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- Keeping 44’ of RV clean can be a challenge! Check it out as we try truck washes (including Blue Beacon), a $400 hand wash/wax, and or favorite DIY methods!
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Whether you have a standard gel coat, or full body paint, everyone likes their RV to be clean and shiny! The bigger the RV, the more difficult that task becomes. With a 44' RV and Full body Paint, we have tried a LOT of ways to keep this baby clean! In this video, we check out a few truck washes, including Blue Beacon and Pride Truck Wash. We also get a professional wash and wax and show you our favorite way to dry wash in any RV Park: Wash Wax All!
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That’s a great way for them in between cleanings. I’m from Iowa and I do some washing and detailing on RV’s in the off season at a park N of Tampa. I really recommend having a good full detail done at least once a year. My washes include the roof awnings and sides. I have seen many clean the roofs with high pressure which is a BIG NONO! Everything should be washed with very low pressure and some elbow grease. Most of my customers are elderly people and they never go on their roof. So when I wash their RV I always do a roof inspection for them for free. I check for any damage or any potential problems that may arise, such as how the dicor around vents,pipes, and skylights look. I’ll take photos to show the customer what’s going on. I’m probably one of the very few that does this but the most important part of the RV is the roof. I also recommend having your roof rubber membrane roof conditioned after it has been cleaned. So I know how you said it’s a little expensive having the detail crew come out and clean it but it may save you $ in the long run by having someone on the roof cleaning and checking for potential problems in the future. Like your channel by the way!
If you’re still in the Tampa area, are you a mobile detailer? Would love to have you service mine before I sell it! Lol
@@hurco8295 usually down that way in the winter months
I love these two! It’s rare to see a true TEAM like they clearly are. Lots of true love for each other which is just rare.
Thank you for this content. This is an important process we all need to do our best at. I have struggled with our new trailer. Backing into car washes that are tall you name it. Your experiences and advise is very helpful. My pickup camper sold after 24 years well because I took care of it. Our new trailer will get the same care but is sometimes harder to care for. Thanks for the tips. Take care.
For the dryer sheet use, use them after you have used them in the dryer. Gunk is gone. Sprayway Glass Cleaner and a microfiber cloth works really well as a "dry" wash.
Hmmmm.. haven't tried a "spent" one before... Thanks for the tip! 👍🏼
I second the wash and wax kit. But I do think that the quick extend retract function of the pole can’t be overstated. I looked all over for a pole that worked as well and couldn’t find one. It gets tiresome loosing and tightening a collar on most extendable poles. We have had our kit for over a year and it still works great. High quality set up! Great video
Wash All is great, I have been using it on my motorcycles and truck for years. The tire dressing is great as well.
An acid wash works great, but I would only use it on the front of the truck, and the nose front of the trailer. The secret is to not just spray it on and wash it off after using a brush. I do smaller sections, scrub, and rinse. Leave it on for 15 minutes and your paint will look oxidized. We used it in the Bakken and the Class 8's would come in covered in oil from all of the big engines running while fracturing. The stuff we used came from a chemical manufacturer in Utah, and the oil would come right off.
I've used the Blue Beacon truck washes. Typically stopping at the last one near my destination. They're great and surprisingly affordable.
As for the Wash Wax All, we use that at work for keeping our helicopters looking good. Among other things, it allows us to wash them in the heated hangar, instead of a wet wash outside in the cold. And you can just do the sections that need it.
Love the info in this video. It was funny hearing about the live bugs. When I was owner operator, Louisiana completely drained the swamp that you go across on I12 in 2003 I believe. You literally had to stop on either end of the bridge and clean your grill and windshield as the truck started running hot. My red truck turned black with love bugs. Safe travels and keep the vids coming.
If love bugs just ceased to exist, there would be a lot of happy people! LOL
We were introduced to this at a Passport America rally in 2015. Have used it since and like yall said it works on everything. Happy Trails folks, by the way if you ever get to the Tetons plz stop in and say hello at GVCG. We are in Loop E.
We lived in Miami Everglades until moving to South Carolina. Chris and Nancy were great, did a wonderful job on our unit.
I've had great success cleaning love bugs with baby shampoo. I only use it on the front facia and mirrors and it makes for easy removal. 18 years of Florida living taught me that!
