It's a little more nefarious than "sensationalism", as Avi Loeb is part of a larger psychological operation centered out of the state of Israel, in conjunction with CIA. These types of "sensational" UFO media blasts are about psychologically priming the public masses, for the ultimate goal to instigate an "outside universal threat" (to quote Ronald Reagan's 1987 speech to the UN) that creates a need for trillions of tax payer funds towards developing a larger "space force", in which the Military Industrial Complex will benefit...
This does really not explain how it was able to keep it's tumling rate what I mentioned in my comment. Actually this is what makes me to lose my trust for science. Why it is better to make exraordinary claims without explanation or proof if it does not include aliens? This is just stupid.
I’m published in the field of micrometeorites. You have to be so careful with “small round metallic objects”. For instance we were looking for micrometeorites in 3 billion years old cherts. To crack open the Chert we used a technique that use high voltage to smash the rock into dust. We started finding thousands of them, then we realised it was small metal droplets from the anode and cathode we were finding. We changed our technique to good old fashioned acid and we started finding real meteorites.
Same with welding, and blacksmithing. In fact, small iron beads always form if you gather iron from iron eating bacteria or iron rich silt and heat it in a blast furnace.
@@RanstoneOceanic smokers maybe? Bubbles in spherules maybe coupled with certain amounts of salinity of the ocean make them just buoyant enough to travel some distance?
@@helloyes2288 ... when there is enough metal in that rock. Well, it's difficult to have people from all faculties at hand. How should they know, that welding practice would be needed to say "no". (Because of the side effect that metal droplets would be produced).
It’s not actually extra terrestrial. That would be ridiculous. It’s a spaceship but made on earth. The big foot species are actually much more advanced and have developed interstellar travel. I don’t have any sources or evidence because I have made it all up, but you can’t prove it isn’t true… so maybe it’s possible. I think that’s how that works. Science!
Crazy that there is a lot of people who look at stuff like Jacque vallee, used to believe aliens extraterrestrial then after years of looking more into he said it seems the they are subterranean or inner dimensional
Beryllium can be used as a neutron reflector which can be useful in a nuke, so seeing beryllium and uranium melted together seems to make sense for nuclear fallout
Watch the point if you actually look through the scientific literature you find references that that chemical signature can be created by the right kind of material interacting with seawater for a few thousand years
@@GeneralSullanot a neutron reflector, more like another compressive force based on turning the expanded polystyrene into a plasma. Although I am a tiny bit skeptical of that explanation.
Regarding collecting magnetic things with a magnet, if you haven't cleaned your gutters in a long time it's almost guaranteed that there's some tiny meteorites collected in there that fell on your roof and got washed into your gutters.
I read those can also contain spherules from volcanos. I collected dozens once from a waterbutt connected to a gutter; found loads of black and red globules.
To be fair, water is really fucking crushing and space is literally almost empty Like there is stuff in our system and we can tell what it is by how it moves and once we know what it is and if it’s in our solar system then we can just zoom in and a professional 3d artist can make a rendering of it and boom space object The ocean is filled with random shit, blocks light, and crushes anything that goes too deep
NO! This was not real science. Anton should be ashamed of himself for misrepresenting Loeb's paper. It's disgusting & disingenuous behaviour, and I'm ashamed of Anton for it.
@@whatdamath That's maybe what I appreciate the most with you. It always seemed to me that you are very aware of your own potential bias and make a lot of extra effort to stay neutral. PS: I try to not judge people just because their life brought them to different thoughts processes than mines, but I did smirked a lot.
@@BooksRebound Many inventors and discoverers throughout history were deemed "crackpots" too, until the World learned otherwise. The elitist ivory towers of academia don't hold the sacred truth.
I think the idea is that the possibility of an ancient alien relic should not be completely ignored... Remember thinking the Earth was NOT the center of the universe could get you burnt at the stake. Ouch.
Great reminder! Also they murdered Giordano Bruno because he suggested there are other planets in other star systems, and they probably have habitable worlds... Damn now that I think about it, they probably killed him because they knew he was right!
I don’t think Avi ever said he thinks it was aliens. I think he said he can’t rule it out, and thus it’s possible. In doing so, he brings attention the subject and gets people interested who maybe wouldn’t be otherwise.
Well, Avi isn't a scammer. He's going to publish his paper on the UAP findings in 2024, coincidentally the same year that we are going to have disclosure. Catch up, blind folks
@@gags730 scammer of what? All of the $ he’s raised has gone to Galileo. You think grants don’t have red tape? You can just spend it on anything? All goes into his wallet? Every penny has to be accounted for dude.
There's one issue there, Anton... Dr. Leob also collected spherules out of that region, to compare as control samples. I agree, alien technology is probably not the case. But the composition is interesting.
Except in the paper they admit to cherry picking samples from the control: "Additional spherules were selected from run 22 and run 17, as they are not on IM1’s path and provide the background abundance patterns for spherules from the solar system." So yeah, they just picked some spheres from the control area and said "yup, these go in the paper"
this reminds me of a showerthought I had a while ago, which is, if an asteroid can send debris into space, it means that there might be some dinosaur fossils floating around solar system
Not fossils, but chunks of desiccated dinosaur were at one point floating out there. They would unfortunately be irradiated to dust by now (66M years later). I think the average size of anything that flew into space from the Chicxulub impact would be quite small to start. Still, not impossible that a fist sized chunk of organic matter might be out there.
You can't have a non-biased opinion when you start with a biased opinion. He got his tracking data from the US defense department and NASA, and they're usually kind of correct on stuff, as far as I know.
^^ The data said it was going faster than the solar system's escape velocity, implying an interstellar origin. God, I agree Loeb is hyping this up way too much, but people act like such smart asses over this when they don't know WTF they're talking about.
Watching Dr. Loeb's evolution from 'respected Harvard scientist' to 'dude who talks about aliens on podcasts' really helped me stay sane during lockdown.
The truth can be established using special open source exploration methods (TEXT MINING). 🕳🕳🕳🕳🕳🕳🕳🕳Popular presenter Tucker Carson talked about UFOs, he referred to the publication of the American newspaper The Wall Street Journal (12.07.22), where the article Putin and UFO sightings was published (authors Holman W., Jenkins Jr.) - there was a topic discussed: if this is a secret military equipment, then who produces "flying saucers" - the United States or Russia? This is not surprising, because modern electrokinetic "flying saucers" are a clever secret technology, but all within the framework of ordinary physics! I will also clarify one important point. "Flying saucers" and devices known as "dark triangles" are a technique invented on Earth. There, the railguns are reduced to the size of a ballpoint pen rod - they are quite miniature. They are assembled into flat panels that resemble plasma panels of conventional televisions with a cellular structure, and the current supply scheme to the arresters is similar. The distance between the contacts is negligible - an ordinary spark of an electric discharge becomes a bridge between them (sometimes rail sensors are made coaxial - similar to direct-flow reactive ones). All cells work synchronously: they emit plasma streams - sparks of electrical discharges accelerated by induction force. The speed of the outgoing plasma is enormous, and the number of railguns assembled on the panel reaches hundreds of thousands. The total motor impulse in the end turns out to be impressive. The discharges follow with a frequency of megahertz, each pulse enters the air, which, in turn, twists into toroidal rings. That's how this secret technique flies. They are made in the USA, Russia, and China. It's time to declassify! 🐻🐼
He always liked to talk about aliens. What changed was the attention given to that side of him and he probably monetized it. It isn't that uncommon that good scientists get more well known later in their career from talking about their personal pet peeve. Take Richard Dawkins for example, who is mainly known for his atheist activism and less for his gene centric model of evolution.
Where are the links to all of these studies that demonstrate counter evidence? For instance, the one that demonstrates the production of coal mine ash from gold mines, and the one that confusingly demonstrates that extrasolar objects must ablate to sub centemeter remnants.
Finally, someone is calling out Mr Loeb. He is without doubt an incredibly knowledgeable and experienced scientist. However, as we all know extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, which in this case is conspicuous in its absence! I’m guessing this is for additional funding and book sales for Mr Loeb! Well done Anton.
Avi released Mass Spec data on the sphereules. It's in the arXiv paper. They only released data on Iron (Fe), but the results put them WAY out of the isotopic ratios for Terrestrial Iron. So that rules out coal ash, welding cherries, battleship armor, and all the other but-wattabout counterarguments from Earthside. The Fe isotope ratios ARE within the range of meteorites from within our Solar system. But as you and Avi pointed out, some of this can be affected by vapor phase fractionation during atmospheric entry. That same atmospheric entry heating would probably make any Oxygen mass spectrometry useless, for pretty obvious atmospheric composition reasons. But what WOULD be very interesting is mass spectrum of the Uranium isotopes. These would be far less affected by thermal fractionation, and due to their decay rates, could peg these sphereules as extra-solar. But no test would ever be able to prove if it was a techno artifact after being airburst and melted into millimeter sized sphereules.
Unless they find some extremely exotic or unknown material in the samples, which can only be achieved through manufacturing. The important thing is to keep looking, not sitting on the laurels of preconceived ideas in the ivory towers of academia.
He didn't even mention the military detecting this meteor, and that they concluded the extra solar origin because of its unusual speed. Also that it disintegrated much too late. This guy Avi Loeb s only doing his job. He is not only a high egghead at Oxford, but also has some kind of relation to the US military concerning UAPs. 🚀🏴☠️🎸
Egghead, yes, but Oxford, no... believe he is chair of Physics at Harvard. For folks in positions like that, I'd say self-,promotion is part of the job description.
