The Luftwaffe Fa 223 Dragon - First Helicopter to Reach Production Status

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    It was the first helicopter in aviation history to reach production status. In fact, its performance was so impressive - being able to reach 113 miles per hour and an altitude of 23,300 feet in testing - that the Luftwaffe ordered 400 of the Focke-Achgelis Fa 223s to be built towards the end of WW2. Only 20 models of the Drache, or “Dragon,” were produced, however, due to constant disruptions by Allied bombing.
    With only a limited number of the helicopters in existence, each of the Allied powers were eager to get their hands on one in order to study its unique design that used a single radial engine and dual three-bladed rotors. After America captured two of the only surviving models, it put one on a ship back to US, and it was ready to destroy the other. Yet, Britain wanted it for themselves and marshaled a German POW pilot to fly it across the English Channel…
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  • @MPPelli
    @MPPelli 4 ปีที่แล้ว +316

    "Aviation pioneer and co-founder of Focke-Wulf, Heinrich Focke, was a pioneer."
    I happen to know that he was also a co-founder of Focke-Wulf.

    • @gormauslander
      @gormauslander 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Yeah, but did you hear that he also was a pioneer?

    • @MPPelli
      @MPPelli 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@gormauslander Thanks! I did not know that.

    • @maimino1984
      @maimino1984 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It seems he was an early advocate of redundancy...

    • @thedungeondelver
      @thedungeondelver 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@gormauslander You mean the pioneer and co-Founder of Focke-Wulf?

    • @mikenodine6713
      @mikenodine6713 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then why did he hire that Tank dude to design airplanes for him?

  • @brianyoung3324
    @brianyoung3324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +434

    German aircraft checklist:
    Flat plexiglass canopy
    Ahead of its time but unreliable
    Numerous versions planned
    Factory destroyed multiple times
    Hundreds planned for every month
    Three built
    Captured for research
    I rate this aircraft: Ubergermanisch

    • @nooblangpoo
      @nooblangpoo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      They even had designs for a a quadrotor version

    • @davidelliott5843
      @davidelliott5843 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why was it not built with tandem rotors? Or maybe three rotors for easy(er) three axis control.

    • @Einwetok
      @Einwetok 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@davidelliott5843 Because it was first, tandems came later. You could argue it's an unconventional tandem. Helicopters themselves were new and unconventional.

    • @1993Crag
      @1993Crag 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      How were they ahead of their time? The US literally had a similar design at the start of the war too...

    • @williamedwards105
      @williamedwards105 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Crag_r You are correct and ours was more stable

  • @Gerberbaby922
    @Gerberbaby922 4 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    9:08 I guess Rob Dahm is not the only one with an unfinished 4 rotor project.

    • @marcolian
      @marcolian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Underrated comment right here. Well played.

    • @TheGreatBigBo11
      @TheGreatBigBo11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DRONE

    • @celtisafricana4984
      @celtisafricana4984 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🤣🤣🤣 Ouch! That's got to hurt!

    • @_VEKTA
      @_VEKTA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lmfao

    • @spiv_gennedy
      @spiv_gennedy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aaaaaaahhhhh! I see what you did.

  • @MoveAhead101
    @MoveAhead101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Prof. Focke did not stop there. He went on with experiments and build himself a small windtunnel in the 1960s at the age if 70. That thing was rediscovered 1997.

    • @nooblangpoo
      @nooblangpoo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Can't stop the passion to build and fly.

    • @brittakriep2938
      @brittakriep2938 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Visit Fachsenfeld castle. The last noble owner, died in early 1990s. He had a small ,wind channel' in his castle, and did aerodynamic experiments in 1920s/30s to build fast cars. An experimental car, designed by Mr . von Koenig- Fachsenfeld himself, is still there..

    • @Ryosuke1208
      @Ryosuke1208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So you could say he didn't give Focke?

    • @stevesworldisnumber1
      @stevesworldisnumber1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ryosuke1208 Ha, Ha, Ha!!!

  • @oxcart4172
    @oxcart4172 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    9:36 I'm pretty sure that their plant wasn't bombed by Heinkels.

    • @bbrf033
      @bbrf033 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Nor was the factory built in the middle of an oilfield

    • @foxtrotsierraproductions8626
      @foxtrotsierraproductions8626 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@bbrf033 can confirm i live not far away from Fa 223 Factory

  • @gebus5633
    @gebus5633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    "Allied air raid" - shows footage of He 111 dropping bombs. Close enough I suppose...

  • @dannydaw59
    @dannydaw59 4 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    The Nazi's removed Focke from the company. They said "Get that Focke outa there!"