It's up to $68 😏 Inflation is hitting everything. I really appreciate all of your wisdom. There's no way I could do this without TH-cam and channels like yours!! I love you guys!!
Four hundred for a good detail and wash once in a while is worth it to keep the rig looking right. That dry wash is great as long as you keep after it and don’t let it get too nasty. Another great video. Thanks
Thank You I am new @ this and alone in a 99 class A Fleetwood so I needed all of this information
I am sure you have but check out no Rinse products I’m using this stuff to do my motorhome and vehicles , it’s incredible everywhere I go somebody says how do you get that shine. RV fun with Thomyt!
I'm a new owner of a Grand Design full body paint and this info was just what I needed.
The outtakes were fantastic,!
I've been using the Wash Wax All for the last year, it work great and makes the quick clean when we get home from trips super easy. I think it's getting easier to clean the bugs off the more I use it on the front cap.
I used two different Blue Beacon stops, one in Salt Lake City $70 and the other in Denton, Texas $60 (DFW Metro Mess) and was pleased both times. I cannot for the life of me figure what the difference in price was but both wash crews did a fine job. We waited for an hour in line at each stop but didn't mind at all, since we're retired we're not in any particular hurry. Blue Beacon definitely will get my business from now on. I got the RainX both times and I've been pretty happy with the results.
Thank you for your video regarding truck washes. I have a 45 ft Entegra anthem Diesel Pusher and I was not sure about truck washes until I just watched your video. I will now check out the blue beacons when I'm on the road. I will also stay away from Mom and Pop truck washes after seeing what they did to your RV.... Thank you guys for what you do as a fellow rver we appreciate it!
Thank you for another informative video with both...things that worked well and not so much. I’m thinking that wonderfully substantial extension pole could be dual purposed and used to raise your antenna in place of your 10’ PVC, which I am sure has been cut down by now. Safe travels and keep the memories magical.
LOL! Yep! it's a 5' pole now and being used to type this... 😀
I noticed a Blue Beacon in Shreveport on our way back from a trip to Texas. Wanted to stop but wasn't sure if they take care of RVs. I'll give them a try based on your advice. Also, I like the Dry wash idea for in-between cleaning. As always thanks for the tips especially using dryer sheets to get the bugs off. Bugs seem to love the hot humid weather in Louisiana. Lol
Ron Oboogie and all: we have a 35’ Bounder 13 years old and we pay for an Annua hand wax ($350) then we BBeacon with our TOAD getting no acid; no brushes EXCEPT REEFER VENTS->> NO SPRAY, BRUSH VENTS ONLY then rinse from above!!!!
BBeacon with Rain X $50 to $66, depending on location - we ❤️ Blue Beacon Washes! They recycle their water also.
GREAT VIDEO, guys!
I have been using same product for years. Works great! Once again I agree with you guys. Keep up the great videos.
On the truck washes... Pride in Frankfort is horrible, but one in Shepherdsville is ok, one in Hobart IN is great! After 400k miles best wash I’ve ever found is Danny’s in Phoenix. 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 Amazing services, staff are friendly, and they offer full detail under a covered 3 bay area. On the “acid”, you need to say “NO BRIGHTENER”. That what they call it because it “brightens” the aluminum on the semis. Lastly, when using these you need to ask if their location recycles their water. If so you need to make sure you get the fresh rinse and towel dry the truck.
Do it yourself... best products I’ve ever found is Adam’s wash, wax, and detail sprays. Be careful using waterless washers. If you have too much dust on the rig you will wipe it into the clear coat. You do NOT want to have to clay bar a RV! 😣 Lastly, I will use Castrol’s GT super lean on my rims and tires. It’s just harsh enough to get rid of the brake dust, but not harsh enough to harm paint or aluminum.
Love your guys channel. You and KYD are primarily who I watch. Love that your so open about trying to help others or those trying to learn 👍🏻
Oh yea.. whenever we have lots of dust on the rig, we find a wet wash option. We had LOTS of dust and dirt from that sand in the video... Thanks for watching, Brian! 😊
Love Blue Beacons when we are traveling. If I have to wash on the road, and the park allows it, I only use water. I'll wash with soap 2x year at my sons house.
When we go to Florida in January we always get the rv detailed, which is wash and hand waxed. The detailed told us that if we have it done by hand once a year then just wash wax every couple of months that would take care of the finish
Yes, Alcohol for tree sap absolutely works fantastic.
