The problem even those who want to save ANC they don't have plans to save it they want to access power only because of the benefits that goes with those positions
President Kgalema knows renewal starts with honesty. He needs to say buying of the Nasrec conference was morally wrong and was not in the spirit of the ANC conference. So these issues must be tackled with total honesty. People who should lead the renewal is not this current leadership. They are simply too compromised to lead such an important task.
You nailed it Zandi These veterans are very diplomatic when it comes to issues involving current leadership, the organisation is in this situation because of individual bought conference, Renewal is very important NEC must perform its duties without fear or favour.
@@zandisilemaqhayiya5478 I simple don't understand the renewal of the ANC if it not going to afect Ramaphosa because he was found with dollars in his farm and SARS don't have any racord abt it so just because he is leading the ruling faction nothing happens to him
Indigenous African politics is the solution in this country, factions will always being the corner stone of all evil in the organization as long as the European politics prevails in Africa. There's nothing to renew except going back to the root of revolutionary African concept.
Renewal of anc is a waste of time because vele inamehlo iyakhetha ukuthi sondelane kangakanani nobuholi obuphezulu if nt you re nt connected they destroy you right away
These factions are no longer based on political ideology, ...they are based on funds ...Funders have created their own factions within the party....this started in 1994..
U can not do away with faction then you don't want Zuma; the person who spent 60 years within the organization; spent years in exile; arrested sent to Robben Ireland; Sentenced 10 years in prison; then u introduce this renewal thing; Y can't sit down with Zuma; sort out your differences and build ANC : ?
Exactly he benefited through his wife Bee mining share in Hamony Gold and others also he's a product of factions himself young comrades are looking at them
If a strategy focuses on whats best for 'we the ppl' - factions will divide in those who can + those who cant deliver. The latter will simply perish. But with comrades fighting precisely that tooth + nail, there is no commitment, can never be any accountability or reforms, forget abt transparency. The stay away vote should have, but did not tell comrades with an insatiable greed for power. money, cheap media exposure, desperate to preserve their loot - they are a liability, overstaying their welcome. The Anc is reknowned for plans full of promises they have no intention to keep - look no further than BEE millionares strutting aound in guicci with no money or time invested in industries with jobs. Their message is clear - a democracy as stated by the constitution with a vibrant capitalist economy, a world class education system, industries or the rule of law was a detour enroute to a dictatorship + thats where the comrades are heading, ripping whats left of SA apart.
It is highly impossible to do away with factions,they are as ancient as Adam and Eve. You really cannot achieve absolute unity in the organisation. In families there are factions, in companies there are factions, in churches there are factions. Factions must be managed and not do away with. You deal with factions through processes
@@matsobanemosehla29 we can stop faction by electing all leaders from the floor and then start voting no one will have time to campaign and the vote must be secret,whoever disclose his or her vote will be disqualify
The problem with the SACP under the stewardship of Solly Mapaila is that they expect the ANC at government level to govern in a revolutionary style. No erstwhile revolutionary party in the world has ever been succesful in governance if it continues with the revolutionary style of the period prior to its taking over as a government . In the wake of its Renewal,the ANC must do away with undue tendencies such as deploying uncable cadres and the gatekeeping approach in the deployment of cadres. The ANC, throughout its history has attracted capable leaders in the likes of Pixley kaIsaka Seme, Sol Platjies,Nelson Mandela and Duma Nokwe to mention just a few. As of now, the ANC has capable leaders. The Renewal the ANC among others calls for according such capable leaders in the rank and files of the ANC. Viva ANC viva! Forward to the unstoppable Renewal of the ANC forward! Amandla!!
Gwede Mantashe , Fikile Mbalula and Cyril Ramaphosa should leave the ANC. Believe me new Fresh minded and optimistic leadership will emerge!! These 3 are holding ANC at Ransom.
Our ANC elders like to sugar coat ANC has been sold and you are not bold enough to tell the current president that ANC and DA do not have the same ideology but this whole marriage unfolded in front of you. Secondly your lectures do not put food on the table just talk
Now they started to realize that their finished what a disgrace and shame they did to black south africans who put them in power but many of my brothers and sisters are jobless voetseeeeek ANC and EFF
ANC do not have leaders only politicians 😅 Give them money and they are smiling 😅 no accountability but lawless😅
You are correct😂❤
The problem even those who want to save ANC they don't have plans to save it they want to access power only because of the benefits that goes with those positions
So true
President Kgalema knows renewal starts with honesty. He needs to say buying of the Nasrec conference was morally wrong and was not in the spirit of the ANC conference. So these issues must be tackled with total honesty. People who should lead the renewal is not this current leadership. They are simply too compromised to lead such an important task.
Polokwane conference was bought too
You nailed it Zandi These veterans are very diplomatic when it comes to issues involving current leadership, the organisation is in this situation because of individual bought conference, Renewal is very important NEC must perform its duties without fear or favour.
@@zandisilemaqhayiya5478 I simple don't understand the renewal of the ANC if it not going to afect Ramaphosa because he was found with dollars in his farm and SARS don't have any racord abt it so just because he is leading the ruling faction nothing happens to him
@@Richard_mthethwa unfortunately they all scare of Ramaphosa
@@zandisilemaqhayiya5478 and the other problem is they all want to tell us what is renewal as if we don't know
Indigenous African politics is the solution in this country, factions will always being the corner stone of all evil in the organization as long as the European politics prevails in Africa. There's nothing to renew except going back to the root of revolutionary African concept.
