My Honda 125 scooter, which I more or less only use for running about town to shops because of the top box and underseat capacity, does about 200 miles on a tankful. I fill it up about every 6 to 8 weeks I'd say. Buying a town and city use electric bike would be likely for similar reasons so a range of around 80 miles may mean I need to charge it every 3 weeks. I can live very happily with that. Even better is that I can charge that off the inverter on my shed solar so not even connected to the mains meter.
Thinking of looking into a jackery solar generator to see if I can charge it with that. If so, I may even attempt a wee road trip around Scotland on one, could be interesting
Litium-Ion batteries don't like to be too charged or too discharged for long times, so they would last longer if you charge them right after you used them rather than when they are almost empty. Also, avoid charging them to more than 80 % unless you really need the last 20 % and you are going to use them right away. I charge mine to a little more than 50 % right after I used them and then I charge them again right before using them. I have charged mine more than 700 times now and they are still in a good shape.
The only major negative is that you have virtually no underseat storage on these, compared to say the silence s01, which can hold 16 full sized wine bottles under the seat
I have this for getting around London, one battery is plenty. A delivery company called Getir use them along with the Nui’s. So they are quite common here
The great thing about this ride was that it covers the very roads on which I would be riding if I purchased an Electric Bike. I was impressed with the hillclimb section, that is serious incline.
Great scooter would benefit alot of people and for the price you can’t go wrong in my opinion. Personally would have one but as only just done my cbt I want to ride something with gears otherwise I would have one as I want something for leisure . Great review x
Another excellent review .. thank you. I share your disappointment with the Super Soco CPX, the bike promises so much with it's two batteries, range, top speed etc. but is let down by the acceleration and overall performance. There are some really nice touches to this bike, like the easy to remove back wheel, straight forward charging, large wheels, handling, etc. ... it could be the ideal commuter. To me, if Super Soco address: the performance (acceleration to be more inline with a 125cc petrol), fit a proper indicator switch, give the bike more robust mirrors, look at fitting a height adjustable screen, offer a colour coordinated top box as standard (to make up for the lack of under-seat stowage) this bike could tick a lot of boxes and sales could rocket, attracting a lot of riders from petrol machines. Your thoughts Spicy??
Great review! Side stands on both sides are common in Taiwan for delivery scooters, so that it doesn't accidentally tip over. Notice how the seats are two piece? There's a delivery version of this scooter without the second seat!
When it comes to this style of electric scooters I really like the look of the Silence S01 and S02. Fantastic looking scooters, decent specs and a really clever little pull out battery on wheels.
I went to a bicycle race, cyclocross, and I saw something I never saw before. People hopping on and off their bikes on the right side. Yes, there are people for whom this is more natural. Perhaps this explains the right side mount for the kickstand on this scooter. Cheers from the USA.
This looks like a great town runaround. I currently live 14 miles from work and it regularly takes me 90 minutes to get to work during London rush hour. Something like this could really cut down on times, especially when I’m not doing the school run.
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Not just America... It applies to everywhere you drive on the right side of the road, the side stand thingy.
The only motorcycle I ever had with the side stand on the right was a 1973 Harley 350 Sprint, and it had the kick starter on the left 😳. I was forever looking for the side stand on the other side, and I had to stand beside the bike to start, it because I’m not coordinated enough to kick start one with my left leg 😆😆🤪.
i would recommend the silence so1 and so2 over the cpx any day, the silence bikes have more range, power, acceleration and a few mph faster for more or less the same price.
2:35 False! Connecting the charger to the charging port on the scooter will NOT result in both batteries being charged simultaneously but one after the other.
I've actually seen a lady from Manchester review this bike already. Definitely the battery's on this make the bike quite practical and near on 80 miles is more than adequate. I like it.🙂
Yeah IDK, if you're going to go above 80 miles, you might want to look into a proper bike... or maybe... a car? In my country 80 miles gets me a huge cut throughout the country. The only problem with these sort of bikes is that you can't charge them at normal electric car chargers. You NEED a wall socket, and if you want to do a road trip on these things, you're gonna have to find a lot of generous people to let you charge your batteries for a few hours, even if it's only a few bucks worth of electricity.
From viewing a few videos of electric scooters, the range is never as stated in the specifications. Whatever range is actually achievable will then gradually decline over a few years. If you are a very green person this may be an option, but with all the gas guzzlers still going about I have no qualms about running a petrol for a few more years. Still a lot more green than taking 1.5 to 2 tonnes of car with one occupant to work every day.
