but a painful buggy product. it's good when it's working but every time there's an issue, usually it's a BIG issue that you want to throw the machine in the garbage. from PSU problem to OS issues,..it's a very problematic product
I have some digital gear but the older I get the more I am towards analog. Especially when I see people like Jomox who are really passionate of what they do. And do that in superb quality
Awesome system! Should be awarded for his approaches, certainly! I'd like to see a new approach to electronic organ tone generation based on transistor packs. In the early 70's electronic organs really started sounding less authentic when they implemented what was called LSI, or Large Scale Integrated circuits. FACT- you can't cram 500+ transistors on a chip and expect it to sound good. The Transistor Individual Oscillator tone generators sounded great. Would love to see you explore organ tech.
The Nyquist-Shannon theorem explains how sampling works, and why you get the exact same signal back: because of the analogue low-pass filter. There's no interpolation going on. Having said all that, there's an AirBase 99 on its way to me as we speak. My first analogue synthesiser, but not my last.
He is talking about pitch up or down a sample. You have to interpolate/resample it. With an analog oscilator there is no interpolation when changing the pitch.
It looks like you watched a YT video about Nyquist. Cool. But what does your theoretical scenario involving an analog LPF have to do with anything? And where are you claiming there is "no interpolation going on"? @MarkusCologne If you look at an audio signal, it is voltage. That voltage translates to the position of a speaker driver which moves air. Digital audio produces a voltage with no gaps, and it moves the speaker smoothly between samples and creates sound with no gaps. But that has nothing to do with the digital processing of those signals! There's interpolation/regression all over the place in digital production. Interfaces and mixers oversample and further interpolate. VSTs interpolate (and call it oversampling). At least the good ones do. Like he says in the video, digital is fine for recording and playback, but it has limitations in production. And Jomox makes hardware for producers. He makes a point of this! 8:50 People have misconceptions about the gaps between digital samples and/or what the waveform will actually look like - which isn't what it looks like when you zoom down to the sample level. But that's not what he's talking about. He repeatedly referred to the aliasing frequency. And he's 100% correct. Any digital audio processor has to work with a finite number of frequencies, and there can be interactions - like the audio version of the moiré effect. There are differences between analog and digital. And Jürgen certainly understands those differences a lot better than most, even if his comment about "ribs" could be misinterpreted.
A 909 kick doesn't sound that great until you add some distortion. The beauty of analog is in the way things degrade when pushed past their limits. It's like analog film. It's worse than digital in almost every way. But when you overexpose something, the blown-out highlights can be amazing. Like the videos of the Apollo launches. If those had been digital cameras, everything would clip to perfect digital white and it would be boring. It's funny how simple analog distortion circuits are, and how difficult it is to do a good digital recreation of them. Everybody does it backwards. I'd rather use a digital synth with an analog mixer and analog distortion/compression than an expensive analog synth with all digital mixing and FX. As long as I still have my analog Jomox kick going into an analog distortion. Engineers have put a lot of effort into making some virtual analog synths that sound really great. And there are digital synths that don't get enough respect! But I always see producers get expensive analog synths then just plug them into an interface to make everything in Ableton. What's the point? You're running that synth through a chain of nothing but digital effects, then doing all-digital mixing, all-digital EQ, adding some digital saturation/distortion, some Valhalla reverb ... Who cares? It's much better to have digital gear towards the front of the signal path and analog towards the end, but you can't do that when all your mixing/FX are in a DAW.
@garnwell heyndrr i think i've grown in the past month, i dont think that way anymore but still think people should go in the woods to listen to the birds just because it is a medicine.. but i do like synths that are not trying to replace sounds that we can hear outside
..his dumbass even solders the batteries directly in so you have to desolder then put in a real battery holder.. on top of everything he makes has ridiculously buggy software .
mich würde mal interessieren was er zu digitaler Klangerzeugung heute sagt, in den fast 10 Jahren hat sich ja nochmal einiges verändert und mittlerweile sagen ja auch einige dass die Unterschiede so subtil sind dass sie kaum wahrzunehmen sind...
