I also think that if Puss in Boots The Last Wish proved anything it’s that there’s nothing wrong with doing more with these franchises just as long as they’re given time and effort to do something fresh and new for people to keep coming back to it.
I'd love for the 3rd movie to have the main antagonist be a dark reflection of Elsa. Similar background but have her be what kind of person Elsa could've been if Anna's heart never thawed with elements from the original version of the 1st movie. And maybe have the 3rd movie be split into 2 parts and have Frozen 3 act as Part 1 and Frozen 4 act as Part 2
While an interesting concept, I feel like exploring a dark Elsa concept has passed, simply due to the fact that it feels like contradicting/backtracking on her journey rather than showing how far she's come. I like the idea of an evil counterpart, though.
@@benmunn7593 Since Elsa is the 5th spirit and an embodiment of love, a spirit of darkness could potentially exist as the antagonist. Maybe we'll get a "Frozen" villain song.
I personally hope that Frozen III and IV will have a fully established villain for Elsa and Anna to face. Maybe an evil sorceress similar to Maleficent. I love that Wish has King Magnifico as a fully established villain, I hope more are on the way and I hope to help make more villains with the studio.
With the trend leaning back to making good villains again, I do hope Frozen 3 and 4 gets influenced by this. They need a good villain to face. They're finally done with solving mysteries. Now, it's time for them to face real tangible threats.
They announced Frozen 3 months ago along with a Toy Story 5 and Zootopia 2 and now they're announcing a Frozen 4. Disney is clearly just cash cowing in on Frozen popular for as long as they can. Won't be long until there's a live-action Frozen.
No!!!!! We don't need another one! I'm sorry to say this but Disney is getting too carried away about things like this. Frozen 3 isn't even out and they don't even know how the people will take to it!
I think James Gunn said it best in an interview on TH-cam there’s no such thing as fatigue the problem is you just want the story done right and sometimes the writing holds up others not so much, and if Frozen is being turned into a saga that’s a great way to expand on the themes already established as a give a more satisfying ending for everyone
I already knew about Frozen 3, but Frozen 4… YES, YES, YES and Heck YEAH. I’m Extremely Excited to see these future films. I hope in one of them brings King Runeard back, like instead of falling to his death he might survived the fall and aged after a long time so he can finally meet his granddaughters.
One thing I will say though is that this is kinda a problem I have with pretty much every franchise these days where there’s really no real sense of finality anyone, I mean y’all remember when Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part 2 was coming out and it was hyped up as “Yeah this is the end of this story no more, done” and also between this, Kung Fu Panda 4, Toy Story and a few other film series it doesn’t seem like there can be only a trilogy anymore. I mean as long as certain things in these franchises are kept fresh I’m for the most part okay with it but still it doesn’t really feel like a story can have a definitive end.
As much as I do miss having the sense of finality, I know how you feel. HP Deathly Hallows Part 2 was the last time I saw a masterful conclusion. I didn’t expect to be blown away by it. I don’t fully oppose Kung Fu Panda 4 because the previous movies are awesome. No pun intended. Toy Story 5 I’ll have to see for myself because I care for Pixar too much to see them mess it up. Other than that, I fully agree with you.
Hey Issac Carlson I heard about this a few days ago but it's official I can't wait for this film plus I think you're an absolutely amazing TH-camr 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
It would be interesting to see how Elsa and Anna can come together to face a genuinely ruthless villain (like the Last Wish), yeah, I know its kind of a simple idea but that's when we could finally see them come together instead of just Elsa's powers being the only thing that saves everyone, this time, both of them need to actually work together to solve the problem, that would be nice to see, and of course, add Christoff into it too!
Now that Elsa isn't in the kingdom. Hun has good opportunity to attack but of course he knows if Anna is in trouble Elsa will return so he also finds something to trap Elsa.
I'm not seeing a lot of enthusiasm for "Frozen 4" on Reddit, especially since "Frozen 3" hasn't even come out yet, and many people were disappointed with the direction that Jennifer Lee decided to take the story in "Frozen 2". Others wanted to see the return and redemption of Prince Hans from the original "Frozen" movie.
I’ll give them this announcing 2 frozen films is a bold move considering the state Disney is in these films need to be beyond what frozen 2 was (a messy but overall ok sequel) And also people are going to hate me for saying this but it needs to be said if they want these movies to succeed they have to get out of politics and just tell good stories
I think of it as bold too! And I rather have a good story than lazy politics too! I’m glad I didn’t see the last movie! I was afraid something would happen!
Hold on. Frozen 4? So there's going to be a Frozen 3? I'm calling it now: Anna and Kristoff are going to have kids and be the Tired Millennials with their babies.
The Frozen movies has a beautiful animation and story. At first I was worried when I saw that the 4th movie was already announced and that the story would be lost in trying to create more movies. What you said does give me hope for a great end to the Frozen saga! I loved how Frozen 2 had a main theme of change. Frozen had a theme of self discovery and that love is more powerful than fear. Frozen 2 shows that life and who we are will always continue to change, and yes, it is hard, but sometimes it also leads to a lot of personal growth. Also that the love Anna and Elsa have for each other will always remain even as they take different paths in life. I'm excited to see what's next for them!
Inside out of frozen are completely different and incomparable and opposite in them . Inside out is about forgetting frozen is about remembering what if Olaf was forgotten like BingBong
I honestly thought that the series would be great as a trilogy. Way back since 2014. Personally, I hope that this fourth movie is just the third movie split into two, like infinity war, and endgame.
I think Once Upon a Time had some good ideas on how to follow up on the Frozen story. Stuff like Hans and his brothers becoming a threat again, Elsa in an unfamiliar setting/world, and delving more into magic. the main/true threat could be another ice-magic user, setting up a dramatic final fight
Well since they're making a 3rd one I hope they at least let Anna and Elsa stay with each other the WHOLE time and maybe have them live together again in the end?I'm still wondering if they'll ever give Elsa a love interest? What happened to Kristoff's parents and how did he end up on his own? We NEED to learn more about him, his past, and how he met Sven also him and Anna might start a family after they get married
Here’s the thing. This feels like it needs to be a trilogy, to me. Movie one: establishes characters and their personalities. Movie two: characters developed and greater mysteries are revealed. Movie three: characters reach their conclusions as all elements from prior movies are resolved. Three movies are more than enough to tell an extended story, and if you go too far you chance spoiling something good. Case in point: Toy Story 4.
