7 Issues that Ruin the 2024 Crosstrek Wilderness and other Subarus.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 มิ.ย. 2024
- What’s up guys?! Here’s my 7 dislikes review about the 2024 Subaru Crosstrek Wilderness.
What are your thoughts and the things you like or dislike the most? Comment below. 🙂
Vehicle link below…
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00:00 Intro
01:07 1. CVT replacement cost
02:44 2. Auto Start/Stop is not well designed
04:33 3. Lane keep assist can be dangerous
05:15 4. Poor MPG for a small crossover
06:58 5. Infotainment system should be better
08:37 6. Wilderness short comings
09:59 7. Lack of customization
11:07 Final Thoughts
Initially, the auto start/stop was disengaged when you were testing it. Indicated by the orange "A" on the dash display.
I turn my Forester's system off every time I drive.
Came here to say the same thing. Weird because it works the exact same way in the OBW which he has. It was clearly not on so of course it wouldn't work.
Good catch guys! I obviously didn’t proof view the clip I edited in 🙈 I had done several of those type of attempts and they all felt the same and none really showed the system working very well so I just picked a random one to add into the video. I must have picked the worst one if the system was turned off that time lol.. 😂🤷♂️
@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 It's all good! The system does fail to turn off when it should, so I have experienced it as well. 👍🏼
I turn mine off also, it’s not a smooth restart when it turns back on and I have to believe it leads to early starter wear.
The lack of manual transmission ruined it for us
I wish they'd just get rid of those stupid infotainment touch screen systems in every vehicle....stupid idea and very distracting, nevermind people playing on their phones, now they just put a tablet in your car to distract you instead.
yup i prefer previous gen infotainment system
I agree I like being able to adjust knobs without having to look once I learned where they were.
another boomer that doesn't understand technology well
@@strongersmarterandbetter Dude I was a tech admin...I understand it way too much, and it don't belong in a lot of places in vehicles and the tablet in the dash is one of them.
@@wildbill23c The tablets are the best thing about modern cars and its a lot more useful as a passenger
That weather stripping reduces heat reduction. Let the engineers do the thinking bud
That’s a fair point!
Reduces heat reduction? Try not to use a double negative using the same word. The weather stripping increases heat build up is what I believe you were trying to say. And no, it doesn't have to. Plenty of other manufacturers have used weather stripping to keep the engine compartment cleaner while still providing an adequate cooling solution for the engine and components. He even listed one. Try taking your own advice.
Our 24 premium with 2400 miles only gets 19.8 mpg avg during my wife’s 4.3 mile morning and afternoon trips while watching the grandchildren and dropping one off at school. On a 155 mile trip I can get near 30 mpg. Her 315 hp 2012 chevy camaro did similar mpg with near double the hp.
I bet that 3.6 liter Camaro is a lot of fun! 🤩
Subaru "ruined" the Crosstrek by not offering a turbocharged powerplant option, or at least a powerplant with over 200hp, keeping "some" buttons on the infotainment system, a manual transmission option and lastly, ditch that gaudy, " gold-tooth prison mug" accent trim. A titanium, gunmetal, or carbon fiber look would be better, hell even continuing the chosen body color to carry over into these accent arras is better. I love Subaru and the Crosstrek but Subaru needs to breathe a more sporty life into it.
I own a CTW and I agree with all your points. My biggest gripe is the gas mileage.
I now avoid the interstate on my commute and take the frontage road instead. It takes a few extra minutes but I now average 27mpg instead of 22mpg.
That being said tho there are no other cars on the market that I can afford that meet my wants and needs like the CTW does.
I still love the car and truthfully if I had to choose between the more aggressive power delivery that the final drive provides or the better mpg of the regular CT’s 2.5 I would still pick the wilderness! I’ve driven both and the regular CT feels lethargic in comparison.
That’s awesome! I don’t blame you for taking the highway. It’s so crazy how drastically different these do with MPG at highway vs. interstate speeds. I’m currently filming an MPG video in my OWB from 60mph-80mph and the results so far are shocking lol.
The archaic “new” screen is keeping us away. We own other Subarus and prefer the old 8” screen and HVAC knobs. The lack of a front cam is disappointing too.
I totally get that! Right now the 2024 Forester and BRZ are the only models left like that. It’s a shame. 😢
I currently own a 2001 Impreza with 206k miles on it. I'm looking to get a new vehicle and am looking at the Crosstrek Wilderness. What are other goid vehicles with the same capability in that price range?
