By ear I find the sound more similar than I would like to admit. But when the vibration and personality are considered, B was clearly the nicer violin. It gave me chills, whereas A simply sounded good. Great review, thanks!
I can't even notice that there's a difference with my earphones that cost less than $1usd. The problem with the cheap ones is that sometimes the bridge doesn't even come cut.
Once you get into the $1500. range, the Chinese violins sound very good. All these "comparison" videos use ultra cheap $50.00 violins compared to $10,000. European hand -made violins. The fact is, an excellent, commercially made violin can be bought for $1500.-$2000. Unless you are planning to play in Carnegie Hall, they'll suite your every need.
Lol, so I came here with an excuse. 'My $150 violin is why i sound bad... has to be... Then I watched this and was like, okay, it's me. I need to practice haha." FYI, just started like a month ago. haha
Cheaper is A. You are very good so the difference will be less apparent to the listener. I don't think it shows thru youtube very well anyway, especially my speakers. I have around $270 violin, but I tried an individually hand crafted violin they were selling for $9000 and even after just a few notes there was a easily noticeable difference without even trying, just so much better. But whether that would of been as big a difference to the listener, I'm not sure.
Zenik Torres Yes, it’s definitely harder to hear online. A more expensive violin and bow can make it easier just for yourself and give you more possibilities or makes things easier. For an audience it’s hard to differ skill and gear.
nice video, thanks for letting us listen. I'm 100% sure A is a cheap violin and B is the expensive one. I listened to it with a good monitoring system here, and the expensive one resonates nicely and this particular model have a warmer sound, while the cheap one has that kind of a plastic-like resonating character. I would definitely prefer to listen to the B recording as it's much more pleasant to the ear.
the 10k didnt hurt my ears on the initial pitches there were some resonances and frequencies i was hearign on the cheep one that jsut hurt. with that alone i think a was the cheep.
There's always these "cheap vs. expensive" testing. It would be a great help for beginners and intermediate students to test several violins in the $500, $1000, $2000 and $5000 range to show that also WITHIN on price range instruments can sound very different!
I'm amazed at how it was very easy to hear the difference with only certain of the notes. The cheaper ones have this missing quality to it. Almost like the note wants to stay steady but it kind of wavers off a fraction of a semitone.
Thank you for this video! I'm buying my 15 yo DD the Glarry right now and your video helped me decide. I didn't want to spend good money in case she doesn't like it but I was still worried that if it wasn't an expensive one it wouldn't sound any good at all and she'd quit immediately. Clearly the other is the best but as others have said, you made them both sound great in my brand new to this opinion!!
Violin A sounds brighter. Violin B sounds more mellow. If you were to look at the waveform of their sound, violin A would appear more like a saw tooth or square wave and violin B would appear more like a sine wave. So, violin A sounds cheap. In my junior high school days, I played on 13-year-old violin and a 6-year-old violin and I can hear the difference.
I have to admit the instrument in such a talented musician going to sound fantastic , of course the expensive sounds better but as already told you the musician gives live to instrument , thanks for sharing
Nicely played Bach and the music seemed to flow beautifully. The notes were more defined and articulation better on the antique violin. From what I can hear, projection seemed better as well. The 1st note on violin A was a bit wobbly, whereas on B it sounded fine. For the price, Glarry is quite good though.
A is definitely the cheap violin. But I didn't like the sound of violin b, too. Especially if you have a look at the price. I've heard instruments for 2000 which have a fuller and more intensive sound.
@@violinlounge Hi, zlata. Always nice to watch your videos . I ended up buying a Chinese violin from a local seller here in Miami. His name is Emmanuel Berberian and has a business called Allegro music center. He sells several types of violins inspected and setup by by them. It cost me $295. It's a beginner's violin and probably not the best one. This is my first violin ever and I never played another one to compare but for the price I think it does the job.
Compared to the horrible violins you normally get when you buy cheap violins, the Glarry violin actually sounds amazing for the cost. Would be an excellent violin for starters.
I am a Julliard music major, Theory and Composition and Classical Guitar. I have several guitars, both acoustic and electric that cost thousands of dollars. Like wise I have a couple cheap ones $150 range. But 2 of the biggest things I look for in a guitar is neck construction and the type of wood that is used. I favor mahogany in electric and Koa or maple in acoustics, In electric guitars, I have certain pickups that I use so I do have control over that as I will more than likely change the pickups. I have always told people, especially my students that it is not the guitar but the person playing it. I have my students focus on precision and discipline. I am just starting to learn to play the violin. In your video, I am really having a hard time telling which is the expensive and the inexpensive one which is a great testament to your talent.
