Removing An Old Ceramic Coating: How To Remove & Recoat
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2022
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We applied this coating on July 2020. Its now August 2022 and upon last inspection I noticed weakness in the coatings hydrophobics. That doesn't equal coating FAILURE but it was starting to fail and we are being proactive ahead of winter to remove and recoat.
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You convinced me that applying wax even twice a year or every 8 months, is much less labor intensive (and less expensive) than prepping, polishing and reapplying a new coating every couple of years.
Chelsea,you are so genuine,honest and nice! I love your videos . Thank you!
I love how thorough you're with the steps and demonstrating to the viewers. I learn something new every time I watch your videos. Thanks!
In terms of clarity BMW has some of the nicest clear coat out there on the market. Looks awesome chealsea.
Your approach was spot on. Awesome results.
Normally if they weren't willing to put the time in effort into looking after a more expensive coating I would maybe offer something like seal & shine but since they are willing to pay for a better coating but do realize there not gonna look after it you are offering the right approach. 👍🇨🇦
Chelsea your approach was spot on. I have the same philosophy of letting them know the blunt truth about tunnel washes. But they still want it. I make an agreement with them to only use a touch less car wash only when absolutely required. Fewer scratches that way but it brings in 3-5 pH car wash soap. Thanks
I'm not a pro but an enthusiast that enjoys doing my own work and taking care of my cars. Are you saying the self serve touchless car washes are in the 3-5 pH range, or the automatic touchless washes? And are either/or safe for a consumer grade coating? (in my case Adams Graphene)
@@aaronlothamer6618 good question
You are so correct on the life of ceramics and honestly realistic with your customers.
Information is key and you gave them what they really needed 💯💪
Very nice work, Chelsea! 👍
Another great video
You bring up a great point on durability. I’ve contemplated on dropping the “5yr” and sell it as a 3 or 4 yr. When I was looking at car pro pro grade coatings they don’t list durability. When I called to ask they said we don’t list durability because we can’t guarantee it because it’s depending on how it’s maintained BUT 3yrs is what we’ve seen tested realistically in the real world.
That looks awesome love your work
Car looks great!
Excellent work as always and I like your choice of coatings. This may be a customer who needs a ceramic one year topper added every six months or they can just see you every three months. I feel the car washes are not going to stop so adding a one year topper every six months may be the best option. Thank you for the video.
Nice looking car!
Hey Chelsea i've been curious on the longevity of luxury microfibers tire king tire coating.
Do you think you will or can do an application with updates?
I agree with your approach, Chelsea. Although the coating is going to degrade significantly from those automatic car washes, it's going to take the brunt of the damage, therefore helping to preserve the clearcoat more than a sealant would.
Chelsea you were very spot on. That BMW looks good
Great video killer content I would have tried to go about it the same way you are super professional
Personally, I would push for something like McKee’s 37 Graphene Sealant and apply like once a year. You wouldn’t have to polish to remove it, just do a strip wash, clay towel, iron decon, clean up the paint with McKee’s 37 Graphene 3-In-1 Ceramic Polish, and reapply the Graphene Sealant. At the 6 month maintenance mark apply something like Hydro Graphene Ceramic Coating to boost the sealant. Granted, you don’t have quite the protection that a dedicated coating offers, but you don’t have to worry about polishing to have that clean slate in order to apply a new coating or LSP. Using something like the 3-In-1, it would take a long time to have a measured decrease in paint thickness versus a dedicated polish, and the Graphene Sealant would offer stronger protection than just a regular synthetic sealant. Granted, I’m just an enthusiast and not a business owner, so my opinion may not be worth a bucket of spit, but just thought I’d throw it out there for you to do with as you will. Love your videos - keep up the great work! 👍🏻❤️
I've had to polish to remove things as basic as Megs HCW spray that was 6 months old after several rounds of chems failed to remove it all.
Hey Chelsea,
A great video and very, very helpful...thanks! On another note, in the video, I noticed that you were washing the vehicle barefooted. You really need to be careful when using any type of chemicals. Never be barefoot when using any kind of harsh chemicals. As just a caution, you should also wear gloves.
I only want you to be safe and have no issues later in life. God Bless you and keep the videos coming!
That was an amazing turnaround. I really appreciate your expertise and honesty about what the expectations should be in this process. I am actually a 22 year veteran pharmaceutical sales rep who started doing coatings during the pandemic. I detailed cars back in college on and off for 9 years so I had a basic understanding of paint correction back in the Stone Age. Now I am in for $1,000’s with a Rupes Big Foot DA 15 MM, a Rupes Nano, and 3 in. Griots DA. What can I say, anything worth doing is worth over doing. So I am a DIY enthusiast and I really do love learning about how to get better. I have a 5 year professional coating on my wife’s Jeep Grand Cherokee. It was Black Pearl by Car Brite. We do not keep it in a garage and it is starting to fail after less than 2 years and that vehicle has never been through a car wash and I really did try to maintain it perfectly. I recently got certified to apply System X and I am going to put Maxx on it, which is supposed to be a lifetime coating. I’ll believe that when I see the durability for myself. I will also be putting it in the garage when it gets re-coated to try and protect the coating even more. Thank you for what you do. I really do learn a lot from you.
But some Kronos on that thing. That coating super strong and thicker then most! And beads are insane!
You could use mckees 360 all in one and apply coating after since it's designed to be coated over.
