in LA, the roads USED to be public transport. they knocked down train lines and walkable parts of the city to build freeways when they got bought up by general motors. they are now very much private transport.
Actually it was because people wanted to drive cars, not general motors (though I will admit general motors probably did have a hand to play in it). The market wanted cars, not trolleys or subways.
@@tombolt13thexehanort29 correct, all the new cars created more traffic that made it impossible for the streetcars to function - plus, poorly designed contracts kept the streetcar companies liable for road maintenance while not being allowed to raise fares.
@@tombolt13thexehanort29 general motors bought up large areas used for transit, business, and leisure alike. there was an increase in "anti jaywalking" propaganda at the time. it insinuated that crossing the street is for the mentally inept. of course, where the money and marketing leads, people will follow. but this was more of a brainwashing social pressure than a conscious choice. do not let them fool you.
@@tombolt13thexehanort29 GM lobbied to repeal laws keeping cars off streetcar tracks, which caused said streetcars to get stuck in traffic. Þe streetcars getting stuck in traffic resulted in less reliability, pushing people to cars. When þe companies þat owned þe streetcars went bankrupt, þe auto industry bought and dismantled þem.
To quote Not Just Bikes (or as near as I remember it) "American cities weren't built for the car. They were demolished for it." Yes we utilize some of the similar terms to where other places use for public transport because it's all we have.
Los Angeles' highways aren't efficient and Los Angeles wasn't built for the car. It was built with trams and public transportation in mind (Pacific electric railways) but it was demolished for the car and highways. Entire neighborhoods were demolished for highways and they wanted to do the same in London. They just didn't manage to finish the plan until public opposition got in the way, like in the Netherlands *cough* plan jokinen
Þe Neþerlands was rebuilt for cars after WWII. It faced þe same problems wiþ traffic and realized one more lane wasn't helping, so þey started reversing course. While þey still have a ways to go, þey're ahead of most of þe developed world.
@@TheRockkickass So what? Should New York City not work to pedestrianize just because it's not þe entire US? Should Detroit stay a car dependent shithole because of how big þe US is? Most trips, should þe proper infrastructure be available, can be done by foot or bike. Not everyone goes cross country constantly. Edit: I looked it up and þe Neþerlands is 41850 km^2 (16160 mi^2) while Rhode Island is 3144 km^2 (1214 mi^2). Of þat, water constitutes 18.41% of þe Neþerlands and 13.9% of Rhode Island. Þe Neþerlands is 13.3x þe size of Rhode Island or (if we don't count water) 12.6x þe size of Rhode Island.
Los Angeles used to have a tram network that could take you anywhere without needing to own a car, be old enough to have a licence or to be legally sober
Back then L.A. was a fraction of its current size population and physically. A tram can easily take you everywhere if most places were just sand and orange groves.
@@xandercruz900 if they're frequent enough and the city wasnt brought to the ground and rebuilt as spread out and low density as it is it wouldve been a good system, along with more transport options like subways and cycle paths
@@nevreiha There isn’t a reality where that would have happened. The trams were built on property speculation to get people out of downtown and into farmlands where they would build houses everywhere. When the tram system went bankrupt downtown Los Angeles attempted multiple times to have the Los Angeles area bring it back as public transit but the surrounding towns kept rejecting it because they saw it as downtown merchants trying to assert dominance again As long as that dichotomy between downtown and the more populous neighborhoods surrounding it persisted that tram system would have never been rebuilt
I grew up in Las Vegas and was in London yesterday, weird hearing a British person describe streets I grew up near. Even weirder to imagine anyone would willingly live in Las Vegas of all places
I've lived in both. It's definitely an easier life for the individual if you're capable rich enough to afford a car in a car centric city. However, a city with good public transport is wayyyyy better if you're a child, physically disabled, old, poor, enjoy drinking. It saves the environment, it makes people healthier, it creates fun, pedestrianised cities, there is a smaller lifestyle divide between the rich and poor. I grew up relying on my mum to drive me everywhere. If I wanted to visit a friend, I needed to ask her. She was usually busy or tired so I never socialised upside if school until I was old enough to buy a car. I could quickly visit, go home at any hour etc. I couldn't drink though. In a city with public transport, kids are wayyy more independent because they can go to friends house and come home anytime. They're not reliant on another person.