  • @chr0min0id
    @chr0min0id 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    "The germans made the first production helicopters and jets!"
    Avgeeks and History nerds that already know this: *"Wow I did Nazi that coming"*

    • @noelblack8159
      @noelblack8159 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @กล้วยหอมจอมซน You’re Misleading too

    • @foxtrotsierraproductions8626
      @foxtrotsierraproductions8626 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @bruh and first helicopter to reach production status my grandpa did saw a Fa223

  • @Tommygunn776
    @Tommygunn776 4 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Your voice is actually kinda relaxing in some creepy way

    • @mastathrash5609
      @mastathrash5609 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I personally wouldn't say creepy as much as forceful and concise, His delivery is a bit fast somtimes.. but the info and subject matter he provides is top notch and I just see it as him cramming all that info into his video efficiently as he can. Love the content

    • @u0aol1
      @u0aol1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sometimes they speed the audio up so it fits inside googles time limit for the videos, thats why it sounds a bit fast occassionally when he speaks

    • @ludaMerlin69
      @ludaMerlin69 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@u0aol1 what time limit? Plenty of his TH-cam peers have over 40min long videos

    • @Spey_Phantom
      @Spey_Phantom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      text-to-speech, i find it irritating and cringeworthy.
      if i see a video with this this type of annoying robot voice, thats an instant dislike from me.

    • @purpleldv966
      @purpleldv966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      but unintelligible at times!

  • @Mambaru
    @Mambaru 4 ปีที่แล้ว +171

    The parts mysteriously disappeared while in the USA... Well there's a shock!

    • @My_Alchemical_Romance
      @My_Alchemical_Romance 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Gavin Robinson welcome to the list, my friend.
      There, there. You are home now. Among friends.

    • @dub2536
      @dub2536 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      LMAO. Sticky fingers anyone?

    • @indyjons321
      @indyjons321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Probably in some abandoned barn.

    • @zefft.f4010
      @zefft.f4010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It isn't that mysterious. It was probably disassembled and scrapped after being studied, that's what happened to most captured German hardware.

    • @dub2536
      @dub2536 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@zefft.f4010 I am grateful for your comment. Scrapped? The US military must be nearly identical to Nasa, as Nasa claims to have traveled to and from the moon on multiple occasions, to then "scrap" the hardware used to travel to and from the moon, and say "....and rebuilding that technology is a painful process" hence we can not travel to and from the moon! Why does America destroy such priceless technology when the machines to travel thru space safely (allegedly, if it's not a hoax) is obviously the most valuable technology in our known universe? Does this behavior make any sense to anyone?

  • @TheHoagie13
    @TheHoagie13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a Commo guy who was enlisted in ARNG-MN 2-147th AHB (Assault Helicopter Battalion; 8SEPT2008-8SEPT2016) *I find this video DEEPLY fascinating!*

  • @lucianobarbosa5764
    @lucianobarbosa5764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the honour of knowing one of the technicians involved in this so succesful project. He was a senior consulptant in one aerospace company that I worked in my junior times.

  • @jonathangoldrick8279
    @jonathangoldrick8279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    "Fuhrer, I have produced a game changing aircraft that doesn't require an airstrip, it will revolutionize aviation and military doctrine forever"
    "I don't think you are Nazi enough, you're fired."

    • @vthegoose
      @vthegoose 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thankfully that’s how the Germans ran their country lol

  • @missilpeludo8813
    @missilpeludo8813 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    If you align the rotors with fuselage, you have a “Piasecki H-21 Workhorse/Shawnee “

    • @josmo1363
      @josmo1363 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      If they could rotate the rotors, they would have had a v22 osprey

    • @dub2536
      @dub2536 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@josmo1363 great point.

    • @donsmith4044
      @donsmith4044 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dub2536 But don't forget the stub wings.

    • @dub2536
      @dub2536 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@donsmith4044 those ca be added via plywood and crazy glue etc. Sadly the "Natter" project which I admire had tragedies as quality glue is something the germans where in very short supply of because many aircraft crashed as the glue didn't hold well enough. But where there's a will there is a way.

    • @donsmith4044
      @donsmith4044 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dub2536The wooden wonder Mosquitoes had a habit of glew failures to critical control surfaces.
      Don.

  • @atomicskull6405
    @atomicskull6405 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    The Soviet Mil V-12 used the same rotor configuration but was the size of a C-130 cargo plane. Biggest helicopter ever made but never went into full production.

    • @shaider1982
      @shaider1982 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think its rotors combined rivaled the wingspan of a 747.

    • @KOZMOuvBORG
      @KOZMOuvBORG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@shaider1982 About 8 ft. more than a 747-400

    • @WilliamJones-Halibut-vq1fs
      @WilliamJones-Halibut-vq1fs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It’s an efficient configuration, balanced, symmetrical forces and stable over changing speeds and easy to control. Focke had plans for bigger units. The intermeshing style developed by Focke-Achilles’s competitor Fletner also lived on in the form of the Kamen Husky and K-max. Easy to control precisely in the hover.

