My Channel Orange Review Was Rough
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ค. 2022
- Looking back on my review of Frank Ocean's debut album after 10 years.
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If fantano disagrees with fantano I don’t know who to believe in
idk yourself.
I believec Fantano
If even fantano disagrees with fantano, the-the-then that means the Twitter mob is right...How far we have fallen...
Just because he doesn't believe in himself, doesn't mean you have to stop believing in you
This guy has a different taste in music to me so idk
It's time to admit that almost every review from 2010 to 2012 is kinda rough, melon
@Gibran Camus sorry for being a foreign
@Gibran Camus nobody asked professor
I mean, he kinda go it right with danny brown-xxx and asap rocky's-Live love asap, but yea that time period was rough for his review
Especially MBDTF
I would say his metrics for what makes an album good and overall perspectives have changed a lot over the years
I'm kinda shocked that you said "I used to hate the song Super Rich Kids, but now that I've made billions off of TH-cam, I get where he's coming from. And I gotta say, fuck the poor."
lol, this is a rare one of these joke formats that made me laugh.
Since when was this review controversial? It has zero dislikes for crying out loud!
@@kaboost1528 of course they’re joking lol
Ahh, the dislike button. I remember when you could press it and see the number go up. Good times.
Hilarious and original
Maimi 👀
@@i_teleported_bread7404 I still do it and imagine what the number could be.. oh the good old days
I prefer Blonde but Pyramids is arguably Frank's best song. Channel Orange has more going for it than just that song anyway so it deserves the shine.
u and the other guy have the same pfp xD I thought u were sayin fax to your self lol
Endless is my favorite
Self Control and Solo are my favourites, but man, Is pyramids fucking fantastic!
At least you didn’t say “Nights”
@@lastEvergreen hello fellow Endless enjoyer genius
Ok but can we talk about how melon still looks almost the same after 10 years. He definitely sacrificed his hair to get a sip of the youth fountain
black don’t crack!
Worth
Vegan+chronically inside+straight edge
@@ando2421 second blackest person next to videogamedunkey
I’d sacrifice hair for youth lol
After ten long years, I can finally love this album. Thank you, Anthony.
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A nice touch that this video is exactly 9:53, the length of Pyramids. Well done Melon.
My number 1 problem with this review is that i don't think it justifies the 10 minute length. Nowhere is this video more interesting than the introduction and the very first pitchfork cutaway
Why don't I ever pay attention
I clicked it
I'm so fucking stupid
Black midi reference
@@cd-rom5717 okay, nice. Was confused why this has so many likes. But I've piled into it after getting much later into the vid
@@Ilovefent I just knew someone would point it out
Never clicked so fast. Easily top 3 most controversial album reviews you’ve ever done. Glad you decided to come back to it, Melon
MBDTF and swimming other 2?
care for me? yeezus? swimming? mbdtf?
@@Buttershooter MBDTF, Channel Orange, Swimming, House of Balloons, Forest Hills Drive are some at the top as the most widely disliked reviews. Personally, the last 2 Tame Impala reviews drove me just as crazy as this one lol
@@justinurbealis6234 I agree with you on Currents, but The Slow Rush still doesn’t do it for me despite loving a few tracks.
But I feel the same about Sleigh Bells’ “Treats”. That album still bangs to this day and definitely didn’t deserve the 2 he gave it. Also that album predicted the 100 gecs/Dorian Electra strain of hyperpop half a decade before Sophie and PC Music pretty much launched the genre, and I know Fantano loves those artists. I’m pretty sure he said he might revisit it given the context.
All 3 times he gave MBDTF a 6 are his 3 most controversial reviews
Fantano has aged like fine wine! Handsomer by the day
except the teeth :/
Ngl, now it kinda shows how much he aged over the years. When it comes to his face since the camera quality changed
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@@gomlekadam what? he looks almost exactly the same. only thing that changed was voice/facial hair. ur trippin
It’s the thighs 😏😏😫
I love Blonde but CO is the project I revisit the most. Lot of memories tied up with this one. I love the impressionistic lyrics, the rawness of the vocals and something that doesn’t get mentioned enough is Malay’s production. There’s a beautiful balance of acoustic and synthetic elements. It’s recorded and mixed just well enough to not be Lo-fi but it’s not overproduced either. The vocals in particular are often super dry and really give space for Frank to just sing his heart out and tell stories. The structures are atypical and given where Frank was at in the industry he could’ve really tried doing something more commercial but instead he decided to drop this series on vignettes on us and just make a classic basically. I could go on and on I love this damn project man haha
Pyramids is still one of the most advance songs I've heard in a while. Aged like Wine and still sounds it could've been released today it'll be still a hit.