I don't see how being car-dependent is easier for *anyone* , because life would be upended or strongly disrupted when the car is disabled or unavailable. Car tax and maintenance is a financial drain on top of upfront costs
@@hobog there's no truly car dependent major city. Los Angeles for example actually has an extensive bus system and they have a light rail system as well. Of course, if you're unfamiliar with it, and don't have access to Google Maps (or equivalent GPS map application) you'd find it hard to use....but that's true in any major city.
putinsgaytwin, there's actually an extensive bus system and a light rail system in LA. I don't know how to drive and I can get around down there just fine. 🙂
In LA, you say "there is not a bus corridor that goes along I-110 or I-105, I can safely assume without looking into it" Wrong, there is a busway on the 110 that shares a lane with the express toll lanes, carrying a bus rapid transit line and several commuter buses. Also, the 105 has a light rail line in its median, as well as several bus lines. Sure, transit in LA is not great, but you chose the two worst examples for this point. If all freeways in LA county had this level of transit, it would actually be a quite popular option for getting around.
The green line also runs on the freeway. Even though they’re not pleasant to be around I wouldn’t be opposed the LA using every freeway median for metro or metrolink trains. They’re already spending $100 Billion (measure m) for non highway alignment underground and elevated trains across the city and I think median running transit could also complement that system at a very low cost
@@jarjarbinks6018 yeah, the only tricky thing about highway median transit is that it makes the first/last mile problem difficult. The silver line bus and green line train stations are super unwalkable since you’re surrounded by freeway. Also it is unpleasant because cars are very loud. But if the connecting bus would come every 5 minutes, it could be quite useful. But for now, Metro and LADOT transit agencies could run a ton more freeway express buses, and make the existing commuter express buses run all day instead of peak hours. That would effectively transform the freeway system into transit and save riders tons of time. It would cost a ton of money to run every year, but could end up being way cheaper than widening freeways as planned.
The thing is pretty much any mode of transport that's widely used induces demand. Homes businesses and public services pop up around the major roads and subway lines and highway exits. So given long enough, that mode of transport will be an efficient way to get where you want to go
From southwest of Chicago, finding streets is very easy here because Chicago is a grid city and all the east-west streets are numbered in ascending order the further south you go. In the proper city every street has a general name but also a number below it for how far it is from the center, for example the intersection of Armitage & Halsted is 2000 N & 800 W, which makes navigating a lot easier
I recently immigrated from South Africa to the UK and man... The UK's road network is a complete and utter joke, I'd honestly be suprised if there's anywhere else on earth with a less effficient road network. I was so taken aback that I calculated my average distance traveled vs time spent traveling from South Africa to the UK and I shit you not, I am able to travel twice as far in South Africa in almost half the time as I am in the UK... Job opportunities, public services and living standards here in the UK are significantly better than that of SA so I can't complain that much but good fucking lord it's so painful trying to get around anywhere in this little island.
Well, it is mostly a myth that American cities were built for cars. The suburbs were, and the traditionally walkable downtowns were changed and/or bulldozed for cars. Most American cities before the 30's were pretty well served by public transport, with tons of tram lines (LA was once the city in the world with the most extensive tram network). But then all of those tram lines and a lot of train lines were closed. Entire neighborhoods of pretty dense city centers were bulldozed. You actually mentioned it when in the video. I mean, many new areas of cities which were built after cars were the norm were planned with the highways and interchanges designed in. But those stretches of highways that cut through older parts of the cities (many cross right through or right next to downtown) are there because a lot of bulldozing and displacement happened. There's a pretty great Instagram page (called "segregation by design") that posts aerial views of American cities comparing the 50's (before massive freeway construction started) and later from the 80's and now. It is just insane how some cities were destroyed to give way to highways.
ibx2cat, the Google Public Transit layer appears to only show rail lines. If it were configured to show bus lines as well, the whole city of Los Angeles would be covered in public transit. As far as I-110, there is actually both a light rail line and a bus line that goes down that area. 🙂 (bus 81, light rail J line.)
"In the UK". You mean in London. The rest of the UK's cities were originally built around pedestrians and public transport, but they scrapped all that and now rely on cars instead. So you get the worst of both culminating to make the most inefficient way of travelling possible.
I have an element of admiration for the British... But watching the way London constantly gets preferential treatment over Scotland, Wales, N Ireland and even other parts of England frustrates me
@@lazygongfarmer2044 Not only that, for several non-Europeans, mainly from USA, they look at London as the whole EU/Europe. Saying that New York and Los Angeles are more different than London, Madrid, Rome and Tallinn, because every European city is London apparently.
Honestly such a good and well-thought out take /genuine The Beckton comment “go on the DLR until you want to die, you leave the station and then you actually die” I fucking LOST IT,,, one of the best jokes on yt ever
Vegas locals mostly aren't used to talking about the I-11 yet, since it's only been designated that way for a few years. Eventually I-11 is going to be complete from Vegas to Phoenix and Tuscon, but Arizona doesn't seem to be in any hurry to do it. But most of the part of I-11 you'd have driven going to Hemenway Park to see bighorn sheep, existed as I-515/US-95/US-93 beforehand, and continues to be called "the 95" by locals. The junction between I-15 and US-95 is called "the Spaghetti Bowl" by locals, but it's not even close to the most ridiculous interchange in the country.
