Imagine being a head coach and getting fired after a 9-8 season but seeing Joe Judge keep his job after finishing 4-13 and calling a QB sneak on a 3rd and 9 from his own team’s territory.
@@bobduato4404 are you serious…? Even if you don’t call the plays, if you’re the head coach you can veto a sneak in your own red zone. There’s no excuses, it happened under him and his head should roll because of it.
It was mentioned that the GM has been around since the year 2000 (22 years). That is also the last time the Dolphins have won a Playoff Game. Getting fired from the Dolphins is probably the best thing to happen to Brian Flores. He should get another job either this off-season or next.
Flores as a head coach one of his jobs is to hire a competent staff around him and they've been artocious for 3 years. We went through like 4 oline coaches 3 offensive coordinators and then a duo coordinator crap. That's why he got fired, he does everything else well.
I’m so pissed. Being a dolphins fan is the worst thing in the world. I swear they purposely make decisions to stay a mediocre team every off season. I can’t stand our geriatric owner. He needs to sell the team or fire the GM
@@ThatGhettoPenguin Yeah that’s true, but man it’s just so frustrating year after year with the bad decision making. Especially when we had an awesome young team going with an equally awesome young coach. I just don’t get how grown ass men can fight like little girls and put the drama before winning games. Tom Brady and bill hated each other for years but they still got the job done, I’m not a fan of them by ant means but they set a good example of maturity.
@@zachurystrawcutter2283 we had mcvay Shanahan and lefluer all on the same staff and opted to let them all walk for Jay Gruden I feel your pain brotha. As a DC transplant who started following basketball in Miami when I moved here we gotta remember to thank god every day for Erik Spoelstra
Not even a dolphins fan, but Flores was the best thing to happen to the dolphins in the last decade. Bad move for the dolphins, but happy for Flores since he can only upgrade from here.
Dolphins fucked up bad man. Flores is a damn good coach. He took that 2019 team of practice squad players to 5 wins. Then 2 winning seasons after that. They fucked up bad. Chris Grier is the problem, not Flores.
To play the contrarian, 4 OCs 4 OL coaches in 3 seasons, it seems either he has no vision on what he wants on Off, he’s terrible at picking his assistants or he’s terrible to work with but more likely Ross is fool
Sparano did technically last longer than 3 seasons, but he got fired with a few games left to go in his 4th season. Johnson coached for 4 full seasons (1996-99) before retiring, but Dave Wannstedt is apparently the 2nd-longest-tenured post-Shula Dolphins coach -- he held the job for 4 seasons from 2000-03, then got fired midway through the his 5th season in 2004.
I am 25 years old and have been a dolphins fan thanks to my dad my entire life. I have always been loyal and committed to this franchise from our countless losing seasons, the 1-15 year, to the glimpses of light and hope I saw with Flores. Yesterday was the first day as a fan I felt completely betrayed by this organization. 18 different quarterbacks, 10 different coaches, and finally when I feel like the team is in the right direction one of the biggest let downs possible occurs. I wish Flores best of luck, I know he will be a success in this league.
Grier has been in Miami for 21 years (dogcrap the entire time) then they go above 500 and fire the guy who is clearly changing the culture for the better!!
Miami hasn't had two consecutive winning seasons in the past 20 years except the last two seasons with Flores. 10-6 and the 9-8 and he gets fired? Especially when someone like Joe judge can win 4 games a year and be safe. So the coach has back to back winning seasons and he gets canned over the gm who picked one legged tua over Justin Herbert? The gm who has had 20 years to put something together and has failed? Good move Miami shooting for 4th place in the division next year?
I think the answer can be found in the past. Do you remember when the first rumors came out about Watson being traded to Miami? Coach Flores made the statement that the Dolphins were only going to have players of character on the team. I just heard Florio say that the owner wants Watson. Two plus two....
@@dirtroadscholar 100% agree, especially with the pending RB situation, I'll always root for the dolphins (I personally think Stephen Ross is a terrible owner and the only thing he could do to make me jump ship is hire Harbaugh) but no doubt Flores will have success wherever he ends up and he definitely deserves it. Hopefully Ross actually had someone in mind when he made this decision
If the Dolphins suck at 9-8, then so do the Colts. Maybe Frank Reich should be fired as well, after that terrible loss to the Jaguars ending the Colts postseason hopes...
@@jayfromcali7091 I definitely had him in mind but dont remember the last record he had with the lions. Lovie sticks out bc he was the first coach with a winning season to be fired
Heard at the start of the season that Flo was the reason we couldn't get any OCs for the job and that is why there were 2 co OCs promoted up. If true the dismissal does make sense. Wasn't Jim Caldwell brought to Miami by Flo as well briefly and decided to retire after only a couple weeks?
This would make sense, it has also been said that his coaching style had started to annoy some players. Similar to Matt Patricia in Detroit.. God bless football
Adam Gase to the Jets worked so lovingly for the Jets. Flores to the Giants should yield “hmm, huh” the same results. New York will love Flores’ press conferences.
Stephen Ross is the problem. As an owner, he is never there, doesnt live there. The front office is another or the main problem. They conspired against this man. Shameful.