I truly believe ‘Pyramids’ is one of the Greatest Songs of the Century.
It’s the ‘Stairway To Heaven’ of the modern generation.
Just the mere fact that he was even willing to make the song-is unbelievable.
How many ‘Popular’ Artists would think of making a 10-minute, multi-part, allegorical Odyssey-that morphs Ancient Egyptian Mythology-into a modern day Tragedy about a woman and her pimp… ?
Frank Ocean is a goddamn superhero.
It’s a shame to see how many people on here-are criticizing the song.
Then again, that’s the way it is with virtually all of the Greatest Art.
i never disagree with fantano, i'll just agree with him more in 10 years
I like how there’s this comment in a video about how much he disagrees with his opinion from 10 years ago
Oh yeah well how much would you have decayed in 10 years huh?
Gottem
Bad Religion is top five best Frank Ocean songs, along with Pyramids, John Mayer’s guitar solo at the end? It’s like you’re floating in the clouds in the night sky.
taxi driver be my shrink for the hour
Mayeronguitar
@@uniquebloxxer7520 immediate goosebumps
Pink Matter too
He could've just called this Cringing with Anthony
Genius
Cringing with Myself
I've gone back and forth on this and Blonde and I have to say that I prefer Blonde. It just communicates such a broad range of emotions. The range on channel orange is more narrow.
This might sound like a joke but Channel Orange literally feels orange alot of the time but Blonde has the full color spectrum
The perfect summer album vs. the perfect album to look back at that summer
Impressive how someone can have that range of emotions in 2 projects
Blonde is a legendary album
@@MapleMilk yea this summer outside channel orange has been in rotation more but year round its def blonde
@@MapleMilk thats the power of album covers I experience same things
Dissect on Spotify does an in depth review of blonde and it’s amazing how complex it is
Yeah Anthony I agree, this “theneedledrop” guy totally missed the mark with this review
This album still holds up 10 years later.
Is that supposed to mean something? Good albums live on.
@@shootinputin6332 that... its a good album?
@@MrMaharkus his statement seems to indicate that a good album can age badly, i am disagreeing with that statement.
@@shootinputin6332 You honestly believe all art ages the same way? Bless your little heart
@@shootinputin6332 as an independent, objective third party: no, his statement does not indicate that. You come off as a clown who is simply looking to belittle others.
Real shit we need more redux reviews
You didn’t have to double down while calling them sonically bankrupt Anthony
is that sega?
And yelling the n word half way through was uncalled for
original
@@brokeboi27 he did actually do that though
Who's them?
I strongly feel like you should do a redux on this album because of how beautifully it has aged with the common themes of love, people, trust, and friendship. I've found out about this album about a year ago and the messages and themes it csn relate to stuck to me ever since.
classic teenagers
i hope he does a redux of ctrl too i know that record grew on him already the year it came out after his review and id be curious to hear his thoughts now
@@prandz420 so what? It's still a great album nevertheless
NickThePringle it was just a very teenager thing to say about the album
@@Sonimod what you said was right but you should still come back to this comment when you're older to see what we see lol
Going to date myself here but this takes me back to late 2011 when I was in high school. First video on this channel I watched was Mr. Teeth's Goblin review, ill never forget as it was days after Skyrim dropped and I watched while playing the first time. Cheers to you Anthony, thanks for all the music you've helped me discover down the years.
Wdym Skyrim just came out
@@ufoparty9108 Hahahahahashshahaha
@@ufoparty9108 The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, released 11th November 2011.
Are you implying that revealing this information makes you seem old? Cute.
Bro same lol such a specific memory damn
Yeah it's a great album, glad you revisited it. Pyramids and Pink matter are top tier Frank Ocean songs. Hopefully you do Yeezus next. Nice video!
he was absolutely on point with yeezus so I'm pretty sure you'll be disappointed with his re-visit.
@@Mitch-Cumstein I'd be happy with Carrie and Lowell revisited, I think that one grew on him
@@Mitch-Cumstein And Currents by Tame Impala
Majin Buuu-uuu-oh
Yeezus is mediocre asf
I don’t know if it’s just me but i find modern day fantano a lot less annoying and more likable. He definitely learned how to hold your horses
Ironically enough, literally like 3 days ago I was chilling and decided to put on the entirety of channel orange and loved it just as much as I loved it on first listen
That's not ironic, it's a coincidence
@@endritiger it's neither.
