I had this when it came out, sadly gone nowadays... 96-99 were great. DnB artists like these were creating alien soundscapes, not so much tunes with structure like a commercial song.
No offense mate but NO you cant make bassline like that with simply software! That sound that Optical use to get on his basslines was purely from Analog clipping his Sequential Circuits synth directly into his analog mixing console. Whether you disagree or not mate, anyone will back me up when I say you cant emulate analog clipping on software (not humanly possible!). So yea mate, I do know what Im talking about as Im obsessed with that sound!
What is obviously hard to mimic is analog distortion and non-linearities. I wouldn't say nowadays productions are worse though, rather the opposite. They're a lot louder and fatter. But, hey, each to his like. And, it has nothing to do with the actual music and composing. This stuff and other stuff from the same era also are quite muddy when it comes to the bass. Much better and more "pro" sounding nowadays.
an experienced producer can use distortion in a way that would make you think it was analog. It's fun to bang on about how you can never recreate analog sounds but that's getting less and less true with current software.
Had been hunting vinyl for about 4 years before this was released and how did it change my outlook ! pushed the boundaries and things changed to a twisted more intricate style . Wish I was having this blasted through a club soundsystem right now .
I've been to all the Virus nights at The Steelyard, and I'm looking forward to pt. 1 of Virus 25 tonight (30.09.2023) there! It's gonna be a banger. Immense line up!
Just amazing!! I can see why alot of labels back then would'nt have been on this level, probably due to the fact that no other producers were coming with beats this well produced & engineered! Its all about the breakdown into 2nd drop in my opinion!! The bassline switch up is just insane, something that cant be done on a laptop!! sorry kids, dont bother... its all about the hardware ;)
Remember I drew ALL over this bout 6-7 years old when I 1st came round DNB & vinyl w JUST a pencil. Nothing too bad looking, but I’m still pissed that I did it. Years later, I decide to put the 2nd drop in a mix on my IG. I can’t actually understand for the life of me to like all the other remixes on this SPECIFIC original. The best executed original of a DNB tune ever imho
Honestly, the fact that software is used so much nowadays isn't directly responsible for the way music has shifted... it does have to do with the fact that you can so easily over-produce stuff to sound all shiny and synthetic, but there's really no requirement. If you've got the songwriting ability, it's not about what you use, but how you use it. You can make original sounds with practically anything. Granted, really sick analog synth sounds are pretty hard to replicate a lot of the time.
The modern Drum & Bass drums all sound so "Muted" & soulless. Hollow, empty, lacking of something important... (not all of it obvoiusly. But over-all it sounds very much like the newer generation have gone soft) "Safespace Drum & Bass" lol. I've got a DVD, regegade hardware, maybe, where one of the Cutting Room guys described Drum & Bass as "The New Punk" because of the energy, the anger, the ruff soundscapes ect" That's what's been lost & watered down.
@@ShadowyFigure83good point...the resemblance is striking tho... it's actually 3 notes with the 2nd note being subtle. Even the pitch is the same note, maybe a little off. Guess I'll never know for sure if the sample has a common origin :)
Techstep vs. Neurofunk? Ed Rush & Optical are DnB. So, *that means Netsky is also DnB* right? To me Netsky is the Liquid variant of DnB where it's very uplifting (specifically transcending) and can be seen as a very bright colored skies & a walkpath bridge over a neat pond that's not really pink but more so blue. So Techstep is darker DnB (remember the brief subgenre called Drumstep) and I guess Neurofunk is a very very specific type of techstep whether it's either seperated by vibe or how the drums and melodies are used, you tell me. For all I know is I have the following labeled - "Dubstep vs. DnB": - Drumstep vs. Dubstep Neurofunk at this point it's all a vibe sense thats' the easiest way to tell, because i'm not here calculating drum patterns next to my ant farm.
Neurofunk is generally dark too. Thing is techstep is practically dead subgenre of d&b since early 2000's and it was a precursor to neurofunk, which was called after its more melodic bassline that has a funky vibe to it. Great example of very first neurofunk tune is Ed Rush & Optical "Funktion". You can easily tell the difference by comparing this tune to anything from Ed Rush's "Torque" album which is a techstep classic. Basically, you can tell that neurofunk is the cleaner version of techstep because it use more smooth drum and synth samples, whereas techstep got more clinical atmosphere and raw processed drums as well as dirty reece basslines. It also got usually slower bpm than neurofunk - around 160-165.
yeah, but you cannot name the modern dark dnb neurofunk, it's nothing funky about it anymore. I think the modern output of Audio, EdRush&Op, KillBox, BSE, etc etc etc is utter shit...only noise noise noise. I would call neurofunk/techstep inspired for example the latest KidDramaxDLRxUlteriorMotive release Dredger/Unforgiving. Both sides are belters.
What you on about? The bassline switch up has nothing to do with hardware/software and everything to do with Ed Rush & Optical. Can't be done on a laptop? Me thinks you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
@R. M it's not really about what you use, as much as how you use it. you could give a moron some expensive synths and a novation bass station and it would come out like trash. granted, these basslines do sound heavy and 'organic', but don't miss out on all the experimentation that's going on nowadays.