    • @VerdeMorte
      @VerdeMorte 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WilliamJones-Halibut-vq1fs
      It's scary to imagine them actually getting tank transport working that wasn't incredibly complicated & convuluted...

    • @VerdeMorte
      @VerdeMorte 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Charles Yuditsky
      They're solution to everything back then was scaling up, which eventually resulted in a russian helicopter that could transport tanks, even if it wasn't used by the military and that design was further inspiration for the Osprey, which is capable of transporting multiple main battle tanks...

  • @scenefromhere
    @scenefromhere 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Last time I was this early, the Wright brothers were still making bicycles...

    • @bigblue6917
      @bigblue6917 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have they fixed that flat tyre yet?

    • @AnimatedAirlines
      @AnimatedAirlines 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Last time I was this early, the Austro-Hungarian Empire was still standing

    • @official_commanderhale965
      @official_commanderhale965 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Last time I was this early USA was still a British Colony

    • @AnimatedAirlines
      @AnimatedAirlines 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      last time I was this early, the Crusades was still going

    • @official_commanderhale965
      @official_commanderhale965 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Animated Airlines so were you here when the crusades were going on or the Austrian-Hungarian Empire was around??🤔

  • @ydsimulations
    @ydsimulations 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Yaay 100k congrats (sorry if im late)

    • @babebucksbetter7489
      @babebucksbetter7489 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ur late

    • @InfiltrateIndustries
      @InfiltrateIndustries 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Better be sorry, you

    • @UpToSpeedOnJaguar
      @UpToSpeedOnJaguar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would have liked to hear one. The rotor position and exhaust direction could have made for a very quiet aircraft. Even on extremely modern aircraft design today we purposefully eject exhaust up in to the rotor blades to reduce engine noise.

    • @tonydanila1806
      @tonydanila1806 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Too bad DS-DD is bias > Didn't want to say the word COPY > American and British

  • @PRH123
    @PRH123 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Flying a helicopter across the english channel at that time shows how reliable it was... 20k foot ceiling, over 100 mph speed, mountain operations... impressive for a piston helicopter at any time, even now...
    We were told as kids in the 70's and 80's that the first operational helicopters were american. No one said or wrote a word about the fact that not only did the not-sees have them, but they were operationally in use and successful.b

  • @flitetym
    @flitetym 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    The “4-rotor version” looks eerily similar to today’s UAS/drones - which is the plan for future intercity passenger transport. “To look ahead, we must look behind.”

    • @trauko1388
      @trauko1388 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/eWH2w-LUVc0/w-d-xo.html

    • @jebise1126
      @jebise1126 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes but also v22 big brother was canceled and it ad 4 rotors. so im not sure if anything big will came of of those multi rotor designs.

    • @flitetym
      @flitetym 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jebi Se ... hexa and octa-rotorcraft are coming ... powered by hybrid or full electric motors ... I’m projecting another 20-30 years ... the Boston to Richmond corridor will be crowded with 30-70 passenger “air taxis” and “air busses.” “Peter Pan” will take on a whole new meaning. 🧚🏽‍♂️

    • @Jason-fm4my
      @Jason-fm4my 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The two rotor version reminds me of the Alouette helicopters.

    • @shaider1982
      @shaider1982 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The way they are controlled or powered are different: quadcopters today use electric motors to turn each prop. They control it via changing the torque. This means you cam use simple propellers. For the Drache quadcopter, the rotors have their own cyclic control.

  • @purpleldv966
    @purpleldv966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember the first combat operational helicopter was of german origin, and used by the Japanese to drop depth-charges on an allied submarine... I think it was a quad too!

  • @Savchenkov1
    @Savchenkov1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This machine would have been perfect for the Gran Sasso raid, and saved many fallschirmjager being killed in their gliders on the rocky terrain.

    • @foxtrotsierraproductions8626
      @foxtrotsierraproductions8626 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But Hitler didn't wanted them sadly...

    • @droid2478
      @droid2478 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not to mention it's probably armed with mg42s and few 50.cal or cannon rounds could easily brought it down

  • @vmafferreira6466
    @vmafferreira6466 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Helicopters /jet fighters/jet bombers /cruise missile V1/ icbm V2/ and so many other advanced weapons and tecnology the allies could just only dream luckly for us they have all that in small numbers and a lunatic running Germany at that time.

    • @1993Crag
      @1993Crag 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How could the allies only dream of jets? They literally used them too...

  • @theodoreolson8529
    @theodoreolson8529 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I liked this video. I knew a little about the aircraft before but you did a great job laying out the whole story. Thanks for your hard work.

  • @dustinwolfe9591
    @dustinwolfe9591 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I'm impressed by your ability to generate interesting content so quickly. You've figured out the system, whatever it is. Cheers to you. Nice work.

