6 Times I Totally Screwed Up at Shows
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
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What time does IT start?
Why don't you strap a GoPro to your chest so u can record everything?
Thank you for the shootout it was so fun to watch. A little sad tho.
I see that toucan productions shirt you got. I'm an audio guy but I work closely with those guys alot. Cool to see you sporting them.
Can relate to Number 6
The messups that haunt me in audio is having two foh mics one to talk to artist montiors and one to talk through the main pa for pre show announcements. Grabbed the wrong one. Asked the audience how the monitors sounded. Not a fun time
Oh mannnn. Ouch
This is brilliant
Hopefully you got the response back "we don't hear them?" which means you had a good monitor mix.
I just use one TB mic on the console, a headset mic. For PA use an icecream mic. It is intuitive when they are vastly different.
@@isettech i also tape the mics with different colors
I was a stagehand for a festival, we did a quick changeover and was done about 15 minutes before Otto Knows would start playing. I was walking on stage when I tripped over the power cable to the control desk for the pyro (they controlled the pyro from a etc smartfade at stage right. No harms done they thought, just plug it right in. The moment they plugged it in, every confetti cannon went to full for half a second. The audience started cheering and I have never seen anyone's face with more stress then the pyro guys did.
Oh god haha
Fuuuuuck that
I bet i know what pyro company it is too. 🙄
At least the audience liked it xD
Although that's a good way to kick off a show or end it
When you had to go manual and your friends said "Oh man that's one of the coolest shows I've ever seen" There's something to be said here about "jamming" or "improvising" .. Using your mind on the spot with you're added urgency to make it the best you could so that the original production wasn't "missed" so to speak made it amazing to them. That's awesome Chris.. If you ask me, to be a Jedi, sometimes you have to turn off technology (timecode) and just fly and get the missile in the shoot like luke skywalker did (when he blew up the death star - watch that part again and see how you relate- for real watch it and think about this post).. Congrats on YOUR first taste of being a Jedi!
"When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
One time I had a similar error as the one where the MA file was corrupted: It was the prom night and I was the responsible student for the whole event tech crew and at the same time LD (for the first time in such a big event). We had more equipment than normally because in the graduation class was the student who was the LD for about 4 years at the school and who brought me into stage lighting and he convinced his fellow students to put a good amount of money into the stage equipment and especially the lighting stuff. So it came and him and I went through the list of stuff we would get and think about the setup we wanted to do about 1 1/2 months before the prom night. After everything was clear I would start to program the show about 1 month before the event and because I had only worked with MA one short time before and had never done complex programing in it, I learned MA 2 on the way. It was much fun and worked greatly.
Now fast-foward to the day before show: The evening before we had done the load in and we came into the venue in the morning ready to have fun hanging fixtures, building the PA system etc. It was the biggest gig of the year and we wanted it to work perfectly. So we hang all the fixtures, set up the DMX adresses and I was ready to load the showfile into the MA2 onPc we rented. I loaded it onto a USB-Stick and right at the time I thought my laptop had completly transfered it, my laptop went to a bluescreen and I was not able to boot it up again. So I thought, allright I´ve got the file on my stick and can load it in. But when I tried to load it, there was nothing but my patching and my groups, no presets, no timecode, no effects. At that time I had about 24 hours to showbegin and no lighing presets. I began reprogamming my basic presets and at the time I came home, I had to completly whipe the boot drive of my laptop and therefore the original showfile was gone (and yes, before that I tried to access it from another PC). So I had no PC where I would be able to reprogram my showfile until I came back the venue at the next morning. I took the whole day from 8 am until showbegin at 5 pm to program something and even continued to program when all the students got their certificates and stuff.
Well, in the end I had a lighting show, but it was way worse than the one I put one month of nearly all my freetime into and after that I learned to always backup your boot drive as often as it´s possible and to backups of showfiles on the run while programing.
That’s horrible. At least you got some experience on the console though
The worst feeling in the world: messing audio/lighting up at a gig.
The best feeling in the world: realizing absolutely no one pick up on the mess up!
Great content!
Whenever I mess something up in lighting it makes me mad just because I know what I had intended for it was so much better than the mistake even if no one knows that there was a mistake
I was doing a theatre show as a lighting programmer and operator I was also doing sound with a laptop. My laptop decides to do a forced update so I missed a cue, when it powered back on it made a pop through the speakers. Windows needs to stop with the forced updates.