@@tumultuousv I thought he meant it was ironic that he relistened it right before this review came out. That's a coincidence, but you're right
@@endritiger why does it matter
@@carnifex423 because now people say something is ironic when it’s actually a coincidence. The same way people mix generally and genuinely
Let's be real: a lot of your reviews were rough around that time and it's ok, even though you already had a following, you were still coming into your own, probably not just as a professional music critic but as an individual as well.
I remember screaming at you they the computer 10 years ago about this review. I feel so vindicated
Yeah I screamed at my screen too I can’t believe he said in this video and the review “Chanel is inferior to having a money store so Frank ocean is an idiot” that had nothing to do with the music ?!?!
No BS, very big of you to admit your change of heart. That's mature of you
You know Anthony, I don't know how what Hivemind Graydon did on October 8 1998 is related in any way, but a nice video nonetheless.
crossover comment
i thought that was dignan
who's graydon? dignan and riley are on that show
I remember watching this around when it came out. Never really listened to much hip hop and rnb at the time and this album and your review really opened my mind to a world of music that I was missing out on. Can't believe it's been 10 years
I have loyalty to The Needle Drop because of Anthony’s engagement with the fans at this time(2010-2012). I remember interacting with Anthony back then he was always respectful whether we agreed or not.
This is growth. Would love to see more reviews like this.
I think Anthony's reviewing skills have evolved so much, that's why re-reviews of Channel Orange and Plastic Beach are so fascinating. He's a different reviewer now.
A large majority of my music has always been metal/punk but Channel Orange has got to be one of my favorite albums of that decade. Still holds up brilliantly.
Orange is a classic...I ididnt understand it after a few listens but living life made this album prove vividly true. Aged like fine wine.
Oh shit! I’ve always held a grudge with you regarding Frank Ocean because I remembered somewhere you saying that Frank doesn’t have strong vocals. I couldn’t remember where I heard you say it, but obviously it was in the Channel Orange review. One of the dumbest things you’ve ever said. He has a fantastic voice.
I do prefer Blonde, but it's honestly a lot closer than you'd think. I think CO excelled in showing Frank's range as a songwriter. Every song feels like a totally different avenue, either musically or through a unique vibe or interesting perspective. Its a very consistently great album with a lot of pop and crossover appeal but it still has a fair amount of depth, Pyramids being the obvious standout, but there's a lot going on with songs like Pink Matter too. I always had a fondness for Crack Rock and Pilot Jones, but I could see almost any song being someone's favorite.
I think CO showed how talented of a songwriter Frank is, and having such a huge range made Blonde deciding to go so much deeper and more personal hit even better.
nobody cares
How do you get into blone every time I try to listen I just never like it but I love channel orange like one of my favourite albums ever. How do I get into Blonde is there a song on it to get me hooked ?
@@al-ameenkudehinbu8067 You're a foreigner, stop trying to force understand things that weren't meant for you.
@@al-ameenkudehinbu8067 my favorites are Ivy (a perfect, simple tune about falling in love and trying to hold on to it as the feeling eventually fades), Siegfried (incredibly sad song), Self Control is just a good R&B song, Nights is basically Blonde's version of Pyramids (though admittedly doesnt hit quite as high, but that's a super high bar to meet), Pink + White is just a beautiful sounding song (definitely one of the best), Andre 3000 absolutely destroys on Solo (Reprise) and Solo itself is pretty good. White Ferrari is another absolute classic Frank song. Pretty Sweet has grown on me a lot over the years but it's probably not the best starting spot, but it's a cool ride.
I think Blonde works better as a full album though, tbh. When it first dropped, it took me like 2 listens for it to actually click, but now it's impossible to ignore how great it is. That's part of why I think CO is so good, because you really can listen to any song at any time and they're all great individually. Blonde has more flow to it and is better as a whole piece I think.
@@al-ameenkudehinbu8067get a heartbreak around summer and you’ll feel it😭😭and it was hittin hard ibdidnt like it at first but you’ll understand the beauty
I’ve always thought this review should have gotten more flak than MBDTF.
Kanye fans are rabid, and *I'm* a Kanye fan
The house of balloons review deserves even more flak than this.
When this album dropped none of the stores near me carried it, I had to go to Best Buy during my lunch break to get the one copy they had. Stayed in my car for a long time and I dig this album so much.
2:55 it wasnt just Frank and Weeknd making the alt R&B splash at the time.... this Miguel erasure and underrating is crazy. Kaleidoscope Dream came out that year and was a great album. Adorn was a massive hit too.
Respect for being able to take an honest look at your old stuff.
Kudos.
