I Messed Up BADLY In Front of 5,000 People
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ส.ค. 2024
- Video Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
00:38 - Backstory of This Gig
02:41 - Guitar Solos (nothing wrong yet…)
03:49 - My Screw Up in Front of 5,000 People
08:50 - Coping with Mistakes On Stage
12:05 - Tips for Sitting in With a Band
13:40 - Outro
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One thing I wanted to clarify: when JJ confirmed we were sitting in and told us the key/progression of the song, it was literally seconds before they went on stage for their set, because I hadn’t had a chance to talk to him until then. He was busy, a lot was going on, and like I said in the video, I don’t blame him at all for forgetting about that key change until it was about to happen.
Also, I truly appreciate all of the reassuring comments. I realized while listening back to the “mess up” moment that it didn’t sound completely terrible, and regardless I had already made peace with it before I made this youtube video. Still, that doesn’t take away the fact that I was absolutely horrified at my mistake when I first realized what happened, and that it took some time/reflection to stop beating myself up about it, which I think we can all relate to. So I’m good everybody, already laughing about it and will for years to come 😂
The best possible reaction you can have. And learning from it of course
You playing in the wrong key sounds better than me playing in the right key.
exactly what I was thinking!
Work on that 🤨😉
Ditto
🤣🤣
Isn’t it called jazz?
99% of the audience did not realize it. That's the beauty of music.
They don’t really care. Things happen fast at concerts and listeners move with them.
Mt brother, you simply played jazz😂
Yeah, brother, it didn’t sound too out of place. I thought, “hey, that’s jazzy!”
I guarantee you it was only you, maybe half of the band and 5 guitar nerds in the crowd that realised it. Keep on being the great inspiration you are!
EXACTLY!
Well, I am a visual guitar nerd audience member so I would have noticed you were playing in the wrong key - visually, and this video is a great idea, but I wish you could make it deliver by boosting the rest of the band while you solo. That would be fun.
Dylan, I promise you, it still sounded amazing and 98.5% of the audience had zero clue you were in the wrong key. Don't beat yourself up over something that happens to every player on the regular. At the end of the day, the solo sounded typical awesome Dylan.
Hey D, I love this video. Seeing your real time reaction is crazy. I was on that stage and the only reason why I knew they modulated was I looked over at their guitar player and he was in D and I’m like what! You were out front with really no way of knowing. It really doesn’t sound that bad all in all still a great video.
yep
The joys of youtube. You can barely hear anything but your guitar and drums. No mistake noticed.
Personally I love going to shows and hearing the artists make mistakes. Not because it makes me laugh at them or look down on them, but because it makes me feel better about when I make a mistake at a show. Reminds me that everyone makes mistakes sometimes, no matter who it is.
Really appreciate your willingness to shine a light on your own mistakes. You were in a tough situation, but I'm grateful we can all learn from it. I think your advice was spot on. Thank you!
And the audience did not know the difference, go for it.
Often what we fear is an illusion we’ve created in our head… you’re a huge inspiration to me and many others and one moment never defines a person. And yes to echo what others have said: I’ve been playing for 22 years and I wouldn’t have never sat back and said “he’s out of key” and that’s because you didn’t miss anything in all reality. It just didn’t sound how YOU wanted it to sound and I know that feeling all too well. But you’re a killer player and your transparency and courage to share this video is another reason why you’re one of the best out there.
Oh man, I was getting anxiety waiting for you to play the video but yeah, I bet you most of the audience didn’t even notice .
I'm an intermediate player with no experience on stage with a band but I can tell you that only experienced players would notice. One of my instructors told me if I made a mistake be sure to repeat it, and it will be perceived as done on purpose.
So this weekend just gone I had a festival. 40 minutes of originals. Final song of the set, we started the song and it just didn't feel right. I'd had a similar issue the year before so I stopped the song and tried to restart it. It still went 100% wrong, we tried and tried to get through the song but the whole thing fell apart. I was devastated. So I asked how long we had left, we had 4 minutes, so I quickly told the band we were going to play "Everlong" to finish the set and we smashed it. I've made MANY mistakes during my time on stage but this was one of the worst experiences of my music career with the entire song just falling apart. Lesson learnt, keep pushing on and always finish on a high!
People in the audience are on your side. How you handle a mistake is more important than the mistake. Always ignore mistakes and soldier on.
Super relatable as someone who's only been gigging a couple years and often gets in his head about a mistake here and there. Thanks for sharing your experience.
To us in the crowd (or a dude on TH-cam), I wouldn’t even have noticed. Even with you pointing it out, I just hear you shredding the sh!t out of it. 🤘🏻
One piece of advice I got many years ago was to remember that most of the audience is amazed that you have the courage to be on stage in the first place, and even if they do notice your mistakes, they'll afford you a lot of grace just for being up there.