Wow, did I just wake up and see a Julliard major say I have talent? You made my day! And you're absolutely right. Once I had a beginning student who spent hundreds of euro's on fancy wound gut strings to replace her already very decent strings and then said she didn't have money for lessons.
God I hope there's a difference, with that kind of price difference. I don't understand why there are so many of these $100 violin vs $10K, 100K, $10M violin. It's rediculous. Why can't someone do a comparison between a $50 or $100 violin vs a $200, $300, or $500 violin? My feeling is that most shoppers of a beginner violin might make a jump from $100 to a few hundred. No way are they going to be looking at $1000+. Who in their right mind is going to shop for a $100 to if they're good and wealth enough to even be looking at $1K + violins?
I've got reviews on my channel of violins below $ 100, around $ 200 and around $ 500 showing and demonstrating exactly the difference and what to look out for. Here are some: violinlounge.com/article/5-best-violin-brands-for-beginner-violinists/ Also there are many other channels who have done reviews of the price ranges you mention :).
Apart from the difference in the quality of sound produced by either the violin or the bow , are there any advantages of expensive violin over cheap violin in terms of its ease of playing different techniques, or any person can do exactly the same with a cheap violin before getting a very expensive one , especially for students
Am I dumb or there's really huge difference. B sounds a bit more pleasant to my ears. 🤔 I think a comparison between a violin around 200 with one which worth 2000 would be more helpful
I already have several violin reviews on my channel for different price points, but will see if in the future it's possible to have lots of them together to compare.
A. I chose before reading the comments in case it was actually told. I was happy after choosing then reading to see I was right. It makes me happy that even as a beginner I was able to tell the difference!
I think A is the cheap one, but to be completely honest, that might only be because I heard it first and was listening for harshness in the sound, and I thought B sounded very slightly warmer. There does not sound to me like a 200x difference, to be sure! I do wish I could hear them together with more sound dampening in the room, because I wonder if the slight echo might have disguised the harshness of the cheap one. Very beautiful playing, Zlata, and thank you for showing us this very affordable option! I have my violin but if one of my kids wants to learn I'll know where to look first!
Great video. I think THE most incredible thing about this is, that a few dollars worth of fiddle can sound so good, as always the funk's in the fingers as bass players say😎
Violin A was the cheap one. But you can see that in the un-blinded comparison, you play the expensive violin differently than you do the cheap violin. The bow strokes are slightly longer, the vibrato is more pronounced, and you are slightly more animated. Presumably you did this in the blinded comparison as well. So, while the expensive violin sounds a little better, some of that may be due to the better play it got from you. It’s quite amazing, really, how the difference in sound between these two instruments is far more subtle than the difference in price. It takes an incredibly cheap violin to produce a sound that is noticeably inferior to that of an expensive violin. It seems to me that once you get above $3000 to $4000, the sound quality between violins of all prices is pretty much the same.
The violins both respond very differently, on the cheap one vibrato doesn’t come out that easily and the bowing doesn’t speak, so I couldn’t do the things exactly the same or the difference would be bigger. But yes: the difference is not 200 times better and in higher end violins the differences in quality are more subtle although they can be very different in character.
VIOLIN LOUNGE by Violinist Zlata Your statements that the vibrato “doesn’t come out” as easily and the bowing “doesn’t speak” are unclear. They can mean anything you want them to mean. Comparisons need to be a bit more concrete. Cheaper strings may not be as easily vibrated by the bow, much the same way synthetic bow hairs may not vibrate the strings as easily as horse hairs. Vibrato may be more difficult if the strings of the cheap violin are too high off the fingerboard, requiring more effort to rock your fingertip back and forth. I’m just offering some examples. These would be the kinds of clear, concrete, comparisons that everyone can see and demonstrate for themselves.
I think B is the expensive one, it seems to resonate more but Zlata made them both sound great. The beautiful melodies have her glowing too. Wish I could play an instrument.
Thanks, Marty, it shows that a decent violin can be affordable for everyone and investing in skill pays off more than investing in gear to a certain extend.
