazinebura not saying they aren't making music but are they on the level of the past Disney stars? My point was that tv shows or Disney shows aren't the same quality as they once were in the 90s-00s. As a result stars aren't really coming from Disney anymore. Stars come from social media like tiktok etc.
The industry has been focusing more on quantity over quality in the last years with all the massive production of shows for streaming platforms and binge culture.
The worst thing that Nickelodeon has ever done was try to compete with Disney when it came to their Live Action shows...even the live action shows they had in the 90s were just kids just being kids...
@@blueisblue599 yes but actors like emma roberts, drake bell, Josh peck, miranda, victoria etc... They were pretty famous with their shows but Ariana was the one who became big like the disney ones
I think Nickelodeon has sort of adjusted for the TH-cam generation when they signed Jojo Siwa, but unfortunately alot of her fans don't understand that like the Disney stars, she is basically manufactured. Shows that Nickelodeon are good at fooling her fans into thinking that she has alot of creative control over her career(Jojo only gets last say really, I don’t think she sits there and designs her products and when she dose, they probably rarely make the cut), when she really doesn't have that much control over career. But because she turns 18 in a few weeks, her contract will possibly end and I think she could probably be the last sort of "big" thing to come out of Nick...
Honestly Disney Channel stars like Miley Cyrus, Demi Lovato, etc have said it was a toxic environment and that amount of fame and cameras all the time was stressful. They honestly gave up their childhood.
@@Missmagazinebura I remember when I used to say Raven's show was the only current decent Disney show, now it's just plain bad after season 2. The humor is terribly dry and Raven/Chealse scenes carry the whole show. I'm an actor myself and I know friends who could've played most of those characters better because the teens have some of the driest acting. Also, the singing in Disney Channel now is boring... Like everything is super autotuned. I feel like the last of the great singers came and left with Descendants.
disney has transitioned from older teens to tweens for their target audience. back in the 2000’s, the actors were old enough to launch into the music industry right after their disney contract.
@@vanessax6092 Nickelodeon started the trend with Ned’s guide to middle school, based on a forgotten 2000s book and featuring Devon Werkheiser of Casper’s Scare School Fame.
@@hailey-rosevintora6211 exactly! the only times in 2000’s disney where the main characters were in middle school was hannah montana, and they were in 8th grade for only 1 season.
I think that now Disney no longer has relevance in the new generations, we have social networks like TH-cam, tik tok and more that are the ones that create the new generations of B-list artists The last super star that Disney has released is Zendaya, but it was through her own means and her team like Olivia Rodrigo that she signed with another label and not with Hollywood Records
Even Sabrina Carpenter who was signed with HW seemed to be eager to sign with another one once her contract was up. So along with teen pop maturing, Disney can't keep up with their stars doing the same or not wanting to conform to their restrictive, pg standards
@@maddiegrace9787 Yup because Sabrina’s record label was horrible they had no promotion for her at all, which is why she never charted. Her music is great but her record label failed her
Shocks same and we became sad that the hanna montana is no longer there but oh well the change was good cause she was able to change her name from the hanna montana name that we know.
Her VMA 2013 performance is one I couldn’t bare to look for a while. Plus I was going through a difficult time out of high school during the period. I wasn’t in too much of a middle school nostalgia place. I was also going through a fantasy breakup with Miley over what almost happened to her parents and forgot to watch the final season of HM when it was still on Netflix.
i feel like the current generation of teenagers (like 15 atleast) was one of the last generations to get to experience the best of disneys manufactured stars. like i feel like lots of kids after 2009-10 or so dont watch actual kids tv anymore so that most likely has a huge effect on it.
This Though. Just Base Off A Lot Of Comments From 2000s Nostalgia, Kids Born In 2007 Were The Last Kids To Have A 2000s Experience Which Includes Disney. Kids Born In 2007 Are Gonna Be Freshman In August/September.
I was born in 2003, and I got so many memories when he mentioned Austin and Ally, Good Luck Charlie, Shake it Up, etc... and omg PHINEAS AND FERB was amazing, my mother loves that show more than I do😂
Disney Channel’s marketing of music is just outdated for this era. Gen Z wants stars and music who are more “raw” , have more of a “genuine” come up behind them , so really the “friendly” sanitized image Disney has pushed for its music stars cant work anymore in this day and age.
Genuine come ups are usually fake. Most recent stars are the product of things like nepotism and wealthy parents. There's nothing raw in pop music nowadays.
@@teenabaskar7000 So many of the chart acts atm are industry plants with connections. They end up winning every Grammy and critical acclaim and scoring number ones literally out of nowhere with their first song or album. So although there’s no obvious machine behind them, the current crop of stars made famous by generation z definitely do NOT have an organic come up lol. Tbh tho ex Disney stars music is cringe so I’m glad they’ve died out but that’s another conversation
I'm an older Gen Z and grew up with the old Disney (i was born in 2001), it was amazing. Austin & Ally was my favorite. Now, as an adult i prefer more raw music, but i didn't mind and a tween. Feels like "old" and "new" gen Z are two completely different generations to me.
In a way, I’m grateful that current Disney Channel stars haven’t struck the same golden jackpot as the previous ones did. Imagine being bullied by the media and viewers’ parents because they refused to see you grow up from a made-up character and having your entire career be defined by ONE movie or hit TV show to the extent where other companies and other consumers won’t take you seriously. There’s too much trauma associated with child fame and Disney Channel was a huge catalyst in causing that.
Seriously, taking real kids and graft on new personalities that are so tight there's little room for growth and then act surprised that there are consequences.
I always talk about that. If I were to be a celebrity or influencer, I’d rather be on Emma chamberlain, Cindy Kimberly level than a Kendall Jenner level.
@@angelinebena9675 Lol I like Disney as far as the classics and when they were there prime. I watched Raven's Home a couple years back, It wasn't bad but it didn't give me the same feel as That's so Raven. Not so much into watching Disney channel anymore. I'll have to get Disney plus to see the classics again and get the nostalgic feel.
I remember that. Ten years ago I stopped watching Disney Channel because I was busy with school. It took me a few years to properly say goodbye to few moments of my middle school. But I started watching again with Tangled the Series, Liv & Maddie, Descendants and Raven.
I feel old it was green day when I was In middle school and she only got popular when i was in high school but high school students weren't into her .. I didn't really care for her.
We're in the peak of social media, the right marketing of one's self can get them exposure example (Jack harlow, with what's popping) and Tik Tok helping out. So Disney's method wouldn't be effective in present day
Who the hell is Jack Harlow though? I wouldn’t say those tik tok stars are famous AT ALL. They are only famous in tik tok and only young kids know them
Most of the old Disney stars went through a ton of trauma because of them being young and in the spotlight, so I’m a little glad some of them sorta stayed kids after being on Disney. Old school Disney will always stay in my heart tho ❤️❤️❤️
Yeah, it's a tough industry. Not just Disney, but Nick, too. Josh Peck said being a child actor messed him up. Hollywood habitually molest children and it goes unnoticed...
Yeah miley had anxiety disorders, eating disorder, depression, and body dismorphia. And was also the least paid among demi Lavato, selena gomez and the Jonas brothers even tho she was way more popular than them and ran Disney at that time. She was also the least paid in the whol HM cast
@@usernotfound0703 Also, Miley acted like that because she Disney gave them no freedom. It made it very hard for them to be able to Express themselves. So, most of the time, when they do grow ups, they go crazy because they want to make music and movies that they couldn't under Disney.
Nobody watches tv like that and these kids today have the shortest attention spans. They jump on internet trends which are forever changing and honestly Disney has a bad reputation of treating those kids like shit which didn’t help.
I also feel like new Disney is SO disconnected from the real current culture. Like when R&B was dominating the charts, we saw that music in the shows. Now that trap/hip hop beats are more popular with kids, they’re STILL committed to making the same bubblegum pop music💀. Even the dressing was more reflective of the time in the 2000s.
I think the general reaction to hearing those Disney kids rapping or singing on trap or rap beats would cringe, tbh. I think it can work if they don't make it cringey tho..
@@Ash_and_Ember00 Well to be fair, one of the Sprouse twins is on Riverdale and was the actor of that “i’m weird” scene, so that’s enough for me to consider him someone that’s gone down the wrong path
Kids are getting edgy and angsty and developing interests more quickly and younger than ever because of the internet. I think that the bubblegum pop feel of this kid shows are starting to become boring even for kids. I don’t even think the actors in these shows particularly dress how kids do nowadays.
True. Compared to the Internet, television in general seemed overall safer and more kid-friendly. Growing up in the 2000s, Disney Channel was a place were kids could just enjoy fun movies and shows. Creating a Disney Channel movie or show while competing with Instagram, TicTok, and a plethora of streaming services is a challenge.
Disney failed Ross Lynch literally a mega threat 1.singer 2.Songwriter 3.dancer 4. Plays instruments 5.Actor 6.good to look at he should honestly be bigger than what he is
sabrina carpenter is WAYYYY to underrated, she could easily just be as huge if a success if everyone gave her the time of day. her last 2 albums are solid 10/10
Exactly!! It's just that her record label didn't do anything for herr.. Don't worry, now that she has switched it. I hope she gets the hype she deserves.
@@gerardosanchez6592For reall.. Maybe it's still possible.. Thumbs was once again in the charts after 4 years.. and People are finally recognizing her. Also Sue me is being streamed. We need a music video for Looking at Me.. it was blowing up a lot in the edits but only if we had a music video it could have topped the charts.. but of course Hollywood records.. I don't expect it from them. I hope more songs blow up globally like On my Way.. the fact they didn't use the hype she got from On My Way.. but I hope her new record labels does her justice!! We'll be always here supporting her..
Disney learned from Britney, Christina, and Justin. Form then on they made sure to sign all their actors to make sure they wouldn’t lose any profit. But after their golden era ended, Disney just hasn’t been the same. Kids aren’t watching like they use to since they can just watch TH-cam instead.
