Metal Shaping for Beginners: English Wheel Basics (Part 2)
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We're now going back to Basics with our Metal Shaping for Beginners series: English Wheel Basics. Wray is using our TH-cam English Wheel contiune to show the progression of the panel using the English Wheel. He talks about why he wheels in certain directions, avoids parts of the panel while wheeling and many other tips and tricks!
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Wray, you have to be ready to learn with these demos. If somebody wants electric guitar back ground music and 5 minute builds it's the wrong vid for them. But your attention to detail just does what it says on the box . So all good from me and thank you for the education, Joe
Just think of all those workshops years ago doing this as a normal daily process....... It made me smile, you sitting down... I'm 76 and would love to have a go and sitting down now and again sounds a good idea to keep me going. Chuckle!
I could listen to 2 (two) hours of your English Wheeling;!! You are offering/passing on sooo much information/data. Thank-you Wray.
Great stuff, accurate and concise, with no waffle .
you're videos are a wealth of info Wray, thanks for sharing.
Art in action
I keep forgetting this is a video about the English method of wheeling and stretching only. From watching your older videos my mind keeps going to the shrinking facilitator when I see the peaks. Many different ways to skin a cat.
Thanks for this series Wray!
Hi flocks, my vote for Wray videos in NETFLIX, minimum 200 episodes. I love it!!! Que dedicacion amigo.
I greatly appreciate all the time you invest in making these videos for our benefit. Great content and I hope to attend one of your workshops in the near future. Thanks
Another awesome video, Wray. These new longer ones are the best thing on You Tube. I would gladly become a Patreon for a full course series.
The fast forward sequence was really useful. It was easy to see the flow over an area rather than a line series. You could do larger segments of that and get more into a video.
Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge with us 😊
After 50 yrars of bashing tin im still learning so much from you wray you are the metalgod for sure
Prima vidio's ,zeer leerzaam! HJ . Nederland
I love to see the whole process, Thats the best part of this channel, Ive been a back yard fabricator for years but i still learn every day and love it.
Great video. I'm still using your coffee cup at the coffrr shop..If any of your shirts had pockets I would be wearing your shirt roo. Most of my group are blacksmith but I tell them your site has a wealth of applicable knowledge.. Your videos are not only not to long, I have watched some of them twice.
Thank you for your time! N videos..
Greetings from Tucson AZ!!!
Hi Wray
Thanks for all the knowledge you’re sharing.
Don’t worry about the people who tune out after a few minutes .
They are not, nor ever will be your target market/audience.
Hell, I’m 67 and I only just bought my first power hammer:-))
I agree with your opinion, gen x kids are not nor ever will be Wray's audience .
The devils in the detail. A passion that requires great patients.
"Patience rewards with a satisfaction that cannot be bought, you have to earn it". A Wray quote. I should make a T-shirt, Works with women too.
@@proshaper Yes it does work with women 😈, I just received the shrinking disc today try it out on the E type tub tomorrow. Thanks it’s a nice bit of kit! Cheers 🍻
Hi Wray, I didn't notice the wheels were empty. 🤔 I just figured out why it works so well. Also the 45 ° escaped me. I did not know that ! I learn something from every video. Thanks for all the tips, I love English wheel videos.
Me personally, I wouldn't get bored watching you wheel the panel fully into submission. Greatly appreciate the knowledge that I am getting from this video. I have had the Lincoln MIG welder for many years and have just bought a $350 3 in one TIG/Stick/Plasma. Used the stick and plasma so far but intimidated with TIG like you eluded to.
Check out the tig welding video I did teaching nine year old Stephen with a four minute instruction. His first aluminum sheet butt welds were as strong as the parent metal. See the video at my TH-cam homepage. th-cam.com/users/proshaper
Its amazing to see that panel slowly form. Another channel i watch is Dominic Chinea over in England. He uses a Ranalah wheel and i noticed your top wheel is much bigger than I'm used to seeing.
Wide top wheels are much better, try it and you will see. I discovered it back in 80s and have been making and using them since.
@@proshaper one day I hope to attend the class and learn "the wheel!"