    • @B61Mod12
      @B61Mod12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Easy. Don't fact check or bother to go back and correct flaws in previous videos.

    • @igameidoresearchtoo6511
      @igameidoresearchtoo6511 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@B61Mod12 "Quantity has a quality all of it's own" -joseph stalin

    • @VenturiLife
      @VenturiLife ปีที่แล้ว

      @@igameidoresearchtoo6511 ie. "More sh*t, beats less sh*t..."

    • @VenturiLife
      @VenturiLife ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I checked one of the recent videos, and it was just a full rewording of a Wikipedia article.

    • @igameidoresearchtoo6511
      @igameidoresearchtoo6511 ปีที่แล้ว

      @VenturiLife No one said he made quality content, but I don't think it's illegal to use a wikipedia article either, like, he adds nice photos and historic videos and narrates it in a nice way which is good enough, though I no longer watch this anymore lol because too little time.

  • @fleafrier1
    @fleafrier1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dark skies delivers again. Interesting to learn how advanced helicopter tech was in Germany back in ww2. Thanks for all of the great videos.

  • @964cuplove
    @964cuplove 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Allied air raid illustrated with a He 111 dropping bombs :-D

  • @josmo1363
    @josmo1363 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    anyone else expecting to hear more about the Nazi pilot the Brits got to fly across the channel with on?

    • @VerdeMorte
      @VerdeMorte 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Churchill: "Hello chap, welcome to Bristol!"
      A description of what a Post-War Turncoat Nazi pilot would hear before being executed by gunshot from behind...
      *(BANG* sound of flicked stogie)

    • @VerdeMorte
      @VerdeMorte 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @David Parry
      His name and article link or you're baiting

    • @VerdeMorte
      @VerdeMorte 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thorrollosson
      Thnx

    • @walterrwrush
      @walterrwrush 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Got to lol at the video clips that dont match anything they are talking about

  • @Red72618
    @Red72618 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If the Bombers couldnt discover this legendary helicopter. This is a big changer for this helicopter various roles in the navy, air, land.

  • @claudiomueckay4219
    @claudiomueckay4219 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is one of the best editing stories by your channel. Very illustrative with a lot of interesting facts. Congrats!

  • @briananthony4044
    @briananthony4044 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If instead of going to war, Germany had gotten into exporting it's projects, it would have become a powerhouse in Europe. The first country to use helicopters commercially and militarily. The first country to launch a payload into orbit. The first country to build a submarine that was faster underwater and could stay under for the duration of the mission, snorkel and the XXI's. First jet powered military and commercial aircraft. First use of atomic power, etc. History could have been so different.

    • @1993Crag
      @1993Crag 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      None of that was German. Helicopters had been played with way earlier by the allies, Germany launched nothing into orbit, the R-class submarine was a thing in WW1, snorkels were dutch, the Meteor was with a combat squadron while the 262 was still in testing, Germany never even got a working reactor. Are the allies just meant to forget all of this?

    • @cnfuzz
      @cnfuzz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You forgot the laser as well , also magnetic tape

  • @JUNIsLuke
    @JUNIsLuke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would almost say that this is the initial inspiration for the osprey and similar looking craft

  • @marcuswardle3180
    @marcuswardle3180 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The remains of the British captured one is said to be buried at Beaulieu. The metal parts, engine and cockpit bits were taken away. The tubular frame and canvas covering was buried.

  • @kenboo9984
    @kenboo9984 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love your videos man keep it up there’s a best out here

  • @alphatrion100
    @alphatrion100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They should use this lay-out more often. Looks cool.

  • @nickg77
    @nickg77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really didn't realize how much those bombing raids were so effective in keeping production and technology at a minimum

    • @waynevreeland3141
      @waynevreeland3141 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It got to the point the Allies were making bombing raids on dairy farms that had more than two barns and a milk house. Kinda difficult to build anything larger than a breadbox when you can't keep a factory standing for more than a month.

  • @Gladiamdammit
    @Gladiamdammit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Apparently some versions used the same rotors and linkage assemblies as the Bell, UH-1 Iroquois. Weird.

  • @F.Krueger-cs4vk
    @F.Krueger-cs4vk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Incredible, German engineering was ahead of their time in so many areas. This weapon was called Hilter's buzz saw by allies during WW2. Was used with deadly effect. 👋 🇦🇺

    • @F.Krueger-cs4vk
      @F.Krueger-cs4vk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @MrFattyfatfatboy At the beginning of World War II, Germany had progressed farther in the development of radar than any other country. The Germans employed radar on the ground and in the air for defense against Allied bombers. Radar was installed on a German pocket battleship as early as 1936.
      The missile, powered by a liquid-propellant rocket engine, was developed during the Second World War in Germany as a "vengeance weapon", assigned to attack Allied cities as retaliation for the Allied bombings against German cities. ... The US also captured enough V-2 hardware to build approximately 80 of the missiles.
      Despite the genius of physicists such as Werner Heisenberg, the German nuclear weapon program was stymied by bureaucracy during World War II. ... But they came much closer to a nuclear weapon than scholars previously thought. Koeth and Hiebert used archival materials to reconsider the Nazi nuclear program .