We use Hydrogen Peroxide ti remove love bugs. It works best if you get them off within a few hours.
Bugs ‘N All from Amazon is the best thing I’ve found for getting rid of what I call Elfrida bugs. Elfrida is in the middle of the agriculture area in Cochise County and they have bugs made of super glue!
Thanks for all your great videos. I know this is an old video. Do you still use the wash-wax all kit or have you gone to something new?
MAGIC SPONGES ... my wife loves those things!
I kept waiting on the acid joke and then when she was trying to get you to say “extend” all I could think of was the game show $10,000 pyramid 😂🤣😂
We love you guys ! We learn so much from watching you. Keep it real and keep it honest ! Catcha down the road !!
Thanks for the sap removal tip! Have had spots on my white King Ranch Super Duty for over 2 years. Hand sanitizer took them right off! Thanks!!!!
As a long long time professional in paint restoration and correction $400 is a bargain basement steal!! When I do this work I'm a perfectionists the paint is show car flawless but I understand this was not a requirement for you. Still had you called me for a job like this I would have been close to $2500. What that guy did for $400 was great for you but he earned less than $200 a day after product cost and helper cost. My 16 year old niece charges $400 just to wash, dry, clean windows and shine the tires and she's got all the work she can handle.
Another great informative content! Yeah, the kit is a little pricey but it’s a value to be able to wash your rig anywhere & know it’s done right! Thanks again for all you do making your videos, very helpful!
Im a owner operator and and I LOVE blue Beacon they always do an amazing job on my truck. Great video guys! enjoy watching your adventures!
Our visit to a Blue Beacon included the option of having our class A dried. One price for the windows
only ($20 I think) and ($40 ??) for the whole coach (not the roof). Opting for the windows we watched
the two workers go above and beyond by also drying the wheels and spraying dressing on the
tires. They got a big tip from us !! I will be looking for the Wash-Wax All. Thanks for all the good info!
Pine Pitch? Castrol Super Clean. It's the only thing I've found that removes pine pitch. Full strength, clean cloth, small circular motion. Works great. Todd and Anna in New Hampshire. BTW. Love your videos.
Always lamb wool pad should be used. Invest in a simple chuck water deionizer, small electric pressure washer and foam gun and you could get that rig clean in under 2 hours. We get our 37 foot class A done in under 90 min.
My neighbor has a full paint job & had his ceramic coated with 3 coats, expensive yes but mantaince is super super easy.
We purchased this last summer and love it. Like you, we sprayed on the surface then wiped and buffed. We later learned that it is better to spray the wet pad, scrub then buff. You use much less cleaner and it doesn't dry too fast. We haven't tried that yet but will the next time we wash.
We really loved this video, so much info and we loved how you didn't hesitate to show the fails as well as the successes. Great Video!
Thanks! We're outlining a video now over everything that's broken in the bast 1.5 years... Nothing big.. but want to cover it..
Oh youre telling me? 🤣. Ive watched a few of your vids....he seems like a really nice guy.
Great video! We have been full time for 6 months and had no idea how many rv parks do not allow washing. I’ve thought about washing the rig the day I leave but I like your solution better.
My maiden name is Platt!!! @lifeinarv
My kit came with a degreaser also, good stuff
Thank you for the review! We like Blue Beacon -- used the one in Eloy, AZ. Pretty reasonable in our opinion, but can't beat your own hand detailing. We were using the RV Wash/Wax, along with the Protect-All Rubber Roof Treatment. Pretty labor intensive as it took a few days to complete the job on our 30' GD 5ver. The rubber roof treatment was a challenge due to my acrophobic issues and hubby (although a Fireman) had some issues on the roof. We will certainly try that Wash Wax All.
Acid will dull shine on your aluminium wheels, and you will need to polish them out. Rain X is good too use.
The acid is used on rims and tanks on the semi truck to clean them b4 polishing, there not shiny or polish aluminum so they half to be polished on a regular basis. Not always use of the acid. But when they get to cruddy especially after winter. Lol drivers call the bluebeacon the streaking beacon. Jus a little inside humor there lmbo
Yea.. we've heard that in a few comments.. LOL
Beacons citrus cleaner is safe and well worth the expense. Another option some beacons off is undercarriage wash. Nice for the pickup especially during the winter. Another good national chain is truckomat. $400 for a detail is a bargain btw. I'm like you twice a year would be plenty
We started taking our 2021 Keystone Montana to Blue Beacon and they have done a great job.