Miley, Britney spears, and Selena Gomez, are the only ones who really succeeded in music after Disney. Zendaya is the only one I can think of who succeeded in acting after disney. Sabrina kinda succeeded in both, just not on the same level
@@Hope-si1kb Christina and Justin also succeed, demi somehow as well but not as popular as her contemporaries, unfortunately other acts like the cheetah girls, high school musical cast, Jonas brothers, Aly and AJ, Shake it up, ant farm, etc. Only received a modest success after Disney that was pretty forgettable
I think I remember when disney first started losing their touch, I think it was when they started segregating Disney by different continents. I remember when I was growing up after the hannah Montana era, they started introducing "Disney Asia" etc. Disney US started getting pulled from non US households and alot of their international fanbase started to get confused with the dates of shows, as each continent, sometimes even country, would have different scheduling and even exclusive content, the inconsistencies was just annoying for alot of people.
I remember as a kid (in Bulgaria), I used to watch on my TV old episodes, while friends of mine had English TV (Not sure if it was the American or the UK version). They were so much more forward and even some shows were never seen on the Bulgarian version as I recall. 😭
Understandable I remember wanting to watch The Lodge but it was only available in the UK and I’m sure it would’ve lasted longer than it did if it wasn’t a British exclusive show.
Most of us 90s/2000s/early 2010s kids are lucky we grew up from corporations like Disney and Nickelodeon. Despite learning the dark side of these networks, we’ll always remember the good times when they made great shows and movies that would leave permanent marks on our childhood. We lived the good life when these programs came on and I feel bad that more generations to come will never understand what a magical time it was during these days!!! Kids these days deserve better stuff than what they got right now!!!
@@PinkVampire21 To be fair, the shows that semi mentioned were popular even though they came out at the end of Disney’s prime. Around 2014-2015 when these programs were losing it big time.
She was at the end of Disney prime. I compare her success to the mickey mouse club kids. Like the video said she got more successful within their own right
I feel like a lot of people are going to say Olivia Rodrigo, let’s just get this straight: (even though you said it in the video) Olivia is signed to Geffen/Interscope, a record company not affiliated with Hollywood Records. What this means is that Disney had no control whatsoever over her music career.
Disney doesn’t care about Disney channel anymore, they haven’t for a long time, u can see that in the horrible quality of the shows and dcoms, so naturally they don’t push their stars anymore. Hilary, Raven, Shia etc, is when they first started out with pushing their stars completely but just the right amount, Hilary being the blueprint for all the Disney stars after her, Raven was already well known before Disney, they just pushed her to new heights but Disney doesn’t have a good record of pushing their black girls like China, Coco etc. The last batch of fully pushed Disney stars were Miley, Selena, Demi, Jonas brothers, zac, Vanessa, cole and Dylan, etc. this is when disney was just cranking out star after star. The next era with Zendaya, Bella, Debby, Ross, China, Bridget etc, they were pushed but not as hard as the stars before them, and even then it was only really Zendaya, Bella, and maybe Bridget that were ever really pushed, they tried to make Debby and Ross something but it didn’t work out, this was when Disney started to not care as much about them. Then the era with Dove, Sabrina, Rowan etc, is when Disney just barley pushed them at all, and now they simply don’t care. Olivia was never pushed by Disney at all, so she technically isn’t a Disney star, she make work with Disney but Disney isn’t backing her.
I completely agree about the stars from the early 2010s.. That's when I noticed that there was barely any promo, like you said "they were pushed, but not as hard". I am 25 and even then I really wanted to watch Disney Channel, even the new stuff, but it was just so noticeably different. And you're so spot on about the era with the Dove, Sabrina, etc.
@@rjpar8244 Oh really? That movie was from 2018? Hmm I thought it was 2019. Also R5 ENDED? Damn, I thought they'd still be making music, what made them stop? The Sabrina show is already over? Again, DAMN.
I’ve lost interest before Hannah Montana and Suite Life ended. Mainly because I was busy with school. When Jesse began, I just started my senior year of HS.
Do y'all remember the show that aired after Girl's Meet World. I forgot its name, it was about 2 friends that could time travel i think. I felt that show straight out plagerized GMW. It had real bad plots and cheesy scripts.
They probably just realize that there is no way to produce stars anymore most famous people come from youtube instagram souncloud ect. I mean look at Victorious (which isn’t a Disney show but still a great example) they put Victoria at the for front of everything even going the lengths of only giving her solo singing scenes but Ariana grande a side character with litteraly no singing parts became a Grammy winner
I liked Disney songs tho, they were sweet, positive and motivating. I'm not an expert or anything but I feel as if many of the famous songs that come out these days have a lot negativity, or feelings of loss, pain, hurt, betrayal or simply just a lot of vulgar words. I mean it's great that the artists are sharing so much with us through their music but I would sometimes wish for music to be my sweet escape and they don't feel like that. I listen to hannah montana songs even now and they're very feel-good type, lift my mood up💜.
"I feel as if many of the famous songs that come out these days have a lot negativity, or feelings of loss, pain, hurt, betrayal or simply just a lot of vulgar words." This is why people are starting to like Kpop.
@@trinah8812 i don't listen to kpop but i've checked out some of the more underrated artists and their songs can be pretty dark too. i think the reason why we see and hear more of the negative/vulgar songs is because of social media. i don't think they're particularly bad but people are becoming more open with mental health and the artists are just reflecting that. a bit off topic but i think as the pandemic is finishes, the feel-good songs will start to come back 🤞🏽
Dove was one of the last manufactured girls. She signed a contract and immediately started recording music and acting in shows. But she is actually insanely talented and I'm obsessed with her new song, Lazy Baby.
Because Disney writing and effort is deteriorating. Y’all never noticed that a lot of these new shows are getting more and more lazy in terms of writing compared to these old shows for the same demographic
The only one in recent years that was the same quality as old shows but not as popular was andi Mack. That show was so well done and tackled issues like single motherhood and teen pregnancy really well.
i’ve noticed that disney’s animated shows (owl house, amphibia, ducktales 2017, etc.) have been getting a lot more buzz than their live action shows over the last few years. i think that’s also a factor.
@@amaltaher2717 Yes to everything u said, I'll add to that by saying Andi Mack was also one of the few to be single-camera and it was by the creator of Lizzie McGuire, so that helped
People like Dove Cameron, Sabrina Carpenter, and Olivia Rodrigo are considered Disney stars, but I feel like they aren’t as tied to the Disney label. Yes they had their own shows and music on Disney but it didn’t get the initial stardom that girls like Miley, Raven, and Hillary Duff got. They exploded and everyone saw them as celebrities outside of Disney. I think it took a while for Sabrina to get her name known and Dove became more known after she left her show, Oliva is probably the most famous at this time.
I mean, almost all of their Disney Channel stars turned their backs on them or called them out on their shit once they grow up. They're too scarred they will get more backlash.
(The algorithm would suggest this video for me...) I just want to add that there is an interesting case of this in Latin America. In the last decade, they produced a couple of shows that became megapopular there and in Europe, one of which was produced during the era where they failed to make anything really relevant (besides Descendants). "Violetta" and "Soy Luna" blew up to the point where they had big stadium tours and some of their stars have seen great success, whether it be music, acting, or just being a familiar face (TINI™, Karol Sevilla, Jorge Lopez, and Valentina Zenere are the big examples I can think of). Like, it was probably very hard to escape those two shows in many countries. And then their latest show "BIA"... well, either it didn't meet their expectations or they sabotaged it, depending on who you ask. It's really interesting to me because BIA came right after Soy Luna, but it somehow wasn't able to carry on its momentum. The 'rona definitely contributed to its downfall, but even before that, it was getting clear that it wasn't gonna be the next big thing. -which imo is a shame since it has the best music of the three- Recently, the executives for the Latin American division said that they aren't gonna be producing any more original local projects for Disney Channel and have shifted their focus on Disney+, so I wonder if their next big star will come from there.
The only mistake she made for her career is signing with Hollywood records.. that to for 5 years.. Even if they didn't promote her well.. her music spoke for her.. she still got so much recognition but definitely deserves a lot more.. Her music and talent has so much potential.. I hope her music blows up even more like On my way did globally.. and she gets the hype she deserves.
funny how you didn't mention the big phat elephant in the room, what genre rn is perfecting the Disney brand of: well dressed, clean cut, beautiful looking, know how to sing/dance, vibrant colorful MVs & over all carters to teen audiences & fan service: KPOP
@@spotlightspanther I think it was the success of The Mickey Mouse Club- with Britney, Christina, Justin and Ryan G as their big stars, they skyrocketed to stardom having no more affiliations with Disney but finding their own record labels and crafting the teen idol handbook with polished looks, elaborately choreographed routines and inoffensive lyrics then maturing their sound with a raunchier image to match. They changed how the music landscape should look, with the Disney stars of 2000s and early 2010s- Lindsay, Hilary, Miley, Selena, Demi-taking it new levels of edginess that at first, it is seen as "wearing out the shock value for all its worth" but at a later time, celebrated as liberation for abandoning the squeaky clean image their forced into at a young age (With Hilary as an exception for she never used her sex appeal to sell records and Lindsay was labelled was the ultimate Hollywood trainwreck, which is very unkind) They were teenagers, they're bound to be curious about the adult world but Disney is super strict about the content they can be exposed to or show as their target demographic is consistent of 8 year olds.
I don’t think it’s the stars themselves, I think they just aren’t pushing them to be bigname celebs like they used to. They’re giving up on Disney channel and focusing on Disney + at this point. I wouldn’t be surprised if Disney channel doesn’t exist at all in 5 years
Also Nickelodeon stars too. Looking back, the Victorious cast was probably the most interesting and the most talented out of them all. Ariana Grande is a generational talent, Liz gillies is a wonderful actress, Leon Thomas has Grammys under his belt and is a phenomenal producer, I can go on. There hasn’t been a cast since then with that kind of... just talent.
It's because back then everyone used to watch Disney channel religiously and people like Hillary, Raven, Selena and Miley etc used to be their teen idols. Nowadays, every kid is on social media and their teen idols are Charlie and Dixie
@@igiveyouthefacts Sabrina is her senior for that matter.. and the only reason people still find her underrated is because her record label did her no good.. they didn't promote her music well or do anything for publicity.. but no one can deny her music and her talent deserves much more recognition and hype.. now that she has switched to another record label.. don't worry, she'll only grow more.. cause She has so much potential.. She's not the one to give up simply because of a stupid drama..