That's why when I upgraded laptops I made sure I got a computer with Windows 10 Pro so I can turn off updates and do them on my own time. It's worth every extra penny to be able to control when updates run so nothing like that ever happens to me again
I think there is a Feature so Pause Updates for 7 days (I don’t know if this is a pro feature)
You find this feature in the default windows update window
@@12xx12100 I think that's regular Windows 10 Home but on Pro I set my Group Policies to disable updates so I can run them on my own time
Ah yeah or change that wifi connection in settings for Metered Connection On, which will stop updates. We had your problem mid-show running Titan One on Win 8.1 - show froze, laptop was busy updating. Ok it was poor but at least we still had lights on... until the laptop rebooted. We couldn't restart Titan One while Win continued updating. Blackout for desperate couple of minutes :-(
Turn updates off
One time I almost fell off the back of a riser into a giant LED wall. Another mess up I had was I was at front of house when the dj asked for a family photo and I had to sprint through the crowd to get on stage in time.
I had all timecoded show. I wass chilling and then the timecode stopped. I did the whole show manualy bur at the end almost all lights went off and they werent moving. After the show i found out that some cables were literaly chopped. We had cctv cam watching that area and guess what. One guy had an idea to chop some cables.
I was doing a show for an "affluent family". This was for like 10 people and had custom choreography and music. We loaded in at the begining of the week. Had like a a day of rehersals (which included programing the show). We did a dress rehersal and everything went fine. So we start the show with the actual family. The first half goes fine. During intermission I make one small change. The console I was using (Vista) has the ability to expand your playlist across multiple faders. I did this in order to better see the cue names above the fade. We start the second half and I hit one of the play buttons. Every light in the room turns off. Other than the tensor lights, it is total darkness. I have no idea what happened. I am checking things like blackouts, GMs I truely had no idea what happened. Finally I decided to release everything and reload the cuelist and jump to where we were supposed to be in the show and that worked. It felt like maybe 5 minutes in my head, it was probably only like 30 -45 seconds but OMG. Afterwards I looked into it more. It turns out that when you expand the playlist across multiple faders, one of the play buttons becomes an inhibit button by defult. So I must of hit the second play button and inhibited the cue, hince the blackout.
Man to this day, I still think about that cue....
Honestly its the shows where i have to scramble to fix something last minute that I've learned the most about how to creatively solve issues. Most importantly, having backups and redundancy is just second nature now; I don't go to a lighting gig with my MA node without my old single universe enttec interface for example. Haven't needed it once, but the day I don't have that backup plan is the day I'll need it.
The unpredictability of being human is half of the value in the live show. Good stuff.
I just can’t say how much I loved this intro 🤯🤯🤯🤯
Thanks for keeping up with livestreams and videos during this time, much appreciated.
My heaviest screw-up was on a conference where i was hired at the audio mixing console. It all was quite normal. We checked all the mics and everything and tweaked everything till it was perfect. Then maybe 30 mins before the conference starts the client told us, that they needed an audio-recording of a few talks. Nothing special so far. The recorder was checked again but to have a backup i wanted to record via the Yamaha QL5 Mixing Console on a USB drive as well. So i just connected my USB-Stick to the Yamaha and then the problems appeared. The display showed some kind of fatal error and the console wasnt reacting on anything. So i had to restart it and after bootup every single adjustment was gone. Not only that but also all the routing to the rio-Stagebox and so on. It was like a factory reset. There was one older backup avaliable on another flash drive. I loaded that one but we could not get the rio connected again. So we ran 20-30 XLR-cables to the patch-room and pretty much on point everything worked again. Not perfect and definitely not the way we set everything up the last hours, but good enough that the audience could hear everything in good quality. So be aware when plugging in USB drives in mixing consoles...
Wow. That is scary. I’ve definitely heard of that warning with usbs and sound consoles before lol
I remember I was doing lights for a musical and right at the climax of the show someone tripped over in the booth as they came up the stairs. woops. the confetti cannons meant for the end of the show got triggered as well as a ten-second strobe trigger. not my smoothest show ever
My biggest screw up: i was hired to do visuals for a really big festival. i pre programmed everything in resolume and i was ready to go to the show. i arrived at the festival and i put in my resolume showfile in the apple imac. (terrible computer for visuals i know) i tested the showfile and it worked fine! i programmed some more little elements and things to polish the show. i went to go eat and eventually came back and tested everything again (resolume was being a bitch so i was a bit scared) it worked just fine. 1 hour before the show i wanted to put a still image on the screen, i clicked on the picture but my screens stayed black... i quickly tested my showfile and nothing worked! i checked everything but couldnt find it. 5 minutes before doors opend i found it. the master was at 0% (even though it said it was at 100%) i had to remap the master to a different fader on my midi controller and i was able to get the screens working again. show started and everything was fine, i started the show and did some visuals. but at some point the master just kept turning on and off. i though it might had been my controller so i re mapped the master to a different fader but that didnt solve it. i kept on doing the show but everytime the master would go to 0% i would just wiggle the master fader and it would go back to 100% after the show i updated resolume and never got the problem again. im a sound engineer and this was one of my first times doing visuals for a big festival i was pretty stressed out. pretty bummed about what happend but hey shit happens right? end of the story the client was happy and the guests had a pretty freaking amazing night.