It is maybe time to read back a few old articles my dear friend. Because yes, sadly Avi did make these claims multiple times. Just google it and you will find about hundred articles from Avi Loeb in which he does claim this. There are also plenty of videos out there in which he does claim that those spherules are not only from a interstellar object, but also that is has been made by a alien civilization.
Ther is a war going on betwen the nerds in the science academy, and i guess Anton is trying to ridicule Avi as mutch as he can. Im on Avi's side and listened to many of his interviews love the guy. But Anton is not as wonderfull as i thoght i guess.
It would be interesting to come up with a test that estimates how long the spherical have been underwater. If that estimate doesn't match the impact date of the meteor that is suspected to be extra solar then I think the gig would be up with this stuff.
Yes, why not do some very complicated and elaborate research nobody knows how to and that will take perhaps even decades to get any meaningful results on some rocks nobody cares about. That's how you ruin a scientific career. I'd love to see that research proposal though: "I want 3 PhD students and some money to buy a bunch of Uranium and recreate a meteor and nuclear waste products to see how long something was underwater to prove someone wrong, or right. IDK. I guess 10 nukes should be good enough to test a couple of variants". I mean it would take at least as long as those rocks were in the water, wouldn't it?
They would need to keep spherules in the dark pre testing wouldnt they. I know that thermoluminescene aging of rocks has to be done without sunlight hitting the sample.
Spherical objects in the ocean make complete sense. If a liquid molten object falls it will form a sphere as it falls and cools to retain the shape... Ancient Greeks dropped molten metal off of tall towers into water to make spheres... Nature does it too.
It’s actually surprisingly difficult to get perfect spheres by dropping molten metal into water. I tried this a few times with silver for some jewellery, and even getting something somewhat blob liked requires a layer of oil on top of the water. But maybe the height makes a difference.
@@luipaardprint yeah, it's the height that makes the difference, the molten sphere has to cool down most of the way in the air and solidify before impact, the water just finishes the cooling process and keeps it from splatting into hard ground and deforming on impact. This is why they dropped their molten metal from tall towers.
Carl Sagan was into UFOs in the 1950s but then was an avid debunker in the 1960s and 1970s all of a sudden when he got close tonthe people who done the conduin report amd other well known government debunkers and disinformation workers. They say extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence yet dark matter and dark energy that hasnt been proven is widely accepted in the science community dispite zero extraordinary evidence in fact theres far more ufo evidence than dark matter or dark energy. Strange isnt it?
I love your programs they’re very informative. Including this one and the one question I have is if there’s Coal Ash + the Marshall Islands…. Wouldn’t sinking ships during World War II emit coal ash when sunk? some of the older ships that were sunk being coal powered?
Coal ash is there in abundance and it must be highly magnetic. It also stays all in one spot on the ocean floor. Oh, he didn't mention that; forget it. 🚀🏴☠️🎸
beryllium is also a major component of the neutron reflector inside nuclear weapons, I would think though if it really were the case it would be easy to confirm by checking the Uranium isotope distribution to see if it's natural or not.. although some natural unenriched uranium is used in the bomb
One thing slightly overlooked is: Would "advanced alien civilizations" use alloys? Humans use alloys because we can't make anything better. If you have advanced tech and want something strong, durable, and heat-resistant, you'd use a molecular lattice similar to diamond (carbon) or sapphire (aluminium oxide). Basically, light atoms with very high bond strength. Need something more flexible? Build it into the molecular structure using nanoscale molecular engineering - nantoechnology, basically. Once you have that technology it becomes the easiest way to make anything and alloys are not required.
Did you like how in the 1600s the Catholic church imprisoned Galileo for saying the Earth wasn't the center of the Solar System? Did you like how they publicly murdering a citizen named Giordano Bruno because he suggested there are exo-solar systems, with possible habitable worlds. Both of these men were RIGHT.
Good vid as always Anton. I will add though that there is value in a small percentage of scientists pushing venture capital into the pursuit and analysis of meteorites and extrasolar objects. Science does have its own risks of becoming groupthink-ish and we have seen that historically.
Suggestion: Cover the Weston meteorite event. I think it would be interesting to cover how we assumed space didn't exist to accepting rocks fall from the sky. Also a great example of arrogance and bias.
Loeb is turning into that "Alien Memes Guy". His "Oumuamua as broken alien light sail probe" doesn't hold water if you consider the likelihood of broken light sails lacking the ability to accelerate due to light pressure. And his touting of alien signals from Proxima Centauri neatly dovetailed with his involvement in Breakthrough: Starshot. Be wary.
He's an embarrassment to his faculty and Harvard as a whole. His unhinged rant on a SETI meeting awhile back was exactly what I'd expect from the tinfoil-UFO-crowd. He's completely lost the plot. All that's missing is some religious nonsense and he's right up there with the Ancient Alien cults.
No he isn't. We're aware of the UAPDA and the whistle-blowers like David Grusch. Aliens are real and they're already here. And we have at least 12 of their craft. Catch up. It's like when the church didn't believe Galileo lol That's why Avi named it "Galileo Protect".
Mr. Petrov, It is nice to find people like you who insert some skepticism and realism into wild claims, while also acknowledging that the wild claims could be true, however unlikely. Bias is hard to remove in science sometimes.
This piece identifies a huge issue in all research today…researchers aren’t being thorough in their efforts. Time to learn to be thorough or get people like Anton to absolutely decimate your findings for way too many people to see…thus becoming infamous for not being a good researcher.
Dont hate on him Anton, he is a decent guy with a valid point. It could be alien and that should be considered reason enough to investigate the things he has presented
I follow you on a daily basis and find your podcasts very informative and enjoyable to watch. I would love you to do a review of possible UAP's and the footage that has been released by US and South American Governments. Some of the footage is somewhat unexplained and suggestion being possible alien technology. In particular the footage taken by a US military aircraft. Just maybe could these be unmanned craft/probes examining Earth? When we eventually travel to the stars as we have already started to do Eg Mars would we not send these type of unmanned probes?
Like acadamia, Anton doesn't acknowledge any of that lol This video is the closest we get, until he starts making videos about NHI and UAP post disclosure as if he was always on board.
Anton, spherules are naturally occurring terrestrial phenomenon and are discovered in all sizes, tiny to huge, and of all compositions. The most famous ones are found in meso-America associated with PRE-Aztec archeology and are on display in museums as MEGALITHS (as opposed to micro-liths). Of interest to this video are other "megaliths" that are attributed to "lost civilizations" and technologies of non-terrestrial origin. All amusing all pure unmitigated BUNK.
this is a logical fallacy. "extraordinary claims" isnt an objective term and its based purely on peoples opinions and feelings. Claims require evidence and its unscientific to say a specific claim is extraordinary or that specific evidence is or isnt extraordinary. All you are doing is engaging in scientism... no different then religious dogma.
@@iraniansuperhacker4382random garbage at the bottom of the ocean = aliens is an extraordinary claim. If you find the Milenium Falcon at the bottom of the ocean, you wouldn't need to supply mountains of convincing paperwork..it would be easily provable. Why is this so hard to understand?
@@iraniansuperhacker4382what an enlightened statement. Soon the close minded fools will be forced to open their minds to the reality that we are here because of "them". I can make hundreds of statements that stand alone in suggesting that aliens probably exist and probably have been here helping humanity.. now put hundreds of statements together and you have the culmination of data that cannot be ignored. One day soon these same fools that say "we are alone" will be saying "I knew they were here all along" pathetic. Open your minds and look around... The clues are everywhere on this planet and ancient scriptures all over the world.
no they dont. Claims require evidence. There is no way you can measure what an "extraordinary claims" or what "extraordinary evidence" even is. That is 100% opinion. "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." is a literal logically fallacy that sagan was using to try and teach people to be able to tell the difference between good evidence and bad evidence. You are just repeating pop science talking points that you heard in the past with no reason understanding of what you are even saying.
I did not realize this was a contentious phrase. Although from a brief search the people most offended by it seem to be the ones making the extraordinary claims. *shrug* Wonder if I'd get the same level of blowback if I used Occam's Razor instead?
@@MasterTMO you are getting blow back because you are repeating things you have heard in pop science media without any real understanding of what they mean.... how do you not see this?
@@MasterTMO and the irony here is that if you occams razor this shit the reality is the most likely explanation is that alien tech is getting to earth in some way. Which is double ironic since there was multiple semi official studies done by multiple governments all involving various military or STEM experts and they basically unanimously came to the conclusion that based on what we know about shit we are seeing... aliens is the only sensible explanation. Im not saying I think or believe these are aliens but the people whos job is it is to know these things all seem to think there is a non human intelligent presence of some kind near or on earth.
I am not convinced that Avi Loeb's motivation in claiming Oumouamoua was possibly a alien spacecraft was to simply garner fame. Having a range of expert opinions to explain unexplained phenomenon and data seems to me to be both healthy and normal. It is the scientific process that is used to whittle down explanations and deliver to us some kind of truth. TY Anton for the vid.
However as Anton pointed out there is a lot of available science that could have been used to scientifically support or debunk Avi's theories that has been omitted (sin of omission-sin of commission who knows ?) . For such an expensive mission, lab time would have been a very small fraction of the budget.
There should be more scientists 'thinking out of the box'. Most take all they learned for granted. That is why we now have the 'crisis in cosmology' where they all have to struggle with the new discoveries from the James Webb Telescope.
@@thingonathinginathing then why did he do incomplete testing and what's worse, cherry pick the testing he did do? It's almost like he was rigging the results of this project. Respect comes from scientific rigor not sloppy hypothesis backed by half baked testing.
@longlowdog Don't know what you're talking about, I've been following the Galileo Project pretty closely lmao Wait for the Paper to be published soon in 2024..