Been a fins fan my whole life. We haven't been the same since Marino retired. I felt we finally had hope when they hired Flores, even though their drafts are horrendous.(Mel Kiper could pick better) Guess I'll start rooting for the Jags or Lions.
If their drafts are terrible the GM NOT the head coach is to Blame The head coach is to get the most out of what the gm brings in The gm screwed up the organization while the head coach is trying to save the organization
What will be bad is whether a good coaching candidate will be willing to go there. If you're taking your first shot at big time do you really wanna go to a place that fired a guy who was winning? It sends a message that you'll always be second fiddle, even if you succeed. Just a weird decision for the team to make. Grier better do some amazing things after this, but his track record so far makes that future look bleak. But Miami seems to be a wasted potential team. Consider Marino only made one Superbowl in all those years.
It started with the rumors that Herbert was Flores’ guy, and that Tua was an ownership decision. Grier has been there for 20 plus years...how many of those 20 seasons have we (the Dolphins) been good? Also...Ross is a Michigan guy. Wait for the Harbough rumors to start flying.
Uhm very few seasons, like the most memeorable thing about the Dolphins since Marino has been the Wildcat offense and then upsetting the Patriots a couple of time
To be fair the fan base was split on Caldwell, and the media turned on him. If we actually had success afterwards it wouldn't have been so bad, but to say 9-7 is unacceptable and then give us fat Patricia was a kick to the nuts.
Caldwell actually made the playoffs twice in only 4 years and that’s a huge difference. Still Flores was a good coach but I wouldn’t compare the situations
@@nestodagoat Caldwell was an average coach who could win games he was supposed to, but couldn't beat the teams that were better. He was 4-23 against teams that finished the season over .500 and 27-5 against teams that finished under. Everyone associates Caldwell with being great because Patricia was bad, but they can both not be a great fit. He's a great man, but was an average coach who couldn't manage games.
@@phillipalexander7862 ok so do u also blame Tua for them starting 1-7? Cause it can't be both ways. I agree Tua wasn't mind blowing but he had better games in there than people think
I took my fanhood to Our Old QB ( Ryan Tannenhill ) it does look like a bandwagon but ive always supported Ryan when he was in Miami so ill still support him after he was booted from the team.
Best up and coming coach in the league. This Chris Grier guy must be great. Finally hires a coach that helps them win and he's ahhttta here!! Clown show
Miami did the right thing. Only people who are clueless are questioning the decision. 1. Flores couldn’t hire a competent coaching staff 2. Flores was not supportive of Tua 3. Poor coaching led to a 1-7 start 4. Flores was in charge of the 53 man roster, it was his decision to get rid of Karras and Flowers and start Jesse Davis and Austin Jackson. Also his decision to get rid of Van Noy. 5. Bad game day decisions to constantly have 2 of their better pass catchers on the sideline (Gesicki and Hollins). In a must win road game vs Tenn in bad weather he had Tua throw instead of hand it off to Duke who was having a good game. In the end, the biggest issues were his inability to have a competent staff and the push by him for Grier to get rid of Tua and trade for Watson who neither Ross nor Grier wanted.
Thank you. This season was DISASTROUS. People see 9-8 and jump on the Flores bandwagon... real fans understand the disappointment. Doug Pederson might be an interesting hire.
As a Dolphins fan I am depressed but there’s still bits of me that want to have a hope but there’s absolutely nothing this organization has showed me that it will happen
I am a life long Dolphins fan. They are a Mickey Mouse organization. Front office is absolute trash and disappointing. Brian Flores was one of the better things to happen to the team. I am suspect on Grier still not a fan of him
Wtf you mean suspect? It's been 2 decades. This is why people respect dolphins fans just as little as they respect the organization what're you even on about right now? suspect?
Wtf you mean suspect? It's been 2 decades. This is why people respect dolphins fans just as little as they respect the organization what're you even on about right now? suspect?
@@ljvue NFC North has been pretty weak as well. Packers have mostly been the only consistently good team for the past 3 decades. Won more Super Bowls (2) than any of the other three teams within the same stretch IMO, both divisions are weak sauce
Flores is a good coach but the team went 0-7 when the Deshaun Watson trade talks were going on. Flores screwed up there. He messed up the team chemistry by giving his starting QB Tua only tepid support while the trade rumors were flying.
@@kingSpanckyNaotala his son is ass and is doing most of thr play callimg now i like Patricia but hes in thr front office for some reason. Flores is a good coach not his fault the GM took Tua over Hurbert.
As a Patriots fan, I lost twice this season to the Dolphins, so this works in my favor. For Dolphins fans who might not like Flores, he's really good and some other team is going to do well.
I think Brian Flores would be a perfect fit for the Jacksonville jaguars! He would have Trevor Lawrence and a great defense and a lot of opportunity to build a great franchise for years to come I'm a Chiefs fan so I know what great franchises look like but it takes patience and commitment by ownership. That would be the move of the year in the NFL in my opinion!
Well it has a potential of being a great defense they did a great number on the colts last game of the year stop Jonathan Taylor put a lot of pressure on Wentz with Flores coming in he can improve on that and have a great quarterback and be a playoff team. I'm just saying. 😁
Turns out that Brian Flores wanted Justin Herbert! The GM got tua instead! And he got let go instead of the GM! That GM has been there for a long time and needs to be completely and utterly kicked out of the NFL! Dolphins front office are clueless and their fans are going to pay dearly for it! So yes Jacksonville would be a hell of a lot better off with a coach like Brian Flores and he would then inherit a really good quarterback!