I wonder if their going to do more of a back story on how Frozen is connected to Tangled or if they have more family members somewhere with the same power as Elsa
While I appreciate your optimism and I mean no disrespect to you when I say this, Issac, I think you're letting Disney take you for a ride and blinding yourself to what they're pretty clearly doing. Even people who have no interest in Disney know they've dug themselves into a hole and would recognise Disney announcing two Frozen movies as an attempt to clean up their mess. Like, come on, man... I'm not sure if you're trying to/ have to stay in their good graces or you're just in denial (not that I blame you) or perhaps you just don't see what most do, but there's no way the announcement of two Frozen films was done just because they care about the story they were telling. I was pretty confident Frozen 2 was a cash grab already, but I had no idea they didn't even know who the voice calling Elsa was until WEEKS before the movie was RELEASED! You know, the WHOLE REASON the sequel even happened! That's such an INSANE level of negligence towards a story they pretend to care so much about, mate. There's no point pretending otherwise; Disney's lost its magic. Maybe it'll come back, but it's become so blatantly profit driven now that it's just poisoning everything. Disney has never been perfect, not by a long shot, but this is DIRE. And deeply depressing.
I think I know what'll happen in Frozen 3: An evil Northaldrin tries to take over Arendel and Anna and Elsa have to stop him. And maybe in Frozen 4 Hans and The Duke of Wessleton team up to destroy Anna and Elsa and take over Arendel and Anna, Elsa, Kristoff, Sven, Olaf, The Northaldrins, The Arendelians, Oken, The Spirits, The Trolls, Marshmallow and the mini snowmen, and The Ghosts of King Agnar and Queen Iduna all thave to come together to stop them.
I love your optimistic view of Frozen 3 & 4. Because Frozen is such a money-maker, the franchise is just not allowed by Disney to just turn it into a TV series. But you're right when it comes to Frozen as a story is still in good hands. If Disney allows the Frozen creatives to have all the time they need to develop both movies, even though they will still have their tendencies to change much of the script midway, I believe they can deliver them well.
I hope 3 & 4 will be a good storyline that makes the wait worth it. Like you said, 2 answered some questions but brought up more & left things open for a lot of ideas. If they're done really well then it will be a great thing, & if not then it could make a lot of people turn on the company. People mostly want more original stories, not "live action" remakes. While the fairy tale of the Snow Queen was the original inspiration for Frozen, they did turn it into an original story that used what works in animated fairy tales of the past & I think that is a large part of its success.
Happy thanksgiving!!! Even tho I’m a very new Frozen fan, I’m just as excited to see what stories Arendelle has in store! I loved the difference between the first and second stories, but how it’s still tied together. I hope this continues and seems to be very cared about and in good hands!
Maybe if Riley made a doll of BingBong there's a living body .and can live on on his own . Like Woody. I'm mean When toy dies if playing with the toy in the first is what brought the toy to life. And when people die they literally live on in our memory. But How come Hector didn't go to the great beyond after Coco died
As someone who really loves James Cameron's united vision for his Avatar franchise, I'm willing to give Jennifer Lee the creative room to expand the Frozen-verse.
So apparently Iger has learned nothing from all of his failing and milked to death franchises. It's really sad because I like Frozen and don't want to see it get destroyed by greed and pandering like alle the other IP. Also a bonus tip for the team involved in the 3rd Frozen movie, please decide ahead of time where you want your story to go. The Frozen 2 making of material revealed that they had no idea what to do with Elsa's story and threw something together while most of the movie was already done and it frankly showed. I found this story arc very unsatisfying while watching the movie and have read so much better ideas for Elsa's story resolution written by fans afterwards, so that the official ending falls really flat. Please don't repeat that mistake.
Since Middle School moving into High School I’ve had a massive crushes on both Elsa and Anna and I related to Elsa’s personal struggles and relationship with her sibling
Exciting for Frozen and Disney's Wish ✨ 2023 movie coming out next week 😊👍 it's an Original movie finally. Jennifer Lee worked on the film too like she did with Frozen and Frozen 2.
I have a theory that maybe in Frozen 3 Hans will come back and destroy Kristoff and Anna's wedding. Also maybe Kristoff's parents are alive somewhere and will come to find him and be at his wedding.
honetly, i think frozen 5 might happen and it's just a feeling and hunch, however frozen is starting to feel the avengers franchise with Infinity War and Endgame as the conclusion
I gave up on Frozen although I was spared from the last movie. The original and the Olaf’s Frozen Adventure were good enough for me. I was 21 when the first movie came out ten years ago. And I was so eager to see a new kind of Disney story. I was initially drawn by the voice Star power of Idina & Kristin as Elsa & Anna. As well as Jennifer Lee’s promotion to co-director to go with her work on the script. I had no idea of the heartfelt story or the phenomenon it would be become. Before the 2nd movie came out I was intrigued by Elsa finding out her powers. Sadly, Into The Unknown or The Next Right Thing didn’t make me feel motivated to hear more or get me hyped for the movie. I’ll be 31 in February. I’m reluctant right now to get back into the Frozen spirit. But if it is a two part finale, I wish Jennifer Lee and her associates at Disney Animation the best. I’m still not ready to accept Anna as Queen and like you Issac, I grieve what could have been Elsa fully adjusting as a leader to Arendelle.
I may have thought that the ultimate question is how did Queen Iduna know about her mother’s lullaby to her children ? Who raised Elsa before Elsa was born cursed ?
