I’ve never been very attracted to skeleton styles, but the Resonance movement is fascinating, love the pendulum concept. The small dials give enough traditional look married with the beautiful and mesmerizing movement.
I can't see that this watch is a true resonance set up if the balance wheels share a clutch spring. Both movements must be fully separate for resonance to have an effect.
Improved stability or signal from the balance is the narrative, but where is the data establishing benefit? I have yet to see any watch channel or manufacturer present hard data in support of any benefit to precision or accuracy. Without that hard data it is simply an impressively ornate demonstration of a phenomenon within a watch case. If the observatory trials were to return for mechanical movements, would implementing a resonant movement be a differentiator in taking top places?
The definition of resonance at the beginning is just wrong. Resonance occurs, when you periodically excite an oscillator with its own characteristic frequency.
Sorry, but you're not correct: you are actually describing an external cyclic excitation. Resonance is indeed the interaction between two physical systems (usually, but not always, an object and a force. in this case it's two physical objects: the two balance wheels) at a specific frequency with a significantly higher output amplitude (orders of magnitude higher) than both systems have separately. The key here is getting a greater amplitude than what you put in, which helps maintain the cyclic movement as stable as possible (and as a consequence, maintain the accuracy of the watch)
Jon Mainhagu To be fair: You are completely right. I was actually only describing a special case of resonance and I could not have described the general case any better than you. So I take my hat off to you! BUT: The definition Mr Greisler gave is still just too vague to be valid (at least not in this universe). Two bodies can influence each other in all kinds of ways, so his definition has nothing to do with oscillations or resonance in particular.
you are 100% correct! I also though the explanation for the physical phenomenon is way too vague to be considered accurate. I did enjoy this video, though. As the other comment noted, it is harder to be precise in a second (or third) language. My hat's off to you for giving such a reasoned and balanced reply! TH-cam CAN be a place for constructive exchanges... or maybe it's only on theWATCHES.tv :-)
Jon Mainhagu could you please explain the term 'amplitude' in layman's terms as I have no understanding of physics whatsoever. Also, you mentioned 'object and force' - can you add another example of this scenario for the poor layman? Thanks!
so someone in the last stage of development, raised their hand and said,, "ya know,, it looks great, but we need a big buck tooth at six o'clock". that'll make it perfect.
Armin Strom is one of my favorite watchbrands.
I love their technical look and their innovative movements.
Must say that I am very impressed by what they do and how they do it!
TheWATCHES.tv definately.
They do their own thing
It is lovely to see such innovations in place. It would be an improvement to society if these were available to the masses.
Quantities produced are so small that it makes it really complicated to reproduce it at lower costs. thanks for your comment
i have to say i love the way the moovement beats, it makes th watch feel more organic
Beautiful movement!!!
Your Channel's content is amazing Marc André, Thanks !
That's super nice of you, thanks SOOOOO much!!!
Great and deeply detailed video! Thanks for sharing! Would welcome more from these kinds :)
Well noted ;) All the very best to you
Awesome 👏 Thanks 🙏 for exploring & explaining the complications. Please continue to provide us such educational & interesting videos
Will do and thanks a lot for your comment!
Lovely to see the mechanism on the dial side. Small brand but beautiful timepieces..😘 keep up the nice work watchesTV. Keep 'em coming
Count on us!
Amazing work these guys are doing. Thanks for sharing Marc!
Happy you liked it!
I’ve never been very attracted to skeleton styles, but the Resonance movement is fascinating, love the pendulum concept. The small dials give enough traditional look married with the beautiful and mesmerizing movement.
Interesting approach, it would be great with a date though
Very cool, cheers 👍👍
Very welcome, thanks a lot!
great video as always lots of information by the way can't wait to see my name in the special thanks column lol :-):-)
I can't see that this watch is a true resonance set up if the balance wheels share a clutch spring. Both movements must be fully separate for resonance to have an effect.
Very cool Marc Hmm.wonder what Patek..and Hmmm let’s say Breitling would come up with if Kern go far that way..No Doubts about Stern Family..
Cheers
Improved stability or signal from the balance is the narrative, but where is the data establishing benefit? I have yet to see any watch channel or manufacturer present hard data in support of any benefit to precision or accuracy. Without that hard data it is simply an impressively ornate demonstration of a phenomenon within a watch case. If the observatory trials were to return for mechanical movements, would implementing a resonant movement be a differentiator in taking top places?
The definition of resonance at the beginning is just wrong.
Resonance occurs, when you periodically excite an oscillator with its own characteristic frequency.
Sorry, but you're not correct: you are actually describing an external cyclic excitation. Resonance is indeed the interaction between two physical systems (usually, but not always, an object and a force. in this case it's two physical objects: the two balance wheels) at a specific frequency with a significantly higher output amplitude (orders of magnitude higher) than both systems have separately. The key here is getting a greater amplitude than what you put in, which helps maintain the cyclic movement as stable as possible (and as a consequence, maintain the accuracy of the watch)
Jon Mainhagu
To be fair: You are completely right. I was actually only describing a special case of resonance and I could not have described the general case any better than you. So I take my hat off to you!
BUT: The definition Mr Greisler gave is still just too vague to be valid (at least not in this universe). Two bodies can influence each other in all kinds of ways, so his definition has nothing to do with oscillations or resonance in particular.
you are 100% correct! I also though the explanation for the physical phenomenon is way too vague to be considered accurate. I did enjoy this video, though. As the other comment noted, it is harder to be precise in a second (or third) language. My hat's off to you for giving such a reasoned and balanced reply! TH-cam CAN be a place for constructive exchanges... or maybe it's only on theWATCHES.tv :-)
Jon Mainhagu could you please explain the term 'amplitude' in layman's terms as I have no understanding of physics whatsoever. Also, you mentioned 'object and force' - can you add another example of this scenario for the poor layman? Thanks!
I absolutely loved this very insightful and constructive exchange, thanks so much!!!!! Have a great day
Is the clutch spring made of titanium? I'd imagine as the fatigue cycles are inf. Love to see my namesake (Strom) doing this work.
Elegantly different. If I was wearing this watch, I'd probably be asking people if they want to know what the time is. hehe
Tommy Rin I know exactly what you mean
Haha, nicely said!
so someone in the last stage of development, raised their hand and said,, "ya know,, it looks great, but we need a big buck tooth at six o'clock". that'll make it perfect.
Yes, I think that odd as well and more than a bit distracting. Otherwise, beautiful and I’m not normally a fan of skeletonized watches.
@5:59 wow what a sight!
how is the frequency secret? 😅 it’s pretty easy to figure it out with a working movement. (or is it?🤔)
I'd say that too, you can see if it beats 5 or 7 or more times a second :D
You're right and if you want to find out won't be too complicated to assess ;)
What is the "reasonable" price of this watch?
Gotta love watches where you can see the guts
i thought it said renaissance lol
I need armin strom to contact me. I have a concept watch using this movement that will change the watch world
Marketing bullshit. Rolex is gonna be a much accurate and reliable watch then any of those resonance BS.
The two are really not comparable though... Best to you