I run red but Deere has its good stuff too, no manufacturer makes the best of everything. I have ran green combines but in our experience the Case has always been better and simpler to work on but the Deere is also a good machine, just not good enough to make us switch. When you get old enough you put the gripes aside and look at the good in both and we cannot make the switch from red to green even though deere does do some things better but then red does do some thing’s better
I'm a red too for the simplicity and the high reliability in long term. I grew up in European a New Holland area, so I love the Cr too. But year after year, I have seen others brands take market share...... JD, Class, fendt. But I'm not in colors wars and not close. I can switch from a case from a jd. I like JD too, especially the s780-90 models😊 I think like u, they all products good stuff
It makes sense that the 8250 can't compete with the X9, but I'm seeing a lot of reports that say the new CaseIH AF10 and AF11 are crop eating machines. I guess there was a direct comparision, a AF11 and X9 in the same field, and it's all the X9 could do to keep up.
A buddy got a phone call that reported the JD dealership only had a couple staff left out of about 50 and it is taking longer to get simple parts orders taken care of. When the dealership's staff heard about the Mexico plans and other WOKE plans, they all left and went to another company nearby....all were hired on the spot. Good people are hard to find and JD screwed up big time.
THe AF 10 & 11 is over 100 bushels more then X9 1100.Deere has been stuck on impotence with their combines since the introduction S680/S690 in 2011 because(with the exception of both X9s)they very stubbornly will not go beyond 400 bushels in their products.They have not matched the grain tank capacity of the CaseIH 8240/9240 to the new 8260/9260 very stubbornly remaining at 400 bushels.
@@generationll Hindsight 20/20, Deere seemed to have set a low bar cause of Claas really being the only other "major" brand to compete with, but I remember so much talk of the X9s being "way too big nobody will buy them". Well fast forward 4 years and look where we are at, X9s are now being used almost much as the older S780s and S790s were.
We just demo'd the new cr11 (identical to the af11) and in corn had way more capacity and power than our 780 and 790, but in beans there was a much smaller difference. The field marketing guy kept wanting us to push it harder and we did at the end of the day and instantly slugged it.
The 10T Fendt would be comparable to your combine. We run a 2011 Massey Ferguson which the Fendt replaced, wish the Massey was still around because ours has been really good for our small farm
We'll look at the issue Larson Farm had on the John Deere Combine when he had I think they said 300 hours on it blow hole through both sides of the engine block
It would interesting to see CaseIH 9260 vs AF 9 in harvesting in yield/hr but i go for AF10 having single rotor be easy to manage but i might be wrong.
First of all the X9 can't be scaled to an AF series because they are 2 different class of combines. The AF series IS the biggest in the world with 567 bu grain tank capacity, 6 bu/sec. unload rate, 775 horsepower and 396 gal fuel tank and 16 litre diesel engine while the JD X9 tops at a 420 bu grain tank, 4.6 bu/sec. unload rate, 690 horsepower, 330 gal fuel tank and 13.6 litre diesel engine.
Would assume john Deere will have to come out with a bigger one. X9 is about 5 years old. Think they're selling well. Very big farmers or custom people will want a bigger machine eventually. Wonder what resale will be on theses machines after 5 years of use. Stuff starts wearing out. Expensive to repair stuff when it's wearing out.
@@matthewvanderbeek2847 Well JD is gonna come up against the obvious which is weight, road width and height limitations if they want to "beat" the competition in size. After seeing this new series by Case, I'm gonna say JD is doesn't have a lot of options left and WILL lose that battle. Unless we start rebuilding infrastructure to accommodate new and larger machines JD will never be able to compete. And I say that's good, a bit of humility is what JD needs at this point because they have gone down a wrong turn in so many ways.
They brought out a 8250 to demo vs your X9? And wheels vs your tracks? They needed to bring out the 9260 or a AF11. Ivers just demoed the 9260 vs their 9250's.
Ivers is also a massive red power TH-camr…. Ivers and welkers will ALWAYS get the newest stuff to demo because they get tons of views. I don’t even think the 60 series machines have been delivered to customers yet.