W-D40 removes sap, tar, etc perfectly :)
We’ve used Wash Wax All for years, works great. For a refill, buy the concentrate. For bugs we use Bug n’ All. Spray on, let sit for a few minutes and wipe bugs off.
Thanks for the tip! Will check it out... 👍🏼
I have just completed prepping the rubber roof for applying the sealer coating. I had the same black spots on my roof. To remove them I used 1gal. of house hold bleach with 1gal of water in a garden tank pump sprayer. thoroughly wet the roof, let it stay on for at least 10 min.apply more if it starts to dry out. Brush heavy spots, and rinse. The two gal. was enough to do a 40ft fifth wheel.Plan on washing the rest of your RV right after the roof.
Thanks for the tip! 😊
Try Top Coat F11! I use it on my Indian and love it! The more you use it the better it works.
I agree it's great stuff, unfortunately I can't afford the $$$$$$ prices for what you get.
Would probably be ok for a motorcycle, but fir a 44 ft. Toy hauler it would be way out of my budget.
@@truetexan7755 I agree totally. We love it for our F250, but it is pretty pricey! We primarily use it on the chrome, interior, and exterior mirror housing and steps. It's pretty spendy at $50+ for a small bottle. So we use Collinite for the body and Top Coat for the other details.
Lol on the outtakes! Great video Chad and Tara! FYI. Alcohol while cleaning the RV, should be a mandatory!
Thanks for the video, I am about 15 min from Everglades RV Park in Miami. Will add Chris and Nancy detailers to my list.
Great vlog guys, well done. Thanks for the info, time, and for sharing your experience...
While camping in Upstate NY, we ended up with pine sap on the inside of our tinted windows. I called the Tint folks and they recommend over 90% isopropyl alcohol. Worked like a champ so I tried It on the bike and the truck!👍💪😄👍💪😄
One thing I like to use on my vehicles for bugs is one of those sponges and has a sort of net around it in the same soap. So much easier.
Also, Turtle Wax Hybrid solutions Ceramic spray works amazing. It can be used on everything, plastics, painted surfaces, metal, and windows. It lasts for a long time. I use it on my fiberglass keystone laredo TT, and I cant speak of it highly enough. Its 13 a bottle at a Wally World, or Menards. There is a maintainer they have you use in between treatments. The ceramic spray goes on super easy, wipes off easy and it clings to the surface. It gives you a mirror finish.
Thanks for the tip Larry 👍
For bugs i use the green side of one of those little kitchen sponges.
Dryer sheets may work on the bugs but they are very harsh on the paint surface, There are many good bug removers at most any auto parts store. Love the content guys very down to earth and practical.
What? Holy Cow! It looked like they were scrubbing with shop floor brooms. I woulda been super upset. Wow.
Thanks for this video, we use Blue Beacon for the overall wash but am ready to pull the trigger on the kit. I use a cup of Murphy’s Oil Soap in a bucket of hot water for bugs. Dryer sheets scratch
Nice to see someone really take care of the paint 👊🏼
To answer your concern about the acid in the truck wash is to clean the oxidation off the metals and aluminum as most of the fuel tanks and sometimes the trailer itself is exposed and made of aluminum. It cleans and makes it much more presentable.
I’ve used Wash Wax All for the last four years and it works great. Once a year we have someone come out to our rig when we are at Myrtle Beach and wash and wax the house by hand. Cost is about $400 same as yours and she shines like a new penny.
As a trucker I've tried them all... ALWAYS us Blue Beacon!!! Never use the mom and pop truckwash. My rig is custom and show quality black paint. No brushing black paint!!!One thing to note is all truckwashes use acid to clean so if you use mcGuires carnuba wax or any other wax, this acid will eat the wax off. So wash infrequently. I find on my big rig it takes only 3 washes to have zero wax left. I do a straight wash no wax or rainx... It leaves a film. Always ask for an extra rinse
My truck wash is usually $108 because I also get tire dressing and hand dry
Tipping is not required
I also use the dry wash and it looks great!!!