I realize it’s more tongue in the cheek but highways in the US absolutely can be forms of public transit. In the Seattle area for instance I can take the 512 express bus from its own dedicated freeway offramp/station in south Everett (Seattle suburb) and travel to Northgate station (about 20 miles away) in 30 minutes. That’s not super impressive but it also isn’t terrible considering that driving depending on the traffic may only vary in time by 10 minutes or so
it is not public transit since you need to own a car to use it and you can't just get into someone else car. also, it is bad for the environment and highways have destroyed our cities
i remember watching your mc vids in 2017 from a warehouse in vegas and now im watching your geography vids while u live in vegas xD. Also yeah I agree with giving street names
Diabolical supervillain takes the tube and coughs on you , far superior method of causing mass misery than the inefficient method of loud noise explosives or the superslow method of watching people get fat in their person autos being too lazy to take a 5 minute walk after the super delicious fast fatty food they got thru the drive thru .
I am a Floridian and to describe someone where we are or where something is we typically say it is off and Exit of a highway. For example its off exit 60 of I-4.
I mean, yeah roads are public transit but the use of roads in many American cities simply are the less safe, less environmentally friendly, less efficient, and more personally costly option that was chosen over building an efficient or extensive transit network.
Lol in Perth Australia there a cannington. But agree Australia is bad with public transport compared to London. For me to get to work it's a 12 min drive or I can take 2 buses which is 45 mins according to the transport website but now i can catch a train to the airport from the cbd
There are parts of the UK where there is public transit but it's slower than driving or even cycling. The middle between villages and cities. Somewhere like Warrington where there are trains passing through but they're expensive inter-city trains that are only accessible to a minority of the borough, so financially or physically it may only make sense to use the bus, which is also expensive and takes an indirect route trying to service as many bus stops as possible.
You need to remember that the U.S. interstate system was initially built as a civil defense measure, so that troops and supplies could be moved around the country if ever needed in order to defend the mainland from invasion. Moving civilians around efficiently was a secondary objective at best.
People say this and it was true in 1954 for the vast stretches of the country, but the urban sections of the interstate are definitely not a civil defense measure lol.
@@ibx2cat - The urban interchanges came later, after the economic benefits of the initial interstate system became apparent, but the initial enormous cost of the original build was justified as civil defense. I don’t think that Congress would ever have allocated those funds for a mass civilian transportation system. Funny: The internet that we are using to communicate was also originally developed as a multi path military communication concept. That has also morphed into a civilian communication highway of sorts. I guess that if you build it, for whatever reason, people will find the way to use it.
@@ibx2cat They were attached as riders in Congress, or something along those lines; most likely due to the auto industry's influence. The original concept eschewed urban freeways
I live in vegas and the only investment in public transportation they invested in besides roads is the crappy monorail that's always broken, spans 3 or 4 blocks, and is a 1 way line, embarrassing
In Denmark we have good public transportation in cities from where you can reach most towns by train or highway :-). Sure, still missing some but still, you can do both.
You are missing a key part of the American system. Addresses begin at one central point, and the addresses grow outward. They then start over at the next street. So your Las Vegas example of the corner of Sahara and Cimarron, Cimarron is the 82nd block. So after crossing Cimarron going west, the addresses are 82xx (like 8206, or 8251, etc). Any east-west street that crosses Cimarron separates the 81xx block from the 82xx block. Addresses make it easy to find anyplace.
10:28 if people got off that train if it pulled into the station so full, then that's not inefficient, as long as the train wasn't stopped long and good train frequency was maintained
I can't speak for bigger cities like LA, LV, SF, etc, but here in Kansas City the highway is a very efficient way to travel. It's nice being able to hop in the car and get to work on my own schedule. Not a trains, or bus schedule.
Nice. It bad to do bad things? Thanks for such great advice. Oh, and thanks for the FYI on not wearing my underwear, such wonderful information to know. Thanks .....
Works in London perhaps. In my medium sized city in W-Europe it doesn't. I always have a hard time describing where I live. People (often from suburbs) don't like taking public transport, so they have no clue about the lines and stops. Obviously they don't know all street names either. I mostly say it's close to this hospital or that shop or so and hope my interlocutors have a vague idea what I mean.
While they are publicly funded, they cannot be used by all of the public. To be able to use a highway (in most states) you must first have a car to be in. Even just a taxi or rideshare can be far more expensive than a bus or train.