@@gregkuruvilla4280 Jacksonville would be better off obviously. Flores would not. I'd also be a little more careful vetting your information sources. That's not an uncontested story.
Everyone wants to talk about his having a winning season but they were 10-6 last year and everyone was picking them to be a playoff team this season and they came out 1-7. The decision was probably made back in October when they lost to the Jags and Falcons back to back.
After the 1-7 start, sure, it looked like he was heading for a justifiable firing. But then turning around and winning 8 of 9 is incredibly impressive no matter who you play. That the team didn't just give up and pack it in at 1-7 is a testament to him as a coach. They won all 8 games by at least a touchdown. Zac Taylor was 6-25-1 after two seasons and Kyle Shanahan was 10-22. Being too trigger happy with coaches is a great way to stay in the basement, even when you might be close to climbing out of it.
@5:57 Props to Pat and the show for singing “Get the funk out my face” Haha They were Referencing an old school song by the Brothers Johnson from the 70’s!
Allegedly, he had a bad relationship with a ton of the coaching staff. It was so bad that we were forced to hire a high school coach as out offensive line coach. No one wanted to work for him.
He was 24-25 in three seasons. Coaches have been fired with better records. It’s not some pearl clutching catastrophe. He’s an average head coach, and average head coaches, for better or worse, usually get second chances in the league.
I see that foot shuffle Pat lol. Man was groovin haha…love your show (PS would you consider collaborating Something with Pittsburgh Dad, that’ll be helluva yinzer show 😂🤣)
Wth is wrong with the dolphins organization?! You lead your team to winning 8 out of 9 games after being one of the worst teams for yeeeearrrsss. Well the dolphins are done.
Yes they are going all in with Tua but are we really surprised? Tua was the best thing since sliced bread at Alabama, threw a bomb to come from behind and win a National Championship (ehhe). Brian Floures is not the second coming of Dan Marino ! They spent a big pile of money on Tua and he has an awesome attitude..
Yeah should have been the other way around. The GM should been fired and coach should have stayed. Don’t forget, he took Tua over Herbert 😂 All these so called “experts” on espn said Tua was better too but I always wanted Herbie and I’m glad we got him -Charger Fan ⚡️
Man, this is such a bonehead move by the Dolphins and I am glad that they are getting called out over it. The fact that Brian Flores was able to lead that mediocre franchise to back-to-back winning seasons was astonishing. I guarantee you Flores will be at the top of a lot of coaching vacancies. Not gonna lie, I’m a Packers fan and I’d be mortified if he got hired by the Vikings or Bears. I think you give him at least a decent franchise, he could turn them into a SB contender.
Was waiting for Pat and the boys to talk about this. As a Pats fan, I am stoked he is out of the division! Because as a football fan, I think he is a great coach and a great leader. I hope he takes over for Billy B someday up here in Foxboro. Love B-Flo he was well-liked in New England.
Getting rid of a winning coach isn't going to change the product Miami's front office puts on the field. Flores helped turn that locker room around, damn shame he couldn't have done the same for our front office. We haven't had a good OLine since 2010 and haven't had a slightly below average one since 2013 and that has NOTHING to do with Flores...
@@kevinstewart8054 If you can't protect your QB, how the fk do you expect him to develop? Between the coaching and OLine, we absolutely CRIPPLED Tannehill both developmentally and physically. Apparently, Ross and Grier are determined to do the same to Tua. Damn shame too because he's not a bad QB, best we've had for awhile.
He's more than welcome back at my pat's. I was t happy with Matt coming back but Flores I'd take back. I doubt he'll have an issue getting a new HC job.
Being a black coach not named Tomlin has been a tough business as of late… Flores’ name was coming up in coach of the year talks just a few weeks ago… hope he’s stays clear of New York… those squads don’t deserve him, Giants or Jets.
Imagine being a head coach and getting fired after a 9-8 season but seeing Joe Judge keep his job after finishing 4-13 and calling a QB sneak on a 3rd and 9 from his own team’s territory.
I don't think judge calls the plays to be fair
And going 10-6 the year before.
@@ulikemykungfu3995 no playoffs = no job
What the hell does 9-8 get you?
@@bobduato4404 are you serious…? Even if you don’t call the plays, if you’re the head coach you can veto a sneak in your own red zone.
There’s no excuses, it happened under him and his head should roll because of it.
It was mentioned that the GM has been around since the year 2000 (22 years). That is also the last time the Dolphins have won a Playoff Game. Getting fired from the Dolphins is probably the best thing to happen to Brian Flores. He should get another job either this off-season or next.
22 years as the GM and he has never found them a franchise QB? Yeah, sure... the coach is the problem!
@@SMH1776 He’s only been the GM since 2015 I think but yeah he’s still pretty terrible at it
@@RicoFrank69 Yeah but he works for the dolphins since 2000. He held different positions in the scouting department before becoming the GM.