I am also concerned about the cvt. How do you feel about the Mazda?
I haven’t driven all the competition, but I know there’s not of other “off road” CUVs. I love Mazdas! I have a 23 Miata. But I’ve driven a lot of CX-5, 30s, 50s, and 90s and think they’re a really good value.
I have 2 late model Subaru’s, a 2021 Outback and a 2024 Forrester, both premium packages. I love both of them for their safety features and general drivability. That being said, I agree with all of the points that you made.
I do warranty audits at all brands of dealerships, it’s my job. I was very surprised by the high cost of a Subaru CVT. That being said, I don’t see a lot of them compared to some other brands. Great video!
I appreciate you sharing your insight! Enjoy your Subarus. 🙂
👍🏻👍🏻 I think it's the price. That car is 40k OTD. It is a good car but it needs to be great for someone paying $600 a month for 5 years. We have also come to expect more from Subaru than comparable priced choices. They always tried harder and gave you a little more in the mechanical aspects. With other OEM's playing the same game now I can see being a little disappointed what 40.000 dollars got me after the honeymoon.
I totally get that and specifically chose to leave the pricing issue at rest for this video. I can’t remember if you saw my original 7 issues video with the this new Wilderness about a week after I first drove it for my review video. My initial impressions were not great, especially because of the price. I kind of rushed that original video near the end of the day and after filming other stuff that day so I wanted to redo it with a more thought out version, that also wouldn’t hurt as many feelings of those who are happy with their purchase. It was the first Subaru trim level I drove and did not see the value in. But they look overall cool and stand out and for that reason I think my opinion has softened a bit.
I have this vehicle and love it. But I have to agree with your dislikes. I have them too. The gas mileage is my biggest complaint though. It does drive amazingly and is a lot of fun. I will add one more complaint. No heated steering wheel and they offer it in Canada.
I’m glad you’re enjoying it! I wouldn’t be surprised if that option comes to the U.S. down the road. The OBW first had a heated wheel in CA before it was offered here for 2024. 🙂
This video convinced me to just go ahead and buy a 2024 4-Runner TRD Premium.
Maybe some day I'll revisit Subaru if they get things sorted out.
I agree about the Lane Keep Assist or Lane Centering, it is very aggressive and sometimes annoying. I have crosstrek 2023
I remember when I bought my Outback I did think it felt like a more grown up or mature system than my 2019 Crosstrek had for eyesight. But that systems likely improving all the time because many of the new ones I test drive now feel better than my 2 year old Outback.
I think I saw where you can turn auto stop and start off in the infotainment system.
I have a ‘24 Limited. My gripes: 1) could use some more power, 2) heated steering wheel and heated side view mirrors, 3) front camera, and 4) power lift gate. Other than that, I am loving it as my daily driver.
Agreed on the infotainment....it needs some future refinement.
Gotta say that “ruin” is an awful strong word given that the items you list are annoyances or low probability failures. Also, isn’t this a rehash of a video you did on the outback not too long ago? The content seems awful familiar, just sayin.
Ruin probably is a pretty strong word, you’re right. It’s similar to that Outback video from about half a year ago, as you’d expect since these vehicles are very similar. But a few of the issues are different and the emphasis I’m trying to place this time around and on this model is slightly different. Such as I’m no longer in the mindset that “CVT” is bad, but rather the CVT in my experience is actually pretty good at doing what it was designed to do, but it should not cost 10k to replace. Which 10k average isn’t what Google said but that’s what people in forums have been quoted by their dealer. And knowing that, I personally don’t plan to keep my OBW past its warranty before I move on to the next experience.
Basically a lot of these concerns keep cycling around in comments and forums so I wanted to redo my original rushed Crosstrek Wilderness issues video and provide better Subaru distinctions that cause some potential buyers to pass them up. Every car and platform has its subtle pros and cons. Thanks for watching!
Agreed, although I semi agree with the CVT comment, I think people need to stop complaining about Subaru’s CVT. It’s probably one of the best in the market. Regardless of what people say of Subaru’s CVT, it doesn’t seems likely that Subaru’s going back to a regular automatic. They’ve been cemented and Subaru has been full steam ahead with the CVT development since the 2010’s.
@@AutomotiveAnonymous208i’m glad you made this video. i would have never watched your outback one, bc i dont want an outback. theyre too big for me & my 8 pound dog
Thanks for the review.
I sold my Forester Touring and our Ranger.