What about Kronos by Phoenix that’s very chemical resistant ?
There are tons of people that use automatic car washes. I tell as many people as I can to stop using them. I would have put on a good sealant and told them to come back in a few months. Wash and reapply sealant.
I tell my coating clients that if they have to use an automatic wash to use a touchless wash. While it may not get their vehicle super clean, it will help preserve the paint as opposed to the tunnel wash with the "all cloth brushes".
I need a car soap to remove wax/ sealants to prep vehicle for polish .. what’s your recommendations? Thank you
Mckees 37 coating prep wash
Great informative real life Video. I like the idea of a light polish between long term coatings.
I put The Last Coat on my wife car and would like to change to a ceramic or graphing coating.
Will a strip wash do the job or should i polish???
ty Jimmy
Strip wash should be sufficient
TY
If not washing in the sun I just use a ik pro sprayer with rage at 6:1 and spray the vehicle down let it sit a minute or so and rinse and wash with a good soap. Works awsome and is cheap.
Love the way this came out. The McKees 37 coating looks to have made the blue paint a deeper rich color. Great job Chelsea! Just curious if you have ever tried G Techniq CSL and EVO V4 combination? I've seen many enthusiasts rave about this combo. I haven't seen what the water behavior is like after it's cured.
No but it’s on my shelf to try and share
I bought a new Kia and the dealer already applied a spray and wipe ceramic coating by EG Repel plus. Should I leave it alone till it appears to fail or remove it? Will it remove easy since its a spray and wipe type coating? Thanks
Did the “coating” come with a warranty and is the war void if you remove the “coating”?
Hi Chelsea - great video :) Since you tend to use shorter longevity coatings with such clients - do try the new Artdeshine HYBRID coating. You already know and like their professional only nano graphene coating, but HYBRID is a 3 years, prosumer coating - super easy to use. Give it a try - it has awesome durability, slickness and chemical resistance :)
Will do!!
Any recommendations for a good cleaning soap for coatings that won’t strip the coating.
Carpro reset or descale every few months or Apex auto wash for everyday washes
Have you tried jade graphene coating ive heard great things about there 7 year obsidian pro coating
I have not
Very informative video love the content. Is a Touchless car wash ok we live in a town we're the water is extremely hard and softeners do not work so we can't hand wash ..I know the brushes wash is terrible on your paint lol..❤️❤️
It can still weaken the coating so I recommend using it minimally and definitely using a ceramic drying aid after to help replenish the hydrophobics. But a few times wont kill it.
@@attention2detailswchelsea ok thanks so much 😁
How do you dilute wash chems pro 100?
3-4 oz in a foam cannon fill the rest up with water
Always love the video's and business advice ty. Have you any advice about Detailing business insurance?
ty jimmy
Always recommend garage keepers and limited liability insurance. I have a million dollar policy with a local insurance and it’s under $600 for the year. If you do more than 4 vehicles a month, you need to get insurance
can you tell me what company you use plz,
I am on the verge of starting and want to have protection ty. Message private if you prefer ty
@@attention2detailswchelsea Great video....I'm wondering if the coating removed had initials UD? 🙂I've been looking around for insurance too. Have you heard of "errors & omission" coverage? An agent said that would apply more to a detailing business than general liability coverage. What does "garage keepers" coverage add?
Chelsea, you mentioned of 15 coatings you tested, McKee's37 Graphene gave best chem. resistance. By chance, was GYEON Snycro EVO or Pure EVO or the Gtechniq/CQuartz UK 3.0 line incl. in those tests? All 4 of those are pretty heavy hitters for chemical resistance in all the test's I've seen done. I can't believe McKees37 Graphene would beat them out, but who knows.
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I think your way will work
link for NextPTG paint gauge?
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I thought the same thing lol. Every time I wash my cat it pours lol. Only in PA huh
Can’t really do much if they understand and are okay with it. Maybe not the best but hey its their car.. we are just trying to get them the longevity..
Thought you cant go through car washes with a ceramic coating
It’s not recommended as it can weaken ceramic coatings but it won’t kill it immediately. They’re designed to be chemically resistant, but they’re not chemical proof and the soaps used at the automatic car washes can greatly weaken them so you’re right it’s not recommended, but I tell customers if they’re going to go through it which they always do even though i could make a hundred videos showing the dangers of them, regardless, make sure you’re using a ceramic topper to replenish the hydrophobics but expect the life of your coating to be cut in half at least
Grwat vid👍
Ceramic DOES NOT PROTECT YOUR CARS PAINT FROM AUTOMATIC CAR WASHES
U should have told the customer no point to apply any coating if he's gonna trash it on the automatic car wash .
I stress maintenance is important and even make these videos to show them that importance but like the saying goes you can lead a sheep to water but you can’t make them drink…
😄😄normally what customers do, they are creative using the car wash instead of remembering not use a car wash specially after spending their hatd earned money with us.😄😄
I also don't offer warranties and prefer to do more vehicles of within an affordable price than a few with a high price.
If the customer wants it coated and willing to pay for it then is a matter of doing it with the one that we know is stronger but customer must be aware not to go through carwash again because of the state of the clear coat which is now compromised. Great you had today a helping hand with your kid 👌💪😄
I wish it would rain like that in King of Prussia....we havent had rain for months ....my beautiful lawn is dead and brown 😩😩😩😩😩
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