While Blonde is more abstract and ultimately more satisfying, Channel Orange is still a great album and a lot of the time is more densely and more impressively written.
I really never liked Blonde. 3 good tracks that I come back to every now and then. Channel orange, however, is in my top 10 non hip hop albums of all time.
@@NL-fg6it ngl this take is awful
@@NL-fg6it I agree with you. Never even finished listening to blonde
@@bamffatboi5526 if u didn't finish it, how u know if the album is good or not😭😭😭
@@travistchokotieu7915 bruh, the vibes were off, it was ass
I’ve been waiting for you to address this, but you didn’t have to say The Melodic Blue is the best album with a color in its title and call Frank’s album Channel Borange
Weeezer blue 🤪🤪🤪🤪
cringe
I would definitely like to see this as a series. Where you go back through albums where you didn’t fully like or completely understand the project but now you’ve gotten to understand that artist or band a little bit better
Honestly would’ve liked to see a proper redux review on this one, but still love that you at least talked about it
you have just hit content gold with this video. please revisit more old reviews.
Earl is worth a mention there too for the tops of Odd Future.
John Mayer feature is underrated and clean asf
Been watching you since the Goblin review came out. Your taste In music definitely started to become more fluid around 2016-2017. You gave me growing out of the lyrical miracle vibes
If it was called The Money Store you would’ve given it a 10.
frank ocean should have called himself frank grips
If Frank changes his name to Freddie Ocean for his next project, he’ll easily get a 10.
This format isn’t funny
@@glitch_wurld I chuckled, mr. Depressed
@@glitch_wurld deez nuts are funny
seems like anthony has created the greatest content cycle ever.
review album, review the review
Reflection is valuable, appreciate you doing it and letting us watch broski
I saw people talk about this. I didn't think you'd actually look back. That's something I respect about you Melon. You keep yourself level headed.
Really excited too see you back to it. To me this album is still a classic (do prefer blonde though)
I think it's stupid to rate singing ability purely based on technical ability. Frank may not have the range or vocal flexibility of the Weeknd or Chris Brown for super showoff vocal runs - corny bullshit - but he has a tonality, phrasing and emotive quality that easily makes him the best R&B vocalist of this generation.
I bet almost ever Frank fan fell for his voice first...
Nah you just like his voice better 😂😂 In no universe Frank has a better voice than The Weeknd and Chris. And how tf is showing off your vocal range corny?😂😂😂
@@yusifvaliyev9748 People who enjoy music with deeper themes and messages than "LOOK HOW TALENTED I AM" will forever see the latter kind of music as inherently corny because they just want music that actually makes them feel something, rather than something designed to impress or wow. Like cool, you can sing, but if you can't make me feel something besides boredom, then what good are you really
really dont see how frank has a better voice than the weeknd. hes a great singer but the weeknd is just incredible imo; modern day MJ fr
@@verbatim7508 That is an entirely different convo. The guy above said that Frans is easily “the best vocalist of this generation” even though he can’t do half of what The Weeknd and Chris Brown can do. But no if you want to talk about songwriting that is a different topic. Call him the best R&B songwriter, not the best R&B vocalist (even though The Weeknd is still more interesting lyrically than Frank)
happy to see you admit that you didn't really gave this album a proper review, might be because of the time but it's still cool to see you return and comment on such a classic like this and seeing how it has aged
love these kind of really genuinely honest reflections!!
Still cannot believe Fantano thought Frank had one of the weakest voices in R&B. One listen to Bad Religion should really leave you with no doubt he is one of the best
the main reason this review is rough is because anthony did not hope I’m doing well in the intro :(
I don't know if it will be possible because for sure Melon will be quite busy, but I think that after these 10 years it would be interesting to see a review of channel orange, with all the big context plus a fresh perspective where you can better appreciate the album, probably the redux review could be much broader
I wouldn't mind if it was a 7 or an 8, I still think his words could be better explained after all this years
Can’t wait for re-review of this re-review
I loved Channel Orange so much when it came out and lived with it throughout the start of a new relationship, but I just don’t feel like it has the same lasting power as Blonde. I rarely go back to Channel Orange to listen to because I feel like I got everything I could get from it already, but Blonde can always make me feel something in a variety of contexts
Frank Ocean is D’Angelo for zoomers. Both are legendary r&b and soul musicians. Both dropped 2 amazing, commercially successful yet critically acclaimed albums and then stopped releasing music for years. I just hope Frank doesn’t take 14 years to drop his 3rd album like D’Angelo did
Channel Orange was released 2012, how is Frank for zoomers?