Well as long there's good story material to tell, I'm all for it. Others think that Disney did milk some franchise too much, to which I say there are already 4 shrek movies (The fifth one is in progress) , 3 KFP movies (4th one is coming) & 3 Madagascar movies (4th is coming)... The studio isn't the only studio that make sequels after sequels. I think ppl would like to watch movies with good story telling, not the mess of everything combined into one and try to cash on it, as long the team working the project is controlling the plot, it shouldn't be a problem
as someone who has been a frozen fan for 11 years now, I like the idea of a frozen 3 and 4. I had many unanswered questions, some of which you said in this video. I would also like to see a new villian perhaps, or maybe a strain on Anna and Elsa's relationship as they are now carrying out new lives
I knew Frozen 3 was being made call it a feeling but Frozen 4 what I can't wait to see them oh what happens if Kristoff mom and dad are alive even better if Anna and Elsa's mom and dad are actually still alive oh man I can't wait
If sporks are good enough bodies for imaginary friends .if Riley made doll of BingBong he'd love on in his own body to live his own life like Woody. But how Did Stinky Pete come to life if he was never opened
You know I wasn't sure at first if I thought it was a good thing or not that there would be a Frozen 4. I had the same worries you mentioned at the beginning of the video. But you've managed to convince me that this is gonna be great and now I'm so excited and looking forward to them! I hope we finally get to see Kristof's backstory, meaning what happened to him and his parents before where we see him with the ice harvesters. Where is he from? Did the trolls erase his memory of the sad events so that he would be happier? I wouldn't put it past them. How did he meet Sphven (sorry I don't know how to spell it)? I need answers!
Here is what I think should happen- I think that a new Frozen saga should focus on the development of TECHNOLOGY in the world of Arendelle, and the clash between magic and technology. I can imagine that not every person in the world is totally accepting of magic as something good for the world, and instead, they would believe that only technology is reliable. I would like to see Elsa facing against an antagonist who is somewhat like Tony Stark.
@@manuelorozco7760 Given Encanto is set in the 1950s, it's definitely more plausible, but even then... It's ironic that the OP mentioned Tony Stark, because this plot idea sounds less like a Disney movie and more like a Marvel one. It's not a bad idea, by any means; just not for a Disney movie set in the 1800s lol
I just hope they cover other people gifted with magic. I know Elsa has magic for special reasons but it would be interesting to see Elsa finally find people like her. Maybe they'll take Once Upon a Time's approach and introduce an ancestor who also has magic. Maybe I just want to see Elsa get into a Magic battle, but I think it'd be cool to see other forms of magic in that universe.
I’m sorry but I just couldn’t get into Frozen 2 like I wanted it so well and it was so disappointing. The songs weren’t as good or felt like imitations of the original movie, the plot felt directionless, and most of the characters were forgotten and had nothing to do the whole movie. I fell like the outtakes from the film would have improved it vastly.
So I guess what I was saying is I think it would be great for the third and fourth movie to have that direction that was lacking in the previous film and actually focus on the characters it has before introducing even more to do nothing with them too.
I would actually really love if frozen III focused a bit more on kristoff and his background, because like you said he seemed to have been pushed to the back in the second movie, he seemed more of anna's puppy than her fiance lol.
I wanna know why Kristoff wasn't searched for when the trolls took him in along with Sven like is he an orphan? Was one of the Ice breakers his dad or brother??Why didn't any of those men look for him when he disappeared???? Also doesn't Olaf realize there's absolutely no one like him? Doesn't he ever feel lonely being the only one of his kind? Am I the only one wondering about that ?😂
Thanks for the posititivy around the announcement of Frozen 4. I'm a major Frozen fan and never felt the second movie was a "cash grab." Although it has problems in the writing, it is an exceptional, even profound, movie that does what a good sequel is supposed to do. But this go round, knowing Disney's behind the scenes situation, a quick Frozen 4 after Frozen 3 did raise my concerns that the characters and story will not be handled correctly. You've soothed my concerns some, along with the knowledge of how much Jenn Lee and the creatives love these characters. Frankly, I've long thought Frozen 2 should have been in two parts. That would have helped with some of the problems w/ the writing. There is certainly room for more stories, especially given the rushed, cobbled ending to Frozen 2 which, as much as I love and admire it, didn't give it a completely satisfactory landing. Perhaps a 2 and 3 indicates they learned a lesson from the problems with 2 and these final movies will conclude everything perfectly. If you or anyone else would be interested in my in-depth thoughts on Frozen 1 and 2, please consider reading my fully illustrated blogs beginning with "Why Everyone Is Wrong About Frozen: The Movie No One Ever Sees" here -- and thanx for upbeat words on my favorite animated series and characters! minorprofitpress.com/2019/02/20/why-everyone-is-wrong-about-frozen-part-one-the-movie-no-one-ever-sees/
On some level I guess I can understand the excitement I am planning on checking out these films most because I do hope they expand the world building. I am also glad you felt the same way I did with frozen ii as while I didn’t hate it, it did feel incomplete and that’s what I hope the next few films will bring.
Personally, if a third and fourth are too happen. Well, first of all, I hope they have a justified reason for why they are doing both 3 AND 4, secondly, they have a villain this time, and thirdly, that the film ends with Anna and Elsa BOTH as queen of Arrendelle. Not only truly uniting Mankind and Nature, with Arrendelle perhaps being turned into a Medieval version of Earth-838 from Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, but also showing the sisters are finally properly unified. Not to mention breaking the traditions of monarchy. I also think they should introduce another elemental human like Elsa who could perhaps be her love interest, as well either retcon or explain better the whole "Spirits/5th Spirit" stuff. Finally, make it a crossover with Tangled because Rapunzel is Anna and Elsas cousin, and I refuse to believe otherwise. Lol. EDIT: Also, give Anna powers.