We bought a slightly used 23 Tacoma TRD Off Road long bed . It has factory leather and sunroof. I had only 6K miles.
This hopefully will be the last vehicle I’ll ever have to buy.
I’m sure it could be! That 09 with 220k miles I recently drove felt absolutely solid!
I test drove the ctw and outback wilderness. I liked the Crosstrek wilderness much better. Bought one a few months ago and love it. No complaints and has milage has been better than my 2019 Forester I just gave my son.
That’s awesome, I’m glad you’re enjoying it so much!
No front camera and a temporary spare I don’t understand why those were left out
Yeah, I was prettying disappointed when I first found that out. 😒
Not having a manual transmission option for the Wilderness Crosstrek is a huge disappointment. I have a 2021 MT Crosstrek and love it. Was hoping the Wilderness would have had one too. Too bad. I'll never drive a CVT.
I hear you. I actually just drove a 2014 STI Wagon (6 speed) in WR Blue, which that STI was the last year of it technically being an Impreza, similar to how the Crosstrek is a lifted Impreza. I wish they would bring that back and lift it to be the Crosstrek Wilderness lol. 😍
I think what you call the cd tray will now be for french fries, key fob, wallet, sunglasses, phone, or whatever, it still can have a use. For you it could have been for your go-pro.
For sure! I’d rather have more storage than less, but it obviously wasn’t intentionally redesigned on this newer generation lol.
5:07 wow! What’s that place?
I’m assuming you’re referring to the canyon I was driving in! Just a local feature or attraction to this part of Idaho. 😊
Honestly, I love this car. Hyundai and Mazda might have the edge on the road, but are not as good off road for sure ;-) The thing I'd pick on for the Crosstrek is the spare tire: It's a $36,000 + car, make some space and put a real tire in there, Subaru! Otherwise, my Crosstrek Sport is a fantastic little car. Strongly recommended.
Absolutely! And even just driving it down some washed out dirt roads was super fun, lol.
Just a tip on the Auto Start/Stop…. I have a 22 CT Limited and my salesperson actually told me this trick. It’s a pressure based system. So the harder the brake pedal is pushed the more likely it is to engage the system. So when at a stop all it takes is releasing a tiny amount of pressure on the pedal and it will not engage. At first it takes actual thought to remember to do this but I’ve had mine for 2 years now and I guess I have developed muscle memory for it and do it automatically now mine very rarely engages. And when it does I basically just have to adjust my foot on the pedal and the engine restarts. Just another option if someone doesn’t want the hassle of booping the kill button every time they get in the car. Another thing I learned is it’s not actually a US government regulation. It’s a regulation for other countries. So any vehicle platform sold in multiple countries will have the feature that way it saves the manufacturer spending money to set that feature based on which market it’s going to. Not all US sold vehicles have the auto start/stop.
Great insight and I appreciate you sharing! I hadn’t heard about the auto start/stop being sold in multiple markets influence. Something interesting and silly is with my OBW if I lightly hold the brake pedal it vibrates as it wants to move/lurch forward and rotate the wheels. I’m not sure if that’s the torque at idle and more aggressive final drive, but I’ve never had another car that does that.
@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 it could be the 4.11 final, I don’t get the shuttering in my limited at light brake pressure. So I wonder if it would act the same on the CTW since I believe it has the same final drive as the OBW. Love your videos and always look forward to them.
The Outback actually has a 4.44 final drive. You’re probably right about that being the reason. It’s almost like a very mild version of when I brake rev a powerful automatic car to launch, and the tires/front brakes don’t hold and it abruptly tries to move the car forward. Like an AWD hellcat or 6.2 Chevy on stock tires. Just the tiny baby version of that lol.
Thanks, I really appreciate it! I have a lot of fun making them. 🙂
Really?? Which US manufacture does not include the auto Start/Stop in their line up?? Please, let me know because as far as I know all 2023-2024 models have this dumb things that don’t save you any money…because it wears out things faster, which causes you to pay for repairs or even buying another car. This whole start/stop tech is nothing but a scam
It's important to mention that Subaru's CVT is in-house. Not the absolute garbage Jatco CVT used by Nissan and a surprising number of other brands. Still, it's a CVT. Best to get the CVT flushed every 30K miles so the CVT won't malfunction. Cheaper than buying a new CVT. Should help the vehicle last at least 100K miles. Though personally speaking, I'm glad there are still some options out there that use a traditional automatic trans.