@@user-iz1ii1xd6n bruh 2012 is still zoomer, you know that the oldest zoomers were born in the early 2000s, right?
@@gcwens yeah because 12 year olds are listening to channel orange. Get real
@@jeremym4551 i guess you could say that frank's audience is composed of young millenials
@@jeremym4551 wtf zoomers love frank. all kids my age even fucking listen to is frank ocean, steve lacy, and post wolf tyler lol
Would absolutely love to see you do something like this with your swimming review
now you NEED to talk about your salem - king night review
It's so nostalgic seeing you talk about these reviews now , I remember watching this as a kid and being surprised how you missed the point of some of the songs. But it's super cool how much better you've gotten at these reviews since then .
Better at these reviews as in , being able to articulate your thoughts .
Man my ex loved Forest Gump. A lot of Frank Ocean songs hold a special place in my heart to be honest
not as early but my first melon review was I think the sunbather one which reminds me how far the channel has come since then!
Pilot Jones grew on me so much as well, one of my favourite Tracks
They say Fantano's heart grew three sizes today.
why does him watching himself and reflecting on how he's changed feel so wholesome
You should do a second review for albums upon letting them marinate for a years plus time, what an intriguing video
Damn this was the review I got intro’d to Fantano. Love ya Melon.
he's subscribed to himself.
i love blonde and channel orange. i just find myself listening to channel orange far more frequently. i listened to blonde heavily when i was Going Through It™️. 😅
This was amazing, I hope we get more 🇩🇴🙌🏾🇵🇷
Young Fantano sounded like Jon from ARTV
Watching these old Fantano videos gives some real nostalgia from an era that a good amount of us that we yearn for to go back to
Please do more melon
Absolutely wild that Fantano has maintained the exact same stage of hair-loss for over a decade now.
another record you need to re-review is MOTM II. That album is definitely not a 6 and has aged extremely well
This is a great video. It shows how much our minds can change. It's amazing to realize how much you in the past overlooked or just didn't see. (General you) . To me it is one of the greatest lessons to learn in life and leads to empathy and greater respect for others' perspectives that you very well may just not yet understand.
Also it shows to certain people who maybe thought otherwise that your reviews are meant to be subjective and are not meant to pass any sort of final judgment. It shows that you (being human) have surely changed your mind on plenty of records.
Everyone's taste in music is a result of their own unique point of view which is a result of their own unqiue experiences that they don't share with anyone else. Your reviews are not meant to say what the album should mean to anyone else, and I think a lot of people in your audience don't get that. If some of your copycatiest fans realized that it's inevitable and sensible that their opinion will differ, sometimes wildly, from yours then the idea that your mind changes over time would come very naturally to them, because they would be enabling themselves to allow andor recognize the same thing in their own lives.
Next year I’d LOVE for you to revisit Because The Internet
Channel Orange is a classic, definitely my favorite from Frank
Monks>>>>> My favorite song from Frank Ocean. This is one of my favorite albums of all time and I tend to argue with my friend whether this or Blonde is his best work lol. I guess this album just hits for me differently than Blonde ever has…. So far.
Blonde is better in every way , by a large margin. Just my opinion though.
@@Signal_in_the_noiseno one cares
This was my biggest gripe with you over the years Fantano, thank you for addressing it. Now do Born this Way and we will be all good.
Can't wait for this to get a light 8 in the redux
im convinced that melon just doesnt age at this point
Now do “My Fetch the Bolt Cutter Review Was Rough”
Review reviews - my favorite type of content
Still waiting for that Lil Ugly Mane’s „Oblivion Access” re-review, melonboy
“is there an MC out there right now better equipped to rap about love?? no.🤓”
Still love this album.
this might be my fav r&b album of the 2010s
need more fantano reviews fantano pls
Nice too see that Anthony is subscribed to himself
Anthony's really just gonna leave autoplay on like that isn't he
I like this maturity. Shows your growth. I love it
I genuinely love every song on channel orange. It was my introduction to franklin himself and the first frank song I heard was super rich kids
If Frank Ocean named his album Channel Melon, you would’ve initially given it a 10.
boring and overdone. get a better joke
corny ass joke
@@biggrocc19 boring and overdone. Melon a better joke.
Anthony’s nickname is “melon”, therefore the joke is funny, and I am currently laughing uproariously.
I always saw Super Rich Kids as Frank and Earl commenting on the common rich posture of being better than. It was them showing what actually happens in rich homes. Earl had the perfect dejected and disinterested delivery.
Crazy I remember watching this when it come out.
Looking forward to your review of this review in 10 years.