This was a great video explaining things I understand as an American! I was thinking you should really take a trip to st George. It's small but there's a ton to do outdoors! And it's so much prettier than Las Vegas
1:40 depends on the area, some states or even just cities have dedicated lanes for buses and public transit as well as some having car pooling lanes. Fun fact some American cities had trolleys and the like, but Americans chose the car because they enjoyed the freedom and privacy, not some corporate conspiracy. To answer your question, no, adding more lanes technically doesn't help. Usually in America you don't say "the" in regards to highways, you say "state" or "interstate (or i)" then the number. It isn't a big deal, but saying i-90 for example just adds clarification. The roads are actually quite cheap to build in comparison to subways and the like (5 to 10 million per lane mile compared to 50 million per line per mile both ways of subway).
Andrew is over here promoting weight loss through cutting off limbs which seems pretty legit, while all these other TH-camrs are in hot water for promoting Established Titles.
Do Americans just never drink alcohol, or are they constantly drunk driving? (Genuine question - having seen American versions of drinking I imagine it’s the former).
This is the hottest take on planet earth
it's the global warming from driving on all those roads /s
I mean the argument is basically transportation functions as transportation around the world. It's just setup differently
in LA, the roads USED to be public transport. they knocked down train lines and walkable parts of the city to build freeways when they got bought up by general motors. they are now very much private transport.
Actually it was because people wanted to drive cars, not general motors (though I will admit general motors probably did have a hand to play in it). The market wanted cars, not trolleys or subways.
@@tombolt13thexehanort29 correct, all the new cars created more traffic that made it impossible for the streetcars to function - plus, poorly designed contracts kept the streetcar companies liable for road maintenance while not being allowed to raise fares.
@@tombolt13thexehanort29 general motors bought up large areas used for transit, business, and leisure alike. there was an increase in "anti jaywalking" propaganda at the time. it insinuated that crossing the street is for the mentally inept. of course, where the money and marketing leads, people will follow. but this was more of a brainwashing social pressure than a conscious choice. do not let them fool you.
@@tombolt13thexehanort29 GM lobbied to repeal laws keeping cars off streetcar tracks, which caused said streetcars to get stuck in traffic. Þe streetcars getting stuck in traffic resulted in less reliability, pushing people to cars. When þe companies þat owned þe streetcars went bankrupt, þe auto industry bought and dismantled þem.
My dude, this has been a debunked conspiracy for decades.
To quote Not Just Bikes (or as near as I remember it)
"American cities weren't built for the car. They were demolished for it."
Yes we utilize some of the similar terms to where other places use for public transport because it's all we have.
Bulldozed
Not Just Bikes is based.
Not Just Bikes is the worst urbanism TH-camr ever
Not Just Bikes is annoying asf
Our society was not built for the automobile. They destroyed the environment for it.
Los Angeles' highways aren't efficient and Los Angeles wasn't built for the car. It was built with trams and public transportation in mind (Pacific electric railways) but it was demolished for the car and highways. Entire neighborhoods were demolished for highways and they wanted to do the same in London. They just didn't manage to finish the plan until public opposition got in the way, like in the Netherlands *cough* plan jokinen
Only the downtown was built like that. The LA metro was fully built for the car
Þe Neþerlands was rebuilt for cars after WWII. It faced þe same problems wiþ traffic and realized one more lane wasn't helping, so þey started reversing course. While þey still have a ways to go, þey're ahead of most of þe developed world.
@@Demonic_Culture_Nut Netherlands is also the size of Rhode Island so it pretty easy to do that. And it’s way more dense population wise
@@TheRockkickass So what? Should New York City not work to pedestrianize just because it's not þe entire US? Should Detroit stay a car dependent shithole because of how big þe US is? Most trips, should þe proper infrastructure be available, can be done by foot or bike. Not everyone goes cross country constantly.
Edit: I looked it up and þe Neþerlands is 41850 km^2 (16160 mi^2) while Rhode Island is 3144 km^2 (1214 mi^2). Of þat, water constitutes 18.41% of þe Neþerlands and 13.9% of Rhode Island. Þe Neþerlands is 13.3x þe size of Rhode Island or (if we don't count water) 12.6x þe size of Rhode Island.
@@Demonic_Culture_Nut why would I want to bike or walk anywhere when I can drive?
Los Angeles used to have a tram network that could take you anywhere without needing to own a car, be old enough to have a licence or to be legally sober
Back then L.A. was a fraction of its current size population and physically. A tram can easily take you everywhere if most places were just sand and orange groves.
@@xandercruz900 if they're frequent enough and the city wasnt brought to the ground and rebuilt as spread out and low density as it is it wouldve been a good system, along with more transport options like subways and cycle paths
People can handle L A sober ?
You can still do that with Los Angeles buses, and they get stuck in traffic just like they did 100 years ago!