    • @1993Crag
      @1993Crag 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@F.Krueger-cs4vk And? The British had radar sets pre war too?

    • @thedata831
      @thedata831 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought the MG 42 was called “Hitler’s buzz saw”?

    • @tc7630
      @tc7630 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Crag_r British radar pretty much saved the RAF in entirety

    • @learninglife4363
      @learninglife4363 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tc7630 didn't Germans develop phased array radar

  • @dub2536
    @dub2536 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An impressive video. I am surprised that no one else to my knowledge has made a detailed video like this one on this Fock-Wulf project yet. New subscriber. God bless.

  • @johndough7160
    @johndough7160 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This dude is a good narrator.

    • @ludaMerlin69
      @ludaMerlin69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, he is not. Am I supposed to play the video at .75 speed?

    • @Spey_Phantom
      @Spey_Phantom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      text-to-speech, i hate it!

    • @johndough7160
      @johndough7160 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Spey_Phantom Of course you could do it better.

    • @johndough7160
      @johndough7160 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ludaMerlin69 You're simply supposed to enjoy the video without being a critical jerk off.

  • @nicholasmazzarella2720
    @nicholasmazzarella2720 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic video as always. Keep these super videos coming.

  • @platt-lepagearchive9381
    @platt-lepagearchive9381 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the USA a similar development was carried out by Platt-LePage Aircraft, with their XR-1, and XR-1A, helicopters.
    Platt-LePage would sell their twin engine transport helicopter design to McDonnell Aircraft, which became the XHJD-1, the first twin engine helicopter to fly in the USA.
    Platt-LePage had designed and patented the Tilt-Rotor concept, eventually built by Bell Helicopter, for which Bell would pay a cash settlement to Haviland Platt for the use of their Tilt-Rotor patents.
    Frank Piasecki got his start at Platt-LePage, and would develop his own tandem helicopters, and contribute many innovations that advanced rotary winged flight.

  • @Kissamiess
    @Kissamiess 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Focke's machines are nice, but Flettner's choppers are the really cool ones.

  • @Original50
    @Original50 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes, dragon is the direct translation of Drache, but in this context (a hovering thing) the alternate meaning is more likely to be 'kite'. 🤓

  • @Bearkiller72
    @Bearkiller72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Eat this, Sikorsky! 🤘😎😄

    • @Yuki_Ika7
      @Yuki_Ika7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe that they had the more stable helicopter though and it was working before this thing, both are cool aircraft though, I could be wrong it is just what I know, both were very advanced for thier time

    • @foxtrotsierraproductions8626
      @foxtrotsierraproductions8626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Yuki_Ika7 The Drache was working in 1940 the R4 i believe in 1942

  • @DeadeyeLefty
    @DeadeyeLefty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always enjoy these vids: well-researched and well put together.
    On this one, it seems like an odd omission not to include what test pilot Hanna Reitsch had to say about the aircraft years later in interviews and about flying it inside the Deutschlandhalle (indoor stadium) in 1938. It's one of the few testimonials of what it was like to jump into a brand new contraption coming from one of those who actually did it.

  • @AH-64-Apache_Attack_Helicopter
    @AH-64-Apache_Attack_Helicopter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    For the record, a chopper is a motorcycle with a long front fork!
    This is a helicopter.

    • @Tugboatpb
      @Tugboatpb 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not according to Arnold

    • @AH-64-Apache_Attack_Helicopter
      @AH-64-Apache_Attack_Helicopter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tugboatpb - 😂👍🏻

    • @Tugboatpb
      @Tugboatpb 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AH-64-Apache_Attack_Helicopter cheers 👍

    • @safetyfirstintexas
      @safetyfirstintexas 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Author is authority over definition of his content. Ask for a definition. Im sure he would give one.

    • @Pectopah123
      @Pectopah123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You pacifist..😂

  • @jamescallahan7000
    @jamescallahan7000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always like to imagine what role the German helicopters would have played in the Blitzkrieg strategy. Perhaps something akin to how the US used the Hueys in Vietnam. I love the what-if-game

  • @chrissmith7669
    @chrissmith7669 ปีที่แล้ว

    The most interesting difference to modern twin rotors is that Focke never used intermeshing rotors. He couldn’t as he had separate freewheeling clutches in each branch of the drive shafts. I’m betting that was a source of some vibration issues.