Gotta face it as a Dolphins fan. These are things bad organizations do. We’re just a bad organization. Unbelievable 🤦🏾♂️
Sad but true... go dolphins
Do you enjoy not making the playoffs..? Why keep a coach who doesn't? Pull your head out of the sand.
@@TOAST1MIA foh
It sounds like a mutual decision. Flores wanted to Tua out and they wanted Tua.
Flores as a head coach one of his jobs is to hire a competent staff around him and they've been artocious for 3 years. We went through like 4 oline coaches 3 offensive coordinators and then a duo coordinator crap. That's why he got fired, he does everything else well.
I think Flores would be a good fit for Chicago
Harbaugh
Bruh!!! Thats what im saying. This is crazy. Hey how do the fans fire an owner?
Lovin it
@@joshuafichtelman2605 quit watching games and buying stuff. Money talks, everything else is just noise.
You're idea makes too much sense for Bears ownership.
As a Giants fan it’s clear the Dolphins don’t realize how hard hiring a good head coach is
I must be the only Giants fan left who likes Joe Judge.
As a lions fan i dont think you know how easy it is to hire a coach, they just might not be good
Username checks out.
As a falcons fan I can agree
Just because you have the worst coach in the NFL doesn't mean the Dolphins don't know what they're doing.
When Patrick and the crew start their singing, AJ looks at the camera like he’s taking in a Three Stooges episode. Love it
AJ lights up a cigar during Pat and crews moments lol
I’m so pissed. Being a dolphins fan is the worst thing in the world. I swear they purposely make decisions to stay a mediocre team every off season. I can’t stand our geriatric owner. He needs to sell the team or fire the GM
I’ll gladly trade you Dan synder for that Ross fellow. Remember it can always be worse
@@ThatGhettoPenguin Yeah that’s true, but man it’s just so frustrating year after year with the bad decision making. Especially when we had an awesome young team going with an equally awesome young coach. I just don’t get how grown ass men can fight like little girls and put the drama before winning games. Tom Brady and bill hated each other for years but they still got the job done, I’m not a fan of them by ant means but they set a good example of maturity.
As a lions fan I'd send you the meme from pirates of the Caribbean "first time?"
@@zachurystrawcutter2283 we had mcvay Shanahan and lefluer all on the same staff and opted to let them all walk for Jay Gruden I feel your pain brotha. As a DC transplant who started following basketball in Miami when I moved here we gotta remember to thank god every day for Erik Spoelstra
As a Vikings fan who is curious about the possibility of hiring Flores, what are his qualities?
Not even a dolphins fan, but Flores was the best thing to happen to the dolphins in the last decade. Bad move for the dolphins, but happy for Flores since he can only upgrade from here.
Or downgrade
Dolphins fucked up bad man. Flores is a damn good coach. He took that 2019 team of practice squad players to 5 wins. Then 2 winning seasons after that. They fucked up bad. Chris Grier is the problem, not Flores.
To play the contrarian, 4 OCs 4 OL coaches in 3 seasons, it seems either he has no vision on what he wants on Off, he’s terrible at picking his assistants or he’s terrible to work with but more likely Ross is fool
@@tredaviousbowser7931 lol i was gonna say like the Jags and Lions still exist
@@Ryan-ys2bq That's a good point too.
Dolphins haven't had a coach last longer than 3 seasons in 16 years.
There's a reason they don't have nice things.
Shula? Was the last one
@@krackergrit jimmy johnson
Sparano coached for 4 yrs,
Oh but don’t worry, the next coach will certainly be long term! This has been repeated about a million times
Sparano did technically last longer than 3 seasons, but he got fired with a few games left to go in his 4th season. Johnson coached for 4 full seasons (1996-99) before retiring, but Dave Wannstedt is apparently the 2nd-longest-tenured post-Shula Dolphins coach -- he held the job for 4 seasons from 2000-03, then got fired midway through the his 5th season in 2004.
I am 25 years old and have been a dolphins fan thanks to my dad my entire life. I have always been loyal and committed to this franchise from our countless losing seasons, the 1-15 year, to the glimpses of light and hope I saw with Flores. Yesterday was the first day as a fan I felt completely betrayed by this organization. 18 different quarterbacks, 10 different coaches, and finally when I feel like the team is in the right direction one of the biggest let downs possible occurs. I wish Flores best of luck, I know he will be a success in this league.
Grier has been in Miami for 21 years (dogcrap the entire time) then they go above 500 and fire the guy who is clearly changing the culture for the better!!
Its clear. They love to lose.
If i would be a fan i would inta drop them fka that
Wasn’t better with Wayne…Coach coached
Miami hasn't had two consecutive winning seasons in the past 20 years except the last two seasons with Flores. 10-6 and the 9-8 and he gets fired? Especially when someone like Joe judge can win 4 games a year and be safe. So the coach has back to back winning seasons and he gets canned over the gm who picked one legged tua over Justin Herbert? The gm who has had 20 years to put something together and has failed? Good move Miami shooting for 4th place in the division next year?
Is it really fair to call it winning seasons when they fail to reach the postseason?
@@RYMAN1321 I'ld say so. Some years 7-9 teams make the playoffs cause of a crap division while other years 10-6 or even 11-5 teams miss the playoffs.