Olivia And Sabrina Deserves Their Success But People Complain About Disney Not Making Any More Stars In Recent Years But When 2 Girls Who Were From Disney Get Popular, People Create Fake Drama. Like It's Not Only Disney's Fault, It's Also The Audience's Fault
@@igiveyouthefacts that’s such a weird comparison. Olivia just started her career this year whereas sabrina already has 4 albums out and has a successful acting and directing career. How do you know a brand new star with 1 big hit is going to outlast a star that’s been popular for years already? Not saying Olivia won’t be very successful because I’m sure she will; but you seem quite biased.
I also think that the Disney stars back then weren’t afraid to “go there” with their music along with slightly edgier shows which aided in their commercial success whereas nowadays Disney channel musicians are so cheesy and “pg” that no one wants to listen. Olivia was so smart about not signing with Disney, because I doubt she would have had as much creative freedom as she does now and her music would be trash. I also think that the people who were really heavy into Disney during its heyday are all grown up now, which has made Disney as a channel, along with their shows, decrease in popularity.
I know what u mean, there was a bit of an edge to the earlier shows especially with the jokes and the kind of references they were allowed to make. Even Stevens made references to artists like Sisqo and Limp Bizkit, and got away with using the word sexy 3 different times. Louis (Shia's character) once tried and failed to say "voulez-vous coucher avec moi", which is french for "Do you wanna sleep with me tonight?" Lizzie McGuire made references to Eminem and Ja Rule, and the word "Gigolo" was used in an episode of the Proud Family. Gigolo is not a kid-friendly word so to hear that in an early 00s Disney Channel show had me shook
I was just thinking that Disney would stop manufacturing child stars only because we are in the streaming era, kids don't be watching channel 41 no more they be watching YT netflix or disney+, so it wouldn't make sense to invest so much in a single child star to make them "the next big thing" (damn, do y'all remember that?) Seems like so long ago, yet not that long ago all at the same time.
Most kids these days don't watch or care for disney because they have youtube, tiktok, netflix etc. So that's a huge reason why Disney doesn't have any recent stars. I knew Disney was going downhill when they had Jake paul on there.
nah she isn’t a “disney music star” since she isn’t signed to Hollywood Records. She was signed to Interscope/Geffen, meaning that Disney has virtually no control over her music career.
Ig Olivia rodrigo is the only one that has come out popular from Disney in the last (5?) years... but not to the level of Selena Gomez or Demi lovato *yet*
Social media and how we consume media changed so much! So now there’s so many platforms that are competing with disney so it could never be that era of Disney or Nickelodeon stars. Im glad i grew up in that era when this magic was still happening even though im not a fan of their manufacturing and controlling ways they did at times we realized was happening as we became adults. Also the era of restrained label popstar is not the same anymore and that’s a good thing! I’m excited to see how the new pop era unfolds
What do you mean the last successful? She already blew up and she only has two singles out. She has more streams & listeners then Sabrina, dove Cameron, & Sofia Carson (which are other past/current Disney stars) . She’s been the only one thriving in music recently while being on Disney !!
The part about giving credit to Miley for breaking away from the brand of Hannah Montana is so true. I never thought about how hard that would have been for her to do such an iconic role where her character was the household name, but she really has done well for herself. You don’t see miley and automatically think of Hannah Montana, at least not anymore
Sabrina Carpenter and Dove Cameron were in successful Disney movies/tv shows as well and while they're super talented, they fail to get to the level of fame Selena, Demi and Miley have had
@@wynignatius9289 She's best known for her Acting career, first Disney and now Netflix. And starred in popular films with exceptional performances. She has already set her mark as an Actor. But that being said, her Music Career does get regonition but definitely not enough, considering her potential. And her past record label didn't do much for her publicity and neither did she get into any drama. Now that things have changed a lot, and she has switched record label.. we don't know what destiny has written for her.. but I hope for the best since she deserves so much better.
The Walt Disney Company doesn’t prioritise this model anymore they get their foot in in other ways Beyoncé’s Lion King The Gift and the Black Panther Album. With the rise of Olivia Rodrigo they may return to that model of manufacturing stars because when they find a cow they gonna milk it.
But that makes no sense since Disney didn’t have any say in her music career. She’s signed to Interscope/Geffen, not Hollywood Records. There is no way in hell they’d let one of their own recording artists say “fuck”.
@@davie9944 As Honest said one artist makes a career of music and the next find themselves signed to Hollywood Records Also on saying Fuck she is in season 2 of her show on disney plus she hasn’t been booted she will make more songs promotion is promotion as they manage hulu and disney plus they aren’t really that family friendly company anymore
Great Analysis! But if you really wanna do a deep dive into Disney History, when it comes to Disney Superstars, I didn’t originally start with Britney and Christina. It all started with Annette Funicello.
Celebrities are created on social media now, they should probably consider managing these social media stars and giving them access to all they Disney resources.
I feel like people don't even think of Disney when it comes to Olivia Rodrigo, cuz she looked familiar to me but I couldn't remember how. I had to look her up and she's from Bizaardvark....
She is not exactly a Disney product I think, since her success came from her own music and lyrics unlike the other stars were their hits were given to them
@@kevinr9270 she's signed to Geffen/Interscope. She also writes her own music and has creative control. So...she isn't really a product of Disney Channel in terms of music. Also, majority of people didn't even know who she was until DL came out. She's getting recognition for her music rather than being an actor from "Disney channel"
Do you remember Disney’s NBT??? “Next Big Thing” omg I remember wanting to be on that but now I realize I would’ve been signing up for life-long trauma. it’s scary how they trained kids into being celebrities
Once stars stopped making the Mickey Mouse symbol with a wand, Disney Channel died.
I don’t think so. Disney already started to fail to produce superstars before that
@@angelinebena9675 yeah but without the wand thing, I feel like it was kinda the nail in the coffin if that makes sense?
amen
They still do the wand thing though, I’m confused
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I just think Disney Channel was popular in the right moment.
Media, technology and trends have changed and I don't think that formula can be brought back.
i agree!!
Yeah that’s why Disney channel is becoming so nostalgic at this point, because the formula can’t be repeated and is such a reflection of the 00’s and early 2010s
@@siobhanmcshanehill895 exactly!!
@@thedaydreamgallery yeah right place right time for sure, and the way kids consume media has changed so making stars like that is practically impossible
Haven’t tuned into Disney Channel in EONS and I’m wondering what exactly they’re doing to stay relevant. As of late, it seems like they’re holding onto nostalgia for dear life with all these reboots like HSMTS and Raven’s Home since their current original shows are just not that popular.
I feel like Hillary didn’t get enough credit for basically starting the other girls careers. I never realized how she was one of the firsts to start the singing and acting thing
I know right
Well, technically, the Mickey Mouse Club and Kids Incorporated were first. But Hilary was one of the first to be the star of her own show and have a record deal with Disney as well. But they didn't nail that formula down until Raven came along and added one more ingredient: doing her own intro song. Even Stevens and Lizzie McGuire had intro songs done by others, but Rae did her own. And, ever since then, every female star has done the intro to their own shows. And, actually, now that I think of it, didn't That's So Raven come out before Hilary got her record deal? This calls for google!!
*after a Google search*
Ok. So That's So Raven started in January 2003, Hilary's Metamorphosis (her first ACTUAL album) came out August 2003. So 8 months later. And Lizzie McGuire The Movie came out in May 2003. So they were really starting to push it with her and Rae in the same year. They figured it all out in 2003!
@@unigenius I swear that a 60 year old woman sang that Lizzie theme song, I love that show (even despite Lizzie being an overly materialistic female simp, that was one shrine of that Ethan Craft guy away from being the Disney version of Helga from Hey Arnold) and maybe it’s just all the pop punk and metalcore I’ve indulged in since I was 14 making everything else sound slow, but my god that’s a sleepy ass theme song, my non-animated childhood crush really deserved a better theme
@@finnmckentyslanderaccount409 Hallie Todd, who played Lizzie’s mom, sang the Lizzie theme song. She was 40 at the time and will be 60 next year. But your point remains the same. 😅
@@jessicazeller8060 I thought that song felt like her mom!! And that song DOES feel hecka sleepy compared to all of the loud punch we got in intros since then (Thats so raven, Hannah Montana, wizards..., shake it up, good luck Charlie, victorious [not Disney, but in the same vein], etc)
Kids aren’t watching TV anymore. I remember I stopped watching children’s TV shows when I found TH-cam back in 2007. I can only imagine little kids growing up today getting iPads and watching TH-cam/TikTok, basically being on social media for their whole lives
Yep in the uk Disney channel was shut down about 6 months ago, and it wouldn’t surprise me if the us one wasn’t far behind. I think they’re kind of giving up on Disney channel and focusing on Disney + which business wise makes sense
I agree. My kids watch, but they're both under 7, but a guy I work with had three kids and all of them used to watch TH-cam instead of anything on TV.
That’s true!! Children are learning that they can become famous without a giant studio or production company to assist. All they have to do is make a TH-cam video or a TikTok and they have a chance. Obviously, those come with their own set of issues, but it's way easier and more creatively liberal than being signed to an agency that would determine your whole life schedule.
@@siobhanmcshanehill895 That's crazy!! Ofc, idk how big Disney Channel was in the UK, but Disney Channel in the US has been such a cornerstone of children's entertainment, that it'd be weird as all fuck if they got shuttered.
Ofc, that's not to say that it wouldn't make sense. Disney+ is already a monumental success, so allocating the money that they've been spending on Disney Channel into Disney+ would be smart. I'd just be a sad noodle, because that's my childhood.
Exactly. Plus in my opinion kids are like obsessed with things like Brat TV which makes soap opera's for kids.
Disney and Nickelodeon doesn’t have that same feel like it used to. My parents would go out of their way to watch those shows with me without hesitation, that’s how much even adults were even entertained from those shows back then. I can’t even turn on Disney without feeling like everything is dumbed down
I agree with this. Disney just isn’t as popular and hyped as it used to be
@@joeyjoe292 everyone wanted to be on Disney/Nickelodeon at one point in time 😔
omg my mom use to love drake & josh, she watched all the time 🥺
So I’m watching Nicky, Ricky, Dicky, Dawn for the first time in like 5 years on Netflix now and my god whyyy do people think saying the dumbest things is funny? It’s annoying and frustrating as hell. Ugh why did the name one of the quads Dicky? Why not Mikey?