Both sound great as you play them 😺👍. Though I didn't like the scratchy sound at violin A. It was "scratchier" somehow at some parts. The notes (several notes in the beginning) were not similar with the violin B, I think it is better call it the color of the tone. At the first several notes they were a little bit "stingy", while violin B is more "warmer" and "calm" with "some degree of roundness sound". But the rest were just fine. Your playing techniques just blurred my perception then 😹😹👍👍🎻🎻. I think also Violin B has rich tone colours, it's like it has layer of many sounds, especially when you drop the note to the lower string after playing the higher tones at A/E string. I didn't get the same impression at Violin A. Matching the character from the first presentation, I think Violin A seems to be the cheap one. I think we need to "customize" the cheap violin to reduce the "stingy" and "scratchy" sound. 😺👍
@@violinlounge Ah, I see. The wood :) . Anyway, do you think it is influenced also to the string quality? Since I assume you played Violin A with the same string as you purchased it. And what is the song's names? I like the melody. :)
Fighter Cat it’s a combination of many factors amongst which the wood, craftsmanship, set up etc. The piece is the Meditation from Thais by Massenet. I’ve got a tutorial video on it right here: violinlounge.com/how-to-play-meditation-from-thais-by-massenet-on-the-violin/
I do not play violin. But I think most people choose Violin B because the performance in Violin A was a little bit out of tune compared to B. There is also a possibility that you played the Violin A with lesser bow control consistency than B, hence some people say that the Violin A is more scratchier, which I don't think has nothing to do with the quality of the wood. It's also possible that it has something to do with the rosin, or inferior strings but not the violin itself. But I am amazed with the sound quality of the Violin A. I will probably choose it over B if played equally well. I will say it's a tie for now. You proved that the skill of the player is more important than the quality of the material, as long as the instrument has a proper setup and is comfortable to use. I am amazed the way you made the cheap violin sound like a pro. Give me those skills! x)
The thing is, and you'll notice this as soon as you start playing, that on the Glarry it was WAY more difficult to play in tune... almost impossible. The bow that came with it, was wobbly, so almost impossible to control. I took a lot of effort to make it sound good and in tune, but of course this cheap instrument has limited possibilities.
@@violinlounge I see so that's why. It probably needs a serious setup from a luthier to match the playability of the expensive one. Thanks for the additional information about this. Cheers!
Yes, I used the cheap bow that came with the violin. I pushed the pegs inside with some force so they would stay there. Although they don’t fit according to the book, the tuning stability was quite all right.
I saw on another site they sell a tapered drill bit that you can use to HAND DRILL the hole using the drill bit. Made sense to me. Won't put the sites name here. Wouldn't be cool.
Mom brought me an $88 violin. About two weeks, I got tired of the tinny sound from the strings. So, I decided to put Perlon strings for a softer sound, but the Bridge snapped when half way tuned!. A Guitar shop used a standard Violin bridge which had to be shaped and sanded. Setting the sound post, new strings, and a bridge cost close to $100. A few months ago, I learned you can rent to own for $30 and up. I would have been happier with a $300 Violin. I was not aware of a Violin shop in the next town 16 miles away.
Hello, although it is cheap, but if you send it to me, I will be very happy because the violin that I had lost at an airport while I was on my way home in Iraq
Ik denk dat A de goedkope viool is. Hij klinkt alsof het meer moeite kost om er een mooi geluid uit te halen. Viool B heeft meer resonantie en ook meer, hoe zal ik het zeggen, een eigen geluid van zichzelf. Helemaal zeker ben ik niet omdat het best een kort stukje was.
@@violinlounge O ja, dat geloof ik direct! Dat kon je ook goed horen: de klank van A was steeds hetzelfde, a.h.w. stabieler, maar daarmee is er natuurlijk uiteindelijk minder expressie mogelijk. Pleit toch ook weer voor B.
Another youtuber violinist compared Glarry violin with $10 million Stradivarius. Must be my poor ear, but Stradivarius is not worth the money for me. I can easily be content playing $50 Glarry violin and at my skill level a Stradivarius will also sound like a cheap violin. LOL
I think the cheap was B. I'm an engineer and play a fretless Bass since 1970 professionally. So I may be thrown off by the background noise of B.. the "din" so to speak. too many overtones to fight with harmonics...you did not play the same notes in the original offering for review that you did in the piece in question. So the tones are not offered the same observance. I fought with this quite a bit...so considering the fact that today almost everything in a studio can be replicated or remedied... I must add for your consideration that the difference is quite small if all one is doing is playing ONE axe on a track. The real meat and potatoes is in LIVE PERFORMANCE with others playing in real time. If using in a track I would GATE the hollow din reverberant that remains when the instrument is not sounding. Ie...the background noise of the wood it was created from. BTW...no matter how it sounds... it is one hell of a deal compared to buying guitars! Your playing my dear has MUCH TO BE DESIRED!!!! I'm being honest. I would desire to hear you play ANY TIME OF DAY OR NIGHT...get used to the idea. My neighbor played in the San Diego Symphony and I also recorded several musicians in the Cleveland Orchestra .and YOU my dear....ROCK....killer pitch. Get used to the idea.
It’s who plays it makes it sound good.
