I would just like to acknowledge I made it into a Spite video! My dreams are made. Also, super curious to see if normal people that watch the channel are interested in this kinda BTS stuff.
@@spitescorner I did. A video like this takes a lot of work to put together, but I appreciate it. It tells me more about you than a straightforward review can.
"Because I am a motorcyclist and my brain doesn't work like a normal human" I need this on a T-Shirt as a disclaimer to anyone I may interact with day to day....
Glad to see CaliMoto as a sponsor! I think they’re great for being able to just set a distance and it’ll find a twisty loop that brings you back where you started Edit: Also huge thank you for a peek behind the scenes!
Thanks for the BTS look. As casual viewers we don't tend to appreciate this all gets crammed into a few days (including travel time, that must be intense). Also if this is anything to go by there's a tremendously social aspect! Love that Honda's best selling motorcycle is The Grom XD
Spite, yes I did enjoy that behind the scenes look and transparency into how an influencer or content creator views the responsibility to deliver for the viewers when invited to something like a press launch. I used to run a channel and never got invited to something involving the press (my channel didn't bloom before I stopped producing) but I often wondered how such an event my make me elevate to a level as a responsibility to the viewers. Thanks!
There's always going to be some bias involved in a press launch, especially if it's to a more exotic location & they give you a bit of pampering. Journalists & reviewers also want to be invited back to these events because it's their livelihoods, so they're more likely to focus on the positives. It's just human nature. But, if a brand is big enough to hold a press launch they're big enough to be making bikes that are well built & reliable anyway. And already knowing all of the positives of the bike it allows you to focus on finding the niggling little negatives on the test ride to see if they're a deal breaker.
Thanks for the peek behind the scenes. This looks just like the firearms events I've been to. Even though I'm not a very social person, one of the parts I've come to enjoy are the dinner-table discussions with the reps and other journalists. All the folks I collaborated with genuinely were working toward the long game of maintaining their integrity. Keep it up, man. I appreciate your perspective.
Thanks for this well made video. I enjoyed a lot! Making those kind of "behind the scenes" videos requiere even more effort, but I think it's worth it as it shows clearly the reality of people doing moto journalism. Great work Spite!
I honestly think that most people making videos have way more value on their integrity than a lot of folks realise. I'm sure they way the experience is set up, new bikes, a track, selected roads etc, is all going to show the bike in it's best light - but it IS a new bike with all of those things so it will feel nice etc. It's a tough gig pleasing most people while still conveying good and bad points. Great video!!
The audience will pick up on you being a phony and once that trust is lost, it's gone for good. It ain't worth selling out over one 36 hour trip, or the possibility of another one down the line. Most manufacturers are okay with criticism, so long as it makes sense. Like saying a Harley doesn't handle, stop or accelerate like a hyper naked is a dumb comparison, but saying E Clutch feels a little funny when you're manually overriding it because the fiction zone is super small is genuine feedback a manufacturer can use for improvements.
@@spitescorner 100% and the way youtube is now there is always someone else making their way who might fill that gap, so it'd be a very short term gain for honestly zero long term benefit eh!? Absolutely, I've never understood people comparing sportsbikes to cruisers....like an SUV isn't comparable to a sportscar you bunch of silly gooses. Agreed, it's basically a cheap way to get a sort of wider market feedback!
Unconscious bias is a real thing. At the end of the day every living thing on this planet has self preservation coded into them. It's not negative as long as it's acknowledged. Consumers get annoyed with journalists when they claim to have no conflict if interest but they do even if minor. Check out what Brake Magazine is doing in their videos if not already to address this, not a surprise they are building a following. @@spitescorner
@@spitescorner It's a financial incentive for you to get invited to unveiling and first ride events because they make for exclusive youtube content. I don't trust individual youtubers if they review bikes at these events rather than take some time and review them on their own after thoroughly testing them.
Bro... I hate to tell you... but I don't see you as journalist or influencer... I see you as "buddy shooting sh!t about bikes". LoL.. Keep up the good work, we are counting on you!
Excellent work. Love the transparency. TBH, not a fan of Harley Davidson lately, anyway. I hate the way new Sportsters look, and their board has done trashy things, but I love the way the previous Sportster's look; the Custom, 72, and 48 particularly, as well as the Dynas. Lol Chase cameo. Keep up the excellent work!
I've been to a handful of these multi day launches like this and would say you pretty much nailed the experience. Some are a little more party, some are kinda corporate. The CRF450L launch in Packwood WA was pretty corporate with Japanese engineers and a whole crew. Looks fun, is fun, but also a lot of work.