I too didn't originaly like the direction Frozen 2 took, only to then change my mind last year, thanks to other opinions and points of view on the movie. It still has many flaws, but it's not senseless and it does build on the first movie, as a sort of "Part 2" where what happened in the first movie is both relevant to the characters arc and has a deep thematical correlation and parallelism with what happens in the sequel. If they are announcing both movies so soon, it's because they are building something big, as Iger himself said that Lee and co. are working on two stories, and whatever people likes it or not, Frozen is something special, Disney needs to make it an event for audiences. My main hope would be seeing the same approach used in Frozen 2: expand things relating them to what we know in order to deepen what we saw before, in order for things to remain personal. With how F2 ended, there is A LOT they can explore having both sisters in their new roles as leaders, but it also means they can allow the story to explore other characters, instead of risking what F2 did with Kristoff, for example, having to rewrite and shorten his character arc in a story that had more to do with Anna and Elsa relationship with their parents. Which also means they can actually explore new places and introducing new faces without the danger of rushing everything or making other characters too secondary. Sincerly, I'm quite excited, I can't wait to know more about these two movies.
I think seeing Anna and Kristoff get married and have a child/children would be interesting, imagine Elsa an Aunt to a little boy with Anna's personality. Xxx
Honestly I’m glad to hear that there will be a fourth, there are just WAY too many threads to tie up in just one movie. And if they do the plot that’s been heavily theorized and even hinted by the creators, it would be perfect as a two parter. So what if the first part shows Hans returning (something they have mentioned really wanting to happen) and he gets his redemption. He’s trying to expose the trolls but no one believes him. The plot builds and the first part of the story could leave with the main antagonist (the trolls) putting the plan into motion, and our heroes gearing up with a way to stop them. But then the second part begins with a flashback, and we finally learn Kristoff and Sven’s backstory. We see them grow up with the trolls, etc. I dunno what the rest of the details would be, but the finale should be the wedding no matter what they decide on doing. But I think there’s a good chance at it being about Kristoff, giving Hans a redemption arc, and getting to the bottom of what the trolls are really up to. Those trolls can’t be trusted, and they’d be a better twist villain, since there were already seeds of ulterior motives, as well as them being fully fleshed out characters that have so much potential to be explored. And I think everyone would love seeing how Sven and Kristoff met. But hey,that’s just a theory… A FILM THEORY!!! (couldn’t help my self) Sorry for the long rant on a seven month old video. Great content, found you from Kurtis Conner and decided to check out your vids, and of course they rock! Keep it up, dude!
Frozen III (2027) On February 8, 2023, Disney CEO Bob Iger announced that the franchise would continue as he announced Frozen III was in the works. The sequel was originally set for release in 2026, but at 2024 D23 Expo, Disney Animation announced it was rescheduled to 2027.
It kinda reminds me of me and my 2 year younger brother. In both films that they were not able to be together and then be reunited two times. I just realized that now. Ps: love your show!!!
I personally would’ve mind another Frozen film that is to say that it’ll be Disney Animation Studio’s first ever animated trilogy, but I’m not sure that doing a 4th one at the same time during development isn’t a good idea for my opinion, cause it felt like Disney is dragging this franchise with no creative thought (kinda like what pixar did with Toy Story 4 that it was unnecessary to keep the story going with no proper conclusion) What I think is that Frozen 3 should be its proper end for the series as a perfect trilogy and whatever the second half of the story for Frozen 4 could be adapted as a follow-up series instead, that way it’ll keep going in a different media for expanding the whole Frozen lore rather then another cash grab pointless sequel. Here’s what I think could be the premise for Frozen 3 and it would definitely be about a Love story for Elsa, and maybe add in a Hero and Villain in there as well so that both of em will blend together as a great ending to the film series.
I also think that if Puss in Boots The Last Wish proved anything it’s that there’s nothing wrong with doing more with these franchises just as long as they’re given time and effort to do something fresh and new for people to keep coming back to it.
I was surprised how good it was as a 30 year old who grew out of Shrek since high school.
I like Frozen too much to want any more sequels.
If Frozen 3 isn’t a good “ending”, I vote that yes is a good thing
Two-part movie
@@lexramstudios1386You know what, that may actually happen.
We saw it with Spider Verse
Frozen 3 will have a bad ending
@@PussInBootsTheLastWishFan2003I agree here. Frozen 2 was enough.
@@JaylaisAwesome Wreck It Ralph 2 was better than Frozen 2
I'd love for the 3rd movie to have the main antagonist be a dark reflection of Elsa. Similar background but have her be what kind of person Elsa could've been if Anna's heart never thawed with elements from the original version of the 1st movie. And maybe have the 3rd movie be split into 2 parts and have Frozen 3 act as Part 1 and Frozen 4 act as Part 2
Wonder if Anna and Elsa will meet Jack Frost?
Doubt it but anything is possible, @@raven121_u.
While an interesting concept, I feel like exploring a dark Elsa concept has passed, simply due to the fact that it feels like contradicting/backtracking on her journey rather than showing how far she's come. I like the idea of an evil counterpart, though.
I just love dark counterparts, @@OpticalSorcerer, because I see them as more of a threat to the hero because they know the hero forward and backwards
@@benmunn7593 Since Elsa is the 5th spirit and an embodiment of love, a spirit of darkness could potentially exist as the antagonist. Maybe we'll get a "Frozen" villain song.
I personally hope that Frozen III and IV will have a fully established villain for Elsa and Anna to face. Maybe an evil sorceress similar to Maleficent. I love that Wish has King Magnifico as a fully established villain, I hope more are on the way and I hope to help make more villains with the studio.
With the trend leaning back to making good villains again, I do hope Frozen 3 and 4 gets influenced by this. They need a good villain to face. They're finally done with solving mysteries. Now, it's time for them to face real tangible threats.
And Kristoff will help Anna and Elsa 😁
Would gave me a reason to watch the previous movie. Because after Zootopia and Coco, I grew tired of twist villains.
@@Kristoff-m4cYeah! It would draw us boys in besides Olaf
They announced Frozen 3 months ago along with a Toy Story 5 and Zootopia 2 and now they're announcing a Frozen 4. Disney is clearly just cash cowing in on Frozen popular for as long as they can. Won't be long until there's a live-action Frozen.
Once upon a time already did frozen so I wouldn't be surprised if Disney also milked one out
We never got a Big Hero 6 sequel (Marvel). 🤔
I just wish Encanto can hurry up with their story expansion
It just means Disney found their new franchise to milk right next to Toy Story 😂
I’m guessing they are regretting Frozen 2 and using Frozen 3 as a do over, maybe to undo the second movie and use the fourth as a grand finale.