Call him crazy, call him nuts,, Dr Leob actually went out and did research, in the middle of the ocean, While many others Sat in front of a camera and criticized him online.
What he did wasn't research, it was just a media event. He had already drawn his conclusions, prolly even had the paper written before the boat left the dock.
He got the funds, he did the research, he presented the findings. You can criticize, peer review, the findings all you want. But he did what he set out to do. Thats not a waste. Thats called research.
@@MrIamestranged He decided what he would conclude in advance, gathered inconclusive and sometimes cherry-picked data that he claims supports his pre-determined conclusion, then went on a press tour to present that unreviewed data in a highly self-promotional way to publicize his upcoming book. That's not research. That's called grandstanding. You are correct about one thing tho: he did what he set out to do. But that wasn't research -- it was promotions for his book. And he was quite successful in that endeavor -- "Interstellar" was one of the most heavily publicized and highly pre-ordered books of 2023.
@olencone4005 actually everything i said was correct, not just 1 thing. And your response proved my point. Scientific research should be criticized, but don't throw shade at the person who did the work. All Anton does is read a script into a camera. But that's ok, thats what he does. Everyone is an expert, right?
I don’t like how a lot of people are way too quick to explain away the unknown. For example, the people who believe that a space rock could only be aliens. Or the people who believe that space voids are these hyper advanced alien civilizations covering up stars.
Your rational disputations of the claims of extra-solar-systemic origins of Loeb's spherules bring to mind that old Monty Python tv episode, "Oh, You're No Fun!" Hahaha😂 I wish I could be more fun myself but I think you're probably right.
We don't know. But new ideas are always welcome...and give us the impetus to investigate. We can always hope that we learn we are part of a vibrant and living universe of multiple/exotic civilizations.
@@RandomGuy-lu1enI respectfully disagree with you wonderful person. Dr Loeb has helped to start a program called The Gallileo Project(please look into the origins of this name) in the hopes to explore unexplained phenomena from a scientific perspective. Sure many of his focuses are on things that could possibly be extraterrestrial, but he himself has said that if the evidence shows obviously that his findings are mundane he will accept those results and publish them. Please don't dismiss him just because his focus is this field. I hope you have a wonderful rest of your day.🙏
if he collected the money to get the samples from a public that is very interested in extrasolar material and alien tech then that's probably the financially wise thing to include in his findings 😕
Have you been living under a rock? 2023 has been the most important year in the history of alien disclosure. Our American government was literally about to Disclosure with the UAP Disclosure Amendment but senator Mike Turner blocked because he's on the payroll of the Defense companies. 2024 Anton is going to be making videos about aliens lol
@@AtlasReburdened Yes, one moment their ship is tumbling through space, and the next it is accelerating in one direction, very strange how their engines work, isn't it?
It's space whale poop, aged for billions of years. Regular ambergris goes for $10,000 per pound (2012). Can you imagine how much Space Whale perfume would cost?
And possibly my last comment, I'm reminded of all the experts that cropped up, pun intended, when the crop circle phenomena happened. Suddenly all these batshit crazy commenters were experts on what and what is not possible to do with grass. Even after it was demonstrated that some guy with a two x four made them by simply flattening the grass in front of him as he walked around... using a little loop on his head to aim himself to maintain straight lines... The heavily invested experts refused to acknowledge reality. It took a few years, but thankfully we don't hear anybody seriously still yapping about crop circles being made by aliens anymore.
the irony here is that the people that you are talking about were never actually able to demonstrate they were able to create the most mysterious aspect of crop circle cases. They tried multiple times but each time they were totally unable to replicate any of the weird aspects of other crop circles. You entire premise and reasoning is based on this idea that those two told dudes told a story about pole vaulting into field with wood and making the markings but thats all it was. A story. They were never able to actually replicate a single crop circle. Im not saying they are made by aliens but they are obviously being made by someone with technology much more advanced then planks of wood. Its important that you dont fall into the same thought traps the alien believer people make and its really easy to do that because unfortunately over the last 20 years skepticism has been somehow been associated with intellectualism
The board and rope guys never demonstrated anything decent compared to what they claimed they could do, nor anything close to any of the examples they claimed they had produced in the past. Go watch the Why Files episode on crop circles.
Anybody else getting sick of this alien thing. I'm not talking about this video, I love your videos Anton. I mean in general. It's all just complete crap. I'm sure somewhere out there. There is or was or will be an intelligent life form but the possibility that will ever find them, let alone interact with them is mathematically improbable.
Mathematically improbable based on what? Human intellect? Just because we are not at a stage advanced enough to leave our solar system does not mean there is not a civilisation out there who are intergalactic. People like you are so far behind reality it's untrue, disclosure is coming and soon we'll know the truth. You think Grusch is making all this up, you think all the high level whistleblowers are just making it up for the laugh, well?
You can watch all day qnd night in the sky and deny everything because it doesn't make sense to you, but things happen even if doesn't make sense to you. Universe doesn't happen because you understand unniverse.
@@yvantartakovsky that made absolutely no sense. Let me guess.. the Earth is flat, there's are lizard people in our government? The Boy Who Cried Wolf. If Aliens do you fly by then nobody's going to pay attention because of all this nonsense.
Also found on the moon. If containing gas, of volcanic origin, if not, solar source is likely. Doug B Vogt explains their origin. No lunar volcanoes, all lunar glass spherules are novae ejectae. Nuclear origin have also different signature characteristics. Isotope signatures also differ between the types.
Some people question if it makes sense to search aliens from radio transmissions, which kinda would make sense, if they were found. Meanwhile my man Avi Loeb is assuming aliens would build vessels with ferromagnetic materials when most of metals aren't ferromagnetic.
Avi is making a lot of noise in the entire alien disclosure process/scene. One day in the next decade all these fools that argue against it will all a sudden say "I knew aliens were here all along" pathetic. Do your research and wake up people. We have been intelligently "evolved" over tens or hundreds of thousands of years. Most people do not have the brain power or gumption to believe this fact but in the not so distant future none will be able to deny it.
Using radio signals is like waiting for some non-human intelligence to randomly call our phones.. prolly not going to happen. Though, there's overwhelming evidence to support the UAP phenomenon being real, not to mention the recent UAP Disclosure Amendment submitted by congress.. which was shot down by the senators with the largest Defense industry donations lol can't make this stuff up, folks.
I really like this video, i think, all topics of this type, have to be address like this, not confronting, but showing why it doesn't hold, and how it can be explained with simple, down to earth explanations.
Whereas I agree that it's pretty stupid to jump from space rock to advanced technology; it's also pretty stupid to assume that we would know the difference. ET tech could be staring us in the face and we probably wouldn't know it.
Well done, Anton! You'd figure sphereules from an object moving 60,000 km/sec or more would be so microscopic they would be transported a long way from the splashdown site by ocean currents to begin with.
No, not well done. I want to know why this too fast meteor went almost completely through our atmosphere, before disintegrating. I want to know why he didn't mention the military concluding an extra solar origin in the first case. I'd like to know why the scared hounds bark at this instead at the moon. 🚀🏴☠️🎸
As usual excellent and exquisite analysis scrupulously demonstrating scientific objectivity. Anton definitely sets the standard for an objective scientific approach. On a side note it's worth noting that the Marshalls, overall, are perfectly safe today, with respect to the residual materials from those nuclear tests. The background radiation levels are well within all current acceptable standards for background radiation and radioactive fallout. There is one waste repository of interest which contains still dangerous waste materials in an entombment. Even if it were exposed to sea water, which is not considered an immediate threat based on very recent studies, it would result in no substantially dangerous wide area contamination though immediate areas might present moderate environmental problems and its immediate location would be dangerous (my primary source is studies cited in a U.S. Senate hearing in 2020). Because the entombment contains weapons program materials it will likely remain locally problematic from some time, but for the immediate future the entombment integrity seems reliable. Effectively this local site amounts to a crudely, but effectively, entombed HLWI site. When listening to the description of the study's collection methods I couldn't help but imagine the impacts to the immediate sea floor environments sampled. Although the overall area was probably too small to cause substantial negative ecological impacts the fact is we know very little about deep sea ecosystems. I wonder if the team did any kind of EIS? Anyway, I'll let my usual verbose comments stand for an algorithm comment, and conclude by saying, yet again, "Thank you, Anton!", for your wonderful work!
Was that the “DOE Runit Dome Report to Congress” which was presented to justify not spending billions to remediate the problems which are claimed by every NGO or non-US gov entity which have made any comment on the matter? I’m not buying in one way or the other, but I’d call a DOE study on this the same as an “expert witness” report from one side of a court case as opposed to peer reviewed science free of any conflicts of interest; you get what you pay for. Storm surges during king tides already more than lapping at it…
@@whatdamaththe Marshal Island is a very poor argument. The samples were taken 1400 miles away from the nearest. Nearly the whole Earth population lives within 1400 miles of a past nuclear explosion. The coal ash argument ignores the extraterrestrial isotopes. Avi Loeb is exactly fighting against these types of dismissive debunking arguments that are taken as gospel. You are already convinced the technological conclusion is fake so you don’t bother to check the validity of your own arguments.
Manganese nodule Polymetallic nodules, also called manganese nodules, are mineral concretions on the sea bottom formed of concentric layers of iron and manganese hydroxides around a core. As nodules can be found in vast quantities, and contain valuable metals, deposits have been identified as a potential economic interest.
The guy is smart he's tenured at Harvard. They don't pass those out like candy. Its like the most prestigious thing you can get. He don't have anything to worry about.
@@michaelstiller2282 I also have two University degrees, as do many others. That doesn't award you a pass for bad science, unfortunately. Even at Harvard.