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@@LesPaul-w4j Class 10 "The X9 1000 or X9 1100 [Class 10 and 11 combines] are for producers who need extralarge capacity and who can handle that extra capacity," he explains. According to Deere, the X9 1100 can harvest up to 30 acres of high-yielding wheat per hour and up to 7,200 bushels per hour in high-moisture corn.Aug 1, 2020
Looks like there are 5 really good combines out there , fendt, class, JD, case & newholland. The local dealers kind of make a big difference. All overpriced. Good luck with that choice.
Comparing a x9 to a single rotor combine with shoe augers is like comparing a apple to a biscuit haha. We run Claas machines wide body models. And the fact there is no separation rotor(s) and no shoe augers litterly give you so much space to clean, x9s should have similar cleaning area like a claas just with twin front rotors . Far more superior machines than a case lol
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$4dollar corn that don't justify million dollar combine doesn't matter you run red green yellow or whatever they all over price an they all break down you go with who give you best service
I believe it’s the acreage that dictates the size of the combine that’s needed . If someone has 15000 acres to harvest they sure can’t do it in a timely matter with a 7700.
Well looks like Deere done with us in less trump gets in put things back way onece was trucks tractors combines every thing new junk they really mess up every thing
@@MynameisEarl1981that's odd, since NH debuted their TR 70 in 1975, with two rotors, whilst IH debuted their Axial Flow with only one rotor in 1977. If IH were so upset at NH for bringing out a twin rotor, why have they stuck with a single rotor all these years ? It stands to reason that a twin rotor will outperform a single rotor machine, assuming same length and diameter rotors are used in both machines. The whole idea of longtitudinal rotors is much increased capacity and fewer moving parts compared to a more traditional walker combine.
I run red but Deere has its good stuff too, no manufacturer makes the best of everything. I have ran green combines but in our experience the Case has always been better and simpler to work on but the Deere is also a good machine, just not good enough to make us switch. When you get old enough you put the gripes aside and look at the good in both and we cannot make the switch from red to green even though deere does do some things better but then red does do some thing’s better
I'm a red too for the simplicity and the high reliability in long term.
I grew up in European a New Holland area, so I love the Cr too.
But year after year, I have seen others brands take market share...... JD, Class, fendt.
But I'm not in colors wars and not close.
I can switch from a case from a jd.
I like JD too, especially the s780-90 models😊
I think like u, they all products good stuff
We switched to red. Wonderful machine
It makes sense that the 8250 can't compete with the X9, but I'm seeing a lot of reports that say the new CaseIH AF10 and AF11 are crop eating machines. I guess there was a direct comparision, a AF11 and X9 in the same field, and it's all the X9 could do to keep up.
Larsons S-790 with 360 hours blowed sky high. Kibble put a new $99K plus labor to replace engine in 3 days right in the field.
That’s quite the bill nothing cheap in this industry.
3:50 is funny good job Neil
A buddy got a phone call that reported the JD dealership only had a couple staff left out of about 50 and it is taking longer to get simple parts orders taken care of. When the dealership's staff heard about the Mexico plans and other WOKE plans, they all left and went to another company nearby....all were hired on the spot. Good people are hard to find and JD screwed up big time.
Why didn’t they bring out a AF 11. That would have been great to demo it
Great video Neil
No comparison between an x9 and af10 or af11. The Red has way more power and capacity
THe AF 10 & 11 is over 100 bushels more then X9 1100.Deere has been stuck on impotence with their combines since the introduction S680/S690 in 2011 because(with the exception of both X9s)they very stubbornly will not go beyond 400 bushels in their products.They have not matched the grain tank capacity of the CaseIH 8240/9240 to the new 8260/9260 very stubbornly remaining at 400 bushels.
@@generationll Hindsight 20/20, Deere seemed to have set a low bar cause of Claas really being the only other "major" brand to compete with, but I remember so much talk of the X9s being "way too big nobody will buy them". Well fast forward 4 years and look where we are at, X9s are now being used almost much as the older S780s and S790s were.