It's really the same as the car industry. They fly their reviewers out to some nice, fancy, exotic location. Majority of the time food, flight, and board are all covered. It's hard to be objective when they basically give you a free mini vacation with a small amount of work thrown in. If you're overly critical of their products they'll never invite you back. That's why I wait until regular people buy the bike with their own money and do reviews themselves. I never trust press release reviews.
I just saw a review of a cfmoto chinese bike. the reviewer LOVED it, would not change a thing, it was sooooo good! (btw then they had to drill holes in the frame to let rainwater drain out because it was rusting out from the inside) good times. 🤣
As someone who used to work in the video game industry back in the 1990's, I still remember clearly when the small start-up company I worked for discovered (the hard way) how the quality of your game review was proportional to the amount of advertising you bought in their magazine. 🤔
That's because the video game industry, especially the media and marketing side, has been a wretched hive of scum and villainy for decades now. That's why I like Devolver Digital so much, they're bucking the trends.
@@spitescorner Indeed. The marketing department in that small start-up game studio I worked for was made up of a bunch of clueless pretty people who didn't play games and generally looked down on the gaming community. No small surprise that studio went belly up after the 3rd game and I was looking for a job.
I'm sure that there are SOME people that will be more favorable as they may feel obligated to "return the favor" so to speak. However, you can pick those out pretty quickly. They wont last in the right circles. If you always like everything that BRAND X does, even when others generally dislike it, people notice. Also any brand that stops supporting large enough groups of influencers/journalists will be noticed as well. I appreciate the look behind the curtain, and would like to see others (people and events) done in this manner. We are not in the days of picking up a magazine to find all the info anymore, and cameras are ubiquitous to the point that anything can be content. Keep up the good "journalistic" approach and i will keep watching the vids man!
Good work as always my man! Is that a fellow super ultra-wide G9 owner?! I love my OLED version and cannot go back to a normal monitor as my primary. I bet it is really nice to edit on! I know it is advantageous when I'm gaming. I see all! BWAHAHAHA!
Re: Frustration with TH-cam removing the like/dislike ratio for viewers is always good to hear. I doubt TH-cam will ever listen to users, but maybe some day we'll get it back. It was one of the only ways for users to moderate the *hours* of bot-generated, low-effort garbage that is dumped on to the platform every single minute.
I strongly recommend Return TH-cam Dislike for chrome. Super simple and worth the few seconds it takes to install. But I have a vested interest in following like/dislike trends. Most folks it probably wouldn't make a difference to their experience.
Rockin the Orbit Culture, awesome! I have to say after watching this I still think it would still be a cool job but it seems more like job than before, lots of other more mundane stuff around the cool stuff. Also that it takes way more effort into making good content than hopping on a bike and filming it.
Absolutely! After buying a 2024 Yamaha tennere because of the awesome reviews. I absolutely hate it and its trade in value is nothing.and all the reviewers got rid of them. Swanky cat, dork in the road, just to name a few.
If a free economy flight, hotel room and pizza is all it takes to buy your puff piece, then you will be sniffed very quickly. Point out the good and the bad, and highlight the benefit-of-ther-doubt observations. Honesty is the best policy, and that carries almost no risk if done professionally.
Of course they do, just like any other manufacturer of anything that gets reviews. It's called shilling, but it's quite easy to spot if you have something between the ears.
I'm 66 and have never heard about Calimoto before today. I went on my first motorcycle camping trip from Denmark, through Germany, Switzerland, France to Monaco and back in 1979 with my hot girlfriend as passenger. No GPS, no intercoms, only paper maps and hand signalling, clapping and touching. That is life my friends. In the eighties we went to Milano and back on another motorcycle. Today I don't want GPS, intercom or traction control. All I want is a 120 lbs girlfriend again - preferable with a PhD in something interesting and a good salary.
Do you sometime bring one of your guitars and jam during your trips? I always wanted to, but I'm afraid my Gibson would be damaged - I only got the one, and I'm such a sissy.
Plot twist, they really don't care about fairness of who gets a video out on time. It's a marketing ploy for social media. If the reviews go out staggered it's less of a trending metric than if a bunch of people release them all at the same time (amount overpowers time). They rely on that initial spike of social media presence to play off of for the rest of their advertising and promotion stuff that wouldn't come across as well if they were working with someone this week and someone next week and so on putting out vids.
Sure you might have one great day of publicity that way, but a long stream of publicity keeps the product in the narrative for longer. The short term gains of a good day on TH-cam wouldn't offset tens of thousands of views over a month. Plus there's an excitement factor if one channel releases a video early, someone watching my channel would want to see what my thoughts are on that and might end up consuming two eclutch pieces of content versus one that way. The reality is most videos tend to stop being relevant after one to two weeks. That's not much buzz when you're talking about a mutlimillion dollar, ten year project.