@@reannagordon most of today’s comedy is saying dumb things, they never teach kids real lessons
Being a kid during Disney Channel’s peak was amazing
Was born in 1999 btw
yeah i feel lucky to had that
2001 baby right here
@@reannagordon same!
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@@alext3480 thank god I was born that year. I watched some of the greatest shows of my childhood. I don’t recognize Disney today. Wth happened? They ruined GMW, K.C. Undercover should’ve gotten a 4th season, and Coop and Cami is trying to be like iCarly like Bizarrdvark tried to be, but is even worse! My 13 year old brother now hates Disney Channel.
A lot of people don't understand how popular Hannah Montana was ,miley was literally afraid that people would always know her as Hannah Montana that's how big she was, they literally got Taylor FUCKIN swift to sing and write for the Hannah Montana movie
Taylor was a breakout star back then so that wasn’t that massive as it would be today
@@sharon-bp9pk she was like Billie eilish back then
Fearless had already sold 8 million copies worldwide before VMA incident
I feel it was also popular because her dad was a famous country singer from the 90s.
@@komfykoala6083 most, if not all, kids and fans of Hannah Montana didn't know who Billy Ray Cyrus was and/or his music. It is targeted towards kids and they aren't his target audience.
I was very poor as a kid and didn't have a channel like Disney, but I knew who all those stars were, mostly from some cheap magazines, so they really had a huge impact on the industry.
same lol we couldn’t afford cable
same I had to watch those shows at my friend’s house
Same here
I use to watch it at my friends house we were broke af but she lived in a nice suburb-house. I remember being jealous cause her mom had a Mercedes and she had radio Disney 😂
same here. we got the cheap package so i just saw snippets from when i would go to my cousin’s house. i watched episodes of wizards of waverly place on youtube instead lol
How???.. HOW did we fail Bridgit Mendler??? The girl is mega talented but underrated af!!
I feel the same way
We also failed Coco Jones, but no one wants to have *that* conversation 😑 . . .
@@truefalse934 FR
@@truefalse934 stream me and you
@@truefalse934 ?? We have been having that conversation since her video went viral
As of 2021, there is no more Radio Disney, so immediately launching actors & actresses from Disney shows into huge careers as recording stars isn't nearly as easy anymore.
Olivia Rodrigo is doing well though
I also noticed that in the current era of disney, they have a disconnect worldwide which makes it harder to be aware of the stars they try to break
Im from Trinidad and they no longer show the USA disney over here, so nobody here really knows of any stars they try to break
Disney now for ppl my age is like a nostalgic vessel and for the younger kids it seems irrelevant to them 😭
@@SKSK-qg1kn Very sad.
@@SKSK-qg1kn yes this is such a good point! We don’t have Disney channel in the uk anymore, it was shut down about 6 months ago. Seems like they’re kind of giving up on Disney channel and focusing on Disney +
@@siobhanmcshanehill895 Yeah, one rare exception.
teen pop has been "replaced" by kpop now, sure teens/young people like "dark" "relatable" music now, but a lot still want fun, dancey, "colorful" stuff, and I think kpop is filling that void
It honestly makes sense too. Kpop labels work in the same way Disney did, train their stars at a young age to become products that will garner revenue.
Check out Boys World. Theyre a girl group but diversed. theyre cool btw
btw i miss those teen pop days where its all fun and games and cheesy stuff like A*teens, Bewitched, Nsync
Coming From A K-Pop Fan, You're Absolutely Right. There's A Lot Of Different Groups With Different Genres Of Music. Some Of The Cute, Colorful Groups Are Orange Caramel, Oh My Girl And TWICE. Another Thing Is Teenage Girls Literally Help Create So Many Popular Artist Like Groups, Espically Boy Bands, But Get Bullied For It. Elvis For Example. His First Audience Was Teenage Girls But He Wasn't Taken Seriously Until Adult Men Liked Him. Teenage Girls Are Very Versitile With Their Interest And They Paved The Way Of So Many Artist
I am also fascinated with a decent Jungle Book retelling called My Mowgli Boy. It’s a tv drama which comes from the land of the black and white panda bear and I have pins of it on Pinterest.
After Olivia Rodrigo, a lot of Disney stars will probably come from Disney Plus instead of Disney Channel.
Who? Lol
i feel like disney+ is gonna be the older version of disney channel because I feel like everyone on Disney Channel is like 10-years-old now..
but i think this video is kinda inaccurate. not all superstars are singers. Zendaya, Olivia Rodrigo, Dove Cameron, Asher Angel, Peyton List, Skai Jackson, Jenna Ortega, Ross Lynch, Noah Centineo, and Ross Butler are all very successful actors.
@@sophiaarias9341 This Though. Also I Saw Another Comment Was How Live Action Shows Back In The 2000s Were Directed More At Teens. Disney In Recent Years Except Andi-Mack And HSMTMTM Are Now Directed At Kids
The thing is Olivia is getting famous for her music not because she’s a Disney star. A lot of people are unaware she has an acting career.
@@offgun6466 lmaoo that is not true. Her song from HSMTMTS trended on TikTok before drivers license and she had a fandom from that show. She’s still known for being a Disney child star.
A word on why "kids" don't wanna sing about "kiddy" topics: In addition to music changing, consider the fact that kids aren't kids anymore. Children don't have childhoods. The world is so agressive and kids grow up way faster because of family dynamics and the access to adult content and kids don't even relate to innocence anymore. Kids are shaped by the adults around them and children today are under a lot of pressure emotionally and mentally because adults!
To add to this, I think the fact that the adults are under a lot of pressure emotionally and mentally too also pushes this further since this is what the kids are experiencing
Everyone’s so freaking exhausted
@@merryberry6576 This. And I'm so exhausted of having to pretend that the world is fine, going through my day to day life, doing all these college assignments as if I'm not breaking down into tears everyday because I feel like I can't withstand the pressure and stress of the world rn. Everyone is just acting like all of this is normal and I'm tired of feeling like I'm crazy for it.
@@rewdskwid you’re not crazy my love.
Not true. We still have shit like Baby Shark
I still act like a kid. I am one. I love Hannah Montana.
great topic, been watching your channel for a few years and this vid brought me back
Hey jamari
Sheesh
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What's up tan superman?
I never thought jamari would be here lol ayy
Most Disney channel stars have moved to Netflix: Laura Marano, Vanessa Hudgens, Gregg Sulkin, Sabrina Carpenter, Sofia Carson, and even Noah Centineo and Ross Butler who had small roles in Austin & Ally and KC Undercover. Definitely Netflix is the grown up version of Disney but with less music. (Also don’t sleep on Laura Marano she’s really talented)
don't sleep on sabrina carpenter too :)
It's the opposite now.. their acting career is getting more recognition than their music career.. especially, Sabrina deserves so much better... She has been dropping bops after bops.. her music is really good. I hope her music career gets the recognition it deserves as well.
Ross Lynch too
Thank you! Laura is so talented
Yeah an Olivia Holt keeps joining shows on Freeform
Good Luck Charlie was the last show from Disney that I watched. I don’t even know what they’re doing now.
I think the same, that was the last good show, it actually makes you laugh
I think the same, that was the last good show, it actually makes you laugh
@Orion Jean Raven’s Home and Andi Mack are the only ones out of your list that I’m even aware of.
As someone who still watches Disney, I think people need to their eyes on a girl name Kylie Canthtrall. She is also a triple threat .
I stopped watching once Ravens Home came out
Honestly Demi, Miley, Selena, and the Jonas Brothers were the golden age. They all had amazing shows/movies on Disney and all of them broke out in the industry, esp the girls
don’t forget Raven 😳
I saw Camp Rock ten years too late. But I enjoyed Hannah Montana was never into Wizards
I disagree. I think a little bit before then, with The Cheetah Girls, Suite Life and Raven was the peak of Disney channel.
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I’m feeling super nostalgic with this, so here’s my top 10 Disney shows:
1. Kim Possible (not just my favorite Disney program, but one of my all time favorite shows overall, the writing quality was unreal)
2. Even Stevens
3. Gravity Falls
3. That’s So Raven
4. Zack And Cody
5. Lizzie McGuire
6. American Dragon
7. Proud Family
8. Lilo And Stitch: The Series
9. Phineas And Ferb
10. Recess
OMG same! Your list is 🔥🔥🔥
Phineas and ferb not top five😥
@@kashsavii8790 I enjoy the show and it’s really cleverly written but what keeps it from being top 5 is how repetitive it can get, watching it as a now almost 20 year old
@@finnmckentyslanderaccount409 👍
Your list screams taste.
Tv shows don't have the same level of quality anymore! Not even just the Disney shows but all together.
Exactly
right? the new ones are so forgettable
Yes but dove Cameron Olivia holt and Olivia Rodrigo are making music
@@Missmagazinebura not saying they aren't making music but are they on the level of the past Disney stars? My point was that tv shows or Disney shows aren't the same quality as they once were in the 90s-00s. As a result stars aren't really coming from Disney anymore. Stars come from social media like tiktok etc.
The industry has been focusing more on quantity over quality in the last years with all the massive production of shows for streaming platforms and binge culture.
Hannah Montanna really was a moment and her music actually slapped.
I live for midnight sky though
was a kid show but it was full of bops, same with high school musical
One In A Million makes me cry every time
the fact that Miley also went on to make another popular song for Black Mirror is beyond iconic. Kinda full circle ngl
I still listen to it till this day.
Not just Disney.... Nickelodeon doesn't even try anymore...
To be fair the only huge pop star that came out of Nick is Ariana. They weren't really making that many stars before.
@@blueisblue599 I forgot that Ariana Grande is from Nickelodeon. But yeah Nickelodeon didn’t really have that much of stars
The worst thing that Nickelodeon has ever done was try to compete with Disney when it came to their Live Action shows...even the live action shows they had in the 90s were just kids just being kids...