Certainly, although the instrument helps a lot too!
VIOLIN LOUNGE by Violinist Zlata yes it does thank you for your videos.
More expensive violins have better resonance.
But honestly they both sounded amazing!! ❤️😃
Thank you, it shows that a decent violin doesn't have to be expensive!
@@violinlounge So true :)
By ear I find the sound more similar than I would like to admit. But when the vibration and personality are considered, B was clearly the nicer violin. It gave me chills, whereas A simply sounded good. Great review, thanks!
Well said! Thanks for watching!
I can't even notice that there's a difference with my earphones that cost less than $1usd. The problem with the cheap ones is that sometimes the bridge doesn't even come cut.
Yes, playability is also an important difference. I had to do a lot of effort to play on the Glarry violin, but it still is a good bang for the buck.
I have 2800 dollar headsets
Once you get into the $1500. range, the Chinese violins sound very good. All these "comparison" videos use ultra cheap $50.00 violins compared to $10,000. European hand -made violins. The fact is, an excellent, commercially made violin can be bought for $1500.-$2000. Unless you are planning to play in Carnegie Hall, they'll suite your every need.
That’s very true!
Yes, I can hear the difference. B has a more sound density.
vl_3 you got it! What kind of violin do you play yourself? 😊
Ooh, I am beginner - playing with Stagg Student violin.
I really really hear the difference.
Stick with the $10,000.00 one !!!
It sounds much better .
B IS THE EXPENSIVE ONE!
You got it! Just gave the other one to a beginner.
@@violinlounge I cringe listening to the first. It‘s like fingernails on a chalkboard. Who buys cheap, buys twice.
Lol, so I came here with an excuse. 'My $150 violin is why i sound bad... has to be... Then I watched this and was like, okay, it's me. I need to practice haha." FYI, just started like a month ago. haha
Yes and no, because it certainly is important to get a good instrument.
Cheaper is A. You are very good so the difference will be less apparent to the listener. I don't think it shows thru youtube very well anyway, especially my speakers.
I have around $270 violin, but I tried an individually hand crafted violin they were selling for $9000 and even after just a few notes there was a easily noticeable difference without even trying, just so much better. But whether that would of been as big a difference to the listener, I'm not sure.
Zenik Torres Yes, it’s definitely harder to hear online. A more expensive violin and bow can make it easier just for yourself and give you more possibilities or makes things easier. For an audience it’s hard to differ skill and gear.
A is cheaper, the sound in B is so sweet
You got it!
nice video, thanks for letting us listen. I'm 100% sure A is a cheap violin and B is the expensive one. I listened to it with a good monitoring system here, and the expensive one resonates nicely and this particular model have a warmer sound, while the cheap one has that kind of a plastic-like resonating character. I would definitely prefer to listen to the B recording as it's much more pleasant to the ear.
You got it! 👍🏻
the 10k didnt hurt my ears on the initial pitches there were some resonances and frequencies i was hearign on the cheep one that jsut hurt. with that alone i think a was the cheep.
you got it!
There's always these "cheap vs. expensive" testing. It would be a great help for beginners and intermediate students to test several violins in the $500, $1000, $2000 and $5000 range to show that also WITHIN on price range instruments can sound very different!
Great suggestion. I already did so for bows, but I'll what's possible with violins.
Yes please do it please! 🙏
A sounds like the less expensive one. I’m not sure how to describe the difference but A sounds like it is missing frequencies.
Yes, you are right, less overtones!
I'm amazed at how it was very easy to hear the difference with only certain of the notes. The cheaper ones have this missing quality to it. Almost like the note wants to stay steady but it kind of wavers off a fraction of a semitone.
Exactly!
B is the cheaper?
Susan Kimberley nope, A is the cheap violin, but you’re definitely not the only one.
Thank you for this video! I'm buying my 15 yo DD the Glarry right now and your video helped me decide. I didn't want to spend good money in case she doesn't like it but I was still worried that if it wasn't an expensive one it wouldn't sound any good at all and she'd quit immediately. Clearly the other is the best but as others have said, you made them both sound great in my brand new to this opinion!!
Great, Lisa, however I recommend upgrading quite soon as you notice she'll keep playing :).
Violin A sounds brighter. Violin B sounds more mellow. If you were to look at the waveform of their sound, violin A would appear more like a saw tooth or square wave and violin B would appear more like a sine wave. So, violin A sounds cheap. In my junior high school days, I played on 13-year-old violin and a 6-year-old violin and I can hear the difference.
RaymondHng you got it!