@@michaelstiller2282 I'm fully aware of all that lol. I just don't know how it relates to his science being beyond the veil of criticism or rebuttal. I think you may have some type of warped impression of how scientific research operates. Just because you're a chair at Harvard doesn't make every single piece of research you do impenetrable and 100 percent correct. In fact, in this such case.. The overwhelming majority of the scientific community leans towards my opinion. A lot more research is needed, a lot more data and a lot more evidence before we jump to the conclusion of "aliens" like his published papers do. I've read every single one, they are not good papers.
Hi Anton, you are great at what you do and have 1.2 m subscribers and weld a bit of clout in online science communication. Why not send your critique to Avi and let him reply. I'm sure he would respond. Now that would be interesting.
well he wouldnt be able to monetize pop science videos by not telling people all the relevant facts then huh? Ive caught him straight up lying about things in videos but since most people dont take the time youtubers can lie to them and they wont know it.
Avi is a Harvard scientist conducting real science on the UAP subject that has been so validated and corroborated in 2023 by whistle-blowers. We even had congress draft the "UAP Disclosure Amendment". Why are we still acting like the Catholic church in the 1600s? At this point I think Anton is on the Payroll of the Defense Contractors, like Senator Mike Turner who blocked the UAPDA. Because either he just sucks as a youtuber or he's paid to push disinfo.
I would bet that it will turn out that many of the samples have a strange origin but one that has nothing to do with ET. The sparklers that people use on festive occasions spit out little spheres of iron. Arc welding also makes spheres of iron. I would bet that some of the stuff lofted by a volcano would be magnetic bits. The significant meteor showers are from the earth passing through a comet tail and we know that comets are from a long way out in the solar system.
it is most likely that these balls were formed from the combustion of space debris, the formation of such compounds in nature contradicts the laws of geochemistry, and besides, Avi Loeb is not a geologist, so the likelihood that these balls are micrometeorites tends to zero
Interesting Anton, particularly curious to know why you and other individuals from the scientific community keep putting words in Avi Loeb's mouth. You know what I'm talking about, therefore I suggest you at least remove the word "claim" from this episode's titlebanner. Thank you Sir for your humble admission of this crass error. LOL
There is a war going on in the science community, and we have seen here on what side Anton is clearly. But Avi is a great guy in my opinion and has the guts to be honest and talk from his heart.
I was so beyond hyped when Oumuamua passed by, especially given its resemblance to the probe in the Arthur C. Clark novel Rendezvous with Rama. However, ever since Avi Loeb has gotten his name attached to it, it's lost a lot of credibility in my opinion. Tantalizing, yes, but unless someone builds a high powered probe that will catch up with the object and observe it directly, I'm no longer gonna play the 'what if' game. Also, everyone has talked about how after Oumuamua swung around the sun, there was a slight acceleration, but nowhere has it been mentioned just how much acceleration, so far as I've seen. That would tell me something if we had some actual numbers to look at.
IMO it is possible that Oumuamua is an alien spaceship. That drawing of a rock is imagination. There are no pictures from it taken close-by. And even it could have an external rock-layer. Would be ideal armour for the spaceship against the dangers of the universe. If the alien civilization were parking their spaceship for a while in a dense gas cloud, it will be soon covered with rocky material because its own gravity will attract a lot of the dust particles close by. Once a sufficient thick layer they can put a crew in it and go. The rocky layer protects them from (micro) meteorites, radiation and sudden temperature changes. The tumbling is a method to keep some gravity inside it. If it does not have to be launched from a planet anymore, the mass of that spaceship is an advantage if they use gravity slingshots to speed up and change direction (just like our own space probes do).
I can't take their conclusions seriously when I know from the start that they thought they could actually recover pieces of the meteor out in the Pacific ocean. That's absolutely nuts!
Yeah I heard that too - I think they would need to do much more comprehensive sampling around that area to convince people that what they found was from this particular event. I wonder how much sea floor they covered? I kinda like Avi Lobe as he shakes things up a bit, but he does seem to make himself a target by suggesting alien origins for things.
Well they did. There's published data you can literally look up yourself. The science they did is actually impressive the isotopes they found cannot be from earth but can be found in our star system so it is likely a meteor, now it's just debating the conclusions.
Here's that Oumuamua video that explains why it had the unusual acceleration and strange wobble: th-cam.com/video/hkZRUs8A_9Q/w-d-xo.html
It's a little more nefarious than "sensationalism", as Avi Loeb is part of a larger psychological operation centered out of the state of Israel, in conjunction with CIA.
These types of "sensational" UFO media blasts are about psychologically priming the public masses, for the ultimate goal to instigate an "outside universal threat" (to quote Ronald Reagan's 1987 speech to the UN) that creates a need for trillions of tax payer funds towards developing a larger "space force", in which the Military Industrial Complex will benefit...
Thank you!
This does really not explain how it was able to keep it's tumling rate what I mentioned in my comment. Actually this is what makes me to lose my trust for science. Why it is better to make exraordinary claims without explanation or proof if it does not include aliens?
This is just stupid.
Looks like floating space poop.
Put dedicated time into looking up at night. Best times are the hours just before and after sunset and sunrise. You will see.
I’m published in the field of micrometeorites. You have to be so careful with “small round metallic objects”. For instance we were looking for micrometeorites in 3 billion years old cherts. To crack open the Chert we used a technique that use high voltage to smash the rock into dust. We started finding thousands of them, then we realised it was small metal droplets from the anode and cathode we were finding. We changed our technique to good old fashioned acid and we started finding real meteorites.
Did you do any flint napping? That would be fun to pick up a stone age craft while pursuing a PhD in Astrophysics.
Same with welding, and blacksmithing. In fact, small iron beads always form if you gather iron from iron eating bacteria or iron rich silt and heat it in a blast furnace.
@@RanstoneOceanic smokers maybe? Bubbles in spherules maybe coupled with certain amounts of salinity of the ocean make them just buoyant enough to travel some distance?
not to be a dick but shouldn't that have been an obvious result of smashing the rocks with high voltage?
@@helloyes2288 ... when there is enough metal in that rock.
Well, it's difficult to have people from all faculties at hand. How should they know, that welding practice would be needed to say "no". (Because of the side effect that metal droplets would be produced).
"A poop shaped asteroid"
Anton
Dec 2023
Ha-ha! He said "Ass-teroid!" 😕
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New merch drop?
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From obsession to totally pissed off in just a few years, poor omuamua😂
It’s not actually extra terrestrial. That would be ridiculous. It’s a spaceship but made on earth. The big foot species are actually much more advanced and have developed interstellar travel. I don’t have any sources or evidence because I have made it all up, but you can’t prove it isn’t true… so maybe it’s possible. I think that’s how that works. Science!
What?
Crazy that there is a lot of people who look at stuff like Jacque vallee, used to believe aliens extraterrestrial then after years of looking more into he said it seems the they are subterranean or inner dimensional
UFOs are UAPs now, I’m surprised instead of Bigfoot we haven’t stalled calling them the more inclusive term of bigfeet.
They're Wookies, I tell ya!
Would it? Be so ridiculous?
Mr. Anton. I started following you, not because of some alien hype, but because you daily fill my brain with amazing knowledge about the universe
Beryllium can be used as a neutron reflector which can be useful in a nuke, so seeing beryllium and uranium melted together seems to make sense for nuclear fallout
Watch the point if you actually look through the scientific literature you find references that that chemical signature can be created by the right kind of material interacting with seawater for a few thousand years
Neutron reflectors in nukes are made of styrofoam. Yes, STYROFOAM!
Also,Berylium is made by spalling from heavy atoms,so finding it with Lanthanum and Uranium is no surprise.
@@GeneralSullanot a neutron reflector, more like another compressive force based on turning the expanded polystyrene into a plasma. Although I am a tiny bit skeptical of that explanation.
I'd expect them to get transmuted from proximity to a nuclear blast.
Regarding collecting magnetic things with a magnet, if you haven't cleaned your gutters in a long time it's almost guaranteed that there's some tiny meteorites collected in there that fell on your roof and got washed into your gutters.
There's whole plants growing in those things so I should have a pretty good chance lol
I called Avi and he's doing an expedition to my gutters in 2025!
Researchers have been collecting samples from the roof of Canterbury Cathedral, their gutters haven't been cleaned in hundreds of years.
I read those can also contain spherules from volcanos. I collected dozens once from a waterbutt connected to a gutter; found loads of black and red globules.
Can also come from the power tools used by the builders.
They can't find a 777 on the ocean floor, but "Hey, lets go look for some fancy grains of sand"
To be fair, water is really fucking crushing and space is literally almost empty
Like there is stuff in our system and we can tell what it is by how it moves and once we know what it is and if it’s in our solar system then we can just zoom in and a professional 3d artist can make a rendering of it and boom space object
The ocean is filled with random shit, blocks light, and crushes anything that goes too deep
I like the fact that this conversation wouldnt happen if avi doesnt do what he does, avi loeb is legend 🎖
TY Anton for countering clickbait "science" with real science.
NO! This was not real science. Anton should be ashamed of himself for misrepresenting Loeb's paper. It's disgusting & disingenuous behaviour, and I'm ashamed of Anton for it.
And anton would know lol
Unlike several other reputable science channels, you treated this whole fiasco with the exact amount of respect it deserved. Oh hi Neil.
I did sigh a lot in between cuts.
@@whatdamath That's maybe what I appreciate the most with you. It always seemed to me that you are very aware of your own potential bias and make a lot of extra effort to stay neutral.
PS: I try to not judge people just because their life brought them to different thoughts processes than mines, but I did smirked a lot.