Sounds scary lol
Yea I once mapped a master speed in resolume to a midi controller, I lock the Windows and left for cup of water while midi devices will still take affects, might be sombody accidently messed up the master speed knob and when the show is on everything plays laggy. couldn't find the problem until the show almost ends, terrible experience.
Great Vid, actually felt super tense when you described the Showfile/laptop issue. Incorrect power connectors, leaving fixtures parked after support bands (sorry Avolites user), Definitely been through most of them. I wouldn't trade any of the screw ups/failures they are way more valuable in terms of learning that everything going smoothly all the time, learnt a lot of lessons the hard way but it makes you a better engineer. I've found i've become much calmer in difficult situations where before i used to panic, now i can work the problem using stuff i've learnt from previous. Everyone makes mistakes but as long as you don't repeat them its all good. Yeah but some i look back on and cringe.
Yep! It is super cringe but endlessly valuable
Listening to these stories made my stomach turn and brought back memories of the biggest screw-ups I've made... makes me feel a little better that the best mess up once in a while aswell with the same things :) Best of luck and hope you get to have a show soon again!
As long as the lights change the punters don’t notice the screw ups
Facts.
My biggest screw was: i was LD and operator, and that was my first show with that band. I was operating on a Chamsys desk, that was not an issue, i know it very well. That day was during an heat wave, it was a very very very hot day.
So, i was programming stuffs, checking my beams and positions, and suddenly, the Chamsys gone mad, the screen turned totally weird, like all white with very stranges red lines, arabics and chineses letters, and after a short moment, the desk died. It was still on, but totally crashed. I tried to off it, on it, nothing happened, and it was not responding at any command. So, I tried to do an hard reset, which on Chamsys is a tiny button a the back of the desk. The time to find a little tool to make that, i dit the hard reset, and.. nothing, same shit. For sure the desk was totally overheated, so I tried to find more fans, and also plastic ice pack, to cool it down, emergency way. It took me a moment to find all that, ask to the crew, find a freezer etc. After all that time, I get my ice pack, I finally succeed to cool down the desk, i did the hard reset, and, miracle, the desk returned to life.
BUT, during all that looong time, i was so concentrated on the desk to find a solution, that I didn't noticed that some of my fixtures remained actives on stage. And one of my spot was focused straight to the back of the cello of my artist (and friend), and it was in a narrow beam, at full, in white. The cello started to "burn"... Actually, there was no hole in the wood, but the varnish was blistering, and the back of the cello was quite... black.
For the first show with them.... I felt so... miserable !!
(but we are still touring together, and the insurance paid for the cello repairs ;) )
(Excuse my poor english, I'm french)
Long long time ago I was the lighting tech in a smallish theatre (500 seat). Had a judged festival weekend with 3 short plays per night back to back with 10 minute changeovers. House rig was an ETC Express 72/144 and a Lee Colortran dimmer rack with a variety of typical stage lights, pars, leko's, source 4's, fresnels, cyc's, etc.
Part way through the first play, a couple lights start flickering off. Check the board, everything looks good. Assume it's cable issue or bulbs or something simple...but then others start flickering as well, every 10-30 seconds a part of the stage would go completely dark for a split second. This continued as we tried to hunt down the issue and felt like it kept getting worse. First play done, grand drape is closed and we're back on worklights, and of course, flickering is gone as we check a few fixtures.
So on with the next play, same thing, flickering starts mid way through the show and gets progressively worse until the end. Next changeover, power cycle the dimmer racks which are boiling hot. Limped through the last show of the night with less trouble. Turns out, a bunch of dimmers are basically cooked and we swap out a few critical ones with the couple spares on hand and move a few lights around to other dimmers and make a few changes to max output levels to get us through the weekend.
That damn dimmer rack gave us trouble for the next year or so I was still working in that theatre and of course there was no budget to replace it all, nor would the problem happen consistently except during big/long shows.
Of course, sitting in the back watching these lights flicker distracting the actors and audience and possibly affecting their judging but not able to fix it was just the worst feeling in the world.
So weird to hear about the timecode issue with Zomboys set last year! I wasn't at BC but saw lots of videos and was like "Woah, trippy stuttery visuals" -- not thinking that it was an issue. Now that I now, its much more obvious: th-cam.com/video/tAOja-LixHk/w-d-xo.html Still looks sick from a non-LD person perspective! :)
3:20 And now you obsessively triple-check that little cloud with the checkmark on it that you get after the "All changes saved to Drive" message. 🙂
I do sound an open mic night coffee house thing. I patch in my mixer because I've spoiled myself with wireless control.