I have to admit the instrument in such a talented musician going to sound fantastic , of course the expensive sounds better but as already told you the musician gives live to instrument , thanks for sharing
You're welcome!
A is the cheap violin. It's your fine playing that makes the cheap one sound ok; that and your warm personality.
You’re so welcome, Erle 🥰
playing in E string and higher position with that cheap violin is such a pain :(
It is!
Yeah, I could feel just how cluncky that Bruch opening sounded.. despite the quality of the violinist!
I think the cheaper violin is A. To me, the expensive violin doesn’t sound 200x better...
Exactly right, Dawn, investing in skills pays off more than investing in gear to a certain extend.
Violin Lounge by Violinist Zlata I think it’s because you can make any violin sound wonderful!
Dawn Healey 😘
As long as you put in hard work, any violin will sound great! (Except for violins u buy on ebay thats costs $30
Barnabas certainly
Nicely played Bach and the music seemed to flow beautifully. The notes were more defined and articulation better on the antique violin. From what I can hear, projection seemed better as well. The 1st note on violin A was a bit wobbly, whereas on B it sounded fine. For the price, Glarry is quite good though.
Its the player not the violin... cheap violin still sound best in the hand of master....
I couldnt hear the different in two... it sound the same...
zombabeger thanks for the compliment 😊
@@violinlounge thanks for the ♥️... i really like violin, eventhough never play one😄
A is definitely the cheap violin. But I didn't like the sound of violin b, too. Especially if you have a look at the price. I've heard instruments for 2000 which have a fuller and more intensive sound.
Yes, we all have a different taste. What kind of violin do you have yourself? Just curious... :)
@@violinlounge I play the viola 😉 it's a "normal" handmade one from a violin luthier in Germany, big, with kind of "dark" sound, wich is very full.
I love it when a viola sounds a bit like a cello. The big ones sound best usually. I have a German violin too :).
Wedden that you are Nederlands?
Inderdaad!
what a good player! A sounds undefined between the notes and sketchy
Thank you!
I think B is the expensive one, but you make the cheap one sound so great anyway! :)
Thank you! In Holland we say 'a bad carpenter will always blame the hammer'.
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A is the cheap one - the high tones don't resonate as much as on the antique one.
You got it!
@@violinlounge
Definitely Violin A. Good video!
Thanks ☺️
I think the cheap violin was A
Passed! :) What kind of violin do you play yourself, Abelardo?
@@violinlounge Hi, zlata. Always nice to watch your videos . I ended up buying a Chinese violin from a local seller here in Miami. His name is Emmanuel Berberian and has a business called Allegro music center. He sells several types of violins inspected and setup by by them. It cost me $295. It's a beginner's violin and probably not the best one. This is my first violin ever and I never played another one to compare but for the price I think it does the job.
@@Lalo1 Yes, if it's a good beginner violin, that's a very decent price!
I also think That A is the sheap violin 😉💝💐
You got it, Marleen!
Marleen Jamers Cheap*
Obviously the B is the better. But it is not good enough for a violinist for it is not strong enough around open A string.
Compared to the horrible violins you normally get when you buy cheap violins, the Glarry violin actually sounds amazing for the cost. Would be an excellent violin for starters.
Yes, it's definitely a good choice in the price range, I go a bit deeper into that right here: th-cam.com/video/t115d05iUm4/w-d-xo.html
These comparison videos are always fund to watch. I wonder how a beginner sounds on both of them.
bang mon might invite someone in the future...
More expensive Im learning on a $30 dollar one I find I need to compensate too much for a better sound.
I'll tell you how a beginner sounds!!! he plays the shit out of either one. Every note sounds like shit!!!!
sounds the same to me. If anything, B sounds little better.
The tone quality of B gave it away for me, it is the antique violin.
You got it, Monique, what kind of violin do you play yourself?
I am a Julliard music major, Theory and Composition and Classical Guitar. I have several guitars, both acoustic and electric that cost thousands of dollars. Like wise I have a couple cheap ones $150 range. But 2 of the biggest things I look for in a guitar is neck construction and the type of wood that is used. I favor mahogany in electric and Koa or maple in acoustics, In electric guitars, I have certain pickups that I use so I do have control over that as I will more than likely change the pickups. I have always told people, especially my students that it is not the guitar but the person playing it. I have my students focus on precision and discipline. I am just starting to learn to play the violin. In your video, I am really having a hard time telling which is the expensive and the inexpensive one which is a great testament to your talent.
Wow, did I just wake up and see a Julliard major say I have talent? You made my day! And you're absolutely right. Once I had a beginning student who spent hundreds of euro's on fancy wound gut strings to replace her already very decent strings and then said she didn't have money for lessons.