You mean by starting with a presupposition instead of beginning with a neutral examination?
Amanda Collier has a great video about crackpots and she eventually dedicate part of the video to talking about Avi Loebs crackpottery
@@BooksRebound Many inventors and discoverers throughout history were deemed "crackpots" too, until the World learned otherwise. The elitist ivory towers of academia don't hold the sacred truth.
Avi Loeb just announced the sandwich you had left in the fridge was actually eaten by aliens.
They found a meteor with copium in it and realized it came from an alien argument between two alien internet celebrities.
Some copium and some copium chloride (a salt assuming copium is intended to be a metal in this joke)
Hahaa! 'Poop-shaped'... that's so much better than the standard description of it as 'cigar shaped', or just 'oblong'. ...Ya nailed it, A.P.!
I think the idea is that the possibility of an ancient alien relic should not be completely ignored... Remember thinking the Earth was NOT the center of the universe could get you burnt at the stake. Ouch.
Great reminder! Also they murdered Giordano Bruno because he suggested there are other planets in other star systems, and they probably have habitable worlds... Damn now that I think about it, they probably killed him because they knew he was right!
I don’t think Avi ever said he thinks it was aliens. I think he said he can’t rule it out, and thus it’s possible. In doing so, he brings attention the subject and gets people interested who maybe wouldn’t be otherwise.
And his books
Avi is a scammer. Let's see what the next groundbreaking 'Alien' discovery he pops his head up for. 😂
Well, Avi isn't a scammer. He's going to publish his paper on the UAP findings in 2024, coincidentally the same year that we are going to have disclosure. Catch up, blind folks
He goes way farther than that he's a charlatan
@@gags730 scammer of what? All of the $ he’s raised has gone to Galileo. You think grants don’t have red tape? You can just spend it on anything? All goes into his wallet? Every penny has to be accounted for dude.
There's one issue there, Anton... Dr. Leob also collected spherules out of that region, to compare as control samples.
I agree, alien technology is probably not the case. But the composition is interesting.
it's not aliens lol
@@alpha.wintermute That's kinda what I said...
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Except in the paper they admit to cherry picking samples from the control: "Additional spherules were selected from
run 22 and run 17, as they are not on IM1’s path and provide the background abundance patterns for spherules from the solar
system."
So yeah, they just picked some spheres from the control area and said "yup, these go in the paper"
Naaah..
He is probably looking for Chinese spy vehicles.
He is Mossad.
this reminds me of a showerthought I had a while ago, which is, if an asteroid can send debris into space, it means that there might be some dinosaur fossils floating around solar system
And foliage 😉
Although it would have probably been fried in the process......?
good luck picking out which teensy bits of cosmic dust are the remains of a vaporised t-rex, bud ...
And dinosaur poop containing caveman bits! 😅
Not fossils, but chunks of desiccated dinosaur were at one point floating out there. They would unfortunately be irradiated to dust by now (66M years later). I think the average size of anything that flew into space from the Chicxulub impact would be quite small to start. Still, not impossible that a fist sized chunk of organic matter might be out there.
Everyone keeps ignoring the great part ;;
And that is.... That's an amazing shower thought! \o/
You can't have a non-biased opinion when you start with a biased opinion. He got his tracking data from the US defense department and NASA, and they're usually kind of correct on stuff, as far as I know.
If you want to know who controls you, just figure out who you aren't allowed to criticize.
Can't criticize something that doesn't "exist".
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and your point is?
The data just says that an object entered the atmosphere really fast.
^^ The data said it was going faster than the solar system's escape velocity, implying an interstellar origin.
God, I agree Loeb is hyping this up way too much, but people act like such smart asses over this when they don't know WTF they're talking about.
Watching Dr. Loeb's evolution from 'respected Harvard scientist' to 'dude who talks about aliens on podcasts' really helped me stay sane during lockdown.
Aliens are literally real, catch up lol
The truth can be established using special open source exploration methods (TEXT MINING). 🕳🕳🕳🕳🕳🕳🕳🕳Popular presenter Tucker Carson talked about UFOs, he referred to the publication of the American newspaper The Wall Street Journal (12.07.22), where the article Putin and UFO sightings was published (authors Holman W., Jenkins Jr.) - there was a topic discussed: if this is a secret military equipment, then who produces "flying saucers" - the United States or Russia? This is not surprising, because modern electrokinetic "flying saucers" are a clever secret technology, but all within the framework of ordinary physics! I will also clarify one important point. "Flying saucers" and devices known as "dark triangles" are a technique invented on Earth. There, the railguns are reduced to the size of a ballpoint pen rod - they are quite miniature. They are assembled into flat panels that resemble plasma panels of conventional televisions with a cellular structure, and the current supply scheme to the arresters is similar. The distance between the contacts is negligible - an ordinary spark of an electric discharge becomes a bridge between them (sometimes rail sensors are made coaxial - similar to direct-flow reactive ones). All cells work synchronously: they emit plasma streams - sparks of electrical discharges accelerated by induction force. The speed of the outgoing plasma is enormous, and the number of railguns assembled on the panel reaches hundreds of thousands. The total motor impulse in the end turns out to be impressive. The discharges follow with a frequency of megahertz, each pulse enters the air, which, in turn, twists into toroidal rings. That's how this secret technique flies. They are made in the USA, Russia, and China. It's time to declassify!
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I think he has always talked about aliens. But same as you in following history.
I want to believe
He always liked to talk about aliens. What changed was the attention given to that side of him and he probably monetized it.
It isn't that uncommon that good scientists get more well known later in their career from talking about their personal pet peeve. Take Richard Dawkins for example, who is mainly known for his atheist activism and less for his gene centric model of evolution.
Where are the links to all of these studies that demonstrate counter evidence? For instance, the one that demonstrates the production of coal mine ash from gold mines, and the one that confusingly demonstrates that extrasolar objects must ablate to sub centemeter remnants.
Finally, someone is calling out Mr Loeb. He is without doubt an incredibly knowledgeable and experienced scientist. However, as we all know extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, which in this case is conspicuous in its absence! I’m guessing this is for additional funding and book sales for Mr Loeb!
Well done Anton.
Avi released Mass Spec data on the sphereules.
It's in the arXiv paper.
They only released data on Iron (Fe), but the results put them WAY out of the isotopic ratios for Terrestrial Iron.
So that rules out coal ash, welding cherries, battleship armor, and all the other but-wattabout counterarguments from Earthside.
The Fe isotope ratios ARE within the range of meteorites from within our Solar system. But as you and Avi pointed out, some of this can be affected by vapor phase fractionation during atmospheric entry.
That same atmospheric entry heating would probably make any Oxygen mass spectrometry useless, for pretty obvious atmospheric composition reasons.
But what WOULD be very interesting is mass spectrum of the Uranium isotopes.
These would be far less affected by thermal fractionation, and due to their decay rates, could peg these sphereules as extra-solar.
But no test would ever be able to prove if it was a techno artifact after being airburst and melted into millimeter sized sphereules.
Unless they find some extremely exotic or unknown material in the samples, which can only be achieved through manufacturing. The important thing is to keep looking, not sitting on the laurels of preconceived ideas in the ivory towers of academia.
He didn't even mention the military detecting this meteor, and that they concluded the extra solar origin because of its unusual speed. Also that it disintegrated much too late.
This guy Avi Loeb s only doing his job. He is not only a high egghead at Oxford, but also has some kind of relation to the US military concerning UAPs.
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@@MichaelWinter-ss6lxhe mentions the velocity @ 2:20
It would not be surprising if he dredged some meteorite fragments, but almost certainly not from that one fast moving interstellar meteor.
Egghead, yes, but Oxford, no... believe he is chair of Physics at Harvard. For folks in positions like that, I'd say self-,promotion is part of the job description.
Avi never claimed the spherules were remnants of an “alien/ET spaceship”. What he did claim is that that they come from an “interstellar object”.
there's a clip of the exact quote from the paper in the video.
It is maybe time to read back a few old articles my dear friend. Because yes, sadly Avi did make these claims multiple times. Just google it and you will find about hundred articles from Avi Loeb in which he does claim this. There are also plenty of videos out there in which he does claim that those spherules are not only from a interstellar object, but also that is has been made by a alien civilization.
Ther is a war going on betwen the nerds in the science academy, and i guess Anton is trying to ridicule Avi as mutch as he can. Im on Avi's side and listened to many of his interviews love the guy. But Anton is not as wonderfull as i thoght i guess.
Nor is your English. @@sirnirvikingur
@@sirnirvikingur There is no war. Avi is a fraud making money off of UFO mania.
Scientist: "I prefer to use Occam's Razor"
Avi Loeb: "It has to be aliens!"
It would be interesting to come up with a test that estimates how long the spherical have been underwater. If that estimate doesn't match the impact date of the meteor that is suspected to be extra solar then I think the gig would be up with this stuff.
Yes, why not do some very complicated and elaborate research nobody knows how to and that will take perhaps even decades to get any meaningful results on some rocks nobody cares about. That's how you ruin a scientific career. I'd love to see that research proposal though: "I want 3 PhD students and some money to buy a bunch of Uranium and recreate a meteor and nuclear waste products to see how long something was underwater to prove someone wrong, or right. IDK. I guess 10 nukes should be good enough to test a couple of variants". I mean it would take at least as long as those rocks were in the water, wouldn't it?
clever
Maybe by taking samples of the bottom of the sea where the meteorite was found. Or the algae or any organism that could give a hint about it.
Yes good idea. Also since they are mostly made of iron the surface should rust at a calculable rate so that might be another way.