I'm a subscriber of calimoto. It's okay, but it does screw up a lot, has problems with closed down roads/rerouting. Roundabouts often get annouced wrong. I miss the option to manually exclude certain roads, because it often trys to funnel me into strongly speed restriced roads in front of my house. It's still the best motorcycle navigation (IMHO), but I i have some gripes with it. 7/10, would allmost recommend. But also I'd like to take alternative suggestions.
I go to a local motorcycle shop when I'm on the road and ask what the best motorcycle road from point A to B is. The info is real time and often not known to outsiders. It's one from one motorcyclist to another.
US Lawmakers Looking to Ban CFMoto Via Connected-Vehicle Embargo The move is to try and prevent the Chinese government from using data from connected vehicles sold in the USA
No, according to my analytics, the press launch video did worse than the Ryker review (and most of my other day in the saddle reviews) which take a lot less time and effort. I'd honestly be totally fine if I didn't have that kind of access.
Ye, but I am sure that some influence gets you. Its cool when you have all those niceties done for you to review their products. You are human, no? Its hard to separate that professional part with your regular biases. I am sure these big companies that spend tons of money in marketing that have psychologist staff that help build these events and end understanding people better than people understand themselves. I dunno, I am sure you stand behind your words and experience and they are not less true, but nonetheless I am suspicious. I mean, KTM makes amazing, expensive bikes with subpar quality and instead of iron those issues fly people around to see them do wheelies and go WOAH! I am very jaded.
Mine is very accurate. Right now the video is sitting at 637 likes to 8 dislikes according to youtube and according to the plug in it's 637 to 6. Admittedly that's a 25% margin of error, but the dislike numbers are so small I'm willing to accept that. On other videos it tends to be a lot closer.
Because they do but indirectly. Every reviewer has to strike a balance between telling the truth and not damaging their relationship with the very brands that they rely on to have a job. The only way a reviewer can honestly and truly say they aren’t being influenced by a manufacturer is if they don’t attend manufacturer sponsored events, don’t accept dinners or hotel rooms and get all the bikes on their own dime without any involvement from the manufacturer. These companies aren’t handing these guys money for their reviews but they are flying them places, wining them, dining them and essentially giving them a free small vacation. Whether these influencers want to admit it or not, this will have an effect on their reporting.
@spitescorner also I got a triumph tiger 660 a few months ago you should check one out, phenomenal daily commuter for taller riders at a solid price point.
All of the corporations are the same. They use the same playbook. Invite influencers/media members to an event. The event is to promote a new product. The corporation pays for hotel, travel, good food, and possibly other things like fun events or goodie bags. The minions of the corporate carefully watch the influencer/media after the event is over. If they do not like how the influencer/media member reports about their new product the corporate minion blacklist's the influencer/media person. We live in a world where the first report or story makes the most money. News/information/content is spread to the general public by algorithms and the algorithm rewards the first person. All influencers and media members are corrupt. They cannot afford to lose access.
The irony being this video and the eclutch videos made less than ones I made on bikes from 10 years ago. Or 70. I don't care about losing corporate connections. I mean it'd be a bummer, but no big deal.
I usually login here to disagree with something you’ve said. But not today. Since you’ve lost weight the skin in your face looks healthy. If it hasn’t happened yet I hope your wedding goes well.
Instead of narrating better capture like a vlog with the sneak peek of the bike and topic of the video you are going to make. And The vlog could be the theme of how the event looks like . Then publish the bike video . This will advertise your next video and the vlog video will be interesting to watch cuz it wont be the day that has already passed
Your videos are full of advertisements, both those that you create yourself, and those that pop up by themselves, and it's just common sense that manufacturers wouldn't pay for you guys to come to their press launches if they weren't expecting the press launches to sell product, so yes, you have both of your feet in the product promotion industry. Not that you're unduly influencing me, because I disagree with about 60% of your opinions anyway. Cheers.
I know this is your livelihood and all, but you're a little naive if you think that being invited by brands on a all expense paid work-holiday doesn't influence the reviewer's results. You do realize that manufacturers could just send you documentation/videos of presentation and have the motorcycle available to try in a more 'neutral' environment, right? They do what they do precisely because it gives them good publicity. Start talking shit about their bikes and watch the invites dry up. I work in the gaming industry and have experience working in product launches and it is no exaggeration to say that content creators are eager to get content and exclusive access and are willing to soften their personal views all on their own out of fear of losing access in the future. It is a symbiotic relationship that has formed to benefit both parties but resultant reviews are far from objective. Not trying to hate, I just don't feel like you need to justify what you do because some criticize the obvious downfalls of this type of arrangement. It's just part of the job, and we get it 🤘
If they're not buying good reviews, they're sending youtubers to nice locations to test and ride their new bike whilst showering them with Free travel, free hotel, free food etc. Its 100% a bribe.