Each musician gets 2 songs and then they go on to the next one. Two musicians in I realize I miss patched my cables which is why I'm not finding things in the right spot.
Once I realized it wasn't a big deal I literally Hot Patch between the next group.
I finally thought of one but they don't keep me up at night anymore I've learned to learn from it and move on. I've had some really terrible ones which in the moment I just feel horrible then a couple days later I go well nobody died.
I have an IT career in controlling all different kind of devices (i guess smart home lighting comes closest to this) and i can truely imagine the stress these mess-ups can cause.
And i love the story telling, maybe you have time to do more show stories that are remarkable.
Man, your stories gave me nightmares! I got caught with the Powerkon adapters on rented Maverick MK2 Spots before. Also had several times running software based control where the computer freezes and/or crashes. That sucks!
Great video and we have all be there at least a dozen times. I'm FoH audio for a band that spent most of the summer opening for REO. So we get to our last show of the tour with them, which is only 90 miles from my shop. I make all of the calls and arrange to bring my own FoH mixer for sound. I am a Midas Pro guy. The venue has Ethernet ran for me and life is good. It comes out of the wall 10' behind my console (this will be important). Anyway, sound check if fabulous we are on a really solid PA and I have been having a great time. So, one other opener before we hit the stage 15 minute change over. First opener finishes and we are doing change over, at 9 minutes until show time I notice that I am only getting signal from 1/2 of my stage box. We have no Vocal signal. So like all rational people I brought my own Ethersnake 20' tails. I call to the stage and have a hand get in my trunk, dig them out as I head to the stage. We change the stage set...same problem. Re-hookup the stage set and take my tails back to the mixer. I replace the mixer to wall set that they had provided with mine...mixer locks with 1 minute 30 seconds until down beat. Everything was great from there on out. Sometimes you get the bear and sometimes the bear get's you...as I always like to say...let's do a little bear hunting and see where we end up.
One more thing. I know just about as much about lighting as you know in you pinky fingernail / 200,000. I do enjoy your videos. I especially enjoyed your review of the ONYX NX4. Be safe and enjoy.
Big fan Christian!!!!
Audio guy here, also left a DCA way down and figuring out why the sound is not coming out through the PA.🤣
My main screw up was audio based at an outdoor event even though at heart I'm really a lampie. I instructed a freelancer to setup foh, run dmx video and audio cables etc and various other jobs. Fast forward 3 or 4 hours to when the lighting, pa and video system was powered up and a horrible buzz sounded through the pa at the (thankfully drunken) public. I was convinced of a dodgy xlr cable or issue with the amps being plugged into a 3 phase distro which was also powering a dimmer rack. Lots of cable swapping, sweating and swearing later I realised the freelancer has connected the entire foh setup to the end of an (unearthed) festoon harness as a posed to running in a new power feed! Literally hours wasted trying to solve that problem when I should have been sound checking. The screw up was overestimating the ability of others and not being aware of their knowledge/ experience.
as someone who watches these videos in awe and feels like ill never be able to do this, hearing one of the best LD's around say that its never flawless and that screwups really do happen, for the fct its obvious, is so reassuring. makes me feel like my screwups in my high schools lighting dont mean im gonna be a complete failiure in the real world.
I relate so much to this, I’ve had my fare share of mistakes on gigs. But I always have one thing in the back of my head and that is, the show always goes on and gets done.
I once managed to turn of the power for the whole backstage video, LED Wall, Playback and Streaming department. We were about 1 minute before start and had to delay it quiet a bit since all the computers and gear needed their time to re-boot. And sadly, the video mixing desk didn't save its settings, so the first quarter hour was getting layouts, media players, labels and everything fixed while doing the stream. Quiet stressful moment for many techs.
Halloween 2017. I was programing for a friends band. Been programing until 9am. Finished, left house and start setting up the stage. No sleep for me.
We were supossed to get Phantom 140 spots. We got Phantom 140 beams.
I programmed everything using visualizer on avolites. When i got there, all the fixtures were 45º panned to the right.
I didnt knew i could go on patch window and give it a 45º offset, so i pannicked, and started to redo all my position pallets on the spot blindly, while the 1st act was on. (it was one of those gigs you finish the setup and the show starts. No lighttest...)
After 1/2 hour rewriting every pan and tilt value of every position i had, my worse nightmare happened.... Every position was blank... 5 mins for the gig to start. That version of titan had a specific way to do it. If you didnt do by that especific way, it would just erase every data stored on that button.
I had to re lunch my old file with the 45º offset and everytime i swtiched possision, i had to re send all my moving heads to the front.