Jürgen says these are not bugs, these are features.He is not even ashamed of it and recommends to use an external sequencer like everyone else. Never again a product from Jomox. I will keep the 888 anyway.
i got a jomox 09 myself but hey: is there any of you exlectronic wizzards out there aho is NOT using a behringer mixer for monitoring his work? are you all deaf? don't you want to hear the nuances of your machines? geeezz...
Nothing to do with sound. Is all in durability and long lasting. Thats why b/er products are generally cheap cause if it breaks you wont cry much about it vs an equal channels and features 4x the price mackie or heath
Best sounding Kick for the past 30 years
but a painful buggy product. it's good when it's working but every time there's an issue, usually it's a BIG issue that you want to throw the machine in the garbage. from PSU problem to OS issues,..it's a very problematic product
Respect to this Genius. I studied both Electronic and Information technology and I know how difficult to create something from scratch! Wow.
I have some digital gear but the older I get the more I am towards analog. Especially when I see people like Jomox who are really passionate of what they do. And do that in superb quality
An amazing person with incredible insight into synthesis. Thank you.
Danke für das enorme Engagement. Einfach nur gut.
OMFG! This is worth rewatching! Jurgen, du bist mein hero!!!
amazing video. i love everything this guy builds!!!
Hammer Bericht und cooler Typ ! Alles sehr gut verständlich erklärt. Geniales Equipment. Wieder etwas neues auf der Wunschliste :)
Top Interview Hoschi!
Awesome system! Should be awarded for his approaches, certainly! I'd like to see a new approach to electronic organ tone generation based on transistor packs. In the early 70's electronic organs really started sounding less authentic when they implemented what was called LSI, or Large Scale Integrated circuits. FACT- you can't cram 500+ transistors on a chip and expect it to sound good. The Transistor Individual Oscillator tone generators sounded great.
Would love to see you explore organ tech.
The Nyquist-Shannon theorem explains how sampling works, and why you get the exact same signal back: because of the analogue low-pass filter. There's no interpolation going on.
Having said all that, there's an AirBase 99 on its way to me as we speak. My first analogue synthesiser, but not my last.
He is talking about pitch up or down a sample. You have to interpolate/resample it. With an analog oscilator there is no interpolation when changing the pitch.
I fully agree. There is no „nothing“ between the samples. However, I still have great respect for the develoment of analog gear.
It looks like you watched a YT video about Nyquist. Cool. But what does your theoretical scenario involving an analog LPF have to do with anything? And where are you claiming there is "no interpolation going on"?
@MarkusCologne If you look at an audio signal, it is voltage. That voltage translates to the position of a speaker driver which moves air. Digital audio produces a voltage with no gaps, and it moves the speaker smoothly between samples and creates sound with no gaps.
But that has nothing to do with the digital processing of those signals! There's interpolation/regression all over the place in digital production. Interfaces and mixers oversample and further interpolate. VSTs interpolate (and call it oversampling). At least the good ones do.
Like he says in the video, digital is fine for recording and playback, but it has limitations in production. And Jomox makes hardware for producers. He makes a point of this! 8:50
People have misconceptions about the gaps between digital samples and/or what the waveform will actually look like - which isn't what it looks like when you zoom down to the sample level. But that's not what he's talking about.
He repeatedly referred to the aliasing frequency. And he's 100% correct. Any digital audio processor has to work with a finite number of frequencies, and there can be interactions - like the audio version of the moiré effect.
There are differences between analog and digital. And Jürgen certainly understands those differences a lot better than most, even if his comment about "ribs" could be misinterpreted.
"Sie klingen einfach nach Seife. Immer noch" Wie schööön! I love my Airbase still though I'm feeling the pull of the module...
Can't wait the end of the month my jomox 999 arrives :D
One day I would like to buy an Alpha Base. Love that thing. ✨🌟
thanx for my air base 99 - love it
Jürgen is an absolute G
He is the german I always imagined to be since I was little.
Smart guy.. love his products.
GO JURGEN!!! You are a hero to us! = )
A 909 kick doesn't sound that great until you add some distortion. The beauty of analog is in the way things degrade when pushed past their limits.
It's like analog film. It's worse than digital in almost every way. But when you overexpose something, the blown-out highlights can be amazing. Like the videos of the Apollo launches. If those had been digital cameras, everything would clip to perfect digital white and it would be boring.