As a Juke owner, this recommended exchange interval is a minimum, with turbo models recommended as often as 15k. And its best not to do a full flush, just drain and refill as many CVTs don't like going from old fluid to 100% new fluid. Yes this is experience with Nissan, but zero problems with a problem prone CVT and over 140000 miles using this method.
I have a Nissan Roque 2013 with CVT and it has never once turn of on me going into off-roading. Also, i have 140 thousand miles. Never had problems
@@foodlover2830
I don't believe you. THAT many miles with the absolute garbage Jatco CVT transmission in your vehicle, and you've had 0 issues. Literally impossible. If you urinated down my back, then told me it was raining; I'd be more inclined to believe you then.
Have to agree about wanting a manual tx option with Subarus. But the sales numbers didn’t lie. There simply weren’t enough people buying manual tx cars. As a group, we only have ourselves to blame.
Very true. 😞
I would add, pairing manual transmission options with their 'weakest' engine also has something to do with being less appealing and contributed to low sales.
Yeah, that’s a great point lol. 😂
I mean... general public in America is pretty fng dumb though. There should still be a custom option for those that know what's good for them. But I digress.
I love the looks of these little buggers... but there are some points I can't get past. (CVT is 1 even though I know they're good. I know they have THE best awd system bar none but to me they lack the "quality" feel that you get with something like a CX-50. They are underpowered too.. no matter how much you argue that they're not.
I have a CTW love it. Hate auto start stop on any vehicle. Bad system that isn’t worth it in my opinion. But in your review be fair you test it 2-3 times and say yeah it’s not working. I can see on the screen the auto start stop button wasn’t turned on!!! Then when it’s turned on yes it operated as expected. Anyway first thing I do after starting vehicle is shut that off! Thx
I’m glad you’re enjoying it, and thanks for sharing your experiences with it! I had actually spent about 4-5 minutes recording footage of attempting to get it to work properly and with different HVAC and electronic use settings on/off. But when I finally edited and went through some of that previously filmed footage in as an example I just through in a few random bits of the total, as it all felt like the same results. Maybe the battery was a bit low from all the idle time I’m sure it had before I borrowed the car, but it did not work consistently. Which I also don’t think my OBW does either. 🤷♂️🙂
I just recently got a 2024 Forester Wilderness coming from a Manual 2021 Impreza Sport that got totaled I really dislike the Start/Stop feature and wish I could permanently turn it off... Also dislike the lane keep assist which I have turned off as well. To be fair, I have a co-worker with a 2021 or so Toyota 4Runner with lane keep assist which he also doesn't like and keeps turned off.
I don’t care about the gas mileage. I can careless! What I care about is reliability beyond 20years/200K miles. Paying 10K for a new cvt under 100K is not what I would call a reliability!! It’s funny…everybody is throwing the “magic” 100K miles around as if it was some kind of great accomplishment that engine made to 100K. How about making it 200K miles!!! What somebody wants to keep and use the same vehicle 20 years or longer???
The standards of cars longevity are being lowered and its presented to us as a normal thing. And the 2024 CT wilderness is not different.
How about Subaru fixing the microphone mute issue that is model wide?
I absolutely love my 2023 Forester Wilderness. I don't know why there is so much hate for CVT. So far, my vehicle feels very peepy and smooth. I have plenty of passing power. Gas mileage isn't the greatest. I was averaging 28-32 mpg on my 2010 Ford and this vehicle is averaging 22 mpg. The weather is all over the place where I live and roads and traffic have a lot of variables as well. I drive in sport mode and I have a lead foot, so it can't all be design.
I hope Subaru continues to evolve because this is my first one and I really love the brand.
I’m glad you’re enjoying it so much! I’m just concerned with the transmission replacement cost as mentioned. But in actual use like you say it’s very smooth and it does a great job! I often get decently better MPG than rated in my OBW.
LED headlights are unusable in heavy wet snow conditions. The headlights and fog lights are not hot enough to repel/melt snow which leads to snow caking up. I suggest spraying the lights with a spray wax or deicer.
That’s good insight and a great suggestion! Thanks for watching. 🙂
I’ve got a 2015 Outback with 210,000 miles on the original cvt. All I’ve done is keep up with the scheduled maintenance, and it has been very reliable. It definitely won’t win any drag races, but the Outback has taken my family and I everywhere we’ve wanted to go with no troubles. I plan on replacing it with another Outback or the wilderness Crosstrek.