Here is the result XD
th-cam.com/video/hrH3_wMq1VQ/w-d-xo.html
This feels like more than I deserve without paying you!
I'm a audio engineer and have no idea what a good show is, like you said at 22:49. Quite different from music. Please show us some good shows. I used to be happy if I got some lights on, but then I got older and now it's awkward.
I can relate to this... Here's one from a crew chief's experience(mine haha). Going over the change over time holy fuck I remember vividly thinking I was going to be sent packing after a festival... The band I was with(and still am even after all of this haha) rolled into a festival with a new floor package that had been prepped and show ready. The package was designed to cover 6 points of a stage simple shit... My usual approach for a festival change over is simple have all my cables staged and ready to plug in once the floor package is set in place, again simple.... Well I had one local with me who did a good job when we went in, in the morning and loaded our floor package... The one thing I didn't pay attention to after everything was said and done was where he placed all of the upstage data and power cables which the upstage package was half of our ground package haha.... Anyway I fucked up completely by NOT double checking where everything was... All of the upstage cables were buried in what had become a mess and chaos by the time we were set to change over(took me about 25 minutes after we were done to find them), at this point it's just me for the change over and all that's going through my head with the LD screaming in the radio that he's not seeing anything upstage... Is holy fuck I'm an idiot!! Why?? I deserve to get fired for not double checking this!! To conclude the local stage manager comes up to me and says my friend you're running over by 2 minutes... 2 minutes might not seem like much but in production it's a lot especially when you're behind on shit... The show went on just with no upstage ground package, by that point it was fuck it we're going without it... Well the camp I'm with was cool as shit... Their response ehh don't sweat it kid it's rock n roll.... One time that happened that was in 2014 never ever ever again will that happen.... I still curse myself for this.... Sorry this was so long but well this shit is real and it happens haha cheers
At the end of the day we are all humans and none of us are perfect, relying on technology built by humans that isn't perfect. I have had a few occasions but I'm not immediately bringing to mind any but I always come back to the saying that I heard at a training session.
"If at the end of the day nobody died and the show went on, nobody will remember what happened" sadly it's true.
We just have to live with the knowledge that we will have to discover what happened to fix it so it doesn't happen in the future.
So if you're facing a problem take a deep breath and try and figure it out to the best of your ability and don't hesitate to ask for help.
Adam Savage gave a talk about failure, definitely worth watching.
>link<
Although I do remember a church service where we had somebody wheeled out on a gurney during worship, not sure to many people realize that happened. I mean I was in the tech Booth running slides only ten feet away and we barely realize what happened until the paramedics came through the door.
The detail in the red/blue difference is insane. Even the lysol label changes color!
Hey bro, thanks for your video. We have all stuffed up many times in our career. In the current situation am definitely missing spending time planning and designing shows for Ax and Lx and livr events and excitement as a whole. Hope you're doing well and see you in Asia soon.
I am a theater techie so I don't do major events like this, but I have had my share of screw ups. The biggest one was this: The person that designed our theater did a bad job and they decided that it would be a great idea to plug the power for the lighting console and audio mixer into the type of power strips with a switch on it. It was opening day for the show and everything was going perfectly. I was feeling a little far away from the desk so nudged my chair a little closer. When I did this, everything in the theater went out. Me and the other techies at the table dropped several curses and then tried to troubleshoot what was going on. Little did we know that as I had nudged my chair, my foot had hit the switch on the power strip causing the boards, LAV receivers, etc to lose power. Since then, we have put a plastic cover over the power strip so that it never happens again.
Yeah I plugged six led lustres (source 4)into an alpha pack…..thankfully I forgot to plug the rack in….I was employed by the lighting designer for a artistic dance and Ariel gig that was being filmed he couldn’t make the dates.The lustres and profiles were rigged in rig by the climbing rigger, he hadn’t done much lighting before all the drops for the power we’re behind a curtain blacks I rigged earlier in the day. I plugged all plugs into the alpha packs.. I go to lighting desk turn it all on and nothing…. I them around and realise the alphas didn’t have any power.. move the curtain to find the wall sockets and see a load of power drops just hanging there.. climb up the rig and realise they were to the profiles…. The rigger had helpfully put 13-15 amp jumpers on the ends for me….. I now always check every lamp and every power drop….
Second one was I designed and operated the AV for a theatre show… it used 5 projectors linked through 4 older MAcBooks…. Anyway halfway through the the 2 week run I am setting up on auto drive chatting to sound op as he and I are only ones in the theatre at the time… I walk around turn on all projectors.. yeah I forgot to turn one on… thankfully it was used for two images only… first one was just a background piece … second was was writing that followed the actor pretending to write down and reads it of the wall as he goes…… DSM and SM says as over cans that no projection on wall…. I then frantically find the file and program it into Qlab on the fly on another projector that had an image mapped window near where the original one was meant to be… Say to SM where writing is going to appear so the actor can shift their gaze….. The actor was the only one who go the truth… everyone else believed that when I took the projector home that nought it was to repair it.. last one was a snow machine that was meant to give a gentle fluttering of snow at the close of the show…. Must have knocked the switch… cue 30+ 2-4 year olds getting a blizzard of snow to close the show…..