For some reason I feel that they may have that system reversed were normally number one is your eco mode and number three is your sport mode I think that on this bike three is Eco a number one would be sport so I'm hoping and further reviews of this bike you actually play around with the different riding modes and test the difference and them cuz I think you'll find that going down to mode one or two you actually get more pep and probably even a little bit better top speed
spicy110 Hello. Does anyone know how to turn on and calibrate the clock. I've been driving it for 3 months now and I can't get it to show up on the screen. it's very unpleasant like that. thanks
Well this is a 125cc equivalent, the other is a 50cc equivalent I think. I would be comparing that with the super soco cux I reviewed not this. I would go for the fast one with more range if it was my only bike. All depends on you.
I do not know if you are asking on this video because you want to know for this bike? I can not answer it from that angle as this is a review bike I do not own it. IF you are asking in general then just call up one of the well known motorcycle specific insurers and get quotes. The average will be what it will cost you. Do not use comparison sites! Hope that helps.
No they do not, you are unlikely to get regen on the cheaper electric 125cc equivalents. The only bike of this class with regen I have ridden and know of are the Zero FX and FXE 11kw.
specs are measured facts., they are not affected by "hype" However it I think they measured at the motor and not the wheel. So in the sense has this bike got 3/4 of the toque of a 2500cc Triumph Rocket 3?...no, not at all.
On the indicators, you young riders have been spoiled, when I started riding in the 70s you had to return the switch to the centre position to cancel, no one had a problem, no one complained, so sorry but they do belong on a motorcycle, just because they came up with the push to cancel doesn't mean that's the only way, granted its a bit easier, but it's nothing we older rides didn't deal with on a day to day basis 🤷🏻♂️
Issue is false advertising and misleading, a 125cc engine is around 12kw. This is only 4kw and closer on power to a 50cc moped deresticted for top speed.
If the specs have the true figures it is not either of those things legally speaking. 125cc is a displacement amount not a KW fig and as such some 125cc engines put out 25BHP and other 6. I mean criticize it all you wish but keep to the facts.
I'm not an expert, but the way the power is delivered is different. Comparing the kW figure I don't think is entirely accurate in determining power equivalence being delivered to the wheels. The SuperSoco has a hub motor, so the power is going directly to the wheel and will also produce a lot less heat than a petrol scooter. No doubt it is less powerful, but it is an electric bike with green credentials at the end of the day. You would not get a 50cc petrol getting to 60mph or getting up steep hills at 30mph, even if derestricted.
As stated its electric not petrol so you can not make a comparison to petrol prices and as Yamaha sell its lead 125cc for the same money if not slightly makes this one of the first more reasonably priced electrics. Talking from a ground of facts rather than opinion.
Like i said i would never pay 4 grand + on any 125 cc battery or petrol.both are way over priced.if they want to move people from petrol to eco then they really need to br8ng prices down on bikes,cars etc.
If I feel I need ABS for what I want to do I would have no qualms paying and extra grand for it, but I see what you are saying, for £4k to £5k here, you aren't getting a scooter with ABS that you could confidently commute on for the majority of the year. It depends on where your priorities lie, whether it be green credentials, speed, safety, running costs, maintenance costs etc. It should all be factored in, but whether buyers do or not is another matter.
My Honda 125 scooter, which I more or less only use for running about town to shops because of the top box and underseat capacity, does about 200 miles on a tankful. I fill it up about every 6 to 8 weeks I'd say. Buying a town and city use electric bike would be likely for similar reasons so a range of around 80 miles may mean I need to charge it every 3 weeks. I can live very happily with that. Even better is that I can charge that off the inverter on my shed solar so not even connected to the mains meter.
Thinking of looking into a jackery solar generator to see if I can charge it with that. If so, I may even attempt a wee road trip around Scotland on one, could be interesting
Litium-Ion batteries don't like to be too charged or too discharged for long times, so they would last longer if you charge them right after you used them rather than when they are almost empty. Also, avoid charging them to more than 80 % unless you really need the last 20 % and you are going to use them right away.
I charge mine to a little more than 50 % right after I used them and then I charge them again right before using them. I have charged mine more than 700 times now and they are still in a good shape.
The only major negative is that you have virtually no underseat storage on these, compared to say the silence s01, which can hold 16 full sized wine bottles under the seat
At twice the cost
Now THIS is where electric bikes should have the money spent. Perfect for cities and easy to charge.
I have this for getting around London, one battery is plenty. A delivery company called Getir use them along with the Nui’s. So they are quite common here
The great thing about this ride was that it covers the very roads on which I would be riding if I purchased an Electric Bike. I was impressed with the hillclimb section, that is serious incline.