No Caparison? really? LOL
We just demo'd the new cr11 (identical to the af11) and in corn had way more capacity and power than our 780 and 790, but in beans there was a much smaller difference. The field marketing guy kept wanting us to push it harder and we did at the end of the day and instantly slugged it.
The 10T Fendt would be comparable to your combine. We run a 2011 Massey Ferguson which the Fendt replaced, wish the Massey was still around because ours has been really good for our small farm
I would love to see a motherbin demo!
WELKER farms in Montana test drove a case AF11 in their fields they were going 10MPH in yellow peas WOW.😀
Beast mode
And what was the yield of the peas?
If crops are bad you can speed up most of the time .....
Been "done with Deere" for a couple years now. Best choice we made yet.
We'll look at the issue Larson Farm had on the John Deere Combine when he had I think they said 300 hours on it blow hole through both sides of the engine block
The Case IH Combine is a chunk of money cheaper than the Deere product !
Thanks for sharing
That cigarette would have to GO!! @1:45
LOVE THE RED!!! GREEN BREAKS DOWN WAY TOO MUCH
Well explained sir! Hello from Texas
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It would interesting to see CaseIH 9260 vs AF 9 in harvesting in yield/hr but i go for AF10 having single rotor be easy to manage but i might be wrong.
Ivers have three new case IH this year. The corn crew also checked out and 950 I believe you
10t fendt combine is jd eater
Awesome case-IH combine Neil still like X9 Better
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I would have thought they would have brought you an AF11 to demo against that X9 to give you a true comparison.
Or at least a 9260 8250 isnt even in the same class as x9
First of all the X9 can't be scaled to an AF series because they are 2 different class of combines. The AF series IS the biggest in the world with 567 bu grain tank capacity, 6 bu/sec. unload rate, 775 horsepower and 396 gal fuel tank and 16 litre diesel engine while the JD X9 tops at a 420 bu grain tank, 4.6 bu/sec. unload rate, 690 horsepower, 330 gal fuel tank and 13.6 litre diesel engine.
Would assume john Deere will have to come out with a bigger one.
X9 is about 5 years old.
Think they're selling well.
Very big farmers or custom people will want a bigger machine eventually.
Wonder what resale will be on theses machines after 5 years of use. Stuff starts wearing out.
Expensive to repair stuff when it's wearing out.
@@matthewvanderbeek2847 Well JD is gonna come up against the obvious which is weight, road width and height limitations if they want to "beat" the competition in size. After seeing this new series by Case, I'm gonna say JD is doesn't have a lot of options left and WILL lose that battle.
Unless we start rebuilding infrastructure to accommodate new and larger machines JD will never be able to compete. And I say that's good, a bit of humility is what JD needs at this point because they have gone down a wrong turn in so many ways.
@@Farmhand-Booker
They could make one a similar size
I'd replace it with a af11, maybe even a af10🤷
Should get the NH CR11 out there.
We would love to see one no dealers in our region.
Where are y’all from I’m local to everyone you was talking about?
More red combines in my area than green
You must have a good dealer.
They brought out a 8250 to demo vs your X9? And wheels vs your tracks? They needed to bring out the 9260 or a AF11. Ivers just demoed the 9260 vs their 9250's.
Ivers is also a massive red power TH-camr…. Ivers and welkers will ALWAYS get the newest stuff to demo because they get tons of views. I don’t even think the 60 series machines have been delivered to customers yet.
There's nothing Case in Case-IH combine.
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JD doesn't have a class 10 or 11 combine,the X9 is a very good combine but it's a class 9 I like my X9s but prefer my CNH have a beautiful day yall
The x 9 is a class 10 combine. The s 790 is a class 9 The af11 is a 10 plus class I do believe. It looks to be a high capacity unit.