Thank you so much for sharing this! It’s great to hear such a good experience. I haven’t made this public yet but I drove a 1/4 million mile 2010 Outback (unsure of original CVT or not) but it was really clean and held up well!
I would buy one with the Outback turbo engine and an MT or regular AT.
That would be cool! I hope at some point they offer that configuration.
Well you won't find one with a MT...those days are long gone in family cruisers...even in HD trucks the MT isn't even an option anymore, where an MT should really be.
I hope so too, but they even took out the turbo from Forester...negative optimization@@AutomotiveAnonymous208
I am considering an Impreza base or RS, or a base Crosstrek. (I would get the base Crosstrek over the Impreza Sport, same msrp). My only concern is the mpg, though I will say I've watched several channels that do a 100 mile @70 mph road trip and the 2.0L seems to hit its 34 highway rating. The 2.5L, not so much :(
The lack of a manual transmission did it for us
I don’t blame you. The only reason my first Subaru was a CVT over manual was back in 2019 the manuals didn’t have eyesight, now the WRX does have both. I wonder how many more manual 2nd gen’s they would have sold if they figured out the software earlier.
@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 What is eyesight? My husband and I just love driving stick. His commute at a new job then would take him few hundred miles of northern Ontario and Superior shores so we wanted something with more traction. We wanted a Crosstrek, had one manual temporarily and loved it but we couldn't get one so we ended up with a Tacoma.
Eyesight is the name of the 2-3 camera system Subarus have at the top of their windshield for all the adaptive cruise and lane keep assist type features. I totally get that. I actually had a manual 2017 Tacoma for 2 years and over 60k miles before I switched to Subaru starting with that 19 Crosstrek.
@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 financially the (base) Crosstrek would have been better for us. It was a basic 2019 I temporarily had and it was great. The other models have too much useless tech that can throw a big wrench if something goes awry. While our Taco is great we still get annoyed with some of the tech. We are not ludites but just like simpler stuff.
100% agree. I was all excited when they revealed the Wilderness edition Crosstrek then completely disappointed when Subaru went and ditched MT on just about all their vehicles. I have a 2021 MT Crosstrek and love it. I have basically turned it into a Wilderness with more aggressive tires, lift and suspension upgrades, etc. I'll never drive a CVT! I don't need new tech like Eyesight...I just want a MT lol
It's frustrating that people have been complaining about the "infotainment system" since it debuted in the 2020 Outback, and since then, Subaru has continued to release model after model using the same system. Gah! Also, 100% agree with the comment about the manual being the most fun Crosstrek you've driven. If they would provide a PROPER ENGINE WITH A MANUAL OPTION, it would probably bring the enthusiast crowd back. The CVT is shite. I don't care that it's "really good for a CVT"... still a CVT, still shite. But yeah, I'll be hanging on to my 6 speed 2015 Forester for as long as I can, as it seems like they'll not be making anything like it ever again. Kinda sad, actually.
I bet that’s a really fun Forester, is it an XT? I do videos like this on occasion to hopefully help anyone interested in watching but also to raise awareness if anyone higher up the chain in corporate has the opportunity to see what owners dislike about their cars.
@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 Sadly, no. The SJ Forester XT only came with the CVT, so I was forced to choose, and I chose the 6 speed. Interesting side note, I recently stopped by a local Subi dealership to pick up some parts, and there was a '24 Foz Wilderness in the showroom. I asked a group of sales guys if they would ever offer it in a manual, and they, predictably, said no, but they said that I'm not the first person to ask that, and they've been feeding that up their chain, but that no one really seems to care. =(
What do you recommend as an alternative?
That’s a tough question. I don’t mean to sound negative or anything but every vehicle has its set of pros and cons. And if I knew other platforms as well as the Subarus I’d find a similar but individualized list of its own. But after driving a few hundred different vehicles I overall have come to the conclusion of being somewhat informed about what you’re driving, but not so overly focused on the concerns that you don’t trust the vehicle. Some ignorance is bliss. And since no vehicle is perfect, drive what you enjoy and what makes you feel good or that your money equals the value that the vehicle gives you. 🙂
@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 Oh, agreed. I live in in the intermountain west, which is Subie central, and for a reason- they aren't perfect (and the lack of a manual is sad), but they fill a niche no other manufacturer does- reliable AWD (some roads here require it in winter, and yes they check), lower price point and better gas mileage than other off-road capable vehicles, decent safety features, and reasonable highway ride. It's just hard dropping 30k plus on anything less than perfection, with no full spare! Thanks for the insight. I can't find a reasonable Crosstrek competitor in North America for my needs, if for no other reason than the crappy clearance (looking at you, Hyundai and Mazda). Thanks for the reply.