It's funny how simple analog distortion circuits are, and how difficult it is to do a good digital recreation of them.
Everybody does it backwards. I'd rather use a digital synth with an analog mixer and analog distortion/compression than an expensive analog synth with all digital mixing and FX. As long as I still have my analog Jomox kick going into an analog distortion.
Engineers have put a lot of effort into making some virtual analog synths that sound really great. And there are digital synths that don't get enough respect!
But I always see producers get expensive analog synths then just plug them into an interface to make everything in Ableton. What's the point? You're running that synth through a chain of nothing but digital effects, then doing all-digital mixing, all-digital EQ, adding some digital saturation/distortion, some Valhalla reverb ... Who cares?
It's much better to have digital gear towards the front of the signal path and analog towards the end, but you can't do that when all your mixing/FX are in a DAW.
Ich liebe meine Airbase99 und Mbase11, nach wie vor die fetteste Kick am Markt 🔥
auf den punkt gekommen . . . sehr nice herr michaelis :-)
7:00 So, the ultimate goal will be just going in the nature, listening to the birds and banging on some bucket
@garnwell heyndrr i think i've grown in the past month, i dont think that way anymore but still think people should go in the woods to listen to the birds just because it is a medicine.. but i do like synths that are not trying to replace sounds that we can hear outside
Ce savoir faire de dingue ! Impressionnant 😦
Jürgen! Bester Mann !
Crazy seeing the guy soldering the ic's himself
He solders digital ICs BY HAND. WOW.
..his dumbass even solders the batteries directly in so you have to desolder then put in a real battery holder.. on top of everything he makes has ridiculously buggy software .
mich würde mal interessieren was er zu digitaler Klangerzeugung heute sagt, in den fast 10 Jahren hat sich ja nochmal einiges verändert und mittlerweile sagen ja auch einige dass die Unterschiede so subtil sind dass sie kaum wahrzunehmen sind...
Four layer!?!?!?
HOTT
That's hot. That's a hit.
6:50 That’s when he solders (!) the backup battery 🤬 So much unnecessary effort to change this one. Very interesting video.
He's right about organic.
un grande
best gear I own is jomox stuff!
What are the falls of the sampling w/in the Jomox?
but cool track at 6.30 ! what is it?
Mbase11 🤘🔥
JOMOX T resonator II : soooo dificult to tweak ! I call it " blow my speaker once plz ! " ^^
"Bei ner DSP basierten Geschichte haste eben nur die DSP und der Rest ist Kot"
When U will fix 888 bugs?
Never, my advice to you: SELL IT!!!!
Jürgen says these are not bugs, these are features.He is not even ashamed of it and recommends to use an external sequencer like everyone else. Never again a product from Jomox. I will keep the 888 anyway.
What does "sound like soap" mean? Was sind die deutschen Wörter?
Klingt wie Seife.
Die one man army schlechthin!
Couldn’t he just collaborate with elektron 🙄?
no let‘s keep Jonox substream and something special! ;)
Narrator wow THANK GOD this man is still creating ANALOG synths, world saved.
FAT sound, good to know.
😐🤫
Wait Juergen, are you saying you hear frequencies above 22 kHz that go missing when sampling at 44.1?
I don't think so, I think he's saying they interact with frequencies we can hear and it adds to the complexity of the system
dass hier ist auch gut: th-cam.com/video/joDx2lxLe-E/w-d-xo.html
2017 and analog still rules. I'm starting to think digital audio science is missing something. Side by side analog blows digital out of the water.
Ob der nen azubi sucht? :D
schweinerei....yup
i got a jomox 09 myself but hey:
is there any of you exlectronic wizzards out there aho is NOT using a behringer mixer for monitoring his work?
are you all deaf?
don't you want to hear the nuances of your machines?
geeezz...
Nothing to do with sound. Is all in durability and long lasting. Thats why b/er products are generally cheap cause if it breaks you wont cry much about it vs an equal channels and features 4x the price mackie or heath
After sale service is ZERO!!!!!! I loved my 999 but dont want to hear about any products from Jomox .