God I hope there's a difference, with that kind of price difference. I don't understand why there are so many of these $100 violin vs $10K, 100K, $10M violin. It's rediculous.
Why can't someone do a comparison between a $50 or $100 violin vs a $200, $300, or $500 violin?
My feeling is that most shoppers of a beginner violin might make a jump from $100 to a few hundred. No way are they going to be looking at $1000+. Who in their right mind is going to shop for a $100 to if they're good and wealth enough to even be looking at $1K + violins?
I've got reviews on my channel of violins below $ 100, around $ 200 and around $ 500 showing and demonstrating exactly the difference and what to look out for. Here are some: violinlounge.com/article/5-best-violin-brands-for-beginner-violinists/
Also there are many other channels who have done reviews of the price ranges you mention :).
B definitely sounds better to me, whether it's the cheaper one or not.
Apart from the difference in the quality of sound produced by either the violin or the bow , are there any advantages of expensive violin over cheap violin in terms of its ease of playing different techniques, or any person can do exactly the same with a cheap violin before getting a very expensive one , especially for students
Yes, there's definitely a difference in how it plays, how heavy it is for the hand and how secure intonation can be. Same goes for the bow.
Am I dumb or there's really huge difference. B sounds a bit more pleasant to my ears. 🤔 I think a comparison between a violin around 200 with one which worth 2000 would be more helpful
I already have several violin reviews on my channel for different price points, but will see if in the future it's possible to have lots of them together to compare.
A.
You got it! Tell me about your own violin... just curious!
B
Oops, nope, but it does indicate that they were quite close :).
B
Oops, the cheap one is A!
The $10,000 sounded far better... still didn’t help the wallpaper look any better though...
I'll try different wall paper next time :P
A. I chose before reading the comments in case it was actually told. I was happy after choosing then reading to see I was right. It makes me happy that even as a beginner I was able to tell the difference!
Congrats!
A -- its tinny. Also the good one B is cleaner in sound
I think A is the cheap one, but to be completely honest, that might only be because I heard it first and was listening for harshness in the sound, and I thought B sounded very slightly warmer. There does not sound to me like a 200x difference, to be sure! I do wish I could hear them together with more sound dampening in the room, because I wonder if the slight echo might have disguised the harshness of the cheap one. Very beautiful playing, Zlata, and thank you for showing us this very affordable option! I have my violin but if one of my kids wants to learn I'll know where to look first!
Great, Katie, I hope one of your kids will get started on this beautiful instrument. It will be a gift for life to teach them music :).
both almost the same, but if im not wrong. its actually got abit deference. B sound more rich and and nice than A, so B its the expensive violin.
Thanks for sharing!
Great video.
I think THE most incredible thing about this is, that a few dollars worth of fiddle can sound so good, as always the funk's in the fingers as bass players say😎
Haha, yes, exactly! Funk in the fingers... I'm going to remember that one! :)
A is the cheap violin, but honestly it's hard to tell. I personally second guessed myself on the blind test
Yes, weird, isn't it?
A
You got it, tell me more about your own violin!
A is cheap violin because it's sound quite hard and strong. B is expensive violin. the reason is that its sound is warmer.
EstherWong ThuyNguyen 👍🏻
Thanks Zlata. I was planning on buying a violin for myself for the first time. This is going to help me not to spend a lot on my first violin :)
Happy to help!
I think A is the cheap one! Although you make it sound pretty darn good, there is still a harshness that comes through.
You got it, Elizabeth, had to put a lot of effort it to make it sound decent.
Violin A was the cheap one.
But you can see that in the un-blinded comparison, you play the expensive violin differently than you do the cheap violin. The bow strokes are slightly longer, the vibrato is more pronounced, and you are slightly more animated. Presumably you did this in the blinded comparison as well. So, while the expensive violin sounds a little better, some of that may be due to the better play it got from you.
It’s quite amazing, really, how the difference in sound between these two instruments is far more subtle than the difference in price. It takes an incredibly cheap violin to produce a sound that is noticeably inferior to that of an expensive violin. It seems to me that once you get above $3000 to $4000, the sound quality between violins of all prices is pretty much the same.
The violins both respond very differently, on the cheap one vibrato doesn’t come out that easily and the bowing doesn’t speak, so I couldn’t do the things exactly the same or the difference would be bigger. But yes: the difference is not 200 times better and in higher end violins the differences in quality are more subtle although they can be very different in character.
VIOLIN LOUNGE by Violinist Zlata
Your statements that the vibrato “doesn’t come out” as easily and the bowing “doesn’t speak” are unclear. They can mean anything you want them to mean. Comparisons need to be a bit more concrete.