If Kawasaki flew me to the top of mount Fuji in Japan during cherry blossom season and put me on a versys 650 I'd still not like it. The place doesn't make the bike.
Sounds like someone has never been involved in media production and post-production. This was all 100% work and more hours than you can imagine. For you to watch a free video.
@@mattgray9297 the work he'd have to put regardless of type of video to be made. He's being paid in fuel, hotel, and views of exclusive content. It's absolutely done to make the reviews of the motorcycle be more favourable
Does anyone actually listen to buying advice from some random dude who likes bikes that posts video on TH-cam? What are their qualifications, experience and riding style? It would be a waste of money for the companies to bribe them, I doubt it would significantly help their sales.
I mean... I've ridden over 150 bikes in the last eight years, tens of thousands of miles, on track, on the street and off road. I also ride every kind of bike, so while I'm not the best rider out there I have a decent frame of reference.
Uhh, they make their bikes in Italy, owned by an Italian company, and cover their bikes in Italian flags. The RS457 is made in India sure, but one bike does not a company make.
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I would just like to acknowledge I made it into a Spite video! My dreams are made. Also, super curious to see if normal people that watch the channel are interested in this kinda BTS stuff.
You're officially famous now 😂. As a general trend I'd say no, but according to the numbers people who watch BTS stuff watch the whole video.
@@spitescorner I did. A video like this takes a lot of work to put together, but I appreciate it. It tells me more about you than a straightforward review can.
I loved this video. Getting to see how a production is made is always a fun experience for me to watch.
Woah 😳 wonder Twin Powers activate! Have a great day guys!
Yes! I love BTS stuff
Wait... Y'all don't have to bribe him with feet pics to stay on the discord?
nah Nex does that voluntarily
Have to? No…
Oh, is J a footie??
"Because I am a motorcyclist and my brain doesn't work like a normal human" I need this on a T-Shirt as a disclaimer to anyone I may interact with day to day....
I completely forgot I said that lol. I think that's a great Tshirt line.
Glad to see CaliMoto as a sponsor! I think they’re great for being able to just set a distance and it’ll find a twisty loop that brings you back where you started
Edit: Also huge thank you for a peek behind the scenes!
Thanks for the BTS look. As casual viewers we don't tend to appreciate this all gets crammed into a few days (including travel time, that must be intense). Also if this is anything to go by there's a tremendously social aspect!
Love that Honda's best selling motorcycle is The Grom XD
Short answer YES ! Yes they do. More nuanced answer is "It depends on the company"
That's a lot more hard work and lot less glam then I imagined being a motorcycle journalist. Thanks for the insight.
They don’t buy😂 they give special access opportunities
Spite, yes I did enjoy that behind the scenes look and transparency into how an influencer or content creator views the responsibility to deliver for the viewers when invited to something like a press launch. I used to run a channel and never got invited to something involving the press (my channel didn't bloom before I stopped producing) but I often wondered how such an event my make me elevate to a level as a responsibility to the viewers. Thanks!
Thanks for the behind the scenes view.
There's always going to be some bias involved in a press launch, especially if it's to a more exotic location & they give you a bit of pampering. Journalists & reviewers also want to be invited back to these events because it's their livelihoods, so they're more likely to focus on the positives. It's just human nature.
But, if a brand is big enough to hold a press launch they're big enough to be making bikes that are well built & reliable anyway. And already knowing all of the positives of the bike it allows you to focus on finding the niggling little negatives on the test ride to see if they're a deal breaker.
Thanks for the peek behind the scenes. This looks just like the firearms events I've been to. Even though I'm not a very social person, one of the parts I've come to enjoy are the dinner-table discussions with the reps and other journalists. All the folks I collaborated with genuinely were working toward the long game of maintaining their integrity. Keep it up, man. I appreciate your perspective.
I asked Ari Henning about this once. He said that for him it’s a very professional event and he was focused on the job, then heading home.
Not wanting to bite the hand that feeds is a real thing.
Cool behind the scenes video, I have kind of wondered how the manufacturers put them on.
Thanks for this well made video. I enjoyed a lot!
Making those kind of "behind the scenes" videos requiere even more effort, but I think it's worth it as it shows clearly the reality of people doing moto journalism.
Great work Spite!
I honestly think that most people making videos have way more value on their integrity than a lot of folks realise.
I'm sure they way the experience is set up, new bikes, a track, selected roads etc, is all going to show the bike in it's best light - but it IS a new bike with all of those things so it will feel nice etc. It's a tough gig pleasing most people while still conveying good and bad points.
Great video!!