This one will and is nt solving any problem with this speech in fact he is the part of the problem
But he's different, Mkhukhu doesn't encourage factions
@SigileSagila no he's been part of the factions for so long udlala ngathi lo
He is the faction.@@SigileSagila
ANC is dead, Zuma killed it.
Ramadollar is burying it
I agree with you... he remembers what Des van Royen did, but did he reprimanded him at the time?
Renewal of anc is a waste of time because vele inamehlo iyakhetha ukuthi sondelane kangakanani nobuholi obuphezulu if nt you re nt connected they destroy you right away
Ubutho wethu madoda 😅
True this one is campaining
@@QiliLazikhothemhlanedied long ago 😂
😂😂😂👍
Yhooo 😮
These factions are no longer based on political ideology, ...they are based on funds ...Funders have created their own factions within the party....this started in 1994..
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣abadayisi besizwe sikhatele yibo abahambe 👎👎👎👎
Ziyakhala 😂
Young cadre are fully focused on their expensive phones
If they were true leaders then this wouldn't be a problem!!
U can not do away with faction then you don't want Zuma; the person who spent 60 years within the organization; spent years in exile; arrested sent to Robben Ireland;
Sentenced 10 years in prison; then u introduce this renewal thing;
Y can't sit down with Zuma; sort out your differences and build ANC : ?
Kgalema is part of a problem in the ANC most of old guard are the gate keepers of the wcm
Exactly he benefited through his wife Bee mining share in Hamony Gold and others also he's a product of factions himself young comrades are looking at them
I wonder where Kgalema has taken courage to speak out against FACTIONALISM.
There is nothing like renewal if there was then Phala Phala should have been delt with, he is talking nonsence.
But you were a member of a faction yourself. These old people must leave politics
This its true, it not only deviding the ANC but also the moral fibire of our society's
If a strategy focuses on whats best for 'we the ppl' - factions will divide in those who can + those who cant deliver. The latter will simply perish. But with comrades fighting precisely that tooth + nail, there is no commitment, can never be any accountability or reforms, forget abt transparency.
The stay away vote should have, but did not tell comrades with an insatiable greed for power. money, cheap media exposure, desperate to preserve their loot - they are a liability, overstaying their welcome.
The Anc is reknowned for plans full of promises they have no intention to keep - look no further than BEE millionares strutting aound in guicci with no money or time invested in industries with jobs.
Their message is clear - a democracy as stated by the constitution with a vibrant capitalist economy, a world class education system, industries or the rule of law was a detour enroute to a dictatorship + thats where the comrades are heading, ripping whats left of SA apart.
It is highly impossible to do away with factions,they are as ancient as Adam and Eve. You really cannot achieve absolute unity in the organisation. In families there are factions, in companies there are factions, in churches there are factions. Factions must be managed and not do away with. You deal with factions through processes
The problem with the ANC, is that the dominant faction within the ANC currently is outside of the ANC....
@@matsobanemosehla29 we can stop faction by electing all leaders from the floor and then start voting no one will have time to campaign and the vote must be secret,whoever disclose his or her vote will be disqualify
😂 the man is defeated.
GOODBYE ANC.
It is so painful, our ancestors' organization killed by greed and arrogance. 😭😭😭
ANC is useless and it's very disappointing.
No honor amongst THIEVES
Truth only
A party of factions, by factions and for factions😂😂😂
akusenalutho senikhaliswa indlala anisakwazi ukweba nidla nodwa nemndeni yenu futseg hambani asisafuni kuzwa lutho nje ngani
Forget 😢
The problem with the SACP under the stewardship of Solly Mapaila is that they expect the ANC at government level to govern in a revolutionary style. No erstwhile revolutionary party in the world has ever been succesful in governance if it continues with the revolutionary style of the period prior to its taking over as a government . In the wake of its Renewal,the ANC must do away with undue tendencies such as deploying uncable cadres and the gatekeeping approach in the deployment of cadres. The ANC, throughout its history has attracted capable leaders in the likes of Pixley kaIsaka Seme, Sol Platjies,Nelson Mandela and Duma Nokwe to mention just a few. As of now, the ANC has capable leaders. The Renewal the ANC among others calls for according such capable leaders in the rank and files of the ANC. Viva ANC viva! Forward to the unstoppable Renewal of the ANC forward! Amandla!!
Gwede Mantashe , Fikile Mbalula and Cyril Ramaphosa should leave the ANC. Believe me new Fresh minded and optimistic leadership will emerge!! These 3 are holding ANC at Ransom.
ANC is dead, Zuma killed it.
Ramadollar is preparing it's funeral.
Mashatile/Panyaza will bury it 2029
😂😂😂😂😂😂 ANC of sellout ANC of Hellen Zille
Matabata can save the ANC
You yourself are already practicing factions by mentioning Des
Buying voters?
Our ANC elders like to sugar coat ANC has been sold and you are not bold enough to tell the current president that ANC and DA do not have the same ideology but this whole marriage unfolded in front of you. Secondly your lectures do not put food on the table just talk
You are part of the problem you are a sellout
Cry for dead anc
CR17, phalaphala must be addressed
You buried the anc the day you went to bed with the racist da and ffp. You might as well get into alliance with those two, divorce Cosatu & Sacp.
This man today talking about factions while he himself stole Zweli Mkhize votes and gave to Ramaphosa
propagandist stratcom channel
Your ANC is beyond redemption because it is led by selfish leaders.🫢☹️☹️☹️🇿🇦🇿🇦✊
Now they started to realize that their finished what a disgrace and shame they did to black south africans who put them in power but many of my brothers and sisters are jobless voetseeeeek ANC and EFF