Thanks Dylan. As a longtime performing musician I find this a brave and important video! BTW..what bugs me is when the bass players loses his place or whatever, listeners just know that SOMETHING sounds off, and assume it's the guitarist 💙
Thanks for this helpful and encouraging content for aspiring performers. I think the many responses that say they didn't even notice the difference also speaks to the value of having great timing, and the importance of that relative to note choice. I just subscribed and am looking forward to watching your other videos! Keep on rockin' 🤘
to me it didn't even sound that wrong
Dominant chords are more forgiving…c7 and d7 kinda gets u into the whole tone scale 🤷♂️
I understand your feelings. Making this video shows your modesty. I struggle with mistakes, and playing limitations on stage. Its a hard thing to get over sometimes. I'm getting better at it. Thanks for discussing the topic. To echo another comment. You playing a full tone out, still sounds better than i can, in the correct key. Love your channel.
Dude, you’re a major talent it happens. You’ve shown up with a pretty amazing voice on the instrument and we all recognize that and appreciate it. Keep going, brother.
I’m sure there’s a Mode that covers all the notes you played! It still sounded great, so if all else fails you can always count on great tone!
That's what I was thinking. Lydian, maybe.
live and learn . I love your playing mate
I did the same with an intro on a song once. It was only in front of about 300 people, but still was awkward. I learned the intro in one key and then adjusted to the new key during practice, but reverted to the first once we were on stage. A lot of the notes were within the new key, but not all. I actually thought the bass player was in the wrong key until I realized it was myself, lol. That was like 10 years ago now, but still possibly my most embarrassing moment on stage.
Ha best video I've seen yet! I don't know anyone that doesn't like Mofro and you have shown us how to deal!!! Thanks for showing this, live on stage without a net! Every third note i play is wrong...
You are a real one Dylan and that's why I'm subscribed. Everyone makes mistakes, doing it with confidence and making it look like it wasn't a mistake is the trick. The fact that there wasn't a monitor wedge in front of you guys even though production knew there was an encore is strange. Still I'm glad that you had the opportunity and everyone was cool with it. Onward and upward dude.
Great video…great subject matter to cover…and great guitar playing, Dylan..I’ve only discovered you about a week ago and am wonderfully impressed and inspired
Don't lose your composure and carry on..... that's what i always do... People often don't even notice
Perfectly jazzy, no problem
I know it could never happen, but my first thought was "It would be interesting to poll the audience to see who noticed". I bet more than 95% had no clue.
First time viewer. It's very cool that you shared this experience. You're an amazing guitar player and a righteous dude on top of that.
You are in good company . Wes Montgomery sat in with Horace Silver and they played Ecaroh , a complex tune changes wise . Horace later said Wes was in the wrong key but was playing his ass off ! Lol
Great topic for a video. It was pointed out that a musical performance is the most demanding test there is. If you get 80% of the answers right on a math test, you'll pass just fine. However if you play only 80% of the right notes during a song, you might get some strange looks and your band mates might ask if you're ok. Musicians are expected to perform for hours at 98% - 100% accuracy. So we should be proud of getting up there in front of an audience and having them walk away with a great memory (as you say) and just forget about the mistakes we might have made.
I once heard and watched Neal Schon play his complete solo out of key in front of a huge crowd and on national TV. It happens.
Love those advices about gigs, sound on stage (with the uafx lion), playing etc… very interesting thank you for sharing your experience !❤
Layman here. That sounded great to me. I couldn't tell it was out of key. If that's the worst that ever happens to you, you've got it made in the shade
Thank you for sharing this! I think we’ve all been there, albeit not in front of that many people. You rock!
You switched to Jazz..?😩🤣
Lol I was thinking that. You could've just said you were doing something "jazzy" lol
That's the beauty of live music. Mistakes are inevitable. If you don't want to hear mistakes, listen to the record. Even then, you may hear a couple.
It's just an exotic mode.
Man... we all do that... and exactly... don't beat yourself... in any aspect in life... mistakes are part of experiencing life... we learn from it... you are an amazing player, very inspirational... and yeah we need to take what we do seriously... but indeed... its only music... like you said not life or dead... Keep on Rocking... and inspiring us all!!!
😉😉😃😃👍👍🎸🎸🤟😎😎🙏🙏
this is a great video and hats off to you for making it :-) hard to believe… But I have started a solo in the wrong key cause it's dark and you can't see the freatboard ..that kind of stuff 😮 this shit happens. Really though… How could you have known that they were going to modulate and yeah, it can get very loud and hard to hear what's happening on stage. You had no reason to doubt until after a while it she didn't sound OK lol ..now what, right? You're playing is awesome! Thanks for sharing these valuable lessons and knowledge.