The audience will pick up on you being a phony and once that trust is lost, it's gone for good. It ain't worth selling out over one 36 hour trip, or the possibility of another one down the line. Most manufacturers are okay with criticism, so long as it makes sense. Like saying a Harley doesn't handle, stop or accelerate like a hyper naked is a dumb comparison, but saying E Clutch feels a little funny when you're manually overriding it because the fiction zone is super small is genuine feedback a manufacturer can use for improvements.
@@spitescorner 100% and the way youtube is now there is always someone else making their way who might fill that gap, so it'd be a very short term gain for honestly zero long term benefit eh!? Absolutely, I've never understood people comparing sportsbikes to cruisers....like an SUV isn't comparable to a sportscar you bunch of silly gooses. Agreed, it's basically a cheap way to get a sort of wider market feedback!
Thanks for the trip behind the scenes.
Of course not, but it would be a shame, if we'll never invite you to unveiling, or first ride ever again.....
Some companies might do that, but just means they're shady and I wouldn't want to work with them anyway.
Unconscious bias is a real thing. At the end of the day every living thing on this planet has self preservation coded into them. It's not negative as long as it's acknowledged. Consumers get annoyed with journalists when they claim to have no conflict if interest but they do even if minor. Check out what Brake Magazine is doing in their videos if not already to address this, not a surprise they are building a following. @@spitescorner
@@spitescorner It's a financial incentive for you to get invited to unveiling and first ride events because they make for exclusive youtube content. I don't trust individual youtubers if they review bikes at these events rather than take some time and review them on their own after thoroughly testing them.
Great video, it was interesting to see how things go. 👍
Very interesting video of what goes on at a product launch. Good idea to hold everybody to a specific release date, makes sense.
Bro... I hate to tell you... but I don't see you as journalist or influencer... I see you as "buddy shooting sh!t about bikes". LoL.. Keep up the good work, we are counting on you!
@@jasonmeador124 that's exactly what a influencer is supposed to be.
Excellent work. Love the transparency. TBH, not a fan of Harley Davidson lately, anyway. I hate the way new Sportsters look, and their board has done trashy things, but I love the way the previous Sportster's look; the Custom, 72, and 48 particularly, as well as the Dynas. Lol Chase cameo. Keep up the excellent work!
The explanation of the embargo is great. A lot of ppl see it differently but goad to see a fair, level environment
Awesome video, thanks!
I've been to a handful of these multi day launches like this and would say you pretty much nailed the experience. Some are a little more party, some are kinda corporate. The CRF450L launch in Packwood WA was pretty corporate with Japanese engineers and a whole crew. Looks fun, is fun, but also a lot of work.
It's really the same as the car industry. They fly their reviewers out to some nice, fancy, exotic location. Majority of the time food, flight, and board are all covered. It's hard to be objective when they basically give you a free mini vacation with a small amount of work thrown in. If you're overly critical of their products they'll never invite you back. That's why I wait until regular people buy the bike with their own money and do reviews themselves. I never trust press release reviews.
I just saw a review of a cfmoto chinese bike. the reviewer LOVED it, would not change a thing, it was sooooo good!
(btw then they had to drill holes in the frame to let rainwater drain out because it was rusting out from the inside)
good times. 🤣
As someone who used to work in the video game industry back in the 1990's, I still remember clearly when the small start-up company I worked for discovered (the hard way) how the quality of your game review was proportional to the amount of advertising you bought in their magazine. 🤔
That's because the video game industry, especially the media and marketing side, has been a wretched hive of scum and villainy for decades now. That's why I like Devolver Digital so much, they're bucking the trends.
@@spitescorner Indeed. The marketing department in that small start-up game studio I worked for was made up of a bunch of clueless pretty people who didn't play games and generally looked down on the gaming community. No small surprise that studio went belly up after the 3rd game and I was looking for a job.
14:46 is that Two Wheels at Suches? i was there this weekend! and blood mountain. such a beautiful area and great riding roads.
It is. It was a cool roadside haunt and the twisties were incredible.
as an aspiring content creator myself, i love this
Thanks so much for this look! I really appreciate it.
Also, it was only the 737 MAX having issues, the 800 was probably okay.
16:40 I feel you brother I’ll be flying on one myself in just three days. but I felt perfectly safe scooting around on my Yamaha MT 10 yesterday.
I'm sure that there are SOME people that will be more favorable as they may feel obligated to "return the favor" so to speak. However, you can pick those out pretty quickly. They wont last in the right circles. If you always like everything that BRAND X does, even when others generally dislike it, people notice. Also any brand that stops supporting large enough groups of influencers/journalists will be noticed as well. I appreciate the look behind the curtain, and would like to see others (people and events) done in this manner. We are not in the days of picking up a magazine to find all the info anymore, and cameras are ubiquitous to the point that anything can be content. Keep up the good "journalistic" approach and i will keep watching the vids man!