That bass 4:26 🥶😭
Exactly. I mean come on ... they were taking the piss with this. Absolute masterpiece, alien funk step
👍's
bg?
modern neuro could never 🤧
Unmistakable sound of an Oxford oscar
These early Virus tracks are so sick. The bleak, industrial atmospheres, metallic tones, cold details -- absolutely vicious.
shits evil m8
Did you know virus stemmed from technical itch on moving shadow also I met optical at Brixton Jamm
@@francisokudu1733 Interesting!
I can't explain how good this is. They definitely don't make them like this anymore.
And Jonny l magnetic plus possibly pioneers with this sound ez rollers weekend world
Prototype source direct good labels too
I had this when it came out, sadly gone nowadays... 96-99 were great. DnB artists like these were creating alien soundscapes, not so much tunes with structure like a commercial song.
Didn't know medicine could be so sick
i see what you did there
Medicine for my Ear just right Now !
This was medicine, unlike that death jab we got now lol
hahha
They really set the tone of the label with this. Genre defining.
golden times of dnb
Can't argue with that
dnb golden era .... fakt :)
4:46 sickest drop ever its so massive and vicious.
Still one the best dnb tracks available 24 years later
Masterpiece for sure
I remember getting this in 96 i think? It was when they started working together , just fucking amazing and what i had been waiting for
this track is what got me hooked on the dnb back in the day. haunted space station vibes 🤘🏼
It feels so darker and hazardous.
This was special and still is. Back when Dnb was fresh and new
No offense mate but NO you cant make bassline like that with simply software! That sound that Optical use to get on his basslines was purely from Analog clipping his Sequential Circuits synth directly into his analog mixing console. Whether you disagree or not mate, anyone will back me up when I say you cant emulate analog clipping on software (not humanly possible!). So yea mate, I do know what Im talking about as Im obsessed with that sound!
Nothing, and i mean nothing, can EVER sound as good as the old analogue equipment. Digital has ruined everything.
Clamens Rosse Ok i shouldn't have said that. I just find analogue to be way better in terms of sound.
I always thought they were using Access Virus. Which is digital by the way.
What is obviously hard to mimic is analog distortion and non-linearities. I wouldn't say nowadays productions are worse though, rather the opposite. They're a lot louder and fatter. But, hey, each to his like. And, it has nothing to do with the actual music and composing.
This stuff and other stuff from the same era also are quite muddy when it comes to the bass. Much better and more "pro" sounding nowadays.
an experienced producer can use distortion in a way that would make you think it was analog. It's fun to bang on about how you can never recreate analog sounds but that's getting less and less true with current software.
Still to this day an absolute killer !!!
One of the craziest bass sounds I heard! Sikktight
Still one of my favourite 12' here. Record was in heavy use back than but survived somehow, lucky me! Optical is playing Cologne tonight, can't wait!
Had been hunting vinyl for about 4 years before this was released and how did it change my outlook ! pushed the boundaries and things changed to a twisted more intricate style . Wish I was having this blasted through a club soundsystem right now .
I've been to all the Virus nights at The Steelyard, and I'm looking forward to pt. 1 of Virus 25 tonight (30.09.2023) there! It's gonna be a banger. Immense line up!
Bought this on vinyl when it was first released...timeless classic.
Ed rush and optical are the ultimate Duo for an all night Halloween bash!!!!
Haha right?!!!!!
Got this when it came out. What a fucking banger! All about the 2nd drop! Looking forward to Virus 20 part 2 in December. It's gonna be a heavy night!
Glad to own on vinyl. That breakdown/drop
Bought this on vinyl back in the days and I still get the creeps after the breakdown. Geniuses at work!
Glad I still got the vinyl too!
Just amazing!! I can see why alot of labels back then would'nt have been on this level, probably due to the fact that no other producers were coming with beats this well produced & engineered! Its all about the breakdown into 2nd drop in my opinion!! The bassline switch up is just insane, something that cant be done on a laptop!! sorry kids, dont bother... its all about the hardware ;)
FULL ROUND OF APPLAUDES. GOD BLESS
Remember I drew ALL over this bout 6-7 years old when I 1st came round DNB & vinyl w JUST a pencil. Nothing too bad looking, but I’m still pissed that I did it. Years later, I decide to put the 2nd drop in a mix on my IG. I can’t actually understand for the life of me to like all the other remixes on this SPECIFIC original. The best executed original of a DNB tune ever imho
Massive tune!
SICK TUNE OH LORD OF MERCY
Honestly, the fact that software is used so much nowadays isn't directly responsible for the way music has shifted... it does have to do with the fact that you can so easily over-produce stuff to sound all shiny and synthetic, but there's really no requirement. If you've got the songwriting ability, it's not about what you use, but how you use it. You can make original sounds with practically anything. Granted, really sick analog synth sounds are pretty hard to replicate a lot of the time.
YesssssSsSSsss thank you!!!! This been on my mind for a looong time thanks for posting it
What A beat bRO
JUMP UP TO THIS :)
Just got this and about 200 a sorted tracks 70£, loads of promo only 😊 😊
Smashing it
This is timless!