  • @timothymorehouse1255
    @timothymorehouse1255 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imagine if they had mounted some rockets and designed it a littlebit different and fit it with machine guns then it would have been epic support for the infantry

  • @epapa737
    @epapa737 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn what's crazier than 1 Drachen helicopter?!
    2 Drachen helicopters!

  • @chrissmith7669
    @chrissmith7669 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don’t forget the Fa-223 was meant as technology demonstrator and test aircraft but the Nazis didn’t have time to wait for the final configuration with actual wings instead of struts and with a proper engine instead of the low power one he was stuck with.

  • @Perktube1
    @Perktube1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9:33 - Allied air raid
    Bomber: Ach! I dropped zem too soon!
    Pilot: Relax. We shall blame it on ze Allies!

  • @milkapeismilky5464
    @milkapeismilky5464 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SUGGESTION: video on Junkers Ju88g "Ghost" night fighter. 20mm cannon pointed up @ 10°, shot down many Lancasters before the Allies figured out what was happening.

  • @Heybrother69
    @Heybrother69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved it, as always. But god dang I got like 5 ads lol

  • @JLocke573
    @JLocke573 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Germany: "Nooooo! You can't just blow up all of our helicopters!"
    Allies: "Haha. Bombs go brrrrrrrrrr"

  • @Jo-uh1mw
    @Jo-uh1mw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    reminds me in a way of the Osprey

  • @artonline01
    @artonline01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Get to da choppa!

  • @jasonm949
    @jasonm949 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    America: Oh, let's study this.
    Also America: Blow up the spare parts.

  • @von-Adler
    @von-Adler ปีที่แล้ว

    Hanna Reisch the famous test pilot, actually demonstrated flying one INSIDE a building

    • @chrissmith7669
      @chrissmith7669 ปีที่แล้ว

      And drove Karl Bode nuts by taking all the limelight. The only reason they used her for the flight in the hall was her light weight and was still a close call for the fw61

  • @constitution_8939
    @constitution_8939 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Seriously: What Info was Skipped through, beginning at "After America captured two (2) of the Only surviving models,
    They put One on their ship back to the U.S. and ""It was Ready to Destroy the Other. Yet Britain Wanted it for themselves."
    Why was the information SO Obviously CUT from 0:42 until 0:52?? It would Only be obvious with Anyone who was paying Real Deep Attention to the narration in this video and rewinding to be sure of the Discrepancy'
    Will You please answer this??

    • @christophersmith4897
      @christophersmith4897 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The French also took one home and tried to put it into production. Look at the similarities to the Alouette rotor head.

  • @azisandwich
    @azisandwich 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Was just watching dark docs

  • @Tugboatpb
    @Tugboatpb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imagine being an allied grunt somewhere in France and seeing a Nazi helicopter drop ground troops equipped with the Stg. 44, escorted by ME-262 fighter bombers while you sat there with a bolt action rifle. amazing

    • @christophersmith4897
      @christophersmith4897 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They field tested in the Italian Alps, to move artillery, resupply ammo and evacuate causalities. Everyone who saw it must have been seen as a miracle.

  • @sebastianbangheri6311
    @sebastianbangheri6311 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please make more dark skies videos this is the greatest channel I ever found about aviation!!

  • @s.oliver3687
    @s.oliver3687 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My guess is that V means Vorserie = preliminary series.

    • @garage9283
      @garage9283 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      S. Oliver versuchsmuster

  • @PongoXBongo
    @PongoXBongo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imagine a mass of these cruising into France as part of the Blitz. They'd make great tank killers and troop transports (much like their modern roles).

    • @codetech5598
      @codetech5598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are slow and vulnerable.

    • @sategllib2191
      @sategllib2191 ปีที่แล้ว

      They'd get lit up by stationary guns

    • @chrissmith7669
      @chrissmith7669 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@codetech5598 no more than our C47 flying at 1,200 feet to drop airborne forces.

    • @chrissmith7669
      @chrissmith7669 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also if they’d had a few dozen, moving reinforcements from Calaise would have taken a couple hours not weeks. D-day would have struggled against an enemy able to perform helicopter borne air assault

  • @ftffighter
    @ftffighter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Germany was so close...had this project been given more priority with resources, the 223 would've made a significant impact.

    • @brianyoung3324
      @brianyoung3324 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stuff like this wasn't Germany's hope, it was part of the reason they lost. The first generation of anything is bound to have high cost or reliability issues. Some projects paid off (Panzerfaust, StG), but those are exceptional.

    • @demonprinces17
      @demonprinces17 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Say the same for the v2, me262, tiger etc

  • @jxdigital
    @jxdigital 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    10:47 “... 83 flights with 20 flying hours each...” hmmm, seems legit.. 🤨

    • @andrewgraham6006
      @andrewgraham6006 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ye mind some test flights would of been simply taking of which is still flight so that would of skewed the numbers a bit

    • @SandsOfArrakis
      @SandsOfArrakis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aerial refueling ;)

  • @edp2260
    @edp2260 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 7:30 : Why are you showing a closeup of what appears to be the rotor assembly of a Bell 47 in a video about the Fa 223?