Hi Dylan, That's some good advise. I've been playing for over 50 years. I've experienced those "moments" on stage. Nevertheless , a good happy attitude about performing has always gone a long way for me too. I've had a saying for my band mates ; "......we are not aiming for the Ed Sullivan show, so relax and enjoy "
If you hadn't explained it, I would never known, and it sounded great to me!
Thanks for having the guts to share this as a teachable moment. No one died! In my career as a Navy pilot we learned to compartmentalize. When a mistake occurs, note it and move on to focus on the task at hand. Later in the debrief, dissect the mistake and learn from it. I am learning slide guitar and your lessons are invaluable. You are making a positive difference in this old amateurs life - thanks!
Hi dylan you are good honest and brave man , respect to you ❤
I once started one of my songs in the wrong key, I could here it was odd...bass player kept looking at me with the squinty eyes...... then the penny dropped.
I wonder how many punters noticed though.
My first guitar performance was when I was 8. I was backstage and ready to go when they pointed to me. I walked out and everyone was laughing at me. I wasn’t sure why so I played ‘When Johnny Comes Marching Home’ in double time and left. It turns out the player before me chickened out and they introduced me as “Now a big hand for Shirley McCarthy,”. I was traumatized.
If you make a mistake, do it again. Then you are a genius ahead of your time.
Dude, don’t feel bad. There’s a video here on TH-cam of Jimmy herring playing w/ Les Claypool and the flying frog brigade, and the whole band modulates up a whole step and Jimmy doesn’t even realize. Turns out fine. Everyone does it!
I loved the D hand signal given at the END of your solo. So Helpful. Next time maybe they'll have floor wedges.
Honestly I can barely tell you’re in the wrong key. You sound great man.
You didn't hear the key change? Neither did I. The whole show was too loud. Not your fault & your humility shows that you care. All the best to you.
Very nice no problem dude!
I have done the exact same thing. It happens. You can't always hear the band "or yourself" dang it. A D9th kind of sounds like a Cmajor anyway. You still sounded great.
It still sounds good!
Wow! Two bands I love together? I gotta get there.
Also how great a lot of your licks and phrases work a full step down and sometimes a full third down and in other keys! We're so used to playing them in the same relation to the tonal center but in reality a lot of those lines can be moved around quite a bit, you just have to adjust your endings to land on those chord tones and resolve.
Just keep on going. Pretend it never happened and do what you do. 👍
I'm a fairly advanced player, but I'm a newbie at playing out, and I do a lot of ad-hoc open mic sessions and run into this a lot. Mainly because we (whoever happens to be there at the time) haven't rehearsed anything, and on stage without a completely professional setup, you can't hear yourself properly. As long as the beat fits, the crowd doesn't seem to care too much. Another thing to remember is how many people out there can actually do any better?
Sounded great to me!
Cm Pentatonic blues scale over D7 alt isn’t too outside it’s just the chord tones you were targeting in your phrases. Maybe you could amplify this experience into a great lesson for your channel.
If you hadn't said anything, I'd never have known. You always sound great!
its all good I dug it!
Everyone in the audience that know nothing about music def didn't notice. Everyone in the audience that does know something about music now think you're the world's greatest jazz guitarist. Either way you've won.
Ugh, I feel ya man! You sounded great and I guarantee no one noticed. I played a sold out theater, and the song I played on required two guitars. I did the switch from my first guitar to my second one and I think I accidentally switched pickups (with one of them being 0 volume) during the swap and I played 8 bars of silence before I realized what went wrong. Luckily I wasn’t the only musician playing, but it was still super embarrassing!
A fool of yourself?? Not even close!! If the average listener even knew the commotion that goes on onstage ... Your playing is phenomenal and I have the utmost respect for what you and the rest of the working musician's do to bring us the experience of getting to see a live band! My hats off to you! I wish I had some of that Jacksonville water that ya'll drink !! Keep up the great work! You are both Gifted!.., AND HUMAN !! just like us all! God-Bless!
Here's a thing.. get someone to vamp on an A7 chord while you noodle over the top of it using A major pentatonic, keep it really simple. Then when you give the signal to the rhythm player (or band) they move up to B7 while you keep noodling in A major pentatonic.. try it!