I’d would be surprised if you’re right
@@manuelorozco7760 What made you say that? Frozen 2 sucked.
@@kbraven7007 Luckily I skipped it anyway
@@kbraven7007agree. I thought I was the only one who had this opinion 😅
A FOURTH?! We gotta at LEAST get the third out first!
Yes , what about the who’s the Elsa’s ancestor that inherited down the frozen powers down to her that’s haunted her when she was a child ?
No!!!!! We don't need another one! I'm sorry to say this but Disney is getting too carried away about things like this. Frozen 3 isn't even out and they don't even know how the people will take to it!
I think James Gunn said it best in an interview on TH-cam there’s no such thing as fatigue the problem is you just want the story done right and sometimes the writing holds up others not so much, and if Frozen is being turned into a saga that’s a great way to expand on the themes already established as a give a more satisfying ending for everyone
I already knew about Frozen 3, but Frozen 4… YES, YES, YES and Heck YEAH. I’m Extremely Excited to see these future films. I hope in one of them brings King Runeard back, like instead of falling to his death he might survived the fall and aged after a long time so he can finally meet his granddaughters.
One thing I will say though is that this is kinda a problem I have with pretty much every franchise these days where there’s really no real sense of finality anyone, I mean y’all remember when Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part 2 was coming out and it was hyped up as “Yeah this is the end of this story no more, done” and also between this, Kung Fu Panda 4, Toy Story and a few other film series it doesn’t seem like there can be only a trilogy anymore. I mean as long as certain things in these franchises are kept fresh I’m for the most part okay with it but still it doesn’t really feel like a story can have a definitive end.
As much as I do miss having the sense of finality, I know how you feel. HP Deathly Hallows Part 2 was the last time I saw a masterful conclusion. I didn’t expect to be blown away by it. I don’t fully oppose Kung Fu Panda 4 because the previous movies are awesome. No pun intended. Toy Story 5 I’ll have to see for myself because I care for Pixar too much to see them mess it up. Other than that, I fully agree with you.
Hey Issac Carlson I heard about this a few days ago but it's official I can't wait for this film plus I think you're an absolutely amazing TH-camr 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
It would be interesting to see how Elsa and Anna can come together to face a genuinely ruthless villain (like the Last Wish), yeah, I know its kind of a simple idea but that's when we could finally see them come together instead of just Elsa's powers being the only thing that saves everyone, this time, both of them need to actually work together to solve the problem, that would be nice to see, and of course, add Christoff into it too!
Now that Elsa isn't in the kingdom. Hun has good opportunity to attack but of course he knows if Anna is in trouble Elsa will return so he also finds something to trap Elsa.
Yes. Also, give Anna powers.
I bet Frozen 3 and 4 will have a perfectly solid and awesome villain who loves the smell of fear.
I'm not seeing a lot of enthusiasm for "Frozen 4" on Reddit, especially since "Frozen 3" hasn't even come out yet, and many people were disappointed with the direction that Jennifer Lee decided to take the story in "Frozen 2". Others wanted to see the return and redemption of Prince Hans from the original "Frozen" movie.
If Hans did come back for F2, I would have been motivated to watch it
OMG FROZEN 3 AND FROZEN 4? thank you disney!
Wait a minute, they already confirmed a third movie earlier this year and it’s not even in production yet as far as I know.
I’ll give them this announcing 2 frozen films is a bold move considering the state Disney is in these films need to be beyond what frozen 2 was (a messy but overall ok sequel)
And also people are going to hate me for saying this but it needs to be said if they want these movies to succeed they have to get out of politics and just tell good stories
I think of it as bold too! And I rather have a good story than lazy politics too! I’m glad I didn’t see the last movie! I was afraid something would happen!
Hold on. Frozen 4? So there's going to be a Frozen 3? I'm calling it now: Anna and Kristoff are going to have kids and be the Tired Millennials with their babies.
The Frozen movies has a beautiful animation and story. At first I was worried when I saw that the 4th movie was already announced and that the story would be lost in trying to create more movies. What you said does give me hope for a great end to the Frozen saga! I loved how Frozen 2 had a main theme of change. Frozen had a theme of self discovery and that love is more powerful than fear. Frozen 2 shows that life and who we are will always continue to change, and yes, it is hard, but sometimes it also leads to a lot of personal growth. Also that the love Anna and Elsa have for each other will always remain even as they take different paths in life.
I'm excited to see what's next for them!
Frozen 3 and Frozen four better be good movies!
Inside out of frozen are completely different and incomparable and opposite in them . Inside out is about forgetting frozen is about remembering what if Olaf was forgotten like BingBong
Give me Inside Out any day
I honestly thought that the series would be great as a trilogy. Way back since 2014. Personally, I hope that this fourth movie is just the third movie split into two, like infinity war, and endgame.
I think Once Upon a Time had some good ideas on how to follow up on the Frozen story. Stuff like Hans and his brothers becoming a threat again, Elsa in an unfamiliar setting/world, and delving more into magic.
the main/true threat could be another ice-magic user, setting up a dramatic final fight
Well since they're making a 3rd one I hope they at least let Anna and Elsa stay with each other the WHOLE time and maybe have them live together again in the end?I'm still wondering if they'll ever give Elsa a love interest? What happened to Kristoff's parents and how did he end up on his own? We NEED to learn more about him, his past, and how he met Sven also him and Anna might start a family after they get married
I won’t count on it! But the important thing I expect is all eyes on both sisters at the same time and not one over the other.
@@manuelorozco7760 Well I DO count on what I said and hopefully we’ll get MORE answers
@@Beachmunks If you’re right that would be nice
Remembering childhood doesn't make you a child to contrary it's how you mature
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You heard Disney is making frozen live action
Don’t they know when to stop?!
Here’s the thing. This feels like it needs to be a trilogy, to me. Movie one: establishes characters and their personalities. Movie two: characters developed and greater mysteries are revealed. Movie three: characters reach their conclusions as all elements from prior movies are resolved. Three movies are more than enough to tell an extended story, and if you go too far you chance spoiling something good. Case in point: Toy Story 4.