@robertshaw4109 the X9 is a class 9 machine,it's based on horse power my research is better then yours 😆
@robertshaw4109 our 9250s were doing the same speed as the neighbors x91100 in the ssme crop 😅
@@LesPaul-w4j Class 10
"The X9 1000 or X9 1100 [Class 10 and 11 combines] are for producers who need extralarge capacity and who can handle that extra capacity," he explains. According to Deere, the X9 1100 can harvest up to 30 acres of high-yielding wheat per hour and up to 7,200 bushels per hour in high-moisture corn.Aug 1, 2020
@@chesterwass6838 Same speed.....That's about right... Cause... The X9 had the bigger wider header!!
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Our 8250 will run 5 in 200 no prob
Looks like there are 5 really good combines out there , fendt, class, JD, case & newholland.
The local dealers kind of make a big difference. All overpriced. Good luck with that choice.
Fendt? 😆
@@bradhofer4925have you ever ran a fendt machine in your life?
@ronkeking97 yes from the feederhousing to the spreader it was a disaster.
@@bradhofer4925 sure thing buddy. Just say you love john deere and refuse to chqmge
Lol. I run Case 8250. But like I said that fendt is a disaster
Like say say if you can’t afford the best drive the rest
Demo a claas, it will smoke a jd in corn anyday
problem with claas is dealer support in certain parts of the us
Ya but it's foreign
@@allanstriber5272 pretty sure they are made in omaha nebraska......
Claas makes combines here in the US, buying a Claas is buying American and supporting American jobs
Lol
they could at least bought a 8260 the newest model to try
AF11 is the one
Tell H&R to bring you a AF10 or AF11
If this is so can you send the X9 to Keith Myers please I need to get a ride in it
Probably the new John Deere s700 would be a better comparison to the Case.
Comparing a x9 to a single rotor combine with shoe augers is like comparing a apple to a biscuit haha. We run Claas machines wide body models. And the fact there is no separation rotor(s) and no shoe augers litterly give you so much space to clean, x9s should have similar cleaning area like a claas just with twin front rotors . Far more superior machines than a case lol
Why do people care? I see all this stuff every single day in real life
Because most people don’t get to see, for them it’s interesting. One major reason the American farmer is disconnected with with its consumer, major markets are in urban population centers without access to farms to discover or tour, TH-cam makes farms accessible to the average person with internet access.
$4dollar corn that don't justify million dollar combine doesn't matter you run red green yellow or whatever they all over price an they all break down you go with who give you best service
I believe it’s the acreage that dictates the size of the combine that’s needed . If someone has 15000 acres to harvest they sure can’t do it in a timely matter with a 7700.
Well looks like Deere done with us in less trump gets in put things back way onece was trucks tractors combines every thing new junk they really mess up every thing
Make the Midwest Great Again.
JD has to pay the foreign parts
Why dont everyone just by the new holland and be done first to have rotor and 2 off them everyone one else is just copying them
JD is overrated and likely overpriced. I like IH down to my Cub Cadet mower.
They all have issues...
Anything mechanical is eventually gonna break if you use it. 100 percent.
JOHN DEERE COPED NEW HOLLAND,WITH THE TWINS ROTORS,JUST LIKE CASE DID.
You do know international harvester come up with twin rotor design before new holland. There was a lawsuit against new holland from IH
@@MynameisEarl1981that's odd, since NH debuted their TR 70 in 1975, with two rotors, whilst IH debuted their Axial Flow with only one rotor in 1977.
If IH were so upset at NH for bringing out a twin rotor, why have they stuck with a single rotor all these years ?
It stands to reason that a twin rotor will outperform a single rotor machine, assuming same length and diameter rotors are used in both machines.
The whole idea of longtitudinal rotors is much increased capacity and fewer moving parts compared to a more traditional walker combine.
@@jamesbarbour8400 look it up if you don’t believe me. maybe you didn’t know as much as you thought you did
The single rotor diameter is larger than the twin. However threshing and separation area is still bigger with the twin rotor configuration.
@@jamesbarbour8400 I don’t know. Look it up if you don’t believe it.