No body in the audience knew anything was off. They are all trippin balls! Don't sweat it! You are the MASTER of what you do!!!
I once had a similar problem with the MA show file. I was doing the system design and some of the acts for a bigger indie festival. As I was to get there one day late there was no time to check the stage myself. Everything was up and running by the time I arrived, double checked my showfile and made shure I was up to date regarding software and all other stuff. Even asked my project manager about the versions and his reply was "Yeah we´re up to date with the latest software release done by MA Lighting, make sure you use the latest version." That's where things started to go wrong. Guess who arrived with a showfile in a newer software version than the console had... Oh so entertaining to see an empty file with just your patch and some saved views. Ended up redoing all my stuff (luckily had time for that) and nearly killing that fucking idiot of a PM. Lesson learned here... Not to speak of the many times I had clients who decided to ditch their plans on "I won't leave the stage" in company events, the grand fuckups working at a tradefair center gives you (overheating HDMI cables... Who takes into account they might produce dropouts above a certain temperature?) and other entertaining shit.
Great looking shot. Love the practical lighting and the Lysol :)
this video made me nervous
Awesome video and information ! Thank you Christian!
I remember how excited you were about the Seattle LTC show, my heart was bleeding for you.
Man, I really think home shows are bad luck. Every time my tour does a show in my home city, something goes wrong. Last time my tour came to town I woke up the morning of the show with a fever and clogged sinuses. Not ideal when you're FOH. Might've been a slightly louder than normal show...
the hardest part about lighting for me was that disheartening feeling where you know the crowd knows no difference between a good and bad lighting job. You either didn't get enough prog time and work with bare minimums, or you got the programming in but ran it in a way you weren't expecting.
Brave post, I love some of these stories, thank you for sharing!
mixing audio on a digico sd8 hit the master mute instead of fader bank change halfway through a set with 1200 crowd still haunts me
So i'm still a baby LD still in school learning things and I had a project where I had to pick a song and create a lightshow to it from scracth using the GrandMA3. During this specific class month tho was the first time our school used the Ma3 for this project, usually we used the GrandMa2 and so everyone including instructor was trying to figure out how to work the GrandMa3 , how to transfer files over, how to get it to sync with Lightvison , everyone had to deal
Long story short when it was time for me to perform my lightshow I realized only half my cue list was there and i was programming to an EDM song and my lights cut out right before the beat drop , i tried to do some stuff on the fly but it just looked absolutely terrible. I ended up just stopping my show and explaining to my instructor and the two classes that sat in to watch that my file corrupted and I just don't have enough experience to finish on the fly. I'm the only person wanting to do lighting design after graduation so i know everyone was looking to see what I was going to come up with and i was so embarrassed that I couldnt finish my show ugh worse thing ever.
What school? :)
@@anshh113 Full Sail University!
''especially video'' hahahahahahaha oh man, sadly true
this is the gold. thanks for sharing these.
It’s funny how if lights or video don’t work properly, most people don’t notice. But audio screws up for 2 seconds and the FOH engineer has 10000 eyes on them mad about the sound
I only had mono on a wedding. They are both single now.
Well my biggest screw up was on a show that was just before lockdown: We had several LEDs hanging on a truss with some dimmer controlled halogen lights. Well it turned out that the LEDs started to flicker if we wouldnt have the halogen lights either at 0% or 100%. Well those halogen lights where 2kW Fresnels and Front light for the Band. Under normal conditions i would run them at max. 40% to get the warm light out of them. But running them dimmed srewed up the LEDs. So i go and select the LEDs, turn the Dimmer Value to 0% and park them. Later in the show i needed to use the hazer but it wouldnt come on. I could not turn it on what ever i was doing. Even overwriting the cue with programmer values didnt help. I see the lights that are connected to the hazer via DMX are working so the universe is working fine. I let someone on stage check the hazer. It even gets a signal to turn on the fan. Sure enough i managed to select the hazer when parking the LEDs in dimmer 0%. The hazer is controlled via 2 channels, dimmer for Haze and fan for fan. So my srew up is somewhat similar to your one with the opening act.
Btw im using the GLP Impression 2 1024 and i hate the philosophy that programmer values dont overwrite parked ones.