Cheaper strings may not be as easily vibrated by the bow, much the same way synthetic bow hairs may not vibrate the strings as easily as horse hairs. Vibrato may be more difficult if the strings of the cheap violin are too high off the fingerboard, requiring more effort to rock your fingertip back and forth. I’m just offering some examples.
These would be the kinds of clear, concrete, comparisons that everyone can see and demonstrate for themselves.
I think B is the expensive one, it seems to resonate more but Zlata made them both sound great. The beautiful melodies have her glowing too. Wish I could play an instrument.
Thank you, Rebecca, you can definitely learn! I offer a free beginner course for the violin right here: www.violinlounge.com/beginnercourse
But your hands are worth millions..give them to a begginer to compare.
Thank you! It will certainly be different. However, my violin could be hard to play for a beginner as well.
You could make any violin sound good. I think violin B is the expensive one though.
You got it! 👌🏻
You make the Chinese violin sound so good! I vote A is cheap & B is $$$$. 👍😁
Thanks, Marty, it shows that a decent violin can be affordable for everyone and investing in skill pays off more than investing in gear to a certain extend.
A is the cheap violin
The violin that is more cheap is A I mean the other violin is okay but a just takes the cake
nina gammar66 yes, tell me about your violin, Nina!
A but not 200 times worse
Seems about same to me. Maybe the the expensive one sounded a little melo
Thanks for sharing!
Both sound great as you play them 😺👍. Though I didn't like the scratchy sound at violin A. It was "scratchier" somehow at some parts. The notes (several notes in the beginning) were not similar with the violin B, I think it is better call it the color of the tone. At the first several notes they were a little bit "stingy", while violin B is more "warmer" and "calm" with "some degree of roundness sound". But the rest were just fine. Your playing techniques just blurred my perception then 😹😹👍👍🎻🎻.
I think also Violin B has rich tone colours, it's like it has layer of many sounds, especially when you drop the note to the lower string after playing the higher tones at A/E string. I didn't get the same impression at Violin A.
Matching the character from the first presentation, I think Violin A seems to be the cheap one. I think we need to "customize" the cheap violin to reduce the "stingy" and "scratchy" sound. 😺👍
Fighter Cat yes, B sounds cleaner and has richer sound colours indeed, partially caused by the age and quality of the wood.
@@violinlounge Ah, I see. The wood :) . Anyway, do you think it is influenced also to the string quality? Since I assume you played Violin A with the same string as you purchased it.
And what is the song's names? I like the melody. :)
Fighter Cat it’s a combination of many factors amongst which the wood, craftsmanship, set up etc. The piece is the Meditation from Thais by Massenet. I’ve got a tutorial video on it right here: violinlounge.com/how-to-play-meditation-from-thais-by-massenet-on-the-violin/
@@violinlounge Thank you Zlata :) I'll try to play it
What is the name of the song that you played for the blind test?
Meditation from Thaïs by Massenet.
A
A
I do not play violin. But I think most people choose Violin B because the performance in Violin A was a little bit out of tune compared to B. There is also a possibility that you played the Violin A with lesser bow control consistency than B, hence some people say that the Violin A is more scratchier, which I don't think has nothing to do with the quality of the wood. It's also possible that it has something to do with the rosin, or inferior strings but not the violin itself. But I am amazed with the sound quality of the Violin A. I will probably choose it over B if played equally well. I will say it's a tie for now.
You proved that the skill of the player is more important than the quality of the material, as long as the instrument has a proper setup and is comfortable to use. I am amazed the way you made the cheap violin sound like a pro. Give me those skills! x)
The thing is, and you'll notice this as soon as you start playing, that on the Glarry it was WAY more difficult to play in tune... almost impossible. The bow that came with it, was wobbly, so almost impossible to control. I took a lot of effort to make it sound good and in tune, but of course this cheap instrument has limited possibilities.
@@violinlounge I see so that's why. It probably needs a serious setup from a luthier to match the playability of the expensive one. Thanks for the additional information about this. Cheers!
cyrudejesu 🥂
a
Do you use a cheap bow with the cheap violin or not?
How did you fixed the cheap violin tunning pegs?
Yes, I used the cheap bow that came with the violin. I pushed the pegs inside with some force so they would stay there. Although they don’t fit according to the book, the tuning stability was quite all right.
I saw on another site they sell a tapered drill bit that you can use to HAND DRILL the hole using the drill bit. Made sense to me. Won't put the sites name here. Wouldn't be cool.
I really don't have a good ear. So far others say it is A that is the cheap violin and I think B is the cheap violin.