@@blueisblue599 yes but actors like emma roberts, drake bell, Josh peck, miranda, victoria etc... They were pretty famous with their shows but Ariana was the one who became big like the disney ones
I think Nickelodeon has sort of adjusted for the TH-cam generation when they signed Jojo Siwa, but unfortunately alot of her fans don't understand that like the Disney stars, she is basically manufactured. Shows that Nickelodeon are good at fooling her fans into thinking that she has alot of creative control over her career(Jojo only gets last say really, I don’t think she sits there and designs her products and when she dose, they probably rarely make the cut), when she really doesn't have that much control over career. But because she turns 18 in a few weeks, her contract will possibly end and I think she could probably be the last sort of "big" thing to come out of Nick...
Honestly Disney Channel stars like Miley Cyrus, Demi Lovato, etc have said it was a toxic environment and that amount of fame and cameras all the time was stressful. They honestly gave up their childhood.
@Sleepy Celeste ravens home 🏡 is like the last teen show
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@@Missmagazinebura I remember when I used to say Raven's show was the only current decent Disney show, now it's just plain bad after season 2. The humor is terribly dry and Raven/Chealse scenes carry the whole show. I'm an actor myself and I know friends who could've played most of those characters better because the teens have some of the driest acting. Also, the singing in Disney Channel now is boring... Like everything is super autotuned. I feel like the last of the great singers came and left with Descendants.
@@Missmagazinebura Tbh I Would Say Andi-Mack Only Because It Deals With A Lot Of Serious Issues Teens Could Relate To
@Sleepy Celeste As a 28 year old who’s a kid at heart, makes feel bitter
disney has transitioned from older teens to tweens for their target audience. back in the 2000’s, the actors were old enough to launch into the music industry right after their disney contract.
Very true now all the shows are centered around the middle school age or even children
I Actually Searched Up Disney Shows From 2021 And Every One Of Them, The Main Character Is 12
@@vanessax6092 Nickelodeon started the trend with Ned’s guide to middle school, based on a forgotten 2000s book and featuring Devon Werkheiser of Casper’s Scare School Fame.
@@hailey-rosevintora6211 exactly! the only times in 2000’s disney where the main characters were in middle school was hannah montana, and they were in 8th grade for only 1 season.
That’s creepy because it’s almost like they’re saying teens aren’t children anymore...
I think that now Disney no longer has relevance in the new generations, we have social networks like TH-cam, tik tok and more that are the ones that create the new generations of B-list artists
The last super star that Disney has released is Zendaya, but it was through her own means and her team like Olivia Rodrigo that she signed with another label and not with Hollywood Records
Thank god
Even Sabrina Carpenter who was signed with HW seemed to be eager to sign with another one once her contract was up. So along with teen pop maturing, Disney can't keep up with their stars doing the same or not wanting to conform to their restrictive, pg standards
@@maddiegrace9787 Yup because Sabrina’s record label was horrible they had no promotion for her at all, which is why she never charted. Her music is great but her record label failed her
@@vanessax6092 definitely so many of her songs could have charted if they marketed her more
@@maddiegrace9787 Yup, her music is up to par with bigger artists and she has the potential to be a main pop girl
I think this is a good reason why when Miley had that era change, we were all shook.
Shocks same and we became sad that the hanna montana is no longer there but oh well the change was good cause she was able to change her name from the hanna montana name that we know.
Her VMA 2013 performance is one I couldn’t bare to look for a while. Plus I was going through a difficult time out of high school during the period. I wasn’t in too much of a middle school nostalgia place. I was also going through a fantasy breakup with Miley over what almost happened to her parents and forgot to watch the final season of HM when it was still on Netflix.
@@manuelorozco7760 I don't understand what u saying
@@usernotfound0703 I apologize
i feel like the current generation of teenagers (like 15 atleast) was one of the last generations to get to experience the best of disneys manufactured stars. like i feel like lots of kids after 2009-10 or so dont watch actual kids tv anymore so that most likely has a huge effect on it.
Very true, i’m 15 and my 10 year old cousin doesn’t even know disney shows
i remember myself having a crush on Nathan Kress during early days of Nickelodeon and having a good time on DCOM movies
This Though. Just Base Off A Lot Of Comments From 2000s Nostalgia, Kids Born In 2007 Were The Last Kids To Have A 2000s Experience Which Includes Disney. Kids Born In 2007 Are Gonna Be Freshman In August/September.
I'm 2005 And My Sister Is 2008 And I Feel Like I'm 30 Talking To Her. Like We're Only 3 Years Apart But She Grew Up After 2007
I was born in 2003, and I got so many memories when he mentioned Austin and Ally, Good Luck Charlie, Shake it Up, etc... and omg PHINEAS AND FERB was amazing, my mother loves that show more than I do😂
Disney Channel’s marketing of music is just outdated for this era. Gen Z wants stars and music who are more “raw” , have more of a “genuine” come up behind them , so really the “friendly” sanitized image Disney has pushed for its music stars cant work anymore in this day and age.
yup
“Genuine come up” in the age of tik tok stars lol?
Genuine come ups are usually fake. Most recent stars are the product of things like nepotism and wealthy parents. There's nothing raw in pop music nowadays.
@@teenabaskar7000 So many of the chart acts atm are industry plants with connections. They end up winning every Grammy and critical acclaim and scoring number ones literally out of nowhere with their first song or album. So although there’s no obvious machine behind them, the current crop of stars made famous by generation z definitely do NOT have an organic come up lol. Tbh tho ex Disney stars music is cringe so I’m glad they’ve died out but that’s another conversation
I'm an older Gen Z and grew up with the old Disney (i was born in 2001), it was amazing. Austin & Ally was my favorite. Now, as an adult i prefer more raw music, but i didn't mind and a tween.
Feels like "old" and "new" gen Z are two completely different generations to me.
In a way, I’m grateful that current Disney Channel stars haven’t struck the same golden jackpot as the previous ones did. Imagine being bullied by the media and viewers’ parents because they refused to see you grow up from a made-up character and having your entire career be defined by ONE movie or hit TV show to the extent where other companies and other consumers won’t take you seriously. There’s too much trauma associated with child fame and Disney Channel was a huge catalyst in causing that.
Seriously, taking real kids and graft on new personalities that are so tight there's little room for growth and then act surprised that there are consequences.
I always talk about that. If I were to be a celebrity or influencer, I’d rather be on Emma chamberlain, Cindy Kimberly level than a Kendall Jenner level.
It is so bittersweet thinking about how Disney Channel use to be.
Lol I still love Disney though
@@angelinebena9675 Lol I like Disney as far as the classics and when they were there prime. I watched Raven's Home a couple years back, It wasn't bad but it didn't give me the same feel as That's so Raven. Not so much into watching Disney channel anymore. I'll have to get Disney plus to see the classics again and get the nostalgic feel.
@@brittanyguyton3987 maybe you just grow up...I think the new Disney cartoons are super great, but not the ones with real humans acting
@@angelinebena9675 Oh the cartoons..I haven't seen any of the new Disney cartoons, I might have to check them out.
I remember that. Ten years ago I stopped watching Disney Channel because I was busy with school. It took me a few years to properly say goodbye to few moments of my middle school. But I started watching again with Tangled the Series, Liv & Maddie, Descendants and Raven.
The good days when Miley was dominating the world, she was on every girls bag on my school lol
The only things I owned were HM DS video game and Miley’s Miles To Go memoir
she's also in every birthday party themes.
That was the only reason why I was excited for school. I would get a new Hannah Montana backpack. 🥰
She was on so many shirts too 😔✋
I feel old it was green day when I was In middle school and she only got popular when i was in high school but high school students weren't into her .. I didn't really care for her.
We're in the peak of social media, the right marketing of one's self can get them exposure example (Jack harlow, with what's popping) and Tik Tok helping out. So Disney's method wouldn't be effective in present day
Who the hell is Jack Harlow though? I wouldn’t say those tik tok stars are famous AT ALL. They are only famous in tik tok and only young kids know them
@@angelinebena9675 you haven't heard of jack harlow? What's popping was a big song last year
damn realizing the first youtube channel was started in 2005 makes me feel so old (I'm 21 lol)
@@gee2541 lol me too
@@itsmeharperjacksons6633 time passes by really quickly 😭 wish we could go back and savor it this time around
Most of the old Disney stars went through a ton of trauma because of them being young and in the spotlight, so I’m a little glad some of them sorta stayed kids after being on Disney. Old school Disney will always stay in my heart tho ❤️❤️❤️
Yeah I feel like we should be glad that now fewer children will be overworked or losing their childhood early
Yeah, it's a tough industry. Not just Disney, but Nick, too. Josh Peck said being a child actor messed him up. Hollywood habitually molest children and it goes unnoticed...
I’m glad I had a childhood. And Miley’s song Younger Now perfectly sums it up
Yeah miley had anxiety disorders, eating disorder, depression, and body dismorphia. And was also the least paid among demi Lavato, selena gomez and the Jonas brothers even tho she was way more popular than them and ran Disney at that time. She was also the least paid in the whol HM cast
@@usernotfound0703 Also, Miley acted like that because she Disney gave them no freedom. It made it very hard for them to be able to Express themselves. So, most of the time, when they do grow ups, they go crazy because they want to make music and movies that they couldn't under Disney.
Nobody watches tv like that and these kids today have the shortest attention spans. They jump on internet trends which are forever changing and honestly Disney has a bad reputation of treating those kids like shit which didn’t help.
You are spot on with that!
I also feel like new Disney is SO disconnected from the real current culture. Like when R&B was dominating the charts, we saw that music in the shows. Now that trap/hip hop beats are more popular with kids, they’re STILL committed to making the same bubblegum pop music💀. Even the dressing was more reflective of the time in the 2000s.
I miss the bubblegum of the 00’s
I think the general reaction to hearing those Disney kids rapping or singing on trap or rap beats would cringe, tbh. I think it can work if they don't make it cringey tho..
@@manuelorozco7760 ew
@@RyanlovesTh I meant the music
Zendeya is the only Disney kid actor i know of to not be fucked up when they grew up
Theres several others out there.