I think the answer can be found in the past. Do you remember when the first rumors came out about Watson being traded to Miami? Coach Flores made the statement that the Dolphins were only going to have players of character on the team. I just heard Florio say that the owner wants Watson. Two plus two....
What’s odd is I’ve only seen the opposite said , I’ve only seen people say Flores wanted Watson but the owners wanted to keep tua
This is opposite. Flores mocked and degraded Tua. He wanted him out. Even going after his faith.
@@Thefailcycle at the podium Flores was in Tua’s corner.
Equals 5 says George Orwell.
@@blakeharris58 false. He’s the one who never wanted him.
A promising coach let go, yet the abysmal GM stays.
I’ve never rooted for a player or coach after leaving my team, but as long as Flores doesn’t go to a close rival, I’ll be rooting for him to succeed
Amen, dude deserves better, hope he knows how much all the dolphins fans already miss him
As a pata fan I hope he comes back and takes over after bill retires.
@@dirtroadscholar 100% agree, especially with the pending RB situation, I'll always root for the dolphins (I personally think Stephen Ross is a terrible owner and the only thing he could do to make me jump ship is hire Harbaugh) but no doubt Flores will have success wherever he ends up and he definitely deserves it. Hopefully Ross actually had someone in mind when he made this decision
I totally agree
@@etheu9sby292 that would be awesome. Flores or Vrabel to continue the legacy
If the Dolphins suck at 9-8, then so do the Colts. Maybe Frank Reich should be fired as well, after that terrible loss to the Jaguars ending the Colts postseason hopes...
Broncos should definitely try to hire this guy
I was shocked when I heard this, he did good
literally the most perfect fit in history
I heard they reached out to KC to interview Bienemy. That would be better
Broncos gonna be GOOD next year frfr
@@wdubduece8913 why would he be better? What has he done? He doesn’t even call the plays and he has Patrick Mahomes…
This just reminds me of the bears firing lovie Smith after a 10-6 season because he missed the playoffs.
Lovie was a flash in the pan,has done squat since then,
Don't forget Caldwell.... He's been the best thing in Detroit since Motown
@@brando7266 Same for every Chicago coach since then. One okay or good season then several awful ones.
@@jayfromcali7091 I definitely had him in mind but dont remember the last record he had with the lions. Lovie sticks out bc he was the first coach with a winning season to be fired
@@jayfromcali7091 mcdc Will be good over next couple years detroits gotta just trust him
Always smile at the nerd jock tone Pat takes with Rap. Flows naturally.
Flores to Jags please
That would be an intriguing landing spot!
Black guys don't go to strip clubs. Plus one. He's black is another plus.
@@miketheyunggod2534 It's not about going or not going to strip clubs, it's about getting caught
Jags are apparently interviewing Bill O’Brien 🤦♂️
Texans please!
Heard at the start of the season that Flo was the reason we couldn't get any OCs for the job and that is why there were 2 co OCs promoted up. If true the dismissal does make sense. Wasn't Jim Caldwell brought to Miami by Flo as well briefly and decided to retire after only a couple weeks?
This would make sense, it has also been said that his coaching style had started to annoy some players. Similar to Matt Patricia in Detroit.. God bless football
@@Peewyld unlike in Detroit, it actually worked, 2 straight winning seasons
Cant rule with an iron fist unless u got rings. Players are not the same. They have the accountability of 5 year olds.
@@Peewyld that’s cap a lot of the players came out in defense of Flo. That sounds like insider bs just to paint Flo in a way to justify the move
Praying for the coach in his future endeavors, at the very least hes gonna get a job somewhere being a HC
If the Giants were smart, they would fire Joey Big Balls immediately and give Flores a call tomorrow.
Adam Gase to the Jets worked so lovingly for the Jets. Flores to the Giants should yield “hmm, huh” the same results. New York will love Flores’ press conferences.
They want Jim harbough
Your prayers include NFL head coaching vacancies?
Hairball for head coach of Jags
"Get the FUNK outta my face!!!" Thank you Pat McAfee and shout out to the Brothers Johnson's old-school Jam!!
Stephen Ross is the problem. As an owner, he is never there, doesnt live there. The front office is another or the main problem. They conspired against this man. Shameful.
As an older guy, I miss Joe Robbie.
This is 1 of my favorite shows on TH-cam he keeps it real unbiased and funny asf too
Been a fins fan my whole life. We haven't been the same since Marino retired. I felt we finally had hope when they hired Flores, even though their drafts are horrendous.(Mel Kiper could pick better) Guess I'll start rooting for the Jags or Lions.
If their drafts are terrible the GM NOT the head coach is to Blame
The head coach is to get the most out of what the gm brings in
The gm screwed up the organization while the head coach is trying to save the organization
What will be bad is whether a good coaching candidate will be willing to go there. If you're taking your first shot at big time do you really wanna go to a place that fired a guy who was winning? It sends a message that you'll always be second fiddle, even if you succeed. Just a weird decision for the team to make. Grier better do some amazing things after this, but his track record so far makes that future look bleak. But Miami seems to be a wasted potential team. Consider Marino only made one Superbowl in all those years.
Being a lions fan is painful man. Been a fan for 31 years and it's the SOL year in and year out.
Why would you go from one bad team to another though?