Get the Forester Wilderness! It's got more room is just as capable offroad and actually comes with a front camera. Moreover, it doesn't have that God-awful cow's udder of an info-tainment system where everything must be tapped in. With a simple dial turn, I'm in x-mode. Really, test-drive the Forester Wilderness before you settle on the Crosstrek. Crosstrk
thanks for the advice. i had an 2003 forester & loved it, but i hardly used the backseats & cargo space, unless i was moving house or traveling to or from a DJ gig. i want a small car (i drive a prius now) and i don’t that foresters look like the average SUV now (i love the boxier 2tone styles). hopefully the issues you mention get sorted in a future crosstrek wilderness model
I was going to get a Crosstrek Wilderness but bailed for many of the reasons stated here. Gutless engine, no low-end torque, horrible infotainment screen, etc.
Don't know what Subaru is thinking these days.
What is a Tezla?
It’s a Tesla and a price of junk.
@@lennyupstateny1850 wth is a price of junk?
Thats how Elon pronounces it.
Subaru needs to add a LAUNCH GEAR like Toyota did.
Before one buys a Subaru check out the outstanding class action suites .. I didn't know bout this on my 2021 Crosstrek and I finally had to get rid of mine or loose my insurance. In 23000 miles I had 5 windshields .. and the 5th one already had a repair. The Eyesite system almost got me killed twice. I filed with Subaru about these incidents and never heard a word. I had completely gone thru my Crosstrek .. Bilstein suspension, lifted 2", BFG KO2's. So I did a lot of off roading with the Trek but all those minor things became 'big' things. Traded it on a 2022 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road and in the last 13K miles I haven't lost a single windshield. I was also dissapointed with the fact that you can't flat tow a CVT transmission .. at least not a Subaru.
never had any of the issue its mention here, have a Crosstreck for two years and it works perfect.
Picking up new 2024 Crosstrek Widerness tomorrow. A tree fell on my 2018 Rogue coming home from work Totaled 😢
I’m excited for you! Tomorrow’s gonna be an awesome day! 🙂
With so many gripes, maybe you should procure another vehicle that is more to your liking.
In my opinion every vehicle has its issues that are likely to be noticeable once owning it. So this video is just to be informative to anyone curious to my issues. But in general the Subarus are awesome vehicles and I’ve really enjoyed my Outback Wilderness. I value your opinion. But I will say even the most recent comment on this video today before your own was in regard to the infotainment screen being the reason that person wouldn’t buy one of these. Thanks for watching! 🙂
Love my CTW 11.6 “ infotainment screen ! Just came home from a 2000 mile road trip and loved using both Apple Maps and Google maps for voice activated navigation that had awesome resolution and could be used in satellite mode to see the surrounding landscape features as opposed to a cartoon screen. Seamless and easy to use. Also the screen orientation was perfect when using it for navigation. Also easy to black out if desired. Most people that I hear complaints from have not used and operated the system enough to understand all the cool features. Never would purchase a car manufacturers Navi. They are overpriced and become outdated fast. My Navi updates via a new phone/software update seamlessly.
The lane centering feature is not perfect but performed very well and much better than the older version in my past 2021 CW. The worst feeling is when passing other vehicles that were swaying towards my lane and I preferred to disengage my lane centering to move further away from them.
I did not want a turbocharged engine as it brings more maintenance and cost to maintain. The CTW is adequate especially with the 4:11 gear ratio.
I agree with poorer gas mileage as compared to my 2021 with the same engine. But as noted the gear ratio, added lift and tires contribute to this fact.
I still have mixed feelings about the gold/ bling and cladding. Have thoughts about blocking out the bling look.
Can’t understand why I didn’t get a front camera and agree the resolution and image size on the rear camera is poor.
Loved the wireless phone charging and wireless apple car play connection via Bluetooth. Also found it easy to toggle between both my phone and my wife’s phone.
Connectivity was fast and efficient upon starting the vehicle.
I love the comfort of the seats even after this super long trip.
Super glad I purchased a CTW even though it is not perfect. However what vehicle is ?