  • @coylehetrick1857
    @coylehetrick1857 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congrats on 100k

  • @Avio033
    @Avio033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man, imagine if they actually properly used these and figured out that you can mount manned gun turrets on the sides. The battlefields of WW2 would've been very different.

    • @yesyesyesyes1600
      @yesyesyesyes1600 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      not so sure actually. Europe is not Vietnam.
      Did Korea see extensive use of helicopters in combat? (Except search and rescue of wounded?)

    • @Avio033
      @Avio033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yesyesyesyes1600 No but we're talking about the Nazi's here. Blitzkrieg was their tactic and a helicopter would've been exactly what fitted their way of warfare. I imagine it being used together with panzer, so tanks and halftracks.
      Either way, I'm pretty sure the Germans would've been very capable or arming these things and putting them to use. As they did with literally anything.

    • @yesyesyesyes1600
      @yesyesyesyes1600 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Avio033 Good point. Battlefield recon - kind of spotter planes. Yes, that could be.
      But I can't see these choppers as wanna be tactical bombers

  • @chost-059
    @chost-059 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Could you include metric measurements for non americans

    • @ericbrown175
      @ericbrown175 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You could google it like we do lol

    • @Kieselmeister
      @Kieselmeister 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The INTERNATIONAL aviation industry uses non-metric units.
      using nautical miles per hour
      (which are one minute of angle of the earth's circumference),
      and thousands of feet.
      (Because you use whatever the airplane's altitude dial is labeled with, and the international standard had to conform to the enormous pool of existing aircraft, which was predominantly built by the USA and the UK...)

    • @epapa737
      @epapa737 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Next time land on the moon kid

    • @bebopalloobop
      @bebopalloobop 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      254

    • @kattensjingo
      @kattensjingo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I agree i have no actual sense of Feet so him saying a number and putting feet behind it makes it just zoom right past my head instead of me learning anything

  • @MegaBoilermaker
    @MegaBoilermaker 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Of all the German WW2 aircraft this was the most inventive and the most difficult to replicate.

    • @d3203
      @d3203 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The americans actually had helicopters in the pacific and even used them for extractions

  • @minhha8981
    @minhha8981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A chopper during WW2?!?!
    I still have much to learn ;-;

    • @Paiadakine
      @Paiadakine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Look up Sikorsky R4.

    • @minhha8981
      @minhha8981 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Paiadakine Thanks owo

  • @codetech5598
    @codetech5598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh, yeah, now I remember. This is the channel that takes photographs and tries to make them look like old movies.

  • @zeppelinkiddy
    @zeppelinkiddy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great information but too bad the video is spoiled with so many filler clips of other things that have nothing to do with the Fa 223. For example the rotor clips that showed a tail rotor, which obviously the Fa 223 didn't have and the two rotor hub close ups which were most likely from a Bell and didn't even resemble the Fa 223. And the oil field derricks called a "factory"..........

  • @kafakafaa3950
    @kafakafaa3950 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    In 1937 Hannah Reitsch was the worlds first woman to fly a helicopter a Focke-Wulf Fw 61, tough she actually wasn´t allowed to.
    Later she also was the first woman that flew a Jet ME 262 in 1944

    • @christophersmith4897
      @christophersmith4897 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      She worked as a test pilot for a number or aircraft of the time.

  • @roberthill3207
    @roberthill3207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent informative video thanks have a great day military aviation history buffs/nerds and dorks

  • @JohnnyC99
    @JohnnyC99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How advanced technology they had !!!

  • @cournelcody
    @cournelcody 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Aviation pioneer and co founder of Focke Wulfe, Heinrich Focke, was a pioneer “. You don’t say. Must’ve been so important you have to repeat it twice in the same sentence

  • @popefish8522
    @popefish8522 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Me: Mom, can we get an Osprey?
    Mom: No, we have an Osprey at home.
    Osprey at home:

    • @hardcorn6651
      @hardcorn6651 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Don't disrespect the OG Osprey

  • @BanterousLad
    @BanterousLad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    when is this going to be a 50 dollar premium in war thunder

  • @garysantana7906
    @garysantana7906 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The UK acquired 223 was taken to raf beaulieu, where it crashed. It was rumoured to be buried there. RAF beaulieu is not just forest Heathland. Alas, the dont allow metal detecting or the chance to go looking for it.

    • @chrissmith7669
      @chrissmith7669 ปีที่แล้ว

      They’ve searched several times. Reports from people stationed there was most aircraft wrecks were drug to the scrap yard and only the small bits buried

  • @MeBeTheDB
    @MeBeTheDB 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's a lot of "what if's ..." in the possibilities of this chopper ... hmmmm.
    D.A.