Good work as always my man! Is that a fellow super ultra-wide G9 owner?! I love my OLED version and cannot go back to a normal monitor as my primary. I bet it is really nice to edit on! I know it is advantageous when I'm gaming. I see all! BWAHAHAHA!
Yeah I use that mostly for editing because the long timeline screen is really nice, but when I'm gaming it's a nice extra.
I love to see the BTS stuff, I can only hope that one day my tiny little channel could get me to a press launch.
Thanks spite! Very informative!
Re: Frustration with TH-cam removing the like/dislike ratio for viewers is always good to hear. I doubt TH-cam will ever listen to users, but maybe some day we'll get it back. It was one of the only ways for users to moderate the *hours* of bot-generated, low-effort garbage that is dumped on to the platform every single minute.
There are extensions for most browsers to return it.
I strongly recommend Return TH-cam Dislike for chrome. Super simple and worth the few seconds it takes to install. But I have a vested interest in following like/dislike trends. Most folks it probably wouldn't make a difference to their experience.
@@spitescorner It absolutely makes a difference, being able to see at a glance if something has been smashed with dislikes is very handy.
Cool video
Considering everything going wrong with Boeing planes, riding on a racetrack with no suit is probably safer.
Nice shirt. Freakin’ looove Russian Circles. And just about any post rock band. ❤
OMG Spite's face superimposed on a Loli made me go "WTF!!!!!!!!" out loud. It broke my Otaku circuits. 🤮🤮🤮
Spite: just wondering how often you run into Yammie Boob. Can’t stand him!
Mate, let it rest. Holding onto things out of spite (badum tish) isn't healthy.
@@krazed0451 😂. You are totally right. Still the Yammie is a total 💩.
@@Alexanderyhwong We can all agree on that 😆
Rockin the Orbit Culture, awesome! I have to say after watching this I still think it would still be a cool job but it seems more like job than before, lots of other more mundane stuff around the cool stuff. Also that it takes way more effort into making good content than hopping on a bike and filming it.
Yeah honestly, riding motorcycles is like 35% of what I do. I haven't been on a motorcycle in over two weeks at this point.
Already a fan but seeing Orbit Culture T-shirt in setup segment bumped it up a notch 🙂
Absolutely! After buying a 2024 Yamaha tennere because of the awesome reviews. I absolutely hate it and its trade in value is nothing.and all the reviewers got rid of them. Swanky cat, dork in the road, just to name a few.
Sorry that it's not for you. I road it a few times, and it's awesome in the dirt, but it's not for me either. I found it a little slow on the road
If a free economy flight, hotel room and pizza is all it takes to buy your puff piece, then you will be sniffed very quickly. Point out the good and the bad, and highlight the benefit-of-ther-doubt observations. Honesty is the best policy, and that carries almost no risk if done professionally.
Awesome perspective.
Of course they do, just like any other manufacturer of anything that gets reviews. It's called shilling, but it's quite easy to spot if you have something between the ears.
Did anyone ask the question about what happens with the e-clutch when the electronics fail as all electronics eventually do?
It works just like a nornal clutch.
Blog was fun. Do it again next time u have a chance
I'm 66 and have never heard about Calimoto before today. I went on my first motorcycle camping trip from Denmark, through Germany, Switzerland, France to Monaco and back in 1979 with my hot girlfriend as passenger. No GPS, no intercoms, only paper maps and hand signalling, clapping and touching. That is life my friends. In the eighties we went to Milano and back on another motorcycle. Today I don't want GPS, intercom or traction control. All I want is a 120 lbs girlfriend again - preferable with a PhD in something interesting and a good salary.
Hear me out. It still looks fun.🧐
It is fun, but there's a lot of work that goes on after the trip is over.
love your videos. don't feel that you have to justify your not a fast track rider. everyone has it's thing
Meh, I've never claimed to be fast at anything. I'm the KLR650 of people. Slow, heavy, but I'll get there eventually.
Do you sometime bring one of your guitars and jam during your trips? I always wanted to, but I'm afraid my Gibson would be damaged - I only got the one, and I'm such a sissy.
I have a headless Agile 7 sting. If I bring one, I bring that one since it's small and light, and there's not much to damage.
Yammie didnt get the cfmoto invite and now he is all salty! 😂😂
I love these vlogs
chaseon2wheels seeing the DJI Osmo Pocket 3 for the first time I take it. 😂 (Judging by the shadow alone)
Nah, he's had one for a while. I just know all the little tips and tricks. 😉
Plot twist, they really don't care about fairness of who gets a video out on time. It's a marketing ploy for social media. If the reviews go out staggered it's less of a trending metric than if a bunch of people release them all at the same time (amount overpowers time). They rely on that initial spike of social media presence to play off of for the rest of their advertising and promotion stuff that wouldn't come across as well if they were working with someone this week and someone next week and so on putting out vids.