I agree with the turbo comment. Having experience with turbo motors and CVTs, they really aren't a good pairing. CVTs, no matter how good, don't play well with higher torque. The Nissan Juke Nismo RS is a great example. Sure it's a crappy CVT to start, but Nissan tuned the car to keep torque lower vs the manual models because they know the inherent limitations of CVTs. The more torque you throw at them, the faster they wear out and the shorter they tend to last. This is largely due to lack of educating customers on the ideal drain/fill intervals for peak operation. For triple the cost of a standard auto, this is no bueno.
When I get in my 2024 forester Wilderness.
Step 1. Put seat belt on
Step 2. Start car.
Step 3. Turn off auto start.
Exactly, lol.
i do exactly the same
Just purchased mine about 3 weeks ago. It's my 4th Subaru and I love it. I'm averaging 25 MPG (mostly city driving). I agree 100%, if they offered this with the turbo it would almost be perfect. It needs a full size spare, but I heard they went without it because they would have had to go with a smaller gas tank. As it is, the range is about 370 miles, which is not great for a vehicle this size with a 4 cylinder engine. The HK radio is more like a stock stereo and the head unit is terrible. Otherwise, it's a great vehicle.
Congrats on just getting yours, I’m glad you’re enjoying it!
How many I hate crosstrek Wilderness videos do you make? Do you have anything good to say about this car or is it the bane of your existence? Personally, I love it!
Lol, this was actually the second and probably last one. I wasn’t very impressed with the first one I made. It was at the end of a long day, the weather was extra windy so I was talking a bit loud, and it wasn’t as thought out or presented as well as I would have liked. If you watch my other videos I hope it’s evident that I love Subarus in general. But for some reason the Crosstrek Wilderness rubs me the wrong way, lol. It’s still a great option and I don’t mean to speak poorly about your ride!
Subaru Crosstrek Sport or Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid?
I’ve not driven the CC Hybrid yet, but I would assume the Crosstrek is definitely more off road capable. But toyota Hybrids in general are awesome for efficiency and reliability, and are tuned really well. But it likely doesn’t have a very competent AWD system like other hybrid Toyotas, so be aware of that if it matters to you or if you are depending on that. 🤷♂️🙂
@@AutomotiveAnonymous208Even though this car is the best for off road I think it’s excellent on road and very quiet.
Yeah, they are! And the Geolanders are really good IMO for a factory tire. At 36k miles on my heavier OBW they still have 7-8/32” dread depth.
The auto stop start can be turned off.
Absolutely! A lot of us owners have that as muscle memory to turn off immediately after starting the car. You can also purchase OBD2 plug in anti auto S/S devices, but those can be sketchy and in some cases cause problems.
Yes, but you have to remember to turn it off every time you start the car.
Looks like the car won't remeber your last setting though...
Correct! It’s turned on every time you start the car.
@@matrixlee6392it’s not designed to remember the last setting.
MPG sucks, will wait for the Hybride model
For sure, more torque is needed to run bigger/heavier tires without big mpg sacrifices. Hence why lifted/tuned 1,000tq diesels can run 35’s+ and get 20+mpg, the torque hit to rotate the wheels is so much less noticeable. I bet your idea of a hybrid system would really help it out.
😂 just wait when your hybrid tech starts acting up….you will spend all that gas savings (..and some!!!) on fixing that hybrid mess because its a very complex system that when goes bad, not even god himself can’t fix it. …and be ready to fork out 8K for a new battery…they degrade over time and must be replaced in order to drive….to get your cappuccino 😁👍
if the crosstrek had a turbo engine i wud have bought this instead of the outback wilderness.
Absolutely, that would be nice! 😎
Technically you pay 💰 over $ 10 thousand more for only 33 horsepower and annoying ℹ️ infosystem and assembly in USA 🇺🇸/ compared with the base model assembly in Japan 🇯🇵
I prefer to suck a less horsepower car 🚗 knowing will last more than the wilderness made in 🇺🇸
The sad comedy is auto stop-start cycling on and off every 30 seconds ends up consuming more fuel than plain-old idling. Government-mandated "progress". Wheeee!
I just wish instead of implementing a feature that could potentially decrease engine reliability and in general is just a nuisance, they should have better engineered the vehicle elsewhere to create the increased efficiency they’re looking for.
I have found that the value it is showing for mpg Is more accurate than my 2018 premium (always showed 2 mpg more than my findings at fill up) where it is about .5 mpg more in my 2024 Sport, so that could explain the discrepancies, if the people complaining are going just by what the screen is telling them.
