Foil Attacks - 01 - Basic Foil Impressioning

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ธ.ค. 2014
  • (This video is part of the multi-part review and advisory posted here: enterthecore.net/foiling-the-f...)
    This is a very simple attack that is particularly effective against dimple style pin tumbler locks. Using a specially-prepared key and covering it with foil tape, it becomes possible to essentially "impression" a lock without any filing or additional tools.
    Attempting to repeatedly turn the lock cylinder will cause pins to bind and those binding pins will mark and depress divots into the foil, slowly working it down into the proper shape. The divots in the foil will push deeper and deeper until a given pin stack is in the PROPER position, at which point is is no longer binding and (ostensibly) is no longer pushing or jamming into the foil.
    While this attack can be fussy at times, it's wildly effective in the right situation. You'll see an example of a more advanced use of this method in the next video.

ความคิดเห็น • 54

  • @ernie5229
    @ernie5229 8 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Why not file the thickness of the key down a bit to compensate for the foil tape?

    • @DeviantOllam
      @DeviantOllam  8 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      that would be a good idea, yes

  • @UnitSe7en
    @UnitSe7en 7 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    "Don't gunk up the tip as you go in."
    Advice for life.

    • @corriedunstan2668
      @corriedunstan2668 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      UnitSe7en lmfao!

    • @---cr8nw
      @---cr8nw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "I wonder if we can stick it back in."

  • @Mural
    @Mural 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    More secure than most padlocks if this is a worthwhile attack!

    • @henryevans7163
      @henryevans7163 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only works with low quality locks which have high tolerances. Nobody is using it in the filed.

    • @MrNavyman53
      @MrNavyman53 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@henryevans7163 Most people that don't know about security are using low quality locks. And the same majority are the ones making the decisions.

  • @Steel-Pinnings
    @Steel-Pinnings 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    yep the obvious choice for the key is to lightly sand the key. But I found filing the key can take to much off at once and comprise the key... But the sanding like when traditional impressioning but on the sides will work wonders for you.

  • @Philbytronic
    @Philbytronic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I heard New Order and "More than This" in the background!

  • @Johnyrocket70
    @Johnyrocket70 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    seems poking a pin hole or cutting a slit in the foil over each dimple makes it work faster on other videos, also a shim was used over the foil while inserting the key. shaving the key maybe necessary to make a perfect key tool

  • @NicholasAarons
    @NicholasAarons 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweet Dude Nice Attack. Nick.

  • @carloscontreras-rq3ms
    @carloscontreras-rq3ms 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo i like ur show I love keys and locks just got me a 2585 series electromagnetic lock we'll keep it comin

  • @nereus2953
    @nereus2953 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Grandioso

  • @thefacultx
    @thefacultx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello, as anyone seen foil impressioning techniques on keso cylinder ? because similar to this one

  • @carlosmedina29
    @carlosmedina29 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Bro,
    What's the foil you used, name, trademark please. Couldn't find it as I have no name.

    • @DeviantOllam
      @DeviantOllam  8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +Carlos Medina well, the *exact* foil in this video was purchased at an ACE Hardware in the middle east. so i'm not sure i could read the name properly from it. ;-) but this is the same product... www.homedepot.com/p/1-89-in-x-50-yd-322-Multi-Purpose-HVAC-Foil-Tape-1207792/100030120

    • @carlosmedina29
      @carlosmedina29 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks DevianOllam, you have been helpfull, I'll try to find the same.
      Thanks bro ;)

  • @herbhunter5520
    @herbhunter5520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool

  • @911Locksmiths
    @911Locksmiths 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    well done mate.. not chatted on twitter for a while.. hope your doing well..

  • @joshdude2137
    @joshdude2137 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    how did i get here from beginners yoga?

  • @justingauche6475
    @justingauche6475 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So you destroy the working key in order to make one that works kinda? If you started with a blank how would you know where to make the deep dimples. Also why are some of the cuts not covered with foil?

    • @ZNotFound
      @ZNotFound 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He used a different key from the same brand.
      I don't know about the foils though.

    • @willburke6872
      @willburke6872 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There are cuts on both sides so you can put the key in both ways for ease of use, but only one side engages the pins

  • @Johnyrocket70
    @Johnyrocket70 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I put gun oil on the foil to slide it in easier.

  • @jjed4160
    @jjed4160 ปีที่แล้ว

    New order

  • @kenabi
    @kenabi 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    hah. new order. love it.

  • @greggwhite294
    @greggwhite294 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if you lost your key and can't remember where the dimples are what do you do then for this method

    • @DeviantOllam
      @DeviantOllam  8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Gregg White one would get a different key from a different lock of the same brand and style... use that key (another non-working key from the same model of lock) to deep-drill and make the prepared key.

    • @greggwhite294
      @greggwhite294 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you that is extremely helpful

  • @ericshutter5305
    @ericshutter5305 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Somyou recreate a visual copy of the original... Would have been cool IF you did it without use of the original key.

    • @littlegoobie
      @littlegoobie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the original key was drilled out so it woudln't work if you put it in. It's basically a blank with non-working dimples in it. f

  • @jethytech3454
    @jethytech3454 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    .....10years later.......!!!

  • @henryevans7163
    @henryevans7163 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This works only with lower quality dimple locks. This looks like the Duracam 70mm 9 pin dimple lock made in India. No wonder.

  • @RipplzMusic
    @RipplzMusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lazer is off... i have a different drill press but the same problem

  • @joblessalex
    @joblessalex 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone tried something similar with a normal lock?

    • @Keneo1
      @Keneo1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      These are normal locks

    • @joblessalex
      @joblessalex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Keneo1 That's a dimple, here the standard is a vertical slot with cuts on the top.

    • @henryevans7163
      @henryevans7163 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It only works on cheap dimple locks with low tolerances. It doesn’t work on regular pin tumblers with high tolerances.

  • @bridgendesar
    @bridgendesar 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You should try pranking a bike owner by changing the lock and then pretending to be a concerned citizen and calling the cops

    • @rich1051414
      @rich1051414 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      +bridgendesar So damn evil. His excuses would be exactly the same as yours if you were caught trying to impression the lock. "I know my key works, it just wont turn. Give me a minute, lock must be jammed or something". The difference is the thief would get it open but the owner would be left with his pants down, trying to prove ownership. At that point, you are no longer a thief, just an evil evil troll.

    • @jamester000
      @jamester000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lock pickers dont risk their freedom by doing stupid shit with their skills like that. but im pretty sure youre not serious

  • @virtualspokespeople4066
    @virtualspokespeople4066 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pointless if you don't know where the dimples are in the first place?

  • @thisguy916
    @thisguy916 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thumbs up for good music tastes

  • @zshare7215
    @zshare7215 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bizarre Love Triangle by New Order xD yes

  • @davidurdahl6656
    @davidurdahl6656 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nooo!!! Just the tip!!

  • @user-cg9oi5ug4d
    @user-cg9oi5ug4d 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    buy a grinder

  • @Rightwinger1982
    @Rightwinger1982 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    bizzare love triangle.

  • @bullhornzz
    @bullhornzz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    "pay particular attention to the tip" that's what he said!

  • @kevenquinlan
    @kevenquinlan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    " You Can Do It- Put Your Back Into It"!

  • @leohjones4157
    @leohjones4157 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    volume change ! dafuq!

  • @frogonlilypad
    @frogonlilypad 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    New Order is the best 👍🏻

  • @chemputer
    @chemputer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    *When* you try this at home kids