Sure you might have one great day of publicity that way, but a long stream of publicity keeps the product in the narrative for longer. The short term gains of a good day on TH-cam wouldn't offset tens of thousands of views over a month. Plus there's an excitement factor if one channel releases a video early, someone watching my channel would want to see what my thoughts are on that and might end up consuming two eclutch pieces of content versus one that way. The reality is most videos tend to stop being relevant after one to two weeks. That's not much buzz when you're talking about a mutlimillion dollar, ten year project.
I'm a subscriber of calimoto. It's okay, but it does screw up a lot, has problems with closed down roads/rerouting. Roundabouts often get annouced wrong. I miss the option to manually exclude certain roads, because it often trys to funnel me into strongly speed restriced roads in front of my house.
It's still the best motorcycle navigation (IMHO), but I i have some gripes with it. 7/10, would allmost recommend. But also I'd like to take alternative suggestions.
I go to a local motorcycle shop when I'm on the road and ask what the best motorcycle road from point A to B is. The info is real time and often not known to outsiders. It's one from one motorcyclist to another.
@@USARAY1947 I open up Google maps, look for the most out of the way twisty roads I can find, set up my route in Scenic, then go ride them.
US Lawmakers Looking to Ban CFMoto Via Connected-Vehicle Embargo
The move is to try and prevent the Chinese government from using data from connected vehicles sold in the USA
Uh-huh and what about the millions of other cars and bikes that can be remotely accessed by bad actors?
@@spitescorner I wondered the same thing......
Let alone phones and laptops and tablets and and and....
I don't remember the last time I disliked a video. I watch stuff that I like... I don't go searching for stuff I dislike
A bad review = no more press junkets = no material on the latest machines for the channel/blog = decrease in viewership = loss of income. Am I wrong?
No, according to my analytics, the press launch video did worse than the Ryker review (and most of my other day in the saddle reviews) which take a lot less time and effort. I'd honestly be totally fine if I didn't have that kind of access.
@@spitescorner I'm not surprised. I avoid press launch reviews and favor seat time reviews. Keep 'em coming, Spite.
Cool, Lifeofaburch!
yooo sick guitars! do you make music?
I mostly just play for myself, but I have been dabbling in recording riffs.
@@spitescorner nice nice! would love to offer any help i can, music production-wise like expand riff ideas into songs etc!
Have you enjoyed switching from cruisers to naked motorcycles
At least Boeing doesn't make motorcycles.
14:16 Isle of Man flag spotted!
Fingers crossed 🤞 diavel giveaway
If you allow yourself to be bribed, you sell your butt, and it’s a raffle - to coin a Scottish saying 😂
In truth folks need to survive when starting out too. And there isn’t such a thing as a bad bike really
Ye, but I am sure that some influence gets you. Its cool when you have all those niceties done for you to review their products. You are human, no? Its hard to separate that professional part with your regular biases. I am sure these big companies that spend tons of money in marketing that have psychologist staff that help build these events and end understanding people better than people understand themselves.
I dunno, I am sure you stand behind your words and experience and they are not less true, but nonetheless I am suspicious. I mean, KTM makes amazing, expensive bikes with subpar quality and instead of iron those issues fly people around to see them do wheelies and go WOAH!
I am very jaded.
interesting, more info on why I shouldn't try youtubing
Calimoto doesn't work in my country
They give motogrils free stuff
You mean moto girls?
I use a plugin to show dislike to like ratio, I think it runs estimates maybe or something, currently this video has 225 likes and 5 dislikes.
Mine is very accurate. Right now the video is sitting at 637 likes to 8 dislikes according to youtube and according to the plug in it's 637 to 6. Admittedly that's a 25% margin of error, but the dislike numbers are so small I'm willing to accept that. On other videos it tends to be a lot closer.
I like it
no matter how many of these you release and how much you show people, they will still claim that brands buy reviews when it is so far from the truth.
Because they do but indirectly. Every reviewer has to strike a balance between telling the truth and not damaging their relationship with the very brands that they rely on to have a job. The only way a reviewer can honestly and truly say they aren’t being influenced by a manufacturer is if they don’t attend manufacturer sponsored events, don’t accept dinners or hotel rooms and get all the bikes on their own dime without any involvement from the manufacturer. These companies aren’t handing these guys money for their reviews but they are flying them places, wining them, dining them and essentially giving them a free small vacation. Whether these influencers want to admit it or not, this will have an effect on their reporting.
@@justin2956 Well said.
Spite, coke zero> diet coke all day buddy.
This has been flagged as a damaging lie.