Ya it needs a full size spare.
You already knew about the shortcomings of this vehicle….So why did you buy it if you knew it??????
I don’t own a Crosstrek anymore, but an Outback. This video is just meant to be informative for anyone curious about common dislikes with the vehicle and platform it’s on. That’s all. 🙂
Auto START/STOP needs to be OUTLAWED!!! PERIOD.. It's just STUPID.. just excessive wear and tear and once it gets some miles on it-- it will end up USING more gas to restart than if it had kept running the 30 seconds it needs to stop.
i absolutely agree i hate it
@@Soul2burn The Govt. ordered those to "save fueL"-- and never bothered to test- but it's proven NOT to save fuel at all- and it wears the engine out faster.. and eventually will FAIL- right in the middle of traffic.!!
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Click and bait? Used to enjoy the content..
I’m sorry you feel that way and I appreciate you giving it a chance. If these weren’t the dislikes about a car that a lot of people share I wouldn’t put the effort into the video. I’m hoping it will be helpful for some potential buyers and also maybe reach people in corporate who make decisions about “customer preferences” to help the cars features improve with future iterations. I don’t think at any point I blatantly dissed the Crosstrek if that was your concern? But I as a car buyer do appreciate knowing the potential irritations or problems to be aware of that could arise down the road if I chose to buy that specific vehicle.
I just got one in white color also and I have nothing bad to say about it. I did 4k kilometers in a week and it feels like a cross Atlantic first class ticket. This car is a beast!! Highly recommend it for anyone looking for a legit offroad comfortable ride
That’s awesome!! 🤩
You convinced me to look elsewhere.
I’m just trying to share awareness of the common dissatisfactions some owners have. I’m sure if I was as familiar with any other platform I could make a similar list lol. Subarus are great cars overall and there’s a reason why they have such a cult like following.
Then you're missing out on a great, unique vehicle. There's nothing comparable to a Crosstrek Wilderness in the marketplace, either by appearance or capability. I picked mine up from order two weeks ago and absolutely love it in every way. It drives like a luxury car, can go almost anywhere and receives constant compliments from people driving Mercedes, BMW's Range Rovers, etc.
@@Scotto97 agreed. I live in the mountains and there is a reason everyone has a Crosstrek here. There's really nothing else similar, although I'm open to @automotiveanonymous208 and his suggestions.
Unless these are true deal breakers for you, you're really missing out, my friend. Cheers.
So, these are issues that ''ruin'' the crosstrek? I don't think so.
Sorry to say, but most of what you are saying here is either minor, or is nitpicking without understanding why things work the way they do. I have had Subaru's for a number of years and haven't had any out of the ordinary issues with them.
Yup, I know I’m definitely nit picking, lol. As an owner of a modern Subaru these are the little issues that I’ve had. But also they’re enough of a reason for some people to purchase another brand altogether as is evident in the comment section of a number of my Subaru videos. No car is perfect, but Subaru could definitely improve on a few of these issues if they wanted to.
Get out of your car and enjoy nature with a bike and burn some fat instead of sitting in a car and complaining about all the luxury ☀️
Lol, that’s a great idea! 💡
Aside from the details on the infotainment screen, wish they had left more manual buttons, I have to say you are being pretty damn picky and petty. You have to make trade offs for what you get in the Wilderness. You arent gonna get stellar mileage with the modified lowend gear ratios. Thats the trade off for capability. For what it is, you get decent enough mileage. To be honest, I'd tell you to stick with the more urban targeted models based on your comments. Not trying to be rude, but you dont come across as the target audince for the wilderness version anyway. Stick with your foofed up Limited.
Lol, I hear you. Half of my mentioned points are true of most Subarus since they’re all very similar, with the other few points being specific to this Wilderness. But you’re right, every vehicle has its pros and cons and list and it wouldn’t be difficult to nit pick any vehicle. This video is just to share the main dislikes that owners share in case it’s helpful to someone inquiring about the Subies cons. And I drive an Outback Wilderness, the Limited is to foofed up for me, lol.
Thanks for watching! 🙂
Oh well🙄🙄 for the price you pay, what else do you expect? If you want features, go Kia/Hyundai🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ still, Subaru 100%👌🏻👌🏻
Absolutely! 👍
If u complain too much about Subaru motors. Why don’t just go buy another one . Omg . Nagging like an old lady
Nagging like an old lady is what I do best! 😉
@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 touché
Bullshit. Its a great car.