Actually frozen 3 and 4 are one story split into two
2 more movies? Okay Elsa better get a girlfriend
Honestly I feel like they milking a cow . Frozen does not need more movies…
As long as its not a live action version im happy!
I was so excited when i saw that announcement
I wonder if their going to do more of a back story on how Frozen is connected to Tangled or if they have more family members somewhere with the same power as Elsa
idk bruh Frozen 2 was overly complicated for no reason and had like three too many songs
honestly i really dont get what the point is, except a cash grab to milk dry
$$$$$$$$$$$$
While I appreciate your optimism and I mean no disrespect to you when I say this, Issac, I think you're letting Disney take you for a ride and blinding yourself to what they're pretty clearly doing. Even people who have no interest in Disney know they've dug themselves into a hole and would recognise Disney announcing two Frozen movies as an attempt to clean up their mess. Like, come on, man...
I'm not sure if you're trying to/ have to stay in their good graces or you're just in denial (not that I blame you) or perhaps you just don't see what most do, but there's no way the announcement of two Frozen films was done just because they care about the story they were telling. I was pretty confident Frozen 2 was a cash grab already, but I had no idea they didn't even know who the voice calling Elsa was until WEEKS before the movie was RELEASED! You know, the WHOLE REASON the sequel even happened! That's such an INSANE level of negligence towards a story they pretend to care so much about, mate.
There's no point pretending otherwise; Disney's lost its magic. Maybe it'll come back, but it's become so blatantly profit driven now that it's just poisoning everything. Disney has never been perfect, not by a long shot, but this is DIRE. And deeply depressing.
I think I know what'll happen in Frozen 3: An evil Northaldrin tries to take over Arendel and Anna and Elsa have to stop him.
And maybe in Frozen 4 Hans and The Duke of Wessleton team up to destroy Anna and Elsa and take over Arendel and Anna, Elsa, Kristoff, Sven, Olaf, The Northaldrins, The Arendelians, Oken, The Spirits, The Trolls, Marshmallow and the mini snowmen, and The Ghosts of King Agnar and Queen Iduna all thave to come together to stop them.
Frozen 2 grew with the audience it was darker, I hope 3 and 4 continue that
I love your optimistic view of Frozen 3 & 4. Because Frozen is such a money-maker, the franchise is just not allowed by Disney to just turn it into a TV series. But you're right when it comes to Frozen as a story is still in good hands.
If Disney allows the Frozen creatives to have all the time they need to develop both movies, even though they will still have their tendencies to change much of the script midway, I believe they can deliver them well.
I hope 3 & 4 will be a good storyline that makes the wait worth it. Like you said, 2 answered some questions but brought up more & left things open for a lot of ideas. If they're done really well then it will be a great thing, & if not then it could make a lot of people turn on the company. People mostly want more original stories, not "live action" remakes. While the fairy tale of the Snow Queen was the original inspiration for Frozen, they did turn it into an original story that used what works in animated fairy tales of the past & I think that is a large part of its success.
Happy thanksgiving!!! Even tho I’m a very new Frozen fan, I’m just as excited to see what stories Arendelle has in store! I loved the difference between the first and second stories, but how it’s still tied together. I hope this continues and seems to be very cared about and in good hands!
Maybe if Riley made a doll of BingBong there's a living body .and can live on on his own . Like Woody. I'm mean When toy dies if playing with the toy in the first is what brought the toy to life. And when people die they literally live on in our memory. But How come Hector didn't go to the great beyond after Coco died
As someone who really loves James Cameron's united vision for his Avatar franchise, I'm willing to give Jennifer Lee the creative room to expand the Frozen-verse.
So apparently Iger has learned nothing from all of his failing and milked to death franchises. It's really sad because I like Frozen and don't want to see it get destroyed by greed and pandering like alle the other IP. Also a bonus tip for the team involved in the 3rd Frozen movie, please decide ahead of time where you want your story to go. The Frozen 2 making of material revealed that they had no idea what to do with Elsa's story and threw something together while most of the movie was already done and it frankly showed. I found this story arc very unsatisfying while watching the movie and have read so much better ideas for Elsa's story resolution written by fans afterwards, so that the official ending falls really flat. Please don't repeat that mistake.
Since Middle School moving into High School I’ve had a massive crushes on both Elsa and Anna and I related to Elsa’s personal struggles and relationship with her sibling
Not to spoil anything but NO. Especially considering they’re still working on Frozen 3. Besides, I’m not trusting Bob Iger with anything
As long as it's a two-parter, I think I'll enjoy it, especially since the Anderson-Lopez team is returning to do the music.
I'm hoping this means that we won't have to wait as long in-between the two.
Exciting for Frozen and Disney's Wish ✨ 2023 movie coming out next week 😊👍 it's an Original movie finally. Jennifer Lee worked on the film too like she did with Frozen and Frozen 2.
I have a theory that maybe in Frozen 3 Hans will come back and destroy Kristoff and Anna's wedding. Also maybe Kristoff's parents are alive somewhere and will come to find him and be at his wedding.
I like Frozen too much to want any more sequels.
honetly, i think frozen 5 might happen and it's just a feeling and hunch, however frozen is starting to feel the avengers franchise with Infinity War and Endgame as the conclusion
I gave up on Frozen although I was spared from the last movie. The original and the Olaf’s Frozen Adventure were good enough for me. I was 21 when the first movie came out ten years ago. And I was so eager to see a new kind of Disney story. I was initially drawn by the voice Star power of Idina & Kristin as Elsa & Anna. As well as Jennifer Lee’s promotion to co-director to go with her work on the script. I had no idea of the heartfelt story or the phenomenon it would be become. Before the 2nd movie came out I was intrigued by Elsa finding out her powers. Sadly, Into The Unknown or The Next Right Thing didn’t make me feel motivated to hear more or get me hyped for the movie. I’ll be 31 in February. I’m reluctant right now to get back into the Frozen spirit. But if it is a two part finale, I wish Jennifer Lee and her associates at Disney Animation the best. I’m still not ready to accept Anna as Queen and like you Issac, I grieve what could have been Elsa fully adjusting as a leader to Arendelle.