They would need to keep spherules in the dark pre testing wouldnt they. I know that thermoluminescene aging of rocks has to be done without sunlight hitting the sample.
An even better test would be to sample an area of equal distance from the Marshall Islands but in a completely different location
They did this.
Spherical objects in the ocean make complete sense. If a liquid molten object falls it will form a sphere as it falls and cools to retain the shape... Ancient Greeks dropped molten metal off of tall towers into water to make spheres... Nature does it too.
It’s actually surprisingly difficult to get perfect spheres by dropping molten metal into water. I tried this a few times with silver for some jewellery, and even getting something somewhat blob liked requires a layer of oil on top of the water. But maybe the height makes a difference.
@@luipaardprint yeah, it's the height that makes the difference, the molten sphere has to cool down most of the way in the air and solidify before impact, the water just finishes the cooling process and keeps it from splatting into hard ground and deforming on impact. This is why they dropped their molten metal from tall towers.
Carl Sagan (amongst many others) : "Extraordinary claims, require extraordinary proof."
And if there were none, Dr. Avi wouldn’t start chasing it.
Independently verifiable *6σ* or greater evidence.
Carl Sagan was into UFOs in the 1950s but then was an avid debunker in the 1960s and 1970s all of a sudden when he got close tonthe people who done the conduin report amd other well known government debunkers and disinformation workers. They say extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence yet dark matter and dark energy that hasnt been proven is widely accepted in the science community dispite zero extraordinary evidence in fact theres far more ufo evidence than dark matter or dark energy. Strange isnt it?
@@13xBlackSun He would. His idea of an alien interstellar object was based on quite literally nothing.
stupid argument
“Don’t be hasty.” -Treebeard
I love your programs they’re very informative. Including this one and the one question I have is if there’s Coal Ash + the Marshall Islands…. Wouldn’t sinking ships during World War II emit coal ash when sunk? some of the older ships that were sunk being coal powered?
Coal ash could come from anywhere on Earth.
Coal ash is there in abundance and it must be highly magnetic. It also stays all in one spot on the ocean floor. Oh, he didn't mention that; forget it.
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beryllium is also a major component of the neutron reflector inside nuclear weapons, I would think though if it really were the case it would be easy to confirm by checking the Uranium isotope distribution to see if it's natural or not.. although some natural unenriched uranium is used in the bomb
Modern Occam's razor: It's aliens.
One thing slightly overlooked is: Would "advanced alien civilizations" use alloys? Humans use alloys because we can't make anything better. If you have advanced tech and want something strong, durable, and heat-resistant, you'd use a molecular lattice similar to diamond (carbon) or sapphire (aluminium oxide). Basically, light atoms with very high bond strength. Need something more flexible? Build it into the molecular structure using nanoscale molecular engineering - nantoechnology, basically. Once you have that technology it becomes the easiest way to make anything and alloys are not required.
I'm kinda glad to see Avi Loeb getting scrutiny recently. acollierastro has a good video about him too.
Did you like how in the 1600s the Catholic church imprisoned Galileo for saying the Earth wasn't the center of the Solar System? Did you like how they publicly murdering a citizen named Giordano Bruno because he suggested there are exo-solar systems, with possible habitable worlds. Both of these men were RIGHT.
Good vid as always Anton. I will add though that there is value in a small percentage of scientists pushing venture capital into the pursuit and analysis of meteorites and extrasolar objects. Science does have its own risks of becoming groupthink-ish and we have seen that historically.
Unless you finds a sign with "made in Alpha Centaur" it's not aliens.
I'm willing to bet that alpha centaurians get most of their s*** from China as well.
It's only Aliens if it's from the Aliens region of France. Otherwise, it's just sparkling extraterrestrial life.
Wonderful as always Anton. Thank you. 🙏😎
"If you want to get famous, just talk about aliens." Very true! They are in fashion again!
Coal mining aliens with a thing for poop.
I’m waiting for pirates to get popular again before I reveal my theory about ancient extrasolar pirate ships.
@@MarcosElMalo2lol
Suggestion: Cover the Weston meteorite event. I think it would be interesting to cover how we assumed space didn't exist to accepting rocks fall from the sky. Also a great example of arrogance and bias.
Loeb is turning into that "Alien Memes Guy".
His "Oumuamua as broken alien light sail probe" doesn't hold water if you consider the likelihood of broken light sails lacking the ability to accelerate due to light pressure.
And his touting of alien signals from Proxima Centauri neatly dovetailed with his involvement in Breakthrough: Starshot.
Be wary.
The Angry Astronaut has been harping on and on and on about all this....aliunz!!! Sigh.
@@sneezyferret6482 because more people watch nonsense about aliens.
He's an embarrassment to his faculty and Harvard as a whole. His unhinged rant on a SETI meeting awhile back was exactly what I'd expect from the tinfoil-UFO-crowd. He's completely lost the plot. All that's missing is some religious nonsense and he's right up there with the Ancient Alien cults.
No he isn't. We're aware of the UAPDA and the whistle-blowers like David Grusch. Aliens are real and they're already here. And we have at least 12 of their craft. Catch up. It's like when the church didn't believe Galileo lol
That's why Avi named it "Galileo Protect".
Mr. Petrov, It is nice to find people like you who insert some skepticism and realism into wild claims, while also acknowledging that the wild claims could be true, however unlikely. Bias is hard to remove in science sometimes.
avi loeb moment
EDIT: lmao I posted this before he was even mentioned in the video. truly a crackpot of the ages
Come on Anton don’t be a hater. Why don’t you get Avi on the the show?
No need to let a charlatan promote himself even more.
They did a control area , and the shape of the distribution of those pieces location seems to match the meteor
This piece identifies a huge issue in all research today…researchers aren’t being thorough in their efforts. Time to learn to be thorough or get people like Anton to absolutely decimate your findings for way too many people to see…thus becoming infamous for not being a good researcher.
The one thing Anton loves saying "it is not aliens".🤣🤣🤣
Except this time it is.
He knows anything great superpower.
@@alangknowles Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
Most people like being right.
@@alangknowlesSource : trust me bro
Cant wait until Anton catches up and we get the videos talking ablut the different UAP and NHI lol
Avi Loeb just consigned himself and his claims to the dust bin of history. Some people just can't resist sensationalism.
Bro anything that isn't Nobel price winning ground breaking science goes into the dust bin of history
Alien Boss: Who's throwing rocks at Earth again?
Alien Workers: ...."cricket noises"....
Dont hate on him Anton, he is a decent guy with a valid point. It could be alien and that should be considered reason enough to investigate the things he has presented
I follow you on a daily basis and find your podcasts very informative and enjoyable to watch. I would love you to do a review of possible UAP's and the footage that has been released by US and South American Governments. Some of the footage is somewhat unexplained and suggestion being possible alien technology. In particular the footage taken by a US military aircraft. Just maybe could these be unmanned craft/probes examining Earth? When we eventually travel to the stars as we have already started to do Eg Mars would we not send these type of unmanned probes?
Like acadamia, Anton doesn't acknowledge any of that lol This video is the closest we get, until he starts making videos about NHI and UAP post disclosure as if he was always on board.
Aliens: We have arrived!
Aton: It's not aliens.
Anton, spherules are naturally occurring terrestrial phenomenon and are discovered in all sizes, tiny to huge, and of all compositions.
The most famous ones are found in meso-America associated with PRE-Aztec archeology and are on display in museums as MEGALITHS (as opposed to micro-liths).
Of interest to this video are other "megaliths" that are attributed to "lost civilizations" and technologies of non-terrestrial origin. All amusing all pure unmitigated BUNK.
The scientists on the Gallileo project would disagree with you
Coal burning steamships traversing the ocean could also explain those tiny spherules as well.
Good presentation Anton. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
this is a logical fallacy. "extraordinary claims" isnt an objective term and its based purely on peoples opinions and feelings. Claims require evidence and its unscientific to say a specific claim is extraordinary or that specific evidence is or isnt extraordinary. All you are doing is engaging in scientism... no different then religious dogma.
@@iraniansuperhacker4382random garbage at the bottom of the ocean = aliens is an extraordinary claim. If you find the Milenium Falcon at the bottom of the ocean, you wouldn't need to supply mountains of convincing paperwork..it would be easily provable. Why is this so hard to understand?
@@iraniansuperhacker4382what an enlightened statement. Soon the close minded fools will be forced to open their minds to the reality that we are here because of "them". I can make hundreds of statements that stand alone in suggesting that aliens probably exist and probably have been here helping humanity.. now put hundreds of statements together and you have the culmination of data that cannot be ignored. One day soon these same fools that say "we are alone" will be saying "I knew they were here all along" pathetic. Open your minds and look around... The clues are everywhere on this planet and ancient scriptures all over the world.
Beryllium was fairly common as an initiate in the core of fission type weapons used around the Marshall Islands. Good call Anton.
Traveling at 60 kps -- just under 78,000 miles/hour -- is within the range of 25,000 to 160,000 that meteors hitting the atmosphere travel.
60 km/s is about 130,000mph.
Still doable for meteorite on high elliptical also getting rammed by Earth at 30km/s.
But it would be a lucky shot.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." So many people forget this.
no they dont. Claims require evidence. There is no way you can measure what an "extraordinary claims" or what "extraordinary evidence" even is. That is 100% opinion. "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." is a literal logically fallacy that sagan was using to try and teach people to be able to tell the difference between good evidence and bad evidence. You are just repeating pop science talking points that you heard in the past with no reason understanding of what you are even saying.
silly statement
I did not realize this was a contentious phrase. Although from a brief search the people most offended by it seem to be the ones making the extraordinary claims. *shrug* Wonder if I'd get the same level of blowback if I used Occam's Razor instead?