BANGER!!!!
that breakdown! cant test!
Damn that Sequential with Optical. Something so raw and organic thats not covered up with tons of effects, like todays. Pure fun(k)
this beat is medicinal
that bassline and those dope little edits on the drums: this tune swings like a MOTHER fucker.
all day
Sick 🔥
You know it!
@@ShadowyFigure83Aye, in the head ftw.🔥
genius
A virus syndicate talk to frank bootleg mash up would be ideal
Wow 😘👍🥳
That bassline is just fucking sick
Clasicccc... nice
Deep dark and naaaaaaasty😉
2nd comment: Remember when kicks and snares were this ruff?? So much DnB today is too clean. Plastic fucking drums everywhere!
The modern Drum & Bass drums all sound so "Muted" & soulless. Hollow, empty, lacking of something important...
(not all of it obvoiusly. But over-all it sounds very much like the newer generation have gone soft) "Safespace Drum & Bass" lol.
I've got a DVD, regegade hardware, maybe, where one of the Cutting Room guys described Drum & Bass as "The New Punk" because of the energy, the anger, the ruff soundscapes ect"
That's what's been lost & watered down.
drum & bass caly czas ;)
word.
this is it.
REMMEMBER WHEN I BOUGHT IT IN SECTION 5 I THINK KINGS ROAD THEM YE
The two chords at 4:12 seems like sampled from bad companies Brainscan
Nice catch, although technically it would have to be the other way around.
This was written 2 years proir to the Inside the Machine LP.
@@ShadowyFigure83good point...the resemblance is striking tho... it's actually 3 notes with the 2nd note being subtle. Even the pitch is the same note, maybe a little off. Guess I'll never know for sure if the sample has a common origin :)
Sick to the bone... Love it.. mental shit...
People from this era of dnb just fucking know!!
Fuck helloween, this is proper.
💚
masssssiveeeèee
Techstep vs. Neurofunk?
Ed Rush & Optical are DnB. So, *that means Netsky is also DnB* right?
To me Netsky is the Liquid variant of DnB where it's very uplifting (specifically transcending) and can be seen as a very bright colored skies & a walkpath bridge over a neat pond that's not really pink but more so blue.
So Techstep is darker DnB (remember the brief subgenre called Drumstep) and I guess Neurofunk is a very very specific type of techstep whether it's either seperated by vibe or how the drums and melodies are used, you tell me.
For all I know is I have the following labeled - "Dubstep vs. DnB":
- Drumstep vs. Dubstep Neurofunk
at this point it's all a vibe sense thats' the easiest way to tell, because i'm not here calculating drum patterns next to my ant farm.
Neurofunk is generally dark too. Thing is techstep is practically dead subgenre of d&b since early 2000's and it was a precursor to neurofunk, which was called after its more melodic bassline that has a funky vibe to it. Great example of very first neurofunk tune is Ed Rush & Optical "Funktion". You can easily tell the difference by comparing this tune to anything from Ed Rush's "Torque" album which is a techstep classic.
Basically, you can tell that neurofunk is the cleaner version of techstep because it use more smooth drum and synth samples, whereas techstep got more clinical atmosphere and raw processed drums as well as dirty reece basslines. It also got usually slower bpm than neurofunk - around 160-165.
yeah, but you cannot name the modern dark dnb neurofunk, it's nothing funky about it anymore. I think the modern output of Audio, EdRush&Op, KillBox, BSE, etc etc etc is utter shit...only noise noise noise. I would call neurofunk/techstep inspired for example the latest KidDramaxDLRxUlteriorMotive release Dredger/Unforgiving. Both sides are belters.
4.30 am ,no complaints so Far...……..
Perfect Halloween music
This...is dnb
there were alot of good producers back then virus was on another level because they fucking made this style fucking originators
Uuuuh..nice.
Looks like 7 people need a hearing test.
d and b appreciation society est 2009
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What makes you think this ?
ed rush the r.head of dnb anyone agree??
Do like the original but not a patch on the matrix remix that became more famous.
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GROWLER.
What you on about? The bassline switch up has nothing to do with hardware/software and everything to do with Ed Rush & Optical. Can't be done on a laptop? Me thinks you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
@R. M it's not really about what you use, as much as how you use it. you could give a moron some expensive synths and a novation bass station and it would come out like trash. granted, these basslines do sound heavy and 'organic', but don't miss out on all the experimentation that's going on nowadays.
takes a bit longer to get that sound on a laptop but u can do it. but takes longer to program/ make a full track with hardware.
so true tho. these guys are beasts u give them anythin theyll make a banger
Try Alien Girl aswell ☢️
Not neurofunk... Techstep ! :D
Kant thynk of a better Dee Jay......the chem bros are good 2
Half life 2 vibes.
Disgusting
this isin't ed rush it's one of the BSE tracks
huj Really? Black Sun Empire? Nah mate, this is Ed Rush and Optical. 100%.
😁😁😁😁😁😁
@Splat Splat Girl! wow that's a little harsh BSE and Ed Rush & Optical both godlike
@Splat Splat Girl! BSE were also sick back in the day. B'Negative is still a monster of a tune.
No it’s not fuck off