  • @TheMisleadingWoodpecker
    @TheMisleadingWoodpecker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Let's move all production to German! They have proven that they have made the best stuff back in the days. And they still makes most of the best stuff.

    • @whatelseison8970
      @whatelseison8970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Them and Japan. It seems design and manufacturing prowess goes hand in hand with fascistic tendencies.

    • @foxtrotsierraproductions8626
      @foxtrotsierraproductions8626 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you know that the Made in Germany brand was initally designed by the Allies to show" Look that Stuff is from Germany dont buy it" and then it established the legacy of german quality engineering "Deutsche Wertarbeit"

    • @TheMisleadingWoodpecker
      @TheMisleadingWoodpecker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@foxtrotsierraproductions8626 I gather all my knowledge from Ancient alien chanel. So of course I know. I ment History Chanel

  • @nicks2658
    @nicks2658 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How did Lufthansa order these helicopters in 1938 when the company was founded in 1953?

    • @d3203
      @d3203 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the first founding was in 1926. It was shut down in 45 and the second founding was in 53

  • @scroungasworkshop4663
    @scroungasworkshop4663 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Americans claim they made the first practical helicopter: On September 14, 1939, the VS-300, the world’s first practical helicopter, took flight at Stratford, Connecticut. Designed by Igor Sikorsky and built by the Vought-Sikorsky. So which one is it please. Cheers

  • @aerodyte6908
    @aerodyte6908 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imagine if they had strapped on a pair of mk108s on each side and had a gunner seat those things would have been a terror to be witnessed against infantry

  • @albundy8052
    @albundy8052 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    70 years ahead of time.

  • @thundercookie738
    @thundercookie738 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey dark skies I'm not sure if you take notice to comments but if you do could you do a video on the history and missions of the f82 twin mustang. I think it'll be a very interesting video since the concept started way back in ww2. Thanks for the videos awesome work.

  • @charlespurcell1865
    @charlespurcell1865 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's were they got the idea I bet for our newer helicopter

  • @abryg8655
    @abryg8655 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazingly it resembles the v22

  • @ChristianConservativ
    @ChristianConservativ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The R-4 / Hoverfly first flew on 14 January 1942, and was the world's first large-scale mass-produced helicopter, and the first helicopter that set the standard for all helicopter designs Vought-Sikorsky VS-300. It first flew on 14 September 1939.

  • @dragoonTT
    @dragoonTT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Gaijin, you know what to do

    • @alexzuelke5209
      @alexzuelke5209 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      gajoob please

    • @alexzuelke5209
      @alexzuelke5209 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      honestly, Br 2.0 to 3.0 premium helli would be fun, id buy it

    • @dragoonTT
      @dragoonTT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Doesn't even need weapons. Just give it a scout ability and maybe in the future add transportation goals in games

    • @foximacentauri7891
      @foximacentauri7891 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dragoonTT it should definitely be able to lift a Panzerjäger 1 or maybe even a Panzer 2.

  • @leneanderthalien
    @leneanderthalien 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    first full controlable helicopter was not this thing but the 1933 Breguet Dorand Gyroplane Laboratoire , and use contrarotative rotors like on the later Kamov hélicopters...

    • @chrissmith7669
      @chrissmith7669 ปีที่แล้ว

      A gyroplane is not the same as a helicopter

  • @andrewdaniels2131
    @andrewdaniels2131 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding highly interesting video! Thank you.

  • @yurifoxx3983
    @yurifoxx3983 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Impressive video you made 👍. Maybe you could also make one about the world's first jetbomber Arado 234🤩

  • @Rework_mentality
    @Rework_mentality 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Is this the predesessor to the osprey?

    • @828enigma6
      @828enigma6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      More like the CH-47. The Osprey rotors are mounted on wings that rotate 90° for hopizontal flight.

    • @angelogarcia2189
      @angelogarcia2189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I didn't see it crash, so no......

    • @nickb1016
      @nickb1016 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      😆

    • @bigblue6917
      @bigblue6917 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There was other designs similar to the Osprey back in the 50s but in their case the entire wing rotated. That, of course, was not a good idea as that meant the aircraft lost the lift provided by the wing.

  • @arts6821
    @arts6821 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Are you working 24 hours to post on all of your accounts?

  • @tincannavy3188
    @tincannavy3188 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always liked it when a doc that is talking about a German airplane says unfortunately the prototype was destroyed doing such and such I always find myself thinking this in response to that “was it really unfortunate that the Nazis didn’t get to use that as a weapon against the allies? Like seriously?”

  • @dekoldrick
    @dekoldrick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Look at the advance piece of technology our enemies built! Lets destroy it so future generations will never get to study it!"