Another example for a screw up is on my timecode. Right before the timecoded song started we wanted to check if the signal flow works. So Sound puts on timecode and i recieve the signal. Everything working fine. Sound stops Timecode. I need to turn off timecode and turn it on again in order to be synced when it restarts. Somehow i missed the button to turn the timecode on and the dancers where dancing in comlete darkness for arround 1 second. I skip the troubleshooting and go directly to play the cue manually. When there is some light on stage i went into troubleshooting and turned on the timecode again.
Yeah this is never ever going to happen to me again
On number 6 I thought you were going to say the version of MA on your laptop was later than the festival console!
You ever had that feeling that you should put your console on a UPS before a show but don’t because one isn’t easily available?
Getting a PTSD flare up just hearing this stuff.
Been though this a few times in the beginning. 😅
Very humbling dude. We've all had more then we'd like to admit but it's how we learn from them that makes the difference.
My most memorable is dealing with those cheap indoor Chinese sparklers. Had 4 of them setup down stage for the headliner fully loaded, same address, warmed up and ready to go. We had a pretty famous local blind guitarist opening, a great guy and wicked guitar player, who was standing right in front of sparklers at one of his solos. All the sudden that ONE sparkler decides it can't hold on anymore and blows it's load nearly in his face. The whole FOH / Stage Crew is glaring at me like I just tried to blind the blind guy. I shut them down as fast as I could and will never trust them ever again haha I had to defend myself against the stage manager who thought I did it deliberately, even though they were all the same address so that would be impossible lol
HAHAHAH oh my god.
Thanks for sharing this was insightful
Ayeeee you was the lighting guy for Camelphat :).
Thanks for sharing!
I think I need to share my worst F up. So there is this show I used to do as audio FOH. Around 700 peolple. The show is with the same act every friday every week for 10 years, of which I have done 3. The Pa company who I work for and the venue are in the same town. So I load the van to be 30 minutes earlier at the venue as I should have been. As I start to unload the van I see that I forgot the FOH case with the mixing desk at the pa company...I raced back, got the case and was back at the venue in time..I have never feld that ammount of panic..
The anxiety in this video is too real. The worst experience I've ever had, was doing a show for a church that were recreating the nativity but as a musical. I had hundreds of cues set up and it was just a matter of hitting go. Everything runs smoothly until after the interval where there was a rainbow scroll kids dance scene, I hit go for next cue once it ends and nothing happens. In a panic, I hit go again and can see the cue jumping along in my cuelist but only some of the lights go off while others remained on this dreaded rainbow scroll. In the end, the show had to continue with deep emotional scenes happening with a rainbow scroll running. In that moment, I wished somebody just shot me to put me out of my misery. After the show, because I was using house power, somehow 2 wireless DMX receivers that were in the roof, got fried mid-show and there was absolutely nothing I could do for 40 mins but sit there, with a director on the verge of tears next to me.
Windows write caching! it's where windows will cash the files that need to be written to a drive and then not write it until a time Or before you hit eject.... yeah. Always eject your thumb drives and removable media, I've even heard of people corrupting there's for not doing it.
Amazing bro!
basically, i ' m in the console testing everything was ok, all lights working property and the whole show works good, so i m like, ok i m good, drink some water waiting to start and the event start so im running the show and one of my client ask me if i notes that the lights are a little down or its him thinking like crazy. so i told him, NO what, all the lights are good, do u see?. so he say, Okey good do your work fine.
After that im in the chair thinking about what he told me and i really see that maybe some lights are a little be down so i started thinking that maybe he was right, so i ' m checking all my playbacks and cue and i see that everyting is ok so i just forgot.
at the end of the show im like ok go home and something im my mind told me that check everything once again and i stard looking all in the console when i saw that the master fader in the right of the consoole (ma2) was a little down like a 60%. in that moment i knew it that i really I screwed it up
Never watch your Chanel before. Respect for telling these stories on you tube. If you come to copenhagen i’ll buy you a beer and i’ll share some of my screw-ups.
Been in the game for 21 years so there are to many to write about 😉
Shout out from Accra, Ghana. We love you here.
Thank you for watching
ah..... all this talk of the good ole times makes me think of the day when I backed up my show file I had been working on all day on a thumb drive that was just purchased and never formatted. I later had to shut down the console to move it to FOH as I was working directly in front of the stage all day for a better view to focus and went to boot it up with said thumb drive inserted while booting and needless to say, I flipped out for the next 30-45min wondering why the console wont boot up? my only back up was a laptop with not even a wing. so as were getting dangerously close to show I get the idea to try and boot up the console without the thumb drive and see what happens? and bam! So much time wasted and clearly looking like a guy freaking out rather the calm calculated look.