Much respect to you wanting to root for an underdog instead of bandwagon jumping on a hot team
It started with the rumors that Herbert was Flores’ guy, and that Tua was an ownership decision. Grier has been there for 20 plus years...how many of those 20 seasons have we (the Dolphins) been good? Also...Ross is a Michigan guy. Wait for the Harbough rumors to start flying.
Uhm very few seasons, like the most memeorable thing about the Dolphins since Marino has been the Wildcat offense and then upsetting the Patriots a couple of time
It’s like Detroit firing jim Caldwell all over again. You do not fire coaches after winning seasons
My packers have LOST ZERO SLEEP except the times we laughed AT our own division
Both have or had GMs that thought they were smarter than everyone else. Made a bunch of questionable FA signings and horrible draft picks too.
To be fair the fan base was split on Caldwell, and the media turned on him. If we actually had success afterwards it wouldn't have been so bad, but to say 9-7 is unacceptable and then give us fat Patricia was a kick to the nuts.
Caldwell actually made the playoffs twice in only 4 years and that’s a huge difference. Still Flores was a good coach but I wouldn’t compare the situations
@@nestodagoat Caldwell was an average coach who could win games he was supposed to, but couldn't beat the teams that were better. He was 4-23 against teams that finished the season over .500 and 27-5 against teams that finished under. Everyone associates Caldwell with being great because Patricia was bad, but they can both not be a great fit. He's a great man, but was an average coach who couldn't manage games.
BRIAN FLORES DIDN'T WANT TO INTENTIONALLY LOSE GAMES!
I think much of it had to do with Tua. The GM has a hardon for him and Flores never did.
if you watched the games you’d know Tua’s record is because of the defense
@@LilSebastian_ they didn’t go 8-1 off Tua’s mediocre play
@@phillipalexander7862 ok so do u also blame Tua for them starting 1-7? Cause it can't be both ways. I agree Tua wasn't mind blowing but he had better games in there than people think
@@battlerifle9276 Tua was hurt for 6 of those
@@isaacdoodz Flores Record with Tua 14-8, Record without Tua 10-18.
Now that we know Flores is racist against other races not black, maybe he needed to go for the sake of the team.
For any Miami Dolphins fans biding their time until Stephon Ross either sells the team or hits the grave, just remember, we always have the Miami Heat
I took my fanhood to Our Old QB ( Ryan Tannenhill ) it does look like a bandwagon but ive always supported Ryan when he was in Miami so ill still support him after he was booted from the team.
Ross already has a hand picked successor. Based on ability to asses whether someone is competent, I’d say the Fins are screwed for decades
This hurts man hope stephen ross sucks
“Get the funk out of my face” 😂😭😂😭😂
OMG i just realized Brian Flores is going to be the Raiders head coach...
I think the raiders might try to keep their interim coach as head coach to see how he does
Ain't happening
I hope lol they might give rich a season tho since they made the playoffs
these edits are amazing. love this show
Grier has been the GM for the last 6 years and what do we have to show for it? The wrong guy got fired. We will continue to flounder.
Flounder ... Dolphin ... I get it 😆
I swear i started singing with them at the Jackie moon bit 😂🤣
I'm a Packers-Dolphins fan from Miami... I think Flores would be perfect in Chicago if they give him control.
No keep Flores out of my division
Yes, please.
No, stop it
The bears are going to pick up Zim lmfao
Dead AF💀💀💀 when they sung "Get the Funk out of my face."
Best up and coming coach in the league. This Chris Grier guy must be great. Finally hires a coach that helps them win and he's ahhttta here!! Clown show
Look at who Chris grier drafted with 3 first round picks in 2019
Tragic for dolphins fans lol
Miami did the right thing. Only people who are clueless are questioning the decision.
1. Flores couldn’t hire a competent coaching staff
2. Flores was not supportive of Tua
3. Poor coaching led to a 1-7 start
4. Flores was in charge of the 53 man roster, it was his decision to get rid of Karras and Flowers and start Jesse Davis and Austin Jackson. Also his decision to get rid of Van Noy.
5. Bad game day decisions to constantly have 2 of their better pass catchers on the sideline (Gesicki and Hollins). In a must win road game vs Tenn in bad weather he had Tua throw instead of hand it off to Duke who was having a good game.
In the end, the biggest issues were his inability to have a competent staff and the push by him for Grier to get rid of Tua and trade for Watson who neither Ross nor Grier wanted.
Thank you. This season was DISASTROUS. People see 9-8 and jump on the Flores bandwagon... real fans understand the disappointment.
Doug Pederson might be an interesting hire.
Finally a comment with logic and not feelings
Lmao
He wasn't supportive of Tua? Wasn't he the one shutting down the Watson talk and telling the media Tua was his qb? I saw nothing but support for Tua
As a Dolphins fan I am depressed but there’s still bits of me that want to have a hope but there’s absolutely nothing this organization has showed me that it will happen
I’m actually heartbroken over coach Flo being fired. Grier and Ross are such a CLOWNS. Wishing coach Flo the best and much success!
I hope the Seahawks hire him as Defensive Coordinator, or even as Head Coach
@Mike Honcho Almost certainly. But I can dream
Yes plz!!!