Can you please do a video on Elemental considering the fact it went from a failure into a success?
Do this for httyd how all species and populations of dragons returned to the hidden world and lived under toothlesses rule
Would be a good opportunity to reuse the Ice Queen from Once Upon A Time
Wait what? Frozen 3 hasn’t even come out yet
Look I love Frozen. I am so excited for more Frozen content. There is nothing wrong with more of what someone loves.
I may have thought that the ultimate question is how did Queen Iduna know about her mother’s lullaby to her children ? Who raised Elsa before Elsa was born cursed ?
this move reeks of desperation
Well as long there's good story material to tell, I'm all for it. Others think that Disney did milk some franchise too much, to which I say there are already 4 shrek movies (The fifth one is in progress) , 3 KFP movies (4th one is coming) & 3 Madagascar movies (4th is coming)... The studio isn't the only studio that make sequels after sequels.
I think ppl would like to watch movies with good story telling, not the mess of everything combined into one and try to cash on it, as long the team working the project is controlling the plot, it shouldn't be a problem
as someone who has been a frozen fan for 11 years now, I like the idea of a frozen 3 and 4. I had many unanswered questions, some of which you said in this video. I would also like to see a new villian perhaps, or maybe a strain on Anna and Elsa's relationship as they are now carrying out new lives
I would love to see two more Frozen movies. The thought of the music alone really excites me.❤️
I knew Frozen 3 was being made call it a feeling but Frozen 4 what I can't wait to see them oh what happens if Kristoff mom and dad are alive even better if Anna and Elsa's mom and dad are actually still alive oh man I can't wait
If sporks are good enough bodies for imaginary friends .if Riley made doll of BingBong he'd love on in his own body to live his own life like Woody. But how Did Stinky Pete come to life if he was never opened
You know I wasn't sure at first if I thought it was a good thing or not that there would be a Frozen 4. I had the same worries you mentioned at the beginning of the video. But you've managed to convince me that this is gonna be great and now I'm so excited and looking forward to them! I hope we finally get to see Kristof's backstory, meaning what happened to him and his parents before where we see him with the ice harvesters. Where is he from? Did the trolls erase his memory of the sad events so that he would be happier? I wouldn't put it past them. How did he meet Sphven (sorry I don't know how to spell it)? I need answers!
Here is what I think should happen- I think that a new Frozen saga should focus on the development of TECHNOLOGY in the world of Arendelle, and the clash between magic and technology. I can imagine that not every person in the world is totally accepting of magic as something good for the world, and instead, they would believe that only technology is reliable. I would like to see Elsa facing against an antagonist who is somewhat like Tony Stark.
Frozen is set in the 1800s; why on earth would it make sense to bring "technology" into the mix?
I can picture that more with Encanto
@@manuelorozco7760 Given Encanto is set in the 1950s, it's definitely more plausible, but even then... It's ironic that the OP mentioned Tony Stark, because this plot idea sounds less like a Disney movie and more like a Marvel one. It's not a bad idea, by any means; just not for a Disney movie set in the 1800s lol
@@EdalynSkywalker66 Right
I just hope they cover other people gifted with magic. I know Elsa has magic for special reasons but it would be interesting to see Elsa finally find people like her. Maybe they'll take Once Upon a Time's approach and introduce an ancestor who also has magic.
Maybe I just want to see Elsa get into a Magic battle, but I think it'd be cool to see other forms of magic in that universe.
I’m sorry but I just couldn’t get into Frozen 2 like I wanted it so well and it was so disappointing. The songs weren’t as good or felt like imitations of the original movie, the plot felt directionless, and most of the characters were forgotten and had nothing to do the whole movie. I fell like the outtakes from the film would have improved it vastly.
So I guess what I was saying is I think it would be great for the third and fourth movie to have that direction that was lacking in the previous film and actually focus on the characters it has before introducing even more to do nothing with them too.
I would actually really love if frozen III focused a bit more on kristoff and his background, because like you said he seemed to have been pushed to the back in the second movie, he seemed more of anna's puppy than her fiance lol.
I wanna know why Kristoff wasn't searched for when the trolls took him in along with Sven like is he an orphan? Was one of the Ice breakers his dad or brother??Why didn't any of those men look for him when he disappeared????
Also doesn't Olaf realize there's absolutely no one like him? Doesn't he ever feel lonely being the only one of his kind?
Am I the only one wondering about that ?😂
Thanks for the posititivy around the announcement of Frozen 4. I'm a major Frozen fan and never felt the second movie was a "cash grab." Although it has problems in the writing, it is an exceptional, even profound, movie that does what a good sequel is supposed to do. But this go round, knowing Disney's behind the scenes situation, a quick Frozen 4 after Frozen 3 did raise my concerns that the characters and story will not be handled correctly. You've soothed my concerns some, along with the knowledge of how much Jenn Lee and the creatives love these characters. Frankly, I've long thought Frozen 2 should have been in two parts. That would have helped with some of the problems w/ the writing. There is certainly room for more stories, especially given the rushed, cobbled ending to Frozen 2 which, as much as I love and admire it, didn't give it a completely satisfactory landing. Perhaps a 2 and 3 indicates they learned a lesson from the problems with 2 and these final movies will conclude everything perfectly. If you or anyone else would be interested in my in-depth thoughts on Frozen 1 and 2, please consider reading my fully illustrated blogs beginning with "Why Everyone Is Wrong About Frozen: The Movie No One Ever Sees" here -- and thanx for upbeat words on my favorite animated series and characters! minorprofitpress.com/2019/02/20/why-everyone-is-wrong-about-frozen-part-one-the-movie-no-one-ever-sees/
On some level I guess I can understand the excitement I am planning on checking out these films most because I do hope they expand the world building. I am also glad you felt the same way I did with frozen ii as while I didn’t hate it, it did feel incomplete and that’s what I hope the next few films will bring.