-raven
-hilary duff
-the Sprouse twins
@@Ash_and_Ember00 Well to be fair, one of the Sprouse twins is on Riverdale and was the actor of that “i’m weird” scene, so that’s enough for me to consider him someone that’s gone down the wrong path
Keke Palmer........
There's Brenda Song, Ashley Tisdale, Chelsea from That's So Raven (don't know her real name sorry ) and MANY more.
Annaliese Van Der Pole
Kids are getting edgy and angsty and developing interests more quickly and younger than ever because of the internet. I think that the bubblegum pop feel of this kid shows are starting to become boring even for kids. I don’t even think the actors in these shows particularly dress how kids do nowadays.
And because of that you get awful live-action adaptations of popular cartoons of the past. *COUGH Winx Club COUGH!!!!!*
I can relate being 28 on my phone a lot but have a bit of childhood nostalgia for bubblegum pop music of the 2000’s.
@@mibukdesjarlais534 they rlly slandered our girls though.
This is why HSMTMTS was so popular.
True. Compared to the Internet, television in general seemed overall safer and more kid-friendly. Growing up in the 2000s, Disney Channel was a place were kids could just enjoy fun movies and shows. Creating a Disney Channel movie or show while competing with Instagram, TicTok, and a plethora of streaming services is a challenge.
the disney superstar got replaced by netflix superstar. and also social media superstar that you see on tik tok, instagram and youtube.
Who came out of Netflix as a superstar?
@@NFTProductions noah centineo, lana condor, the stranger things cast, etc.
Some Disney stars move to Netflix
@@ivannalai7501, Timothee Chalamet? Nah.
@@kernd.9221, weren't Noah and Lana adults though?
Disney failed Ross Lynch literally a mega threat 1.singer 2.Songwriter 3.dancer 4. Plays instruments 5.Actor 6.good to look at he should honestly be bigger than what he is
I think bc Disney was dying , I bet he would be really popular on tik tok lol
@@jordannicolexxx true but they could've promoted him more to me he is the only male Disney star to have the full entire package
He, like Zac Efron, desperately wanted to shed his teen idol image and play more edgy roles.
Boy, did they do that. Did they ever.
sabrina carpenter is WAYYYY to underrated, she could easily just be as huge if a success if everyone gave her the time of day. her last 2 albums are solid 10/10
Exactly!! It's just that her record label didn't do anything for herr.. Don't worry, now that she has switched it. I hope she gets the hype she deserves.
@@pancakesxoxo1064 sue me could’ve easily topped the charts, everyone is sleeping on talent
@@gerardosanchez6592For reall.. Maybe it's still possible.. Thumbs was once again in the charts after 4 years.. and People are finally recognizing her. Also Sue me is being streamed.
We need a music video for Looking at Me.. it was blowing up a lot in the edits but only if we had a music video it could have topped the charts.. but of course Hollywood records.. I don't expect it from them. I hope more songs blow up globally like On my Way.. the fact they didn't use the hype she got from On My Way.. but I hope her new record labels does her justice!! We'll be always here supporting her..
@@gerardosanchez6592 omg yesss sue me is so good😭
Can we just have a moment of silence in remembrance of old disney
Ikr yes we should
May she/he rip 😞
Always 😭
Disney learned from Britney, Christina, and Justin. Form then on they made sure to sign all their actors to make sure they wouldn’t lose any profit. But after their golden era ended, Disney just hasn’t been the same. Kids aren’t watching like they use to since they can just watch TH-cam instead.
I think it was Hillary Duff that really made them realise their potential
@@siobhanmcshanehill895 she really did! I just posted a video on how Hilary is the blueprint on to my page if you would like check and see it
They have a chance with Olivia Rodrigo, she’s getting pretty big
I mean the cast of HSMTMTS says otherwise
@@Laurica-lb6nv Girl i say this time and time again - i see you on every single video relating to hsmtmts😂
I think the transition from being a Disney star to a mainstream artist is difficult. After all they were known first as child stars 👸🏼😩
And Miley did the best💅🏽
@@user-xd7ql8of7b of course
Miley, Britney spears, and Selena Gomez, are the only ones who really succeeded in music after Disney. Zendaya is the only one I can think of who succeeded in acting after disney. Sabrina kinda succeeded in both, just not on the same level
@@Hope-si1kb yess
@@Hope-si1kb Christina and Justin also succeed, demi somehow as well but not as popular as her contemporaries, unfortunately other acts like the cheetah girls, high school musical cast, Jonas brothers, Aly and AJ, Shake it up, ant farm, etc. Only received a modest success after Disney that was pretty forgettable
I think I remember when disney first started losing their touch, I think it was when they started segregating Disney by different continents. I remember when I was growing up after the hannah Montana era, they started introducing "Disney Asia" etc. Disney US started getting pulled from non US households and alot of their international fanbase started to get confused with the dates of shows, as each continent, sometimes even country, would have different scheduling and even exclusive content, the inconsistencies was just annoying for alot of people.
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I remember as a kid (in Bulgaria), I used to watch on my TV old episodes, while friends of mine had English TV (Not sure if it was the American or the UK version). They were so much more forward and even some shows were never seen on the Bulgarian version as I recall. 😭
@@viktoriastoyanova9708 yesss exactly, we never saw half the stuff that aired on Disney channel US, it got so annoying at some point.
@@justarythm3 Yeah I know
Understandable I remember wanting to watch The Lodge but it was only available in the UK and I’m sure it would’ve lasted longer than it did if it wasn’t a British exclusive show.
Most of us 90s/2000s/early 2010s kids are lucky we grew up from corporations like Disney and Nickelodeon. Despite learning the dark side of these networks, we’ll always remember the good times when they made great shows and movies that would leave permanent marks on our childhood. We lived the good life when these programs came on and I feel bad that more generations to come will never understand what a magical time it was during these days!!! Kids these days deserve better stuff than what they got right now!!!
Early 10s though? I disagree with that part.
@semi that wasn't even the same as the early 2000's in quality and magic
@@PinkVampire21 To be fair, the shows that semi mentioned were popular even though they came out at the end of Disney’s prime. Around 2014-2015 when these programs were losing it big time.
@@PinkVampire21 Right, early 00s especially before 9/11 was very different and still had remnants of the late 90s.
I agree with you, especially about the early 2000s part
what about sabrina carpenter ?!! she’s another one of the extremely vocally talented artists who hasn’t taken off like miley and selena.
I love her she's so underrated.
Her era is when Disney already had a decline
Sadly it’s just a different era
She was at the end of Disney prime. I compare her success to the mickey mouse club kids. Like the video said she got more successful within their own right
@@blueisblue599 She’s not underrated, out of more recent disney starts she is probably the most successful, and she will only continue to grow
I feel like a lot of people are going to say Olivia Rodrigo, let’s just get this straight: (even though you said it in the video) Olivia is signed to Geffen/Interscope, a record company not affiliated with Hollywood Records. What this means is that Disney had no control whatsoever over her music career.
yeah but she probably wouldn’t be this big if she wasn’t on Disney
and I'm happy with that honestly because that means she got control of her music
olivia rodrigo carried every disney show shes ever been on. i feel like she would've gotten big of her own merit anyway
Disney doesn’t care about Disney channel anymore, they haven’t for a long time, u can see that in the horrible quality of the shows and dcoms, so naturally they don’t push their stars anymore. Hilary, Raven, Shia etc, is when they first started out with pushing their stars completely but just the right amount, Hilary being the blueprint for all the Disney stars after her, Raven was already well known before Disney, they just pushed her to new heights but Disney doesn’t have a good record of pushing their black girls like China, Coco etc. The last batch of fully pushed Disney stars were Miley, Selena, Demi, Jonas brothers, zac, Vanessa, cole and Dylan, etc. this is when disney was just cranking out star after star. The next era with Zendaya, Bella, Debby, Ross, China, Bridget etc, they were pushed but not as hard as the stars before them, and even then it was only really Zendaya, Bella, and maybe Bridget that were ever really pushed, they tried to make Debby and Ross something but it didn’t work out, this was when Disney started to not care as much about them. Then the era with Dove, Sabrina, Rowan etc, is when Disney just barley pushed them at all, and now they simply don’t care. Olivia was never pushed by Disney at all, so she technically isn’t a Disney star, she make work with Disney but Disney isn’t backing her.
The last good tv show is ravens home
I completely agree about the stars from the early 2010s.. That's when I noticed that there was barely any promo, like you said "they were pushed, but not as hard". I am 25 and even then I really wanted to watch Disney Channel, even the new stuff, but it was just so noticeably different.
And you're so spot on about the era with the Dove, Sabrina, etc.
Ross is fine, he still has R5 and he recently played Jeffery Dahmer in a movie
@@musiclover_kb4913 I love Ross but r5 ended in 2018, also that movie came out in 2018 as well, and the Sabrina show ended last year so
@@rjpar8244 Oh really? That movie was from 2018? Hmm I thought it was 2019. Also R5 ENDED? Damn, I thought they'd still be making music, what made them stop? The Sabrina show is already over? Again, DAMN.
None of my younger siblings can name any of the current shows on Disney Channel or their actors. Ever since Jessie ended, everybody lost interest.
Facts
No ever since season 2 ended of bunked everything just fell apart
@@Maymay-c it’s called summer camp now💀
@@soullessprincess6473 wtf 😂 they should’ve ended it as soon as the Ross kids left it doesn’t even hit the same anymore
I’ve lost interest before Hannah Montana and Suite Life ended. Mainly because I was busy with school. When Jesse began, I just started my senior year of HS.
so in conclusion- disney's image is too bubble gum pop and positive for our cynical and depressed generation? lmao
You sum it up pretty nice
SNOWFLAKE GENERATION. THAT'S IT
@@wynignatius9289 Pffft. Sure Jan
As someone who finished high school in 2012, it makes me sick.
Pretty much, unfortunately.
another thing, is that with the decrease in quality of the actual shows could've been a factor but just a theory
Andi Mack is the only recent disney show that is good
Do y'all remember the show that aired after Girl's Meet World. I forgot its name, it was about 2 friends that could time travel i think. I felt that show straight out plagerized GMW. It had real bad plots and cheesy scripts.
@@chimmyproductions8926 best friends whenever, my sister used to love that show
@@Rynsworld365 dang i really didn't like it.