Thanks for my inspiration. I’ll have to have more practice on my home built English wheel. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience with us sending a hello from Liverpool in England, Uk
Perfect timing. the two welder comparison will be very interesting too. The edge tipping will be great ,, even if you dont show all of the extra wheeling to get the fit you could do a highlights bit , so we can see the progression to a perfect fit ,, maybe show the trial fittings but skip most of the wheeling bit , or speed it up . Im sure im not the only one who would find it all of interest and not at all repetitive.
@Wray - Cool stuff. You are like the "Norm Abrams" of metal shaping.
Thank you Wray. I can’t wait to see the upcoming videos you have planned for this panel.
Thanks wray for sharing. I love the videos, long or short. Looking forward to the next one!
Really enjoying these little videos. I am now going to have a go at making my own rear mudguards as very similar in appearance to what you are making here. Off to the garage tomorrow to have a play. Thanks once again.
Awesome. Thanks for showing us how it's done!
Thanks for taking time to make your videos and sharing your knowledge.
Thank you. Very encouraging. Great lesson.
always an instructive program !! thank you for your time!!🙏🏻 regards from Switzerland 🇨🇭
Great content! Moving the adjuster on the English wheel is brilliant! I looked at several and all have the same design flaw. Thanks.
Thanks Wray very interesting and helpful tutorial.
Wray, I have been using all of your tips and it has helped the quality of the pieces i make, Thank you so much for sharing your craft.
I love this series
Hell yeah. Im down with this
Everyone take a drink when u hear flexible shape pattern
finaly someone who knows
I sped you up by 50%, but still tons of information. After part 1, this is much more challenging to see where the stretch needs to be. How many hours of working the wheel (with skilled guidance) does it take to get the feel of what to do? And how long to solo? Love the video, more than just watching the motions. I may have to see it a couple more times to absorb it.
Stick with the long videos..we need to see it all! Thanks..
You are a great teacher!
Thanks!
Have you you had your thumbs calibrated recently? Are the right and left equivalent dimensions? "One-half a left thumb to go". 👍
Very interesting ,
Just started watching your channel very good work you do.how can l make a roof top for a truck cabin ?please.
I'm going to have to watch this one at least one more time 🙂 I remember the early 80's, our family owned a couple NAPA parts stores, and I did the paint mixing. Red Lacquer or Acrylic enamel was about $30.00 a gallon, the most expensive colour and people complained about the price 😂 I haven't been able to find 3003 alum. or AKDQ sheet yet here in Montana or anywhere near. Until then it's 5052 and C.R. sheet 😢
You don't need AKDQ that is just a myth. 5052 will work a little harder but you can anneal it.
Thank you Wray for the video been watching your stuff for years am old school and been hesitant to subscribe.
I am now though Thank you for the great video! I learn a lot with each one of your videos I hope to attend one of your classes this year.
Dont worry about video length Gen X kids will never be your audience, They dont care about Workman ship or how to make things themselves. Its sad I know. so much has been lost.
Thanks! Dennis.
I am really enjoying these video's they are excellent, really very well explained, thank you. Oh and is that a Renault 5 shell in the background? Just being nosey!
Thanks! Just a LeCar that the owner wants to convert to a R5
This so very Zen! Thank you. if you started with 19 gauge, where do you think the various sections end up? 20 gauge, 21? Bigger numbers are thinner, correct?
Great learning videos! It answered a lot of my questions especially how it brings the edges down without using another tool.Would a higher crown lower wheel than you used after the flat lower passes expedite the process or create more of a problem down the road?
Higher crown wheels add area faster but also add wheel marks. Best to go up slow and steady if you are wheeling the whole panel.
I ordered some sheetmetal last week they told me they would have to order 19 gauge so I'm also using 20 gauge in tenessee
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I'm one of the guy's on the fence about a TIG welder so looking forward to the comparison. The panel almost looks chrome.
Any panel wheeled for more than 10 minutes will have a mirror finish on it if your wheels are polished.
@@proshapercan a e-w make chrome platt surface even in an panel with almost no crown?
Now i dont want you to take this as critisism i dont have any experiense at all but read alot and watched alot on TH-cam and so on and want to hear what you got to say about it.