Great scooter would benefit alot of people and for the price you can’t go wrong in my opinion. Personally would have one but as only just done my cbt I want to ride something with gears otherwise I would have one as I want something for leisure . Great review x
Another excellent review .. thank you. I share your disappointment with the Super Soco CPX, the bike promises so much with it's two batteries, range, top speed etc. but is let down by the acceleration and overall performance. There are some really nice touches to this bike, like the easy to remove back wheel, straight forward charging, large wheels, handling, etc. ... it could be the ideal commuter. To me, if Super Soco address: the performance (acceleration to be more inline with a 125cc petrol), fit a proper indicator switch, give the bike more robust mirrors, look at fitting a height adjustable screen, offer a colour coordinated top box as standard (to make up for the lack of under-seat stowage) this bike could tick a lot of boxes and sales could rocket, attracting a lot of riders from petrol machines. Your thoughts Spicy??
Great review! Side stands on both sides are common in Taiwan for delivery scooters, so that it doesn't accidentally tip over. Notice how the seats are two piece? There's a delivery version of this scooter without the second seat!
Yes, they use them in the UK for the same thing.
When it comes to this style of electric scooters I really like the look of the Silence S01 and S02. Fantastic looking scooters, decent specs and a really clever little pull out battery on wheels.
I test rode the S01 few days ago, the acceleration is insane compared to a Honda Forza 125
I went to a bicycle race, cyclocross, and I saw something I never saw before. People hopping on and off their bikes on the right side. Yes, there are people for whom this is more natural. Perhaps this explains the right side mount for the kickstand on this scooter.
Cheers from the USA.
This looks like a great town runaround. I currently live 14 miles from work and it regularly takes me 90 minutes to get to work during London rush hour. Something like this could really cut down on times, especially when I’m not doing the school run.
Not just America... It applies to everywhere you drive on the right side of the road, the side stand thingy.
yer but its only people from the US who seem to have their minds blown by it haha.
I jump these over speed bumps and you can hear and feel that batteries jumping around underneath you.
The only motorcycle I ever had with the side stand on the right was a 1973 Harley 350 Sprint, and it had the kick starter on the left 😳. I was forever looking for the side stand on the other side, and I had to stand beside the bike to start, it because I’m not coordinated enough to kick start one with my left leg 😆😆🤪.
Price is Good, but I like my electrics with a bit more punch. Any plans to look at the new Energica's with the upgraded motor?
yes I am waiting on one no date yet but soon
i would recommend the silence so1 and so2 over the cpx any day, the silence bikes have more range, power, acceleration and a few mph faster for more or less the same price.
2:35 False! Connecting the charger to the charging port on the scooter will NOT result in both batteries being charged simultaneously but one after the other.
What I mean is you can plug it in once and charge both opposed to pluging one in, then unplugging that and plugging in the next.
@@spicy110 Okay.
You did good bro
Yeah, I watched a video on parking bikes by an American person, and leaning into the road is a thing!
I've actually seen a lady from Manchester review this bike already. Definitely the battery's on this make the bike quite practical and near on 80 miles is more than adequate. I like it.🙂
Yeah IDK, if you're going to go above 80 miles, you might want to look into a proper bike... or maybe... a car? In my country 80 miles gets me a huge cut throughout the country. The only problem with these sort of bikes is that you can't charge them at normal electric car chargers. You NEED a wall socket, and if you want to do a road trip on these things, you're gonna have to find a lot of generous people to let you charge your batteries for a few hours, even if it's only a few bucks worth of electricity.
From viewing a few videos of electric scooters, the range is never as stated in the specifications. Whatever range is actually achievable will then gradually decline over a few years.
If you are a very green person this may be an option, but with all the gas guzzlers still going about I have no qualms about running a petrol for a few more years. Still a lot more green than taking 1.5 to 2 tonnes of car with one occupant to work every day.
What electric bike would you buy? BMW c-evolution?
Hi Spicy you should give a review of the Zontes bikes
For some reason I feel that they may have that system reversed were normally number one is your eco mode and number three is your sport mode I think that on this bike three is Eco a number one would be sport so I'm hoping and further reviews of this bike you actually play around with the different riding modes and test the difference and them cuz I think you'll find that going down to mode one or two you actually get more pep and probably even a little bit better top speed
It has a number and words of the screen.
thanks to Queen we ride on left side of the road after 5 o'clock.
Thank you
No.1 ev super soco & green energy 💪
I think it will be more economical and faster without the visor.
Which mic are you using w/your GoPro? 🤔 Sounds really good!
I record audio separately with a field recorder and a modified sena mic.
@@spicy110 I literally just got done watching that video lol.
What is the actual mileage of this scoter with single battery
spicy110 Hello. Does anyone know how to turn on and calibrate the clock. I've been driving it for 3 months now and I can't get it to show up on the screen. it's very unpleasant like that. thanks
I do not know but, have you contacted Super Soco? Just email them and ask.
@@spicy110 Thanks bro. What am I trying to contact?
If you could compare this to the Niu NQI GT, that would be great!
th-cam.com/video/pZSKnld7x2g/w-d-xo.html
@@spicy110 Which one would you pick if you had to, and why?