You got it! Tell me about your own violin! :)
After serious review I MUST SAY...A was better than B when B wasn't plying and visa-versa. My opinions sustain!!
What make it difference is the one who play it 😅🤣😂
Yup, the musician the most important instrument!
@@violinlounge indeed... 1 millon dollar violin can't play by it self 😅🤣😂
A
You got it, Wayne, tell me about your violin :)
Mom brought me an $88 violin. About two weeks, I got tired of the tinny sound from the strings.
So, I decided to put Perlon strings for a softer sound, but the Bridge snapped when half way tuned!.
A Guitar shop used a standard Violin bridge which had to be shaped and sanded.
Setting the sound post, new strings, and a bridge cost close to $100.
A few months ago, I learned you can rent to own for $30 and up. I would have been happier with a $300 Violin. I was not aware of a Violin shop in the next town 16 miles away.
Wayne Andrews repairs are quickly too expensive with a cheap violin. Good that you found the violin shop!
It's not the violin that's good it's the one playing it
meme galaxy to great extend yes.
Yes
A
Your countries have much more per capita income therefore instruments like these expensive could be affordable
Am I correct miss zalta
Yes, instruments from countries with higher incomes are more expensive.
She can make 50$ sounds 10,000$.
Thank you 🙏🏻
No matter how cheap the violin is Zlata can make it sound beautiful any way.
Amanda Saunders 🥰
A
its always man behind the machine 😎
Exactly!
D
B
Hello, although it is cheap, but if you send it to me, I will be very happy because the violin that I had lost at an airport while I was on my way home in Iraq
A is the cheap violin in my opinion.
You got it, Isabelle, tell me about your own violin! :)
Ik denk dat A de goedkope viool is. Hij klinkt alsof het meer moeite kost om er een mooi geluid uit te halen. Viool B heeft meer resonantie en ook meer, hoe zal ik het zeggen, een eigen geluid van zichzelf. Helemaal zeker ben ik niet omdat het best een kort stukje was.
Klopt helemaal, Anka, maar eigenlijk best bijzonder dat veel mensen twijfelen of juist B zeiden.
@@violinlounge Ik denk dat het komt omdat je uit A een heel mooi geluid wist te halen. Niet iedereen hoort dan dat dat best moeite kostte.
Anka Voskuilen wat wel gek was, is dat de opname met mijn eigen viool vaker over moest... reageert fijner, dus het komt nauwer om iets goed te doen.
@@violinlounge O ja, dat geloof ik direct! Dat kon je ook goed horen: de klank van A was steeds hetzelfde, a.h.w. stabieler, maar daarmee is er natuurlijk uiteindelijk minder expressie mogelijk. Pleit toch ook weer voor B.
What is the name of that profoundly shaking piece of music
Do you mean the opening of the Bruch concerto I play?
@@violinlounge thanku
I think B is the cheap violin😳
Sorry, it's A!
I prefer the cheap one... 🙃 It was B!
haha, oh dear ;)
A i think haha love your videos
Got it! :)
Another youtuber violinist compared Glarry violin with $10 million Stradivarius. Must be my poor ear, but Stradivarius is not worth the money for me. I can easily be content playing $50 Glarry violin and at my skill level a Stradivarius will also sound like a cheap violin. LOL
Honestly both sound good with you playing them both.
I think the cheap was B. I'm an engineer and play a fretless Bass since 1970 professionally. So I may be thrown off by the background noise of B.. the "din" so to speak. too many overtones to fight with harmonics...you did not play the same notes in the original offering for review that you did in the piece in question. So the tones are not offered the same observance. I fought with this quite a bit...so considering the fact that today almost everything in a studio can be replicated or remedied... I must add for your consideration that the difference is quite small if all one is doing is playing ONE axe on a track. The real meat and potatoes is in LIVE PERFORMANCE with others playing in real time. If using in a track I would GATE the hollow din reverberant that remains when the instrument is not sounding. Ie...the background noise of the wood it was created from. BTW...no matter how it sounds... it is one hell of a deal compared to buying guitars! Your playing my dear has MUCH TO BE DESIRED!!!! I'm being honest. I would desire to hear you play ANY TIME OF DAY OR NIGHT...get used to the idea. My neighbor played in the San Diego Symphony and I also recorded several musicians in the Cleveland Orchestra .and YOU my dear....ROCK....killer pitch. Get used to the idea.
Oooops, the cheap violin was A and the expensive one B... but don't worry. You definitely weren't the only one who mixed them up!
A cheap. B expensive.
You got it, Jonathan, tell me about your own violin!
A is the cheap violin.
Yup!
I think A is the cheap one.
You got it!