@spitescorner haha, I'm sorry I love the channel and this was a great video but coke zero is so good! Ironically I'm drinking one right now.
@spitescorner also I got a triumph tiger 660 a few months ago you should check one out, phenomenal daily commuter for taller riders at a solid price point.
All of the corporations are the same. They use the same playbook. Invite influencers/media members to an event. The event is to promote a new product. The corporation pays for hotel, travel, good food, and possibly other things like fun events or goodie bags. The minions of the corporate carefully watch the influencer/media after the event is over. If they do not like how the influencer/media member reports about their new product the corporate minion blacklist's the influencer/media person.
We live in a world where the first report or story makes the most money. News/information/content is spread to the general public by algorithms and the algorithm rewards the first person. All influencers and media members are corrupt. They cannot afford to lose access.
The irony being this video and the eclutch videos made less than ones I made on bikes from 10 years ago. Or 70. I don't care about losing corporate connections. I mean it'd be a bummer, but no big deal.
I usually login here to disagree with something you’ve said. But not today. Since you’ve lost weight the skin in your face looks healthy. If it hasn’t happened yet I hope your wedding goes well.
i will buy cf only if they have proven reliabilty in the US maybe at least 3yrs...for now ill just watch videos of cf LOL
They been around for over a decade, and getting better every year
Instead of narrating better capture like a vlog with the sneak peek of the bike and topic of the video you are going to make. And The vlog could be the theme of how the event looks like . Then publish the bike video .
This will advertise your next video and the vlog video will be interesting to watch cuz it wont be the day that has already passed
Im never influenced because most of you influencers only been riding a couple years. Most dont ride daily.
BS
Your videos are full of advertisements, both those that you create yourself, and those that pop up by themselves, and it's just common sense that manufacturers wouldn't pay for you guys to come to their press launches if they weren't expecting the press launches to sell product, so yes, you have both of your feet in the product promotion industry. Not that you're unduly influencing me, because I disagree with about 60% of your opinions anyway. Cheers.
Then why are you here? Just to hate watch?
@@spitescorner I wouldn't get too bent out of shape about it. I seldom agree with anybody.
I know this is your livelihood and all, but you're a little naive if you think that being invited by brands on a all expense paid work-holiday doesn't influence the reviewer's results. You do realize that manufacturers could just send you documentation/videos of presentation and have the motorcycle available to try in a more 'neutral' environment, right? They do what they do precisely because it gives them good publicity. Start talking shit about their bikes and watch the invites dry up.
I work in the gaming industry and have experience working in product launches and it is no exaggeration to say that content creators are eager to get content and exclusive access and are willing to soften their personal views all on their own out of fear of losing access in the future. It is a symbiotic relationship that has formed to benefit both parties but resultant reviews are far from objective.
Not trying to hate, I just don't feel like you need to justify what you do because some criticize the obvious downfalls of this type of arrangement. It's just part of the job, and we get it 🤘
You gotta chill on the clickbait dude
Can you please do a video where you put rocks inside your engine instead of oil? Maybe a bit of oil, but the rest gravel
Guy who makes his living on ad revenue shows that he uses an ad blocker. Hypocrite much? LMAO
If they're not buying good reviews, they're sending youtubers to nice locations to test and ride their new bike whilst showering them with Free travel, free hotel, free food etc. Its 100% a bribe.
If your opinion can be bought for the price of a round trip flight to Georgia, two meals, and hotel room you don't have much integrity.
@spitescorner unfortunately a lot of youtubers don't, and a holiday to spain/Italy all expenses paid for is all it takes to get a good review.
If Kawasaki flew me to the top of mount Fuji in Japan during cherry blossom season and put me on a versys 650 I'd still not like it. The place doesn't make the bike.
...nope, that absolutely looks like paid vacation.
Sounds like someone has never been involved in media production and post-production. This was all 100% work and more hours than you can imagine. For you to watch a free video.
@@mattgray9297 the work he'd have to put regardless of type of video to be made.
He's being paid in fuel, hotel, and views of exclusive content. It's absolutely done to make the reviews of the motorcycle be more favourable
Does anyone actually listen to buying advice from some random dude who likes bikes that posts video on TH-cam? What are their qualifications, experience and riding style? It would be a waste of money for the companies to bribe them, I doubt it would significantly help their sales.
I mean... I've ridden over 150 bikes in the last eight years, tens of thousands of miles, on track, on the street and off road. I also ride every kind of bike, so while I'm not the best rider out there I have a decent frame of reference.
Pretending like Aprilia is still an "Italian" bike is hilarious! THANK YOU, COME AGAIN!
Uhh, they make their bikes in Italy, owned by an Italian company, and cover their bikes in Italian flags. The RS457 is made in India sure, but one bike does not a company make.