The dry wash does a great job! Love the outakes, you guys crack us up! Great video!
Great Informative video. Now I have a tip for you, and others. If you use alcohol, usually IPA, or Iso propyl alcohol, it will strip off the oils and waxes from the paint. I would avoid using denatured as it is too strong and can damage decals. When Ceramic coating, or applying paint protection film, and when polishing paint prior to wax or coating, IPA is used to clean the oils and residue off. Wax it when done!! I have been using dry wash on my ceramic coated F150, two years later still shines like the day I did it. Glad to see there is a kit like this, going to add it to my list.
We just got our first 5th wheel and I am in the process of giving it it's first coat of wax. I hand wax the initial layer, and use spray and wash the rest of the time. 3 days so far and I am still not done! $400 is a steal!!! We have an Arctic Wolf 3660SUITE, 43' long.
Thanks for a thorough and helpful video. I have been curious about trying Blue Beacon for when the rig gets really filthy from travel in bad weather etc. I also love the wash system you showed from Aero Cosmetics, I am in love with the tools which will obviously make cleaning a large 5th wheel a whole lot easier and have been looking for a system of tools exactly like it. I plan to purchase the tools, ie the extendable pole, mop head and their microfiber mops for the head, but stick with my usual go to rinseless & waterless wash products (Optimum & Griots Garage). Reason being is first they have served me well, but more important because they come in a concentrate where you mix approximately 1 oz of product to 2 gallons of water making the concentrate about 5 times less expensive. The concentrate can also be mixed to different ratios, to create a rinseless wash, a water less wash and a clay lubricant from one product, so not having to buy 3-different products. Also you might check out the Rag Company for excellent microfiber towels of all kinds at the best prices I have seen.
Excellent video. You answered all the questions that this newbie had. Really appreciate you sharing your knowledge.
Welcome to our channel! 😊 Thanks for watching! 😊
I took your advice a long time ago when i asked you how you washed your rig and invested in the aeroworks products including the stuff you spray on your tires to combat against the UV degradation and love their products they work fantastic!
Awesome! So glad it's working for you! 👍🏼😊
This was a great topic video. We constantly struggle with keeping the rig clean and bug free. I'm going to definitely try the dryer sheets on our trailer
This information is awesome. Thank you for sharing. Love your bloopers.😊
As always, great info plus I really enjoy the "out takes". Dryer sheets are on the shopping list...
LOL... "Greeeen Acres is the place to be ... Farm livin is the life for me" !! Didn't think Chad was old enough to remember that very old 60s comedy .. ? ? ? lolol
Great video guys ... And AWESOME smile that Tara has :) :) :) Safe travels
It was one of those show that I really hated but watched because we only had 3 channels! LOL Times sure have changed!
I’m a truck driver. I. Use Blue Beacon sometimes. Not all of the have that big automatic trailer washer. Anyway, they won’t use the brushes on your vehicle unless you ask them to. They use a light acid that gets a good amount of the dirt off. It’s not perfect but it works. If you can, go at night or early in the morning. That’s when the lines are shorter. Early morning is probably better so you can see if the did a good job. They are called streakin’ Beacon for a reason. If they don’t do a thorough job you’ll know what I mean. Also, get the wax. The stuff they use can strip some of you wax off. They’re good for a simple was but they’re not as good as those guys that washed and wax your rig. That was expensive bug you rig looked damn good when they were finished.
Thanks for the tips! 👍🏼
I’m am going to break down and buy the wash & was all to satisfy my OCD with having a super clean RV. We are weekend warriors and I generally wash/detail before we go camping (usually 2 or 3 nights) then do a quick wash when we get back before I put it away.
Currently I start with purple power on wheels, tires then move to the RV. For that I use a foam/soap cannon on my pressure washer and spray down one side at a time, front & back are separate. I will use a soft brush on a pole and lightly brush it before rinsing. I use Chemical Guys soaps. Then after washing, I spray a matte finish tire protectant on tires then break out the leaf blower and quickly go over RV to get water out of books and crannies. Then simply wipe it down w/microfiber towels. Since day 1 I use F11, and wipe the entire coach, windows and all with F11 and I get asked all the time how do I get it looking so shiny, what do I use... it is a labor of love but the results are stellar.