@@MasterTMO you are getting blow back because you are repeating things you have heard in pop science media without any real understanding of what they mean.... how do you not see this?
@@MasterTMO and the irony here is that if you occams razor this shit the reality is the most likely explanation is that alien tech is getting to earth in some way. Which is double ironic since there was multiple semi official studies done by multiple governments all involving various military or STEM experts and they basically unanimously came to the conclusion that based on what we know about shit we are seeing... aliens is the only sensible explanation. Im not saying I think or believe these are aliens but the people whos job is it is to know these things all seem to think there is a non human intelligent presence of some kind near or on earth.
I am not convinced that Avi Loeb's motivation in claiming Oumouamoua was possibly a alien spacecraft was to simply garner fame. Having a range of expert opinions to explain unexplained phenomenon and data seems to me to be both healthy and normal. It is the scientific process that is used to whittle down explanations and deliver to us some kind of truth. TY Anton for the vid.
However as Anton pointed out there is a lot of available science that could have been used to scientifically support or debunk Avi's theories that has been omitted (sin of omission-sin of commission who knows ?) . For such an expensive mission, lab time would have been a very small fraction of the budget.
There should be more scientists 'thinking out of the box'. Most take all they learned for granted.
That is why we now have the 'crisis in cosmology' where they all have to struggle with the new discoveries from the James Webb Telescope.
Whistleblowers corroborate the science that Avi is doing on the UAP subject
@@thingonathinginathing then why did he do incomplete testing and what's worse, cherry pick the testing he did do? It's almost like he was rigging the results of this project. Respect comes from scientific rigor not sloppy hypothesis backed by half baked testing.
@longlowdog Don't know what you're talking about, I've been following the Galileo Project pretty closely lmao Wait for the Paper to be published soon in 2024..
So far we have: no control sample collection, no peer review, "researcher" bias to "ALIENS!"
Yeah, going to conclude "more woo."
Call him crazy, call him nuts,, Dr Leob actually went out and did research, in the middle of the ocean, While many others Sat in front of a camera and criticized him online.
What he did wasn't research, it was just a media event. He had already drawn his conclusions, prolly even had the paper written before the boat left the dock.
It is better to criticize online than make bad science and waste what little funding science gets.
He got the funds, he did the research, he presented the findings. You can criticize, peer review, the findings all you want. But he did what he set out to do. Thats not a waste. Thats called research.
@@MrIamestranged He decided what he would conclude in advance, gathered inconclusive and sometimes cherry-picked data that he claims supports his pre-determined conclusion, then went on a press tour to present that unreviewed data in a highly self-promotional way to publicize his upcoming book. That's not research. That's called grandstanding.
You are correct about one thing tho: he did what he set out to do. But that wasn't research -- it was promotions for his book. And he was quite successful in that endeavor -- "Interstellar" was one of the most heavily publicized and highly pre-ordered books of 2023.
@olencone4005 actually everything i said was correct, not just 1 thing. And your response proved my point. Scientific research should be criticized, but don't throw shade at the person who did the work. All Anton does is read a script into a camera. But that's ok, thats what he does. Everyone is an expert, right?
I am tired of sensation seekers making outlandish claims. Thanks, Anton, gor your level-headedness.
That’s a space turd!
You beat me to it. Wasn’t expecting that. I’m impressed. You’re a man of culture.
It was clearly a turd-berg ejected from an alien sewer during a millennial cleaning.💩
That’s a terrible thing to call Profesor Loeb. Heehee!
I don’t like how a lot of people are way too quick to explain away the unknown.
For example, the people who believe that a space rock could only be aliens. Or the people who believe that space voids are these hyper advanced alien civilizations covering up stars.
Even if this doesn’t become something significant, I applaud Avi Loeb for tackling something so controversial.
Your rational disputations of the claims of extra-solar-systemic origins of Loeb's spherules bring to mind that old Monty Python tv episode, "Oh, You're No Fun!" Hahaha😂 I wish I could be more fun myself but I think you're probably right.
We don't know. But new ideas are always welcome...and give us the impetus to investigate. We can always hope that we learn we are part of a vibrant and living universe of multiple/exotic civilizations.
sadly Avi has no new ideas. He just screeches "it's aliens!!" every time anything new is discovered ...
@@RandomGuy-lu1enI respectfully disagree with you wonderful person. Dr Loeb has helped to start a program called The Gallileo Project(please look into the origins of this name) in the hopes to explore unexplained phenomena from a scientific perspective. Sure many of his focuses are on things that could possibly be extraterrestrial, but he himself has said that if the evidence shows obviously that his findings are mundane he will accept those results and publish them. Please don't dismiss him just because his focus is this field. I hope you have a wonderful rest of your day.🙏
@@jacobystonecypher791 problem is, he doesnt search for aliens, he wants to find them.
if he collected the money to get the samples from a public that is very interested in extrasolar material and alien tech then that's probably the financially wise thing to include in his findings 😕
Always makes me uneasy when science communicators bash actual scientists getting data in the field.
Anton the Alien dream killer 😃
Loeb's Razor: of all possible explanations, chose the simplest one involving technologically advanced aliens with pink cat ears.
Have you been living under a rock? 2023 has been the most important year in the history of alien disclosure. Our American government was literally about to Disclosure with the UAP Disclosure Amendment but senator Mike Turner blocked because he's on the payroll of the Defense companies. 2024 Anton is going to be making videos about aliens lol
Avi Loeb telling the aliens how to fly their space ships, compares to a three years old telling their father how to drive their camper.
Can you unpack this strange claim that he's "telling aliens how to fly their spaceship"?
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Yes, one moment their ship is tumbling through space, and the next it is accelerating in one direction, very strange how their engines work, isn't it?
It's space whale poop, aged for billions of years. Regular ambergris goes for $10,000 per pound (2012). Can you imagine how much Space Whale perfume would cost?
People gave Avi millions to do this worthless expedition.
I agree that they jumped too fast, too quick to make such assumptions. Seriously 🎉
*It's an amalgamation of millions of aliens poop ..... Aimed at Earth, but missed!!*
And possibly my last comment, I'm reminded of all the experts that cropped up, pun intended, when the crop circle phenomena happened. Suddenly all these batshit crazy commenters were experts on what and what is not possible to do with grass. Even after it was demonstrated that some guy with a two x four made them by simply flattening the grass in front of him as he walked around... using a little loop on his head to aim himself to maintain straight lines... The heavily invested experts refused to acknowledge reality. It took a few years, but thankfully we don't hear anybody seriously still yapping about crop circles being made by aliens anymore.
Loop on head what?
Wow... if you believe that guys with 2x4s have been making these for decades, in about 4 or 5 hrs we have some magic beans for you..
Your assuming the guy with the two X four wasn't an alien.
the irony here is that the people that you are talking about were never actually able to demonstrate they were able to create the most mysterious aspect of crop circle cases. They tried multiple times but each time they were totally unable to replicate any of the weird aspects of other crop circles. You entire premise and reasoning is based on this idea that those two told dudes told a story about pole vaulting into field with wood and making the markings but thats all it was. A story. They were never able to actually replicate a single crop circle. Im not saying they are made by aliens but they are obviously being made by someone with technology much more advanced then planks of wood. Its important that you dont fall into the same thought traps the alien believer people make and its really easy to do that because unfortunately over the last 20 years skepticism has been somehow been associated with intellectualism
The board and rope guys never demonstrated anything decent compared to what they claimed they could do, nor anything close to any of the examples they claimed they had produced in the past.
Go watch the Why Files episode on crop circles.
Loeb’s next paper should include the soundtrack of the X files.
Anybody else getting sick of this alien thing. I'm not talking about this video, I love your videos Anton. I mean in general. It's all just complete crap.
I'm sure somewhere out there. There is or was or will be an intelligent life form but the possibility that will ever find them, let alone interact with them is mathematically improbable.
Well we have a choice of playing and watch what we want to see and hear.
Mathematically improbable based on what? Human intellect? Just because we are not at a stage advanced enough to leave our solar system does not mean there is not a civilisation out there who are intergalactic. People like you are so far behind reality it's untrue, disclosure is coming and soon we'll know the truth. You think Grusch is making all this up, you think all the high level whistleblowers are just making it up for the laugh, well?
You can watch all day qnd night in the sky and deny everything because it doesn't make sense to you, but things happen even if doesn't make sense to you. Universe doesn't happen because you understand unniverse.
@@yvantartakovsky that made absolutely no sense. Let me guess.. the Earth is flat, there's are lizard people in our government?
The Boy Who Cried Wolf. If Aliens do you fly by then nobody's going to pay attention because of all this nonsense.
@@yvantartakovskyShame there is no evidence of it happening near us.
Also found on the moon. If containing gas, of volcanic origin, if not, solar source is likely.
Doug B Vogt explains their origin. No lunar volcanoes, all lunar glass spherules are novae ejectae. Nuclear origin have also different signature characteristics. Isotope signatures also differ between the types.
Some people question if it makes sense to search aliens from radio transmissions, which kinda would make sense, if they were found. Meanwhile my man Avi Loeb is assuming aliens would build vessels with ferromagnetic materials when most of metals aren't ferromagnetic.
Avi is making a lot of noise in the entire alien disclosure process/scene. One day in the next decade all these fools that argue against it will all a sudden say "I knew aliens were here all along" pathetic. Do your research and wake up people. We have been intelligently "evolved" over tens or hundreds of thousands of years. Most people do not have the brain power or gumption to believe this fact but in the not so distant future none will be able to deny it.