I love that Jackie Moon reference! lol This is why I love Pat & The Boys
Dolphins hire Urban Meyer. 😂😂
@Stefan Antonio Brown’s career is over
@Stefan All he's brought is drama to every team he's been on. Getting cut from 3 teams
"Yeah Ian, Im the F***ing host. Let's go" 😂🤣😂🤣😂
I am a life long Dolphins fan. They are a Mickey Mouse organization. Front office is absolute trash and disappointing. Brian Flores was one of the better things to happen to the team. I am suspect on Grier still not a fan of him
If you aren't after 20 years...yeah...thats shows a problem of the franchise.
Wtf you mean suspect? It's been 2 decades. This is why people respect dolphins fans just as little as they respect the organization what're you even on about right now? suspect?
Wtf you mean suspect? It's been 2 decades. This is why people respect dolphins fans just as little as they respect the organization what're you even on about right now? suspect?
Pat macfee and the guys are so funny!😂😂😂😭😭😭
As a Giants fan I want him...Home-grown and hes a Giants fan growing up
Stuck with Joe judge lol
@@chasemaldonado4383 he’s out now
I love how pat was in his bag mentally today great show from beginning to end!
Didn't take the 100k loss per game
Love when you can see AJ lighting his cigar with an industrial flamethrower
As a Patriots fan I love this move. Get rid of the only good coach you've had in the last 20 years and bring in some talentless schmuck
As a bills fan I can agree, hope coach gets something better out of this move. Good luck in the playoffs I’m freaking out!
The weakest division in football. Free trips to the Super Bowl.
@@ljvue NFC North has been pretty weak as well. Packers have mostly been the only consistently good team for the past 3 decades. Won more Super Bowls (2) than any of the other three teams within the same stretch
IMO, both divisions are weak sauce
Gumby literally being the Ollie of the dolphins news🤣🤣
Flores is a good coach but the team went 0-7 when the Deshaun Watson trade talks were going on. Flores screwed up there. He messed up the team chemistry by giving his starting QB Tua only tepid support while the trade rumors were flying.
All of this just to find out the owner was trying to pay off the hc to lose games
5:56 Some of the most serious and un serious people I've ever seen 🤣
Brian was the best thing about the dolphins
3 consecutive seasons missing the playoffs is the best thing ?
Why?
Because it’s the Miami Dolphins!
Not a Dolphins fan, but I have to say... *HUH???*
Love how he just casually lit up after the Jackie moon reference lmao
Would love to see the pats get him back as Defensive Coordinator
AJs smirks when the team goes off tangent is great
Imagine he goes back to New England just to spite the Dolphins 💀. PLEASE FLORES COME BACK PLEASE
I said the same thing. He should come back and be the DC and then take over after bill retires
@@etheu9sby292 what about Patricia? Or Bill's son?
@@kingSpanckyNaotala his son is ass and is doing most of thr play callimg now i like Patricia but hes in thr front office for some reason. Flores is a good coach not his fault the GM took Tua over Hurbert.
Revenge of the sith lmao
Thanks for the Jackie Moon shout out, im not the only one.
As a Patriots fan, I lost twice this season to the Dolphins, so this works in my favor. For Dolphins fans who might not like Flores, he's really good and some other team is going to do well.
Hope Belichick brings him back a la Patricia
@@pl33 And McDaniels
Semi Pro....great movie. Real men on the PM Show...great show!
I think Brian Flores would be a perfect fit for the Jacksonville jaguars! He would have Trevor Lawrence and a great defense and a lot of opportunity to build a great franchise for years to come I'm a Chiefs fan so I know what great franchises look like but it takes patience and commitment by ownership. That would be the move of the year in the NFL in my opinion!
I sincerely hope Flores doesn't go from one awful owner-GM duo to another like that. Hopefully he can find better prospects.
Lol Jacksonville defense great?
Well it has a potential of being a great defense they did a great number on the colts last game of the year stop Jonathan Taylor put a lot of pressure on Wentz with Flores coming in he can improve on that and have a great quarterback and be a playoff team. I'm just saying. 😁
Turns out that Brian Flores wanted Justin Herbert! The GM got tua instead! And he got let go instead of the GM! That GM has been there for a long time and needs to be completely and utterly kicked out of the NFL! Dolphins front office are clueless and their fans are going to pay dearly for it! So yes Jacksonville would be a hell of a lot better off with a coach like Brian Flores and he would then inherit a really good quarterback!
@@gregkuruvilla4280
Jacksonville would be better off obviously. Flores would not.
I'd also be a little more careful vetting your information sources. That's not an uncontested story.
Jacksonville should hire him if he likes Trevor. That combo would be lethal
Flores at HC and Caldwell at GM.
Dude has a losing record with zero playoff appearances in his 3 years and his final season started 1-7
Everyone wants to talk about his having a winning season but they were 10-6 last year and everyone was picking them to be a playoff team this season and they came out 1-7. The decision was probably made back in October when they lost to the Jags and Falcons back to back.
After the 1-7 start, sure, it looked like he was heading for a justifiable firing. But then turning around and winning 8 of 9 is incredibly impressive no matter who you play. That the team didn't just give up and pack it in at 1-7 is a testament to him as a coach. They won all 8 games by at least a touchdown.