@@nevreiha There isn’t a reality where that would have happened. The trams were built on property speculation to get people out of downtown and into farmlands where they would build houses everywhere.
When the tram system went bankrupt downtown Los Angeles attempted multiple times to have the Los Angeles area bring it back as public transit but the surrounding towns kept rejecting it because they saw it as downtown merchants trying to assert dominance again
As long as that dichotomy between downtown and the more populous neighborhoods surrounding it persisted that tram system would have never been rebuilt
As a former resident of Beckton and Canning town i am profusely offended and totally agree with your analysis
Every decent human being who's lived in canning town has *lived* in canning town. Probably Thanks god not anymore
@@ibx2cat fax
@@ibx2cat is this the esteemed British language?
I grew up in Las Vegas and was in London yesterday, weird hearing a British person describe streets I grew up near. Even weirder to imagine anyone would willingly live in Las Vegas of all places
The entertainment is world class. Vegas is basically famous and loved for the same reasons as Dubai or Macau. Even tho the terrain is, uhhh, rough
@@lazygongfarmer2044 las vegas is flat it's surrounded by mountains though. It's build in the middle of a valley
@@gotworc That too
i can’t believe you chose the one freeway in LA that does indeed have a bus corridor
I've lived in both.
It's definitely an easier life for the individual if you're capable rich enough to afford a car in a car centric city.
However, a city with good public transport is wayyyyy better if you're a child, physically disabled, old, poor, enjoy drinking. It saves the environment, it makes people healthier, it creates fun, pedestrianised cities, there is a smaller lifestyle divide between the rich and poor.
I grew up relying on my mum to drive me everywhere. If I wanted to visit a friend, I needed to ask her. She was usually busy or tired so I never socialised upside if school until I was old enough to buy a car. I could quickly visit, go home at any hour etc. I couldn't drink though.
In a city with public transport, kids are wayyy more independent because they can go to friends house and come home anytime. They're not reliant on another person.
I don't see how being car-dependent is easier for *anyone* , because life would be upended or strongly disrupted when the car is disabled or unavailable. Car tax and maintenance is a financial drain on top of upfront costs
@@hobog
there's no truly car dependent major city.
Los Angeles for example actually has an extensive bus system and they have a light rail system as well.
Of course, if you're unfamiliar with it, and don't have access to Google Maps (or equivalent GPS map application) you'd find it hard to use....but that's true in any major city.
putinsgaytwin, there's actually an extensive bus system and a light rail system in LA. I don't know how to drive and I can get around down there just fine. 🙂
That large highway he talks about is real small compared to some stuff I've seen in California
Katy freeway Texas
@@TheAmericanCatholic fr. Although Cali does come quite close as a second
In LA, you say "there is not a bus corridor that goes along I-110 or I-105, I can safely assume without looking into it"
Wrong, there is a busway on the 110 that shares a lane with the express toll lanes, carrying a bus rapid transit line and several commuter buses. Also, the 105 has a light rail line in its median, as well as several bus lines. Sure, transit in LA is not great, but you chose the two worst examples for this point. If all freeways in LA county had this level of transit, it would actually be a quite popular option for getting around.
The green line also runs on the freeway. Even though they’re not pleasant to be around I wouldn’t be opposed the LA using every freeway median for metro or metrolink trains.
They’re already spending $100 Billion (measure m) for non highway alignment underground and elevated trains across the city and I think median running transit could also complement that system at a very low cost
@@jarjarbinks6018 yeah, the only tricky thing about highway median transit is that it makes the first/last mile problem difficult. The silver line bus and green line train stations are super unwalkable since you’re surrounded by freeway. Also it is unpleasant because cars are very loud. But if the connecting bus would come every 5 minutes, it could be quite useful.
But for now, Metro and LADOT transit agencies could run a ton more freeway express buses, and make the existing commuter express buses run all day instead of peak hours. That would effectively transform the freeway system into transit and save riders tons of time. It would cost a ton of money to run every year, but could end up being way cheaper than widening freeways as planned.
Tourist: "I think I might check out Canning Town."
Londoner: "You HAVE to see the KFC there. It's amazing."
The thing is pretty much any mode of transport that's widely used induces demand. Homes businesses and public services pop up around the major roads and subway lines and highway exits. So given long enough, that mode of transport will be an efficient way to get where you want to go
From southwest of Chicago, finding streets is very easy here because Chicago is a grid city and all the east-west streets are numbered in ascending order the further south you go. In the proper city every street has a general name but also a number below it for how far it is from the center, for example the intersection of Armitage & Halsted is 2000 N & 800 W, which makes navigating a lot easier
I recently immigrated from South Africa to the UK and man... The UK's road network is a complete and utter joke, I'd honestly be suprised if there's anywhere else on earth with a less effficient road network.