Well this is a 125cc equivalent, the other is a 50cc equivalent I think. I would be comparing that with the super soco cux I reviewed not this. I would go for the fast one with more range if it was my only bike. All depends on you.
Can you please recommend a insurance broker in the UK for this, i'm struggling to find one, who do you use ?
I do not know if you are asking on this video because you want to know for this bike? I can not answer it from that angle as this is a review bike I do not own it. IF you are asking in general then just call up one of the well known motorcycle specific insurers and get quotes. The average will be what it will cost you. Do not use comparison sites! Hope that helps.
@@spicy110 Thanks for taking the time to reply, will a battery last a lifetime do you think, or say like 40,000 miles ?
why not have a built-in charger so you charge as you go? drive until your wheels fall off or you pass out ...
That would break the conservation of energy physics law.
@@spicy110 Two of something should do it ...
@@marcus3376 hahaha
Can this bike do 80 mph
Does it have regenerative braking?
No they do not, you are unlikely to get regen on the cheaper electric 125cc equivalents. The only bike of this class with regen I have ridden and know of are the Zero FX and FXE 11kw.
Does having two battery's make it go faster?
no just extends range.
What is the real range when riding it 50 mph?
There is a lot more to it than just speed when it comes to range and electrics. What the range test here th-cam.com/video/i7iTI1ITrvw/w-d-xo.html
No regen seems crazy to me
Cost, remember regen is more about breaking than making any real power back.
Thanks buddy. How do you think this compares to the NIU NQi GTS Pro?
How to buy these batteries in indonesia?
No idea.
The specs says 150 Nm. Is it really or just a hype?
specs are measured facts., they are not affected by "hype" However it I think they measured at the motor and not the wheel. So in the sense has this bike got 3/4 of the toque of a 2500cc Triumph Rocket 3?...no, not at all.
What battery brand??
Form what i can see Batteries are produced by LG, Samsung or Panasonic. As in they use all of them.
On the indicators, you young riders have been spoiled, when I started riding in the 70s you had to return the switch to the centre position to cancel, no one had a problem, no one complained, so sorry but they do belong on a motorcycle, just because they came up with the push to cancel doesn't mean that's the only way, granted its a bit easier, but it's nothing we older rides didn't deal with on a day to day basis 🤷🏻♂️
We also used to send messages by pigeon, things move on! haha 😉
@@spicy110 and for the most part it was more reliable than the royal mail 😂
Ok you got me there! 🤣👍
Issue is false advertising and misleading, a 125cc engine is around 12kw. This is only 4kw and closer on power to a 50cc moped deresticted for top speed.
If the specs have the true figures it is not either of those things legally speaking. 125cc is a displacement amount not a KW fig and as such some 125cc engines put out 25BHP and other 6. I mean criticize it all you wish but keep to the facts.
I'm not an expert, but the way the power is delivered is different. Comparing the kW figure I don't think is entirely accurate in determining power equivalence being delivered to the wheels. The SuperSoco has a hub motor, so the power is going directly to the wheel and will also produce a lot less heat than a petrol scooter.
No doubt it is less powerful, but it is an electric bike with green credentials at the end of the day. You would not get a 50cc petrol getting to 60mph or getting up steep hills at 30mph, even if derestricted.
A PCX 125 would murder this thing.
...and? That is entirety missing the point. Out of interest do you have a PCX?
@@spicy110 No, I don't.
How is it missing the point if they class it as a 125cc equivalent?
4.5 grand is still way to much for a 125 scooter.or any 125 for that matter.petrol or electric
As stated its electric not petrol so you can not make a comparison to petrol prices and as Yamaha sell its lead 125cc for the same money if not slightly makes this one of the first more reasonably priced electrics. Talking from a ground of facts rather than opinion.
Like i said i would never pay 4 grand + on any 125 cc battery or petrol.both are way over priced.if they want to move people from petrol to eco then they really need to br8ng prices down on bikes,cars etc.
If I feel I need ABS for what I want to do I would have no qualms paying and extra grand for it, but I see what you are saying, for £4k to £5k here, you aren't getting a scooter with ABS that you could confidently commute on for the majority of the year.
It depends on where your priorities lie, whether it be green credentials, speed, safety, running costs, maintenance costs etc. It should all be factored in, but whether buyers do or not is another matter.
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FULL MAXIMUM SPEED, 60 Kph
I think you mean kph and no I am in the UK so it is mph.
@@spicy110
Yes, Kph.
Sorry for Typographical Error
Do you need a driver license to ride this bike
You need a licence to ride any motorcycle. This one just needs a CBT
@@spicy110 Manual or automatic please?
My old c90 would piss all over that
I'll stick with my gsa 1200 rallye
to slow for a electric bike!
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