I drive big rigs before and Blue Beacon or “Streaking Beacon” as we called them do ok to knock off a super dirty rig but lots of work left behind to really get it clean & shiny.
You guys are so cute, thanks for the great videos and the laughs at the end. 👍🏼God bless you 🌞😁❤
Use citrol 266 for bugs and tar remover safe for glass trimm plastic paint works absolutely awsome
I’m impressed the dry wash does not leave micro scratches in the clear coat.
This was a great video! We are new and just got back from a 1600 mile trip. Front cap was full of bugs. It was hard to scrub them off. I will have to try the dryer sheets next time. Thanks!
TheSixer211 maybe also try “Bugs N All” from Amazon. Enzymes eat bug guts not wax or paint.
The best bug cleaner you will ever use is Jax Wax Bugzapper!
I used wash wax all for a while. Now I use simple reflections cleaner. It's also waterless but I find the shine last longer.
Thanks for the review and all the details on how to keep your rig clean. Would not have thought to try the dryer sheet or hand sanitizer. Great info so us newbies know what we are getting ourselves in to. Will have to pick up one of those Waterless Wash /Wax kits when we hit the road (very soon). Have an awesome week!
RV Diem and ALL: we also use BUGS N ALL - an enzyme bug digester easy on wax n paint!!! Disolves bugs!!
First time I've watched you folks. Great presentation. Love the humor. Content is pretty good too. LOL
I use that same stuff on all my vehicles. It is awesome.
You guys are too funny!! You know I didn't think about this task thanks for showing the options. Phew I'd be pissed too about the bad wash and scratches, glad it got fixed.
I was going to ask about the bug stains, but then you mentioned the bug scrubber. Awesome...I got to get one of those kits...THANK YOU !!!
I'm not a full timer, so I have a building to wax rv in, but I tried F11 to wax the rv. It does a great job and is the easiest way to wax I have ever tried.
I just need to clean my conversion van and it won't fit through the standard carwash, but I think a truck wash might be overkill! I enjoyed your explanation of all the options you tried for your rigs, as well as the handy tips about dryer sheets and alcohol. My 2 kitties travel with me, and I know the pressure washer probably terrifies them at the diy carwash. 🤷 You probably have the cleanest setup on the road 😁 You should definitely get a credit/freebie for the free advertising (except for the first place, they're probably not going to get as much business 😳)😁
Super good and interesting video. We used the same spray on our airplane (sold it to buy an RV!!) Your videos are outstanding and a huge asset to us new (and older) guys RVing. Thank You and keep up the great knowledge videos we all need to know.
Alright! I got lucky. A RV'r told me about "Aero Cosmetics". (It works on water spots). And if it's good enough for aircraft... well, its good enough for this pilot. Chuckle. Thanks for the support on the product purchase!! 👍.
Love this video. some great ideas, Plus you guys are soo awesome, love they way you interact with each other and love the outtakes.
Thanks guys....definitely worth the money. Be safe on the road.
Have you tried Release before. Spray on wait 2 minutes wipe off then follow with dry cloth wipe.
You guys are awesome. I used Blue Beacon on my RV and no complaints. I had 6,000 miles on my Class C before I washed it. We moved almost everyday on our Sabbatical. 31 states in 2 months and 10971 miles. I'll try the Wash All from your link.
WOW! That's fast paced! 👍🏼
@@ChangingLanes It was but we wanted to see a lot of places and states. Now when we retire we will be living in luxury with longer stays.
Great video, that wash wax all looks like a great product. If anyone is in the Yuma area we stayed at foothills rv and in their brochure they listed a company that came out to the park, they hand washed and hand waxed with Meguirs wax our 38 foot class a for $99, yup $99 and they did a fabulous job.
Wow! That's a deal!
cool i just hand washed my 34 foot 5th wheel with no soap my wife has a norwex mop . it is a one hell of a job but it worked
Joe T. I was wondering how well those work. Is it the floor mop or window cleaning system or is it the same product? Do you recommend them? For this use.
Friggin outakes are 😂😂😂😂 this was really great info. I'll pass it onto my dad who also has a 44' house on wheels.
I have the Wash/Wax All kit also. I love it! I buy The Chemical Guys Waterless wash in the concentrate, and use that to make my gallons for this kit. Saves much money, and works, at least, as good as the stuff that comes in the kit.
Good tip! Will check that out, thanks!