I was so taken aback that I calculated my average distance traveled vs time spent traveling from South Africa to the UK and I shit you not, I am able to travel twice as far in South Africa in almost half the time as I am in the UK... Job opportunities, public services and living standards here in the UK are significantly better than that of SA so I can't complain that much but good fucking lord it's so painful trying to get around anywhere in this little island.
I love that this channel increasingly becomes more and more of an elaborate shitpost. Never stop, Toycat
as someone from vegas, boulder city is definitely the place we go if we want to see some sheep in a mountain
I live in Seattle without a car luckily we have good buses
They’re also expanding rapid ride which is pretty cool
Lucky
The phrase that is used in America is "Take the # exit and then turn..." The most important detail is what exit and then which direction to turn.
I saw a car window sticker today in the shape of a Massachusetts state highway, exit 3. The freeway is engrained in the American psyche
Question : Why have you been living in Vegas? Long term trips or business related?
Yes
Ah, on the run.
@@ibx2cat toycat sure is yes
Yo
True
I guess roads are public transport with a much much higher subscription fee
I'd like to see your reaction to how the US numbers their highways and also the small off shoots they have for them.
We number motorways, and have slip lanes. ?
How about making a video of how other countries number their motorways...?
@@Liggliluff that would be awesome too
We build bus only highways in the US where I live. The roads ARE public transport. They also have been extending subway tunnels and adding bike paths.
Where are you?
Must be the Northeast. They hardly do any of that in almost any states in the South or West
@@lazygongfarmer2044 correct. PA
Pittsburgh?
Well, it is mostly a myth that American cities were built for cars. The suburbs were, and the traditionally walkable downtowns were changed and/or bulldozed for cars.
Most American cities before the 30's were pretty well served by public transport, with tons of tram lines (LA was once the city in the world with the most extensive tram network).
But then all of those tram lines and a lot of train lines were closed. Entire neighborhoods of pretty dense city centers were bulldozed. You actually mentioned it when in the video.
I mean, many new areas of cities which were built after cars were the norm were planned with the highways and interchanges designed in. But those stretches of highways that cut through older parts of the cities (many cross right through or right next to downtown) are there because a lot of bulldozing and displacement happened.
There's a pretty great Instagram page (called "segregation by design") that posts aerial views of American cities comparing the 50's (before massive freeway construction started) and later from the 80's and now. It is just insane how some cities were destroyed to give way to highways.
ibx2cat, the Google Public Transit layer appears to only show rail lines.
If it were configured to show bus lines as well, the whole city of Los Angeles would be covered in public transit.
As far as I-110, there is actually both a light rail line and a bus line that goes down that area. 🙂 (bus 81, light rail J line.)
"In the UK". You mean in London. The rest of the UK's cities were originally built around pedestrians and public transport, but they scrapped all that and now rely on cars instead. So you get the worst of both culminating to make the most inefficient way of travelling possible.
I have an element of admiration for the British... But watching the way London constantly gets preferential treatment over Scotland, Wales, N Ireland and even other parts of England frustrates me
@@lazygongfarmer2044 Not only that, for several non-Europeans, mainly from USA, they look at London as the whole EU/Europe. Saying that New York and Los Angeles are more different than London, Madrid, Rome and Tallinn, because every European city is London apparently.
Actually there is a bus corridor along i-110, in l.a at least - I used it for a month - the metro silver line bus (Now called J line I think)
7:40, we drive 18 miles per hour above the speed limit because we all are Doc Brown and Marty McFly.
1:41 Actually LA has a BRT route that operates on the 110. LA and its suburbs use highways as public transport to some extent
LRT is better than BRT imo
Honestly such a good and well-thought out take /genuine
The Beckton comment “go on the DLR until you want to die, you leave the station and then you actually die” I fucking LOST IT,,, one of the best jokes on yt ever
12:01 These lines are almost highways them self. that's mind blowing.
1:36 Oh no... the 110 has the amazing J Line BRT, and the 105 was famously built to accommodate the C Line light rail.
Vegas locals mostly aren't used to talking about the I-11 yet, since it's only been designated that way for a few years. Eventually I-11 is going to be complete from Vegas to Phoenix and Tuscon, but Arizona doesn't seem to be in any hurry to do it. But most of the part of I-11 you'd have driven going to Hemenway Park to see bighorn sheep, existed as I-515/US-95/US-93 beforehand, and continues to be called "the 95" by locals.
The junction between I-15 and US-95 is called "the Spaghetti Bowl" by locals, but it's not even close to the most ridiculous interchange in the country.