The situation you explained with timecode you went thru was crazy man! what is the design thought behind a product that you can "by accident" hit the touch screen and kill the out put yet the thing still shows that its outputting? damn that would of pissed me off man, I might of smashed that thing? if it was me and I found that out.
Have you ever heard the story about the days when the Hog 3 was new and one of the first big premier tours it debuted on was the rolling stones and How the programmer lost it because it was constantly crashing so he threw it off the FOH riser into empty seats during soundcheck?
Thanks for sharing the content, watching this video now as we are just starting to get back to work again sort of makes me miss the stress and challenges of getting thru and trouble shooting these types of problems.
Thank you for this! It is a fair video. LD is hard work!
i remember doing lighting for a panto on a MA1 ultralight desk and programmed the lighting which were robe 1200at spots and washes with martin atomic 3k strobes, and when show started and wanted low level to start off with to build up the atomic 3ks came on full pelt nearly blinding the audience the robe 1200ats were moving and doing their thing but no light output so i was going through the desk trying to figure out what was going on why i couldnt get light output from the moving lights but giving the audience onslaught of strobe then i looked back and realised i hadnt selected the fixtures i needed as first time using a MA and i mainly do sound and at the interval the stage manager and my colleagues thought it was hillarious the first 10 mins of strobe nothing else i laughed it off and said im not sure this panto was meant to be rock and roll
did a huge festival (about 15 years ago). Budget for providing audio was smashed already (mostly in house gear.. but still needed to rent a bunch of specific consoles, wedges, & misc. gear for headlining bands). One of the things that our fledgling little sound co. didn't have yet was a proper festival power distro and feeder. So, instead of renting what we needed, my broke/cheap ass gets the bright idea to use our little Furman Rack mount ASD100 units for a BIG FESTIVAL MAIN STAGE. Not good. Blown breakers and brown outs all throughout the headliner's performance. Tens of thousands of people witnessing our fail. Fucking nightmare. Needless to say, after that I identified our "weaknesses" and spent big dollars to get the right gear so things like that NEVER happen again.
So, after the last zomboy event you talked about, what was the problem? What made it happen that you didnt get timecode singal or get a corrupted singal
That resolume version had problems with the sound card I was using
Holy shit ... where did you get that tub of bleach wipes??!?
My kitchen
I once had a 7.8mag earthquake stop one of my shows...new Zealand sits right in the middle of the Pacific plate...fucken terrifying
Wow. That’s insane
Did you ever figure out what caused the timecode gremlin to show up in that last screw-up?
and hes back!
you should do more videos like these ones!
I felt the pain 😣😣😣
I once unpluged the mixer bij acident in the middle of a show
Totally relatable :D atleast we learn everytime :D
How do you guys handle the fact to screw up ? I did a conference recently and video team were streaming live on internet. All was okay but first, my spot on the ground started to strob and turn for no reason at all. Handled it quick and that was okay. But they did once more like 30 minutes after, for no reason once more ( Dmx card dead ). After this problem, I just wanted to check the fade time of a cue ( Another guy created it for the audience entrance and it was " fast call button ", things that i didn't knew ). I just click on the top of the sequence to check out and all went on the new position as well, with gobo, color and stuff. Handled it in 15 seconds to set it all back on track. But video operator goes really angry then. I know this is not so bad at all but finally I'm saying to myself, " during conference, don't touch anything at all " ^^.
How can I start as a lighting technician??
Hey got a question dose this MA Software cost money??
Why aren't these #$^%& faders working??!! Darn fader group selection switch. LoL. Ranks right up there with folks swapping 3-pin XLR audio cables w/ the DMX cables in your runs. :)
My little big fuckup. Theatre, premiere, great idea to change some gels in conventionals above audience just before the show starts, forgot to turn off catwalk lights, the show is supposed to start with necessary blackout, which just wasn´t there. Lots of facepalms, lots of apologies.
what is the "ground package"? i speak spanish.
Extra portable lighting used for one act during a festival
@@christianjackson Thank you!
Laughs in controller
Here at 20 views. Yaaay
Ok no need to flex your Clorox wipes on us
Edit: Lysol
Lysol
Wireless mics. Enuff said.
Please nevwr change your channel icon please
Not planning on it :)
dont call cameras stupid
you can rent my 2 cdjs + 1 djm for 250 a night
@13:00 that’s kinda fucked up intentionally restricting the look of the opening act making them look bad so the head liner looks better, why can’t everyone just look the best they can if you got it use it!
It's Standard practice. Usually the openers aren't paying for the full lighting rig, if they're paying for it at all.
Hi ! The story about « PowerCON True One » and « Group Master » happened to me too !
I feel less alone 😂😜🙏😇 ! Best regards !
We need more of "Subconscious Christian" 🤣
He might make some more appearances
I call him nega-Christian though