You said that the frame has to be an spring i read about a guy built an e-w and the frame turned out to stiff. Unusable. But he put a bellerwiew washer (a spring shaped like a koncave washer) in the adjuster. He states that wheel was the best wheel he ever used. It dont flex i X or Y axis, just Z. Sounds logic to me.
I think it is to overbuild it and not really nessecary but if you stumble across heavy duty stuff and want to build a really good e-w it sounds great. :)
Have a great day :)
When the panel was flat how did you determine the perimeter shape?
loving the videos Ray, I'm going to buy the plans. do you sell the hollow wheels
Joe Paton
England
Hi Joe, Yes, I make and sell hollow top wheels
when do you have classes, Jerry
I offer classes every month with lots of options check out my website www.proshaper.com and you will find the whole array of class options and the schedule.
Could you please elaborate on going 45 to the edge? Does that add area to the panel and eliminate a wavy edge? Thanks for the videos!
Hi Ted, yes you use the 45 degree angle because if you use 90 degrees to the edge you are more likely to roll off the edge. Yes, by working the panel inboard of the edge at 45 degrees you are adding area inboard to settle the wave on the edge. Try it. Stretch an edge by working right on the edge, in minutes a wave will form. Then do the 45s and the wave will dissappear. It is that simple. It is just one of the techniques you use over and over. Memorize all the techniques and you become a master over the metal instead of the other way around.
Thanks Wray!
Nice video on how metal moves. How much extra width did you create? Thanks
Please clarify. Do you mean how much did the panel grow in length and width? I didn't measure but usually a 3' panel will grow at least 1/4".
@@proshaper That was what I was asking. Thanks very much.
Wray, i have a question.
When wheeling aluminium i get hamer like-marks on the surface. The more i wheel, the worse it gets. It seems like a dirt road effect wich also gets worse when used more.
I never had this problem with steel sheet. I've been thinking what could cause this; Material too soft? Material too thin? (used 1.2 mm to start with), lower wheel not running true enough? Pressure to high?
Thanks for your video's, i learn a lot from them.
I would suggest you check the out of round condition of the top wheel and anvils and also polish them up. I have a video called "Polishing Anvils" from three years ago, I believe you'll find answers there. th-cam.com/users/proshaper
Where os this planishing hammer attachment for wheel plans?
Patience, I work 80 hrs a week, and I barely make a dent in my tasks.
Hi Wray. Thanks for sharing such an amazing skill with a high standard of pedagogy. Just a question ( that you will find stupid perhaps ?) : why your upper wheel is so wide on your EW ? Considering that the lower anvil has always a radius profile, the contact track would be max 1" or so, even the radius of the anvil is very large. Isn't it ? Regards, Chris from Belgium (Europe).
I learned back in the 1980s that when shaping low crown panels that if you didn't hold the panel right at horizontal the edge of the top wheel will dig in and leave a bite mark. I theorized that if the top wheel was wider you would have to worry about going off horizontal because the wheel would insure you against that happening. I made my first wide top wheel and never looked back. Coupled with wide bottom anvils it is even better. You will see people that use planishing hammers use wider top dies to smooth better. Why? same reason that wide wheels work better, they bridge the low spot. Very similar to why a slapper works better than a body hammer to take out dents. The slapper bridges the dent allowing the dolly to act as the fulcrum. It is all the same rules. Traditionalism slows tool development.
@@proshaper Thanks for this detailed answer. Ones again, I'm fascinated by your easy pedagogy. For sure I have to be in phase with this explanation ... you are right, now it is evident !!!
Thank you Ray and Christopher. The question and answer clarified a lot for me. 👏👏
Why so robust a frame on the English wheel, when the upper wheel attachment to the frame is so thin?
The machine was designed correctly and works perfectly. Come to my shop and try it out anytime.
I bet that 85lb wheel was FAR more painful if you caught your thumb in it. I never understood how that could hurt that bad until I got my first English wheel. The momentum of the mass is what gets ya. A lighter wheel has to be less painful as well.
I have never caught my finger in a wheel. I did once on my lathe - broke my thumb. My 85lb top wheel was the first large top wheel I had. I only used it for a short time. The one I have on my big yellow wheel weighs about 35lbs.