I realize it’s more tongue in the cheek but highways in the US absolutely can be forms of public transit. In the Seattle area for instance I can take the 512 express bus from its own dedicated freeway offramp/station in south Everett (Seattle suburb) and travel to Northgate station (about 20 miles away) in 30 minutes.
That’s not super impressive but it also isn’t terrible considering that driving depending on the traffic may only vary in time by 10 minutes or so
Even if you can argue roads are public transport, they still aren't very good at it, generally.
“Kockfosters”- I can’t believe that is an actual train name. 😂
it is not public transit since you need to own a car to use it and you can't just get into someone else car. also, it is bad for the environment and highways have destroyed our cities
US: public transit is either neglected or requires paying for a car to use. Big fat L
However for the cost of a full-flow interchange you can build an a cross platform interchange with trains being timed to be at the same time.
though still an intresting question.
Hearing toycat talk about places in my city is so surreal
i remember watching your mc vids in 2017 from a warehouse in vegas and now im watching your geography vids while u live in vegas xD. Also yeah I agree with giving street names
Wait did you go up to Oatman? That's pretty cool
I hereby christen you a honorary American, due to your vast knowledge of the place and your time spent there. Keep up the good work.
I christen him an honorary American for giving the hottest take imaginable about car-dependent infrastructure.
Certified American classic
Calling a road public transport is misleadingly dishonest given it requires a great deal of personal investment to utilise
Diabolical supervillain takes the tube and coughs on you , far superior method of causing mass misery than the inefficient method of loud noise explosives or the superslow method of watching people get fat in their person autos being too lazy to take a 5 minute walk after the super delicious fast fatty food they got thru the drive thru .
the part about identifying with the subway station closest to you is also true here in Moscow
Drunk driving isn't the issue, it's the drunk crashing that gets you.
I never noticed the colour thing in the tube tunnels! I'll keep my eyes peeled the next time.
This video have to be sarcastic.
I am a Floridian and to describe someone where we are or where something is we typically say it is off and Exit of a highway. For example its off exit 60 of I-4.
I’m from Maryland and we usually just say the name of the road you’re exiting on to
I mean, yeah roads are public transit but the use of roads in many American cities simply are the less safe, less environmentally friendly, less efficient, and more personally costly option that was chosen over building an efficient or extensive transit network.
To some extent there's a parallel between paying for a personal car and paying more in taxes to fund a bigger rail infrastructure.
@@dhfenske Rail cost about as much to build as does highway.
Toycat, as an Urban Planning student, this video is a miss. Please do better than this.
A better comparison would be London vs NYC or at least LA. Las Vegas has less than 1/6 London's population.
0:55 I recommend the youtuber Nandert for videos overviewing+critiquing plans for LA's public transit
Lol in Perth Australia there a cannington. But agree Australia is bad with public transport compared to London. For me to get to work it's a 12 min drive or I can take 2 buses which is 45 mins according to the transport website but now i can catch a train to the airport from the cbd
Kockfosters would become a lewd remark in the USA.
Fun fact, NYC has a higher transportation budget than London 16 billion to 10 billion
NYC is also the second richest city in the world (behind Tokyo)
There are parts of the UK where there is public transit but it's slower than driving or even cycling. The middle between villages and cities. Somewhere like Warrington where there are trains passing through but they're expensive inter-city trains that are only accessible to a minority of the borough, so financially or physically it may only make sense to use the bus, which is also expensive and takes an indirect route trying to service as many bus stops as possible.
new videos have next level quality
You need to remember that the U.S. interstate system was initially built as a civil defense measure, so that troops and supplies could be moved around the country if ever needed in order to defend the mainland from invasion. Moving civilians around efficiently was a secondary objective at best.
People say this and it was true in 1954 for the vast stretches of the country, but the urban sections of the interstate are definitely not a civil defense measure lol.
@@ibx2cat - The urban interchanges came later, after the economic benefits of the initial interstate system became apparent, but the initial enormous cost of the original build was justified as civil defense. I don’t think that Congress would ever have allocated those funds for a mass civilian transportation system. Funny: The internet that we are using to communicate was also originally developed as a multi path military communication concept. That has also morphed into a civilian communication highway of sorts. I guess that if you build it, for whatever reason, people will find the way to use it.
@@ibx2cat They were attached as riders in Congress, or something along those lines; most likely due to the auto industry's influence. The original concept eschewed urban freeways
Why do I enjoy these videos 🤦♂️
13:07 when you don’t know about existence of traffic light
I’m confused the point is you don’t stop. Please elaborate
is it me or is the webcam getting worse and worse every video?