@@chimmyproductions8926 neither did i, really bad writing
gmw= mcdonalds sprite
bfw= 2 day watered down version of sparkling water
They probably just realize that there is no way to produce stars anymore most famous people come from youtube instagram souncloud ect.
I mean look at Victorious (which isn’t a Disney show but still a great example) they put Victoria at the for front of everything even going the lengths of only giving her solo singing scenes but Ariana grande a side character with litteraly no singing parts became a Grammy winner
I think Ariana also had much more dedication and passion for music which really shined through.
@Fairysoo THANK YOU
@Chrry Cola Victoria wasn’t about “fame” she was about acting singing was the second thing she cared about
I liked Disney songs tho, they were sweet, positive and motivating. I'm not an expert or anything but I feel as if many of the famous songs that come out these days have a lot negativity, or feelings of loss, pain, hurt, betrayal or simply just a lot of vulgar words. I mean it's great that the artists are sharing so much with us through their music but I would sometimes wish for music to be my sweet escape and they don't feel like that. I listen to hannah montana songs even now and they're very feel-good type, lift my mood up💜.
"I feel as if many of the famous songs that come out these days have a lot negativity, or feelings of loss, pain, hurt, betrayal or simply just a lot of vulgar words."
This is why people are starting to like Kpop.
@@trinah8812 oh😅 I don't really listen to Kpop tho
@@trinah8812 i don't listen to kpop but i've checked out some of the more underrated artists and their songs can be pretty dark too. i think the reason why we see and hear more of the negative/vulgar songs is because of social media. i don't think they're particularly bad but people are becoming more open with mental health and the artists are just reflecting that.
a bit off topic but i think as the pandemic is finishes, the feel-good songs will start to come back 🤞🏽
I still listen to HM songs once in a while and I guess you summed up best what I miss about music.
@@nidhi2693 I don’t listen to KPop either
I feel like Disney was popular and in its prime at the right time and that caused everything to feel so nostalgic even thought it ended not long ago,
With Olivia Rodrigo, I still think Disney has the possibility to gain success again
@@angelinebena9675 possibly but that’s Disney plus not Disney channel if that makes sense
Don't forget Sabrina Carpenter, Sofia Carson and Dove Cameron. They are so talented but underrated
Dove Cameron is absolutely amazing.
I’m a fan of Dove and Sofia too
Dove was one of the last manufactured girls. She signed a contract and immediately started recording music and acting in shows. But she is actually insanely talented and I'm obsessed with her new song, Lazy Baby.
Those girls were on Disney when Disney started declining. That's why they are so underrated, especially Sofia Carson.
Because Disney writing and effort is deteriorating. Y’all never noticed that a lot of these new shows are getting more and more lazy in terms of writing compared to these old shows for the same demographic
The only one in recent years that was the same quality as old shows but not as popular was andi Mack. That show was so well done and tackled issues like single motherhood and teen pregnancy really well.
i’ve noticed that disney’s animated shows (owl house, amphibia, ducktales 2017, etc.) have been getting a lot more buzz than their live action shows over the last few years. i think that’s also a factor.
@@whatthehellisthis Yeah I feel like there's more effort put into Disney Channel's animated shows than in their live action shows.
@@amaltaher2717 Yes to everything u said, I'll add to that by saying Andi Mack was also one of the few to be single-camera and it was by the creator of Lizzie McGuire, so that helped
@@whatthehellisthis also bluey is a really good animated show from Disney
People like Dove Cameron, Sabrina Carpenter, and Olivia Rodrigo are considered Disney stars, but I feel like they aren’t as tied to the Disney label. Yes they had their own shows and music on Disney but it didn’t get the initial stardom that girls like Miley, Raven, and Hillary Duff got. They exploded and everyone saw them as celebrities outside of Disney. I think it took a while for Sabrina to get her name known and Dove became more known after she left her show, Oliva is probably the most famous at this time.
I didn't even know Olivia was from Disney!
@@maevab2923 she was in bizardvarrk and currently in the spin off of high school musical
So true! All 3 of them have potential to make it big and make pop bangers. I agree Olivia is the most relevant right now
Sabrina deserves so much more.. Hollywood records did her dirty.. I hope she gets the hype she deserves.. She has so much potential
As a fan of Liv & Maddie and Descendants, I’m bitterly surprised
I can proudly say that grew up during 2004-2014 Disney channel era 😁😁😂😂
ME too
those are like 2 or 3 different eras lol
For me 2001-2008 were the best years for disney channel
@@lalaland2107 oh really 😂😂
@@hamletvillilo6838 yeah, but that doesn't matter. It's great that you had that many different eras.
I mean, almost all of their Disney Channel stars turned their backs on them or called them out on their shit once they grow up. They're too scarred they will get more backlash.
Except Zendaya. She’s technically still working for them...in you know...the MCU Spider-Man movies...
did anyone else always think that the “D” in the Disney font looked liked a backwards “G”... 1:16
Finally someone else
for my whole life i couldn't see the D and just saw a G
absolutely always thought it was a “G”
Yes I thought it was just me but I still never pronounced it like Gisney
(The algorithm would suggest this video for me...)
I just want to add that there is an interesting case of this in Latin America. In the last decade, they produced a couple of shows that became megapopular there and in Europe, one of which was produced during the era where they failed to make anything really relevant (besides Descendants). "Violetta" and "Soy Luna" blew up to the point where they had big stadium tours and some of their stars have seen great success, whether it be music, acting, or just being a familiar face (TINI™, Karol Sevilla, Jorge Lopez, and Valentina Zenere are the big examples I can think of). Like, it was probably very hard to escape those two shows in many countries. And then their latest show "BIA"... well, either it didn't meet their expectations or they sabotaged it, depending on who you ask. It's really interesting to me because BIA came right after Soy Luna, but it somehow wasn't able to carry on its momentum. The 'rona definitely contributed to its downfall, but even before that, it was getting clear that it wasn't gonna be the next big thing. -which imo is a shame since it has the best music of the three- Recently, the executives for the Latin American division said that they aren't gonna be producing any more original local projects for Disney Channel and have shifted their focus on Disney+, so I wonder if their next big star will come from there.
sabrina deserves better her discography is so good.... i hope island records does her justice because hollywood records did her so dirty
Hollywood records never promoted her at all like everyone is sleeping on her. Been with her since eyes wide open
True sadly I think she will be overshadowed by up and coming stars (like olivia) I love both of them so much and wish they could both succeed
The only mistake she made for her career is signing with Hollywood records.. that to for 5 years..
Even if they didn't promote her well.. her music spoke for her.. she still got so much recognition but definitely deserves a lot more..
Her music and talent has so much potential.. I hope her music blows up even more like On my way did globally.. and she gets the hype she deserves.
funny how you didn't mention the big phat elephant in the room, what genre rn is perfecting the Disney brand of: well dressed, clean cut, beautiful looking, know how to sing/dance, vibrant colorful MVs & over all carters to teen audiences & fan service: KPOP
Yes. Songs like SHINee's Atlantis.
@@trinah8812 shinee has nothing to do with Disney lol. Although SM really acts like a Disney 2.0
even JPOP they also have that. But the difference is, JPOP has more freedom
@@wynignatius9289 JPOP has more freedom than who? Some Kpop acts have control, some don't. Taemin for example has total control over his music.
@@PureHoneyBoo I used SHINee as an example of a group that can sing and dance.
At the end of the day Disney doesn't need them when they own the rights to Queen and AC/DC's music lol
What????
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@@vanessax6092 YEAH LMAOO. They own their music rights
@@inkiadk I also heard the own fx and other shit now
@@Maymay-c Yeah since like 2019 when they bought FOX
Damn they don't make them like this anymore.
-Kanye West
I ask, because I’m not sure, does anybody make real shit anymore?
@@finnmckentyslanderaccount409 Good point, also a factor.
@@spotlightspanther I think it was the success of The Mickey Mouse Club- with Britney, Christina, Justin and Ryan G as their big stars, they skyrocketed to stardom having no more affiliations with Disney but finding their own record labels and crafting the teen idol handbook with polished looks, elaborately choreographed routines and inoffensive lyrics then maturing their sound with a raunchier image to match.
They changed how the music landscape should look, with the Disney stars of 2000s and early 2010s- Lindsay, Hilary, Miley, Selena, Demi-taking it new levels of edginess that at first, it is seen as "wearing out the shock value for all its worth" but at a later time, celebrated as liberation for abandoning the squeaky clean image their forced into at a young age (With Hilary as an exception for she never used her sex appeal to sell records and Lindsay was labelled was the ultimate Hollywood trainwreck, which is very unkind)
They were teenagers, they're bound to be curious about the adult world but Disney is super strict about the content they can be exposed to or show as their target demographic is consistent of 8 year olds.
i feel like new disney stars don’t have that same kinda allure about them. they couldn’t top it
I don’t think it’s the stars themselves, I think they just aren’t pushing them to be bigname celebs like they used to. They’re giving up on Disney channel and focusing on Disney + at this point. I wouldn’t be surprised if Disney channel doesn’t exist at all in 5 years
Olivia rodrigo anyone ? Dejavu
And driver license are the two most top songs
she wasn’t pushed by disney though, she blew up on her own
@@anikamano5030 she’s still associated with Disney that’s the thing also she’s part of Disney plus then Disney channel
Also Nickelodeon stars too. Looking back, the Victorious cast was probably the most interesting and the most talented out of them all. Ariana Grande is a generational talent, Liz gillies is a wonderful actress, Leon Thomas has Grammys under his belt and is a phenomenal producer, I can go on. There hasn’t been a cast since then with that kind of... just talent.
I was obsessed with Hilary Duff and Cheetah Girls growing up
Sameee
It's because back then everyone used to watch Disney channel religiously and people like Hillary, Raven, Selena and Miley etc used to be their teen idols. Nowadays, every kid is on social media and their teen idols are Charlie and Dixie
Olivia Rodrigo and Sabrina Carpenter are more recent Disney stars that are really popular right now.
Olivia is but Sabrina will not last. No offence it’s just what I’m seeing. She doesn’t have the same appeal as Olivia
Sabrina is so amazing and underrated. She does not deserve any of the hate she gets.