Zac Taylor was 6-25-1 after two seasons and Kyle Shanahan was 10-22. Being too trigger happy with coaches is a great way to stay in the basement, even when you might be close to climbing out of it.
@@Xhoven Taylor and Shanahan lost their Super Bowls though they should’ve won both
I feel they are now that much more on borrowed time
@5:57 Props to Pat and the show for singing “Get the funk out my face” Haha They were Referencing an old school song by the Brothers Johnson from the 70’s!
Allegedly, he had a bad relationship with a ton of the coaching staff. It was so bad that we were forced to hire a high school coach as out offensive line coach. No one wanted to work for him.
DIdn't Flores get to hire his own coaching staff? I know he bought a few along with him from NE.
@@ppumpkin3282 He did. Word was that he used to have daily phone calls with George Godsey. By the end of it they weren't even talking.
Love Pat fing hilarious
He was 24-25 in three seasons. Coaches have been fired with better records. It’s not some pearl clutching catastrophe. He’s an average head coach, and average head coaches, for better or worse, usually get second chances in the league.
I see that foot shuffle Pat lol. Man was groovin haha…love your show (PS would you consider collaborating Something with Pittsburgh Dad, that’ll be helluva yinzer show 😂🤣)
He will be hired quickly, hopefully the Bears get him.
Bears better hire Brian Flores! He should be the ONLY one they even talk with and then hire him! NOBODY else!
Hopefully Jacksonville
The person who should be fired is the guy who drafted Tua over Herbert
At least you make sense. Unlike many others in here.
7 losses in a row is not going to cut it! 24-25 record is not impressive at all!
Wth is wrong with the dolphins organization?! You lead your team to winning 8 out of 9 games after being one of the worst teams for yeeeearrrsss. Well the dolphins are done.
And he went 10-6 last year
Yes they are going all in with Tua but are we really surprised? Tua was the best thing since sliced bread at Alabama, threw a bomb to come from behind and win a National Championship (ehhe). Brian Floures is not the second coming of Dan Marino ! They spent a big pile of money on Tua and he has an awesome attitude..
Hopefully, Tua will get better. Stress will kill you.
Yeah should have been the other way around. The GM should been fired and coach should have stayed. Don’t forget, he took Tua over Herbert 😂 All these so called “experts” on espn said Tua was better too but I always wanted Herbie and I’m glad we got him -Charger Fan ⚡️
He said get the funk out of my face 😂
Man, this is such a bonehead move by the Dolphins and I am glad that they are getting called out over it. The fact that Brian Flores was able to lead that mediocre franchise to back-to-back winning seasons was astonishing.
I guarantee you Flores will be at the top of a lot of coaching vacancies. Not gonna lie, I’m a Packers fan and I’d be mortified if he got hired by the Vikings or Bears. I think you give him at least a decent franchise, he could turn them into a SB contender.
Rap's facial expressions to Pat's comments are so golden.
5:52 = why I love these guys so much
let’s start an “allegedly” count on the videos I love it
Yooooooo Pat Macafee is a wild boy! "Get the funk out of my face."
That little musical number 6mins in or so....beautiful. Slap that on a record please.
Flores to Chicago!! Let's go!
Was waiting for Pat and the boys to talk about this. As a Pats fan, I am stoked he is out of the division! Because as a football fan, I think he is a great coach and a great leader. I hope he takes over for Billy B someday up here in Foxboro. Love B-Flo he was well-liked in New England.
This would be a nice pick up for Minnesota
After that Jackie Moon song...I am now a subscriber.
Dear God this Is the greatest podcast show ever!!!
Getting rid of a winning coach isn't going to change the product Miami's front office puts on the field. Flores helped turn that locker room around, damn shame he couldn't have done the same for our front office. We haven't had a good OLine since 2010 and haven't had a slightly below average one since 2013 and that has NOTHING to do with Flores...
2021 OLine Ranking: 32
2020 OLine Ranking: 28
2019 OLine Ranking: 32
2018 OLine Ranking: 31
2017 OLine Ranking: 29
2016 OLine Ranking: 30
2015 OLine Ranking: 31
2014 OLine Ranking: 32
2013 OLine Ranking: 21 (Yep, still in the bottom half!)
2012 OLine Ranking: 23
2011 OLine Ranking: 22
2010 OLine Ranking: 8
I want you to show this to Giant fans. They will swear up and down that they have the worst o-line.
@@kevinstewart8054 If you can't protect your QB, how the fk do you expect him to develop? Between the coaching and OLine, we absolutely CRIPPLED Tannehill both developmentally and physically. Apparently, Ross and Grier are determined to do the same to Tua. Damn shame too because he's not a bad QB, best we've had for awhile.
dead!! "im a host, go on go on" .... this is why pat has the best show out there. honesty
Pat one of the coolest dudes
He's more than welcome back at my pat's. I was t happy with Matt coming back but Flores I'd take back. I doubt he'll have an issue getting a new HC job.
The funk is strong with this clip
Being a black coach not named Tomlin has been a tough business as of late… Flores’ name was coming up in coach of the year talks just a few weeks ago… hope he’s stays clear of New York… those squads don’t deserve him, Giants or Jets.
The boys breaking out in song from semi pro is why I watch this show lol.