You're a really solid player. We all make mistakes and you're right when monitors go out or stage lighting stinks, you can lose a little sense of where you are in the song. There is a live recording of a well known pro guitarist with his band where it sounds like he starts out his solo a half step off from the key and realizes it about 4 measures in before correcting himself. It happens
I thought this was going to sound more like Johnny Copeland sitting in with SRV and trying to solo over Cold Shot at Montreux in 85.
No worries brother! There's not a guitarist on the planet that doesn't make a mistake sooner or later! The Band should have clued everyone in on the key change, but I don't believe the crowd even noticed! Rock on brother!🎸
Hello Dylan,
I watched this clip.
You have nothing for which to apologise.
It was the result of a lack of communication - not instigated by yourself.
But hey, stuff happens. Don't be an apologist for others.
On another note, I love your clips.
They're informative, accessible and useful.
I've been a committed ABB fan since the very early '70s.
Was fortunate to see them perform in Boston December 2011. Truth is, I didn't miss Duane as Derek brings integrity and honesty to his part in the ABB mix.
PS do you contract out your skills for other peoples' material & sessions?
Best Regards
Evangelos (Australia)
We’ve all been there … but not in front of 5000 people 😂. Dude, your mistakes are 100 x more interesting than the best efforts of most players. Thanks for sharing.
I once couldn’t remember the key (E or Eb) and played in Eb when the song was in E… the singer finally yelled at me to stop playing 😅… couldn’t hear!
First off, baller move to share this. Secondly, I had to laugh because I have had this kind of thing happen, err, more than once and was completely mortified. And with my crew, there was no refuge. Lol, the boys brutalize you until you just shrug it off. You are exactly right, though. No one really notices and it’s not the end of the world. Btw, you still ripped it. Their loss for modulating 😂 Kudos, Dylan.
very good video and im sure the band new you were playing in the wrong key but i dought the audience new it
Ya playing live is a entire different thing i see a lot of people on y tube all comfortable with there monitors and controlled bedroom set but iive its another ball game your playing is great nice slide in regular tuning
My band mates wouldn’t leave me hanging like that for a full 12 bar solo. They would have went back down a whole step. Then you could communicate that the key goes up a whole tone. Problem solved. I would be pissed if they continued going like that.
Wow
I played at my father in laws funeral, solo acoustic, Amazing Grace in double drop D. The church was packed, the atmosphere was very intense and emotional and I had to sit and wait for several eulogies. The longer I waited, the more I started getting nervous, despite playing hundreds of gigs. By the time it was my turn I was a gibbering wreck. I’d practiced it till I could play it in my sleep. I got through it, but man, it was ragged. I’ll never offer to play in those circumstances again.
Those vocal-similar licks actually sounded okay a full step off. Licks were amazing! It's frustrating when you can't hear on stage.
If you do it twice it becomes jazz... lol. I just laugh it off as best I can. Most people won't even notice.
I've seen even jerry douglas The dobro player hit bum notes a number of times, he shrugs it off and smiles..
Fencey? Hummmmm. And now! The moment we’ve been waiting for.
We must agree for once that there are no mistakes. That would save us another video witth a lot of circular argumentation.
I wish my regular "noodling" sounded as good as your off key solo, it sounded fine to my uneducated ears.
I wish my screw ups could sound that good!
Well C Eb F G Bb you’ve got a b9 and a #5 relative to D but there’s a #5 inherent in a minor blues scale and a static dom 7 will start to act as a V7 at a very point , so really the Bb , b9 is the only tricky pitch .
Dude that wasn't bad. If you didn't mention it I'd have thought you were messing with some interesting tension. That's actually how I heard it.
this is from work, but it applies to performing music as well, I'd bet.
"I know a guy who has never made a mistake. Of course, no one has ever seen him do a f'in thing . . . "
I have heard JJ Grey & Mofro on Blues Music Fan Radio.
good sstuff
To be honest from where the video camera was, it really didn't sound that bad, I mean it really sounds like you are such a good player that you were hearing the right notes to hit and staying away from the nasty ones like the F, and the C sharp .. In that situation.. I learned a long time ago after being so anal about messing up worrying about everybody hearing it that the lay person unless it's one of those real nasty notes people just don't hear it. And I know that in this situation you were more worried about the guys in the band but they are very aware that it was not your fault and I think you held your footing pretty good 👍
I have seen some very famous people people mess up on stage. It happens to eeeevvverybody!!!!!
Sounds fine to me. JJ should've held up 2 fingers telling you to go to the 2.
Nobody noticed…not even jj. Lolu crushed it brother. Plus two dominants a whole step apart kinda gets into whole tone land…not exactly but kinda and again, no one noticed!
I wish all my fuckups sounded that good 😭😭
Only the musicians standing in the back with their arms crossed noticed 😁
I wish I could sound as unsure as you do....