Personally, if a third and fourth are too happen. Well, first of all, I hope they have a justified reason for why they are doing both 3 AND 4, secondly, they have a villain this time, and thirdly, that the film ends with Anna and Elsa BOTH as queen of Arrendelle. Not only truly uniting Mankind and Nature, with Arrendelle perhaps being turned into a Medieval version of Earth-838 from Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, but also showing the sisters are finally properly unified. Not to mention breaking the traditions of monarchy.
I also think they should introduce another elemental human like Elsa who could perhaps be her love interest, as well either retcon or explain better the whole "Spirits/5th Spirit" stuff.
Finally, make it a crossover with Tangled because Rapunzel is Anna and Elsas cousin, and I refuse to believe otherwise. Lol.
EDIT: Also, give Anna powers.
I too didn't originaly like the direction Frozen 2 took, only to then change my mind last year, thanks to other opinions and points of view on the movie. It still has many flaws, but it's not senseless and it does build on the first movie, as a sort of "Part 2" where what happened in the first movie is both relevant to the characters arc and has a deep thematical correlation and parallelism with what happens in the sequel.
If they are announcing both movies so soon, it's because they are building something big, as Iger himself said that Lee and co. are working on two stories, and whatever people likes it or not, Frozen is something special, Disney needs to make it an event for audiences.
My main hope would be seeing the same approach used in Frozen 2: expand things relating them to what we know in order to deepen what we saw before, in order for things to remain personal.
With how F2 ended, there is A LOT they can explore having both sisters in their new roles as leaders, but it also means they can allow the story to explore other characters, instead of risking what F2 did with Kristoff, for example, having to rewrite and shorten his character arc in a story that had more to do with Anna and Elsa relationship with their parents. Which also means they can actually explore new places and introducing new faces without the danger of rushing everything or making other characters too secondary.
Sincerly, I'm quite excited, I can't wait to know more about these two movies.
Pretty cool jacket isaac! Rocking that look! 😎😎😎😎😎
Of course Frozen 4 is a good thing!
In fact it's not just a good thing it's an absolutely Amazing thing!
Don’t count on it. They still have Frozen 3 to do, remember?
I think seeing Anna and Kristoff get married and have a child/children would be interesting, imagine Elsa an Aunt to a little boy with Anna's personality. Xxx
Honestly I’m glad to hear that there will be a fourth, there are just WAY too many threads to tie up in just one movie. And if they do the plot that’s been heavily theorized and even hinted by the creators, it would be perfect as a two parter.
So what if the first part shows Hans returning (something they have mentioned really wanting to happen) and he gets his redemption. He’s trying to expose the trolls but no one believes him. The plot builds and the first part of the story could leave with the main antagonist (the trolls) putting the plan into motion, and our heroes gearing up with a way to stop them. But then the second part begins with a flashback, and we finally learn Kristoff and Sven’s backstory. We see them grow up with the trolls, etc.
I dunno what the rest of the details would be, but the finale should be the wedding no matter what they decide on doing. But I think there’s a good chance at it being about Kristoff, giving Hans a redemption arc, and getting to the bottom of what the trolls are really up to. Those trolls can’t be trusted, and they’d be a better twist villain, since there were already seeds of ulterior motives, as well as them being fully fleshed out characters that have so much potential to be explored. And I think everyone would love seeing how Sven and Kristoff met.
But hey,that’s just a theory… A FILM THEORY!!! (couldn’t help my self)
Sorry for the long rant on a seven month old video. Great content, found you from Kurtis Conner and decided to check out your vids, and of course they rock! Keep it up, dude!
THEY HAVEN’T MADE THE THIRD ONE YET WILL THEY EVER QUIT!!! 🤬
No, it is NOT a good thing. We need original movies for once, like Wish.
AGREE!
I wouldn’t mind a bit of both franchises and original stories
Frozen III (2027)
On February 8, 2023, Disney CEO Bob Iger announced that the franchise would continue as he announced Frozen III was in the works. The sequel was originally set for release in 2026, but at 2024 D23 Expo, Disney Animation announced it was rescheduled to 2027.
Have you ever thought about doing a video on what if Anna had fire powers and how exactly this would affect both frozen movies?
It kinda reminds me of me and my 2 year younger brother. In both films that they were not able to be together and then be reunited two times. I just realized that now. Ps: love your show!!!
Haha idina posted something about frozen 4… and I was like oh babes this is insane and I’m so glad that several generations will have this iconic saga
Is elsa first super like the incredible are
Isaac Carlson I like to see a video theory about Jack Frost and frozen 3
Let me guess. Elsa will be a lesbian and Olaf is a non-binary.
Snowflake
I really hope we can get a good villain in frozen 3 and 4 and a good villain songs
Disney is NOT the same as it used to be. Sinister company now. You need to grow up and realize this.
I'd only wish that they'd make a movie out of 'Dangerous Secrets'....
Which came out yesterday and I want you to make a fury about the main villain of wish being the magic mirror
I personally would’ve mind another Frozen film that is to say that it’ll be Disney Animation Studio’s first ever animated trilogy, but I’m not sure that doing a 4th one at the same time during development isn’t a good idea for my opinion, cause it felt like Disney is dragging this franchise with no creative thought (kinda like what pixar did with Toy Story 4 that it was unnecessary to keep the story going with no proper conclusion) What I think is that Frozen 3 should be its proper end for the series as a perfect trilogy and whatever the second half of the story for Frozen 4 could be adapted as a follow-up series instead, that way it’ll keep going in a different media for expanding the whole Frozen lore rather then another cash grab pointless sequel. Here’s what I think could be the premise for Frozen 3 and it would definitely be about a Love story for Elsa, and maybe add in a Hero and Villain in there as well so that both of em will blend together as a great ending to the film series.
We had 3rd Frozen? When?
I didn’t even know there was a Frozen 3 so wow
Yeah we haven’t even gotten it and they have just announced a fourth one
I am not a fan of frozen but when I saw the vids title I thought what happened to the 3rd. I legitimately thought they skipped the number 3