@@igiveyouthefacts Sabrina is her senior for that matter.. and the only reason people still find her underrated is because her record label did her no good.. they didn't promote her music well or do anything for publicity.. but no one can deny her music and her talent deserves much more recognition and hype.. now that she has switched to another record label.. don't worry, she'll only grow more.. cause She has so much potential.. She's not the one to give up simply because of a stupid drama..
Olivia And Sabrina Deserves Their Success But People Complain About Disney Not Making Any More Stars In Recent Years But When 2 Girls Who Were From Disney Get Popular, People Create Fake Drama. Like It's Not Only Disney's Fault, It's Also The Audience's Fault
@@igiveyouthefacts that’s such a weird comparison. Olivia just started her career this year whereas sabrina already has 4 albums out and has a successful acting and directing career. How do you know a brand new star with 1 big hit is going to outlast a star that’s been popular for years already? Not saying Olivia won’t be very successful because I’m sure she will; but you seem quite biased.
I also think that the Disney stars back then weren’t afraid to “go there” with their music along with slightly edgier shows which aided in their commercial success whereas nowadays Disney channel musicians are so cheesy and “pg” that no one wants to listen. Olivia was so smart about not signing with Disney, because I doubt she would have had as much creative freedom as she does now and her music would be trash.
I also think that the people who were really heavy into Disney during its heyday are all grown up now, which has made Disney as a channel, along with their shows, decrease in popularity.
I know what u mean, there was a bit of an edge to the earlier shows especially with the jokes and the kind of references they were allowed to make. Even Stevens made references to artists like Sisqo and Limp Bizkit, and got away with using the word sexy 3 different times. Louis (Shia's character) once tried and failed to say "voulez-vous coucher avec moi", which is french for "Do you wanna sleep with me tonight?" Lizzie McGuire made references to Eminem and Ja Rule, and the word "Gigolo" was used in an episode of the Proud Family. Gigolo is not a kid-friendly word so to hear that in an early 00s Disney Channel show had me shook
Because people have now started to find out what Disney actually is.
I was just thinking that Disney would stop manufacturing child stars only because we are in the streaming era, kids don't be watching channel 41 no more they be watching YT netflix or disney+, so it wouldn't make sense to invest so much in a single child star to make them "the next big thing" (damn, do y'all remember that?) Seems like so long ago, yet not that long ago all at the same time.
Most kids these days don't watch or care for disney because they have youtube, tiktok, netflix etc. So that's a huge reason why Disney doesn't have any recent stars. I knew Disney was going downhill when they had Jake paul on there.
disney doesn’t create superstars anymore
olivia rodrigo: hold my driver’s license
nah she isn’t a “disney music star” since she isn’t signed to Hollywood Records. She was signed to Interscope/Geffen, meaning that Disney has virtually no control over her music career.
@@davie9944that’s why she’s able to have the freedom of making explicit songs compared to past Disney stars that could barely breathe on a song lmao
@@owene869 omg that reminds me of when Selena Gomez released Hit The Lights and everyone lost their shit cause she said the word “damn” 😂
Who dat
@@sunrope77 nobody cares about saying damn because Miley was already doing controversy since party in the usa
I think the most recent would be Zendaya but she did that herself it wasn't Disney produced
Ig Olivia rodrigo is the only one that has come out popular from Disney in the last (5?) years... but not to the level of Selena Gomez or Demi lovato *yet*
Yeah I agree
yet ^^
Yeah she had potential. She is can sing better than selena and her songwriting skills are better than demi
i mean olivia rodrigo ....
Chloe x Halle were also affiliated with Disney, though they weren’t really “Disney Girls”
They still have contracts within that world. They are stars on a Freeform show which is of course owned by Disney.
Social media and how we consume media changed so much! So now there’s so many platforms that are competing with disney so it could never be that era of Disney or Nickelodeon stars. Im glad i grew up in that era when this magic was still happening even though im not a fan of their manufacturing and controlling ways they did at times we realized was happening as we became adults.
Also the era of restrained label popstar is not the same anymore and that’s a good thing! I’m excited to see how the new pop era unfolds
Olivia Rodrigo is definitely going to be the last one i think. Or, at least she would be the last succesful one
What do you mean the last successful? She already blew up and she only has two singles out. She has more streams & listeners then Sabrina, dove Cameron, & Sofia Carson (which are other past/current Disney stars) . She’s been the only one thriving in music recently while being on Disney !!
@@missbarbz7243 i think they meant she'll be the last superstar to come out of Disney Channel, like there won't be more after her.
@@missbarbz7243 This person is saying "last successful" as in there will be no more Disney superstars after her that not in terms of ranking.
Yeah but Disney didn't even make Olivia. She's not signed to any Disney record labels.
@@phantasma616 ohhh I understand now
The part about giving credit to Miley for breaking away from the brand of Hannah Montana is so true. I never thought about how hard that would have been for her to do such an iconic role where her character was the household name, but she really has done well for herself. You don’t see miley and automatically think of Hannah Montana, at least not anymore
I loved her Younger Now CD
Sabrina Carpenter and Dove Cameron were in successful Disney movies/tv shows as well and while they're super talented, they fail to get to the level of fame Selena, Demi and Miley have had
@@SlapstickGenius23 she wasn’t in zombies tho 😂
Dove isn't backed by Disney anymore and her label isn't pushing her.
What is on Disney anymore? I feel that Disney and Nickelodeon has phased out over time, it is as dry as a Sahara desert...bone dry
dont sleep on sabrina carpenter yall, SC5 is coming, her last 2 albums 'singular' are chefs kiss ✨
Yesss.. I hope her new record label does her goodd.. her music has the potential to be on the topp
she's really good. But i bet she'll have the same fate as Tove Lo, Carly Rae Jepsen or any underrated artists with cult fanbase
@@wynignatius9289 She's best known for her Acting career, first Disney and now Netflix. And starred in popular films with exceptional performances. She has already set her mark as an Actor.
But that being said, her Music Career does get regonition but definitely not enough, considering her potential. And her past record label didn't do much for her publicity and neither did she get into any drama.
Now that things have changed a lot, and she has switched record label.. we don't know what destiny has written for her.. but I hope for the best since she deserves so much better.
Olivia rodrigo is getting pretty big rn
Olivia Rodrigo is there now
Has anyone also noticed that disney has started cussing in their tv shows and movies now? I'm like "IT'S A KID'S NETWORK LIKE FR FR"
Can you give an example?
@@andreasmeelie1889 i think shes getting disney plus confused with disney channel
@@andreasmeelie1889 high school musical the musical the series but they bleep it out
Disney+ is more for tweens rather than children
@@asmaakbarr really? I don’t really remember that from the show. I have to watch it again.
I loved you video, but its a shame you dindt mention Sabrina Carpenter as she is also one of the last stars from diseny
The Walt Disney Company doesn’t prioritise this model anymore they get their foot in in other ways Beyoncé’s Lion King The Gift and the Black Panther Album.
With the rise of Olivia Rodrigo they may return to that model of manufacturing stars because when they find a cow they gonna milk it.
But that makes no sense since Disney didn’t have any say in her music career. She’s signed to Interscope/Geffen, not Hollywood Records. There is no way in hell they’d let one of their own recording artists say “fuck”.
@@davie9944 As Honest said one artist makes a career of music and the next find themselves signed to Hollywood Records
Also on saying Fuck she is in season 2 of her show on disney plus she hasn’t been booted she will make more songs promotion is promotion as they manage hulu and disney plus they aren’t really that family friendly company anymore
I wish the Disney formula had continued to work for some people, like Bridget Mendler and Coco Jones, and even Olivia Holt.
THE SHOW ARE BORING NOW
True
EXACTLY, I REFUSE TO WATCH ANY DISNEY CHANNEL SHOWS THAT STARTED AFTER 2018
@@forrmyheart there just pure cringe
The acting is so bad. Also they were really dumb for continuing bunkd after the og cast left.
@@forrmyheart YES
They aren't rlly SUPER stars but I think Sabrina Carpenter and Dove Cameron are pretty iconic.
The only notable new Disney Channel star who is semi-popular, I'd say, is Sabrina Carpenter
Great Analysis! But if you really wanna do a deep dive into Disney History, when it comes to Disney Superstars, I didn’t originally start with Britney and Christina. It all started with Annette Funicello.
Celebrities are created on social media now, they should probably consider managing these social media stars and giving them access to all they Disney resources.
I feel like people don't even think of Disney when it comes to Olivia Rodrigo, cuz she looked familiar to me but I couldn't remember how. I had to look her up and she's from Bizaardvark....
Olivia Rodrigo is blowing up tho...like I’m very happy about that cuz she’s so talented
she’s not signed to disney, meaning that hey have no control over her musical career whatsoever
@@davie9944 ohh...I thought she did cuz of Disney plus 😭
She is not exactly a Disney product I think, since her success came from her own music and lyrics unlike the other stars were their hits were given to them
@@kevinr9270 she's signed to Geffen/Interscope. She also writes her own music and has creative control. So...she isn't really a product of Disney Channel in terms of music. Also, majority of people didn't even know who she was until DL came out. She's getting recognition for her music rather than being an actor from "Disney channel"
@@tammytt76 Honestly im so happy for her, and glad she is not stuck in a horrible contract
Olivia Rodrigo?
Do you remember Disney’s NBT??? “Next Big Thing” omg I remember wanting to be on that but now I realize I would’ve been signing up for life-long trauma. it’s scary how they trained kids into being celebrities
I remember that. I used to love that segment. Shawn Mendes and Alessia cara were also on there
currently the most successful act from the nbt is chloe x halle, but the rest most likely didnt make it into the mainstream scene
H.E.R. and Chloe x Halle were on it. Their definitely the most successful from it.
@@user-ux3vw6mb4k i dont remember h.e.r. being on it but she’s another successful nbt act
@@kernd.9221 she went as her real name gabi Wilson at the time.
I think social media had alot to do with it cause now anyone can be famous.
Its not special or valuable anymore
It's an interesting shift for sure. Like with Olivia Rodrigo, Disney helped her with the climb up but it doesn't define her.