Using radio signals is like waiting for some non-human intelligence to randomly call our phones.. prolly not going to happen. Though, there's overwhelming evidence to support the UAP phenomenon being real, not to mention the recent UAP Disclosure Amendment submitted by congress.. which was shot down by the senators with the largest Defense industry donations lol can't make this stuff up, folks.
i want the aliens to show up and be like “pls stop this is embarrassing, okay were here now you got what you wanted”
I really like this video, i think, all topics of this type, have to be address like this, not confronting, but showing why it doesn't hold, and how it can be explained with simple, down to earth explanations.
Wait until Avi Loeb publishes his paper later in 2024
Also that's not science, that's just being critical of someone who is actually in the field conducting science lmao
Whereas I agree that it's pretty stupid to jump from space rock to advanced technology; it's also pretty stupid to assume that we would know the difference. ET tech could be staring us in the face and we probably wouldn't know it.
Well done, Anton! You'd figure sphereules from an object moving 60,000 km/sec or more would be so microscopic they would be transported a long way from the splashdown site by ocean currents to begin with.
60 km per sec.
No, not well done. I want to know why this too fast meteor went almost completely through our atmosphere, before disintegrating. I want to know why he didn't mention the military concluding an extra solar origin in the first case. I'd like to know why the scared hounds bark at this instead at the moon.
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They sampled a large area and conducted control runs outside the path of the object, that is how the conclusion was drawn
Anton vs. Avi. Getting spicier. And more popcorn...
As usual excellent and exquisite analysis scrupulously demonstrating scientific objectivity. Anton definitely sets the standard for an objective scientific approach. On a side note it's worth noting that the Marshalls, overall, are perfectly safe today, with respect to the residual materials from those nuclear tests. The background radiation levels are well within all current acceptable standards for background radiation and radioactive fallout. There is one waste repository of interest which contains still dangerous waste materials in an entombment. Even if it were exposed to sea water, which is not considered an immediate threat based on very recent studies, it would result in no substantially dangerous wide area contamination though immediate areas might present moderate environmental problems and its immediate location would be dangerous (my primary source is studies cited in a U.S. Senate hearing in 2020). Because the entombment contains weapons program materials it will likely remain locally problematic from some time, but for the immediate future the entombment integrity seems reliable. Effectively this local site amounts to a crudely, but effectively, entombed HLWI site. When listening to the description of the study's collection methods I couldn't help but imagine the impacts to the immediate sea floor environments sampled. Although the overall area was probably too small to cause substantial negative ecological impacts the fact is we know very little about deep sea ecosystems. I wonder if the team did any kind of EIS? Anyway, I'll let my usual verbose comments stand for an algorithm comment, and conclude by saying, yet again, "Thank you, Anton!", for your wonderful work!
Was that the “DOE Runit Dome Report to Congress” which was presented to justify not spending billions to remediate the problems which are claimed by every NGO or non-US gov entity which have made any comment on the matter?
I’m not buying in one way or the other, but I’d call a DOE study on this the same as an “expert witness” report from one side of a court case as opposed to peer reviewed science free of any conflicts of interest; you get what you pay for.
Storm surges during king tides already more than lapping at it…
Thank you so much!
@@whatdamaththe Marshal Island is a very poor argument. The samples were taken 1400 miles away from the nearest. Nearly the whole Earth population lives within 1400 miles of a past nuclear explosion. The coal ash argument ignores the extraterrestrial isotopes. Avi Loeb is exactly fighting against these types of dismissive debunking arguments that are taken as gospel. You are already convinced the technological conclusion is fake so you don’t bother to check the validity of your own arguments.
Manganese nodule
Polymetallic nodules, also called manganese nodules, are mineral concretions on the sea bottom formed of concentric layers of iron and manganese hydroxides around a core. As nodules can be found in vast quantities, and contain valuable metals, deposits have been identified as a potential economic interest.
Avi Loeb is hilarious, he's on the full world tour to permanently ruin any credibility
The guy is smart he's tenured at Harvard. They don't pass those out like candy. Its like the most prestigious thing you can get. He don't have anything to worry about.
@@michaelstiller2282 I also have two University degrees, as do many others. That doesn't award you a pass for bad science, unfortunately. Even at Harvard.
I assume you probably read his papers and listened to him speak. Certainly you probably would never get your new from second hand mass media.
@@ReptilianRichardRamirez He's a tenured professor. The school funds some of his research. He has the top talent as his students.
@@michaelstiller2282 I'm fully aware of all that lol.
I just don't know how it relates to his science being beyond the veil of criticism or rebuttal. I think you may have some type of warped impression of how scientific research operates. Just because you're a chair at Harvard doesn't make every single piece of research you do impenetrable and 100 percent correct.
In fact, in this such case.. The overwhelming majority of the scientific community leans towards my opinion.
A lot more research is needed, a lot more data and a lot more evidence before we jump to the conclusion of "aliens" like his published papers do. I've read every single one, they are not good papers.
It would be instructive to send a sled across point Nemo where most human spacecraft are deorbited and analyze any similar spherules as a control.
Hi Anton, you are great at what you do and have 1.2 m subscribers and weld a bit of clout in online science communication. Why not send your critique to Avi and let him reply. I'm sure he would respond. Now that would be interesting.
well he wouldnt be able to monetize pop science videos by not telling people all the relevant facts then huh? Ive caught him straight up lying about things in videos but since most people dont take the time youtubers can lie to them and they wont know it.
Avi is a Harvard scientist conducting real science on the UAP subject that has been so validated and corroborated in 2023 by whistle-blowers. We even had congress draft the "UAP Disclosure Amendment". Why are we still acting like the Catholic church in the 1600s? At this point I think Anton is on the Payroll of the Defense Contractors, like Senator Mike Turner who blocked the UAPDA. Because either he just sucks as a youtuber or he's paid to push disinfo.
A stone of relatively small size that entered the atmosphere at such a high speed would be completely shattered at high altitude.
I would bet that it will turn out that many of the samples have a strange origin but one that has nothing to do with ET.
The sparklers that people use on festive occasions spit out little spheres of iron. Arc welding also makes spheres of iron. I would bet that some of the stuff lofted by a volcano would be magnetic bits. The significant meteor showers are from the earth passing through a comet tail and we know that comets are from a long way out in the solar system.
The amount of uranium in the outer solar system is next to nothing.
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@@MichaelWinter-ss6lx Can you prove that?
it is most likely that these balls were formed from the combustion of space debris, the formation of such compounds in nature contradicts the laws of geochemistry, and besides, Avi Loeb is not a geologist, so the likelihood that these balls are micrometeorites tends to zero
Interesting Anton, particularly curious to know why you and other individuals from the scientific community keep putting words in Avi Loeb's mouth. You know what I'm talking about, therefore I suggest you at least remove the word "claim" from this episode's titlebanner. Thank you Sir for your humble admission of this crass error. LOL
It's easy to put words in his mouth when I can read the paper and see what he said
There is a war going on in the science community, and we have seen here on what side Anton is clearly. But Avi is a great guy in my opinion and has the guts to be honest and talk from his heart.
@@sirnirvikingur Exactly.
@@sirnirvikingur just because he wants it to be aliens real bad doesn't mean he's a great guy
"The strange... I guess, poop shaped object" 🤣
I was so beyond hyped when Oumuamua passed by, especially given its resemblance to the probe in the Arthur C. Clark novel Rendezvous with Rama. However, ever since Avi Loeb has gotten his name attached to it, it's lost a lot of credibility in my opinion. Tantalizing, yes, but unless someone builds a high powered probe that will catch up with the object and observe it directly, I'm no longer gonna play the 'what if' game.
Also, everyone has talked about how after Oumuamua swung around the sun, there was a slight acceleration, but nowhere has it been mentioned just how much acceleration, so far as I've seen. That would tell me something if we had some actual numbers to look at.
Rendezvous with Rama
The acceleration was above the rate expected of either out gassing or solar radiation.
IMO it is possible that Oumuamua is an alien spaceship. That drawing of a rock is imagination. There are no pictures from it taken close-by.
And even it could have an external rock-layer. Would be ideal armour for the spaceship against the dangers of the universe. If the alien civilization were parking their spaceship for a while in a dense gas cloud, it will be soon covered with rocky material because its own gravity will attract a lot of the dust particles close by. Once a sufficient thick layer they can put a crew in it and go.
The rocky layer protects them from (micro) meteorites, radiation and sudden temperature changes. The tumbling is a method to keep some gravity inside it.
If it does not have to be launched from a planet anymore, the mass of that spaceship is an advantage if they use gravity slingshots to speed up and change direction (just like our own space probes do).
It takes 1 scientist looking into something to throw you off? Wow you're easy. Look up the UAP DISCLOSURE AMENDMENT. Avi knows wtf he is doing lol
"Scientist who spotted a giant star that is 100,000,000,000 x bigger than Earth"
Scientist: That is an Alien Spacecraft!!
I can't take their conclusions seriously when I know from the start that they thought they could actually recover pieces of the meteor out in the Pacific ocean. That's absolutely nuts!
and yet they probably did
they actually checked various areas as a control and the spherules were found only were expected
Yeah I heard that too - I think they would need to do much more comprehensive sampling around that area to convince people that what they found was from this particular event. I wonder how much sea floor they covered?
I kinda like Avi Lobe as he shakes things up a bit, but he does seem to make himself a target by suggesting alien origins for things.
Well they did. There's published data you can literally look up yourself. The science they did is actually impressive the isotopes they found cannot be from earth but can be found in our star system so it is likely a meteor, now it's just debating the conclusions.
@@WillArtiethey literally did
@@WillArtie someone has to do it.maybe you will thank them 1 day😁