I live in vegas and the only investment in public transportation they invested in besides roads is the crappy monorail that's always broken, spans 3 or 4 blocks, and is a 1 way line, embarrassing
In Denmark we have good public transportation in cities from where you can reach most towns by train or highway :-). Sure, still missing some but still, you can do both.
People take these videos too seriously lol
Makes it much funnier when people are full of hot air lol
Every morning I get to work by stepping outside, and telling the nearest person that I work in a shop right by [x] street!
Yesterday I no joke watched a 2cat video while driving home from work 🤔
I always love that you use my hometown of Las Vegas
Highways aren't public transport, dude.
I’m not saying I disagree; I would just appreciate some reasoning.
It's just weird to say "roads in America are actually public transport", why specifically America? What about roads in the rest of the world?
“They can’t turn off the tube lines” tube strikes: I’m about to end this man’s WHOLE CAREER
You are missing a key part of the American system. Addresses begin at one central point, and the addresses grow outward. They then start over at the next street. So your Las Vegas example of the corner of Sahara and Cimarron, Cimarron is the 82nd block. So after crossing Cimarron going west, the addresses are 82xx (like 8206, or 8251, etc). Any east-west street that crosses Cimarron separates the 81xx block from the 82xx block. Addresses make it easy to find anyplace.
10:28 if people got off that train if it pulled into the station so full, then that's not inefficient, as long as the train wasn't stopped long and good train frequency was maintained
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You just need more space to transport every 1.5 pepole in ther own metalbox insted of 1000 pepole per biger metalbox
Well, puplic transportation shouldnt require a privat vehicle.
Why?
@@TheRockkickassit makes it harder for poor people to access it. Almost like that’s the reason it was chosen over public transit in the first place
@@roccoisdaman and I should care about poor people why?
@@TheRockkickass that about sums up the mindset of most anti-transit people.
@@roccoisdaman well it’s not. Don’t be poor
I can't speak for bigger cities like LA, LV, SF, etc, but here in Kansas City the highway is a very efficient way to travel. It's nice being able to hop in the car and get to work on my own schedule. Not a trains, or bus schedule.
In a big city the trains are so frequent that you don't need to worry about their schedule either :)
@@ibx2cat Yeah they are frequent, but you said it yourself that there could be a 9 minute wait for the next train.
@@nicholas104 honestly thats rare, it also depends on where you're going
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Actually in LA... there are bus routes on the freeway and the stops are... on the freeway!! LOL You have to see it to believe it.
15:25 WinCo Foods is the bomb.
Heyheyheyheyheyheyhey isn't this another second channel video where we talk about the world and stuff?
Yes 10 above the speed limit is the way to go😂
Works in London perhaps. In my medium sized city in W-Europe it doesn't. I always have a hard time describing where I live. People (often from suburbs) don't like taking public transport, so they have no clue about the lines and stops. Obviously they don't know all street names either. I mostly say it's close to this hospital or that shop or so and hope my interlocutors have a vague idea what I mean.
this was a topic designed by AI to drive comment engagement
Londners or Londoners
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While they are publicly funded, they cannot be used by all of the public. To be able to use a highway (in most states) you must first have a car to be in. Even just a taxi or rideshare can be far more expensive than a bus or train.
This was a great video explaining things I understand as an American! I was thinking you should really take a trip to st George. It's small but there's a ton to do outdoors! And it's so much prettier than Las Vegas
there is a public transport line down the 110. It's called the silver line
Ur takes are so hot. But I like my takes just as hot as my food. Keep it up toycat
LA wasn't built for the car, it was bulldozed for the car
EXACTLY
The villagers in stone could pop into stoke for their daily commutes
1:40 depends on the area, some states or even just cities have dedicated lanes for buses and public transit as well as some having car pooling lanes. Fun fact some American cities had trolleys and the like, but Americans chose the car because they enjoyed the freedom and privacy, not some corporate conspiracy. To answer your question, no, adding more lanes technically doesn't help. Usually in America you don't say "the" in regards to highways, you say "state" or "interstate (or i)" then the number. It isn't a big deal, but saying i-90 for example just adds clarification.
The roads are actually quite cheap to build in comparison to subways and the like (5 to 10 million per lane mile compared to 50 million per line per mile both ways of subway).
I think the one of the issues is that you still need efficient road system in a city to transport goods.
"Angel is a really rough sounding place"
Bro, I’m going to battle blast laser tag on Friday
Andrew is over here promoting weight loss through cutting off limbs which seems pretty legit, while all these other TH-camrs are in hot water for promoting Established Titles.
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Do Americans just never drink alcohol, or are they constantly drunk driving? (Genuine question - having seen American versions of drinking I imagine it’s the former).
Cars are much worse for the environment. And building more lanes fixes nothing because of Induced Demand.
winco foods is seriously my fav grocery store ever tho