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- Comparing two iconic platforms! How they handle and what's probably the better all-around choice! The AK is specifically a Chinese Type 56 Spiker, and John's M16A1 is wearing a carbine-length upper and short stock when we do this video.
First video with this Chinese Type 56 AK: • Chinese Type 56 AK Fu...
First video with John's M16A1: • Colt M16A1
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First video with this Chinese Type 56 AK: th-cam.com/video/B_kuyBWQEcY/w-d-xo.html
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You said it took you about a year to possess those fully automatic rifles. Do you hold an FFL? Out of curiosity, and unless I missed it, could you explain what you had to do as a civilian, non-law enforcement in order to purchase and possess full auto capable firearms. Thanks!
our idiot leader up north of you banned all m16 varients yet we can still legally buy AK`s,,logic
You need an m2 carbine full auto
Think you have a Mac90
My Dad was a Marine combat veteran in Vietnam. 66 67. He swore by the M14. He never got over his distaste for the M16. Wouldnt even consider a modern AR15. I tried telling him things have changed since the 1960s but he didnt care lol
But....when a rifle like the M14 kept you alive i guess you tend to be very fond of it. Dad was in very nasty combat...including Khe Sahn hill battle. He had a purple heart and bronze star. Sadly he passed away in 2021
Your dad could not defeat a VC with an M16 if he stood behind a large banana tree trunk! This is a disadvantage about the M16 in the Vietnam war. M15 nowadays has more punch as the AK47.
@@TT-dp8qh funny thing is I bought a AK47 back in 2004 and Dad loved it 😂😂. I thought it was kinda strange how he liked the gun that he was shot at with lol. But no he just loved to shoot it 👍.
@@JohnnyRebKy AK has a lot of punches but it is not accurate to its target. In the Vietnam war, the VCs had to spray more bullets into the bushes. This will also create the opponents to pinpoint where they at and the sound from their guns.
Your dad sounds like he was very cool, I hope you handled his loss alright
Thank your dad for his service in that Vietnam war. I went to vietnam for a holiday and I noticed most of the people don't talk bad about "the American soldiers" and are very polite even a war can be evil and leave a lot trauma's ...
Anyway, thanks again and the M14 is a awesome rifle.❤
I was in Vietnam in 1968 and 1969. I was a recon patrol leader and used the M16 and CAR15. The M16 had all the bugs out of it by the time I used it. It was dependable if you kept it clean. It was light and easy to wield in the heavy bush. You could carry a lot of ammunition for it because the ammunition was light. At one point I carried 600 rounds, and, yes, that much is heavy but doable. It lacked range. That was the only drawback. Beyond 400 meters the 223 lost its punch and in the central highlands of Vietnam, we needed a quick light rifle for close work and a rifle that could reach out across ravines and valleys to, say, 800 meters or so.
Salute!
Thank you for your video and professional opinion about the wepon.
It great to hear are veterans point of view.
There's no better person for the job. ❤
You got a 30cal and the Poodle Shooter.
Glad you made it back, WELCOME HOME!!
Yeah but do you condemn Khvietcong?
The AK design is, and will always have a majestic look! It’s my all time favorite for looks!!!
I associate communism and banana republics with the AK. Give me a Western weapon any day.
My favorite design is the STG 44, followed by AK.
Hey there Hickok! Doc Lawson chiming in. Back in 87-88 we deployed with 1st MarDiv to Okinawa as the MEU. Went to the live fire mortar range and one of my Marines had an accident. He had his M-16 slung while dropping the mortar round. The round hit the M-16 barrel, continued downrange hit the ground and exploded, as you might expect. Well my Marine had a contusion from the sling being pulled away from his shoulder. He was black and blue for a couple of weeks, there were no other casualties except the armorer! I do believe he is still crying. Well sir, the barrel of that M-16 took an angle of about ninety degrees give or take a few degrees, rendering the weapon “unserviceable”. That means the M-16 could not be saved! Thank you for the videos. I enjoy them immensely! Keep up the good work, sir.
Wow holy shit😊
Oh wow
"You wait until im done, camera speaker."
- full auto M16
I remember Lee Ermey did a comparison of the AK and M16 on History Ch, man that was a fun series to watch.
I sure miss him. A fond memory of mine is getting to chat with him at SHOT Show out on the shooting range a few years ago.
Magazine quality played a key role when it came to the jamming of my M16. Old worn out magazine springs, dents, etc was the #1 reason it would jam.
Reminds me of that M1 Garand 7th round stoppage.
But shows that an AAR will run fine if you keep it maintained.
I’m a 16 year disabled combat veteran
The stances and holds are different between the two weapons
Once you know how to stand behind the AK and hold it, it’s very more comfortable to shoot and control
The M4 or M16 can be fired comfortably more like most of us are used to
They are different beasts
Always love watching you ✌️🇺🇸
I have been following you since 2008. You are the original channel for the 2A community and run genuine channel. Thanks for providing such wholesome and educational videos to the world for over 15 years. Bless you sir. As to your question for veterans, I used an M16 in the early phase of Iraq and an M4 for the rest of my 20 year career. The only malfunctions I ever had were with blanks or extremely ill-maintained hand me down magazines. It is perfect in every way.
Thank you for your service! OHARNG as a Small Arms Repairman and Section Chief, 1980-86. I have inspected thousands of M16A1s. But I had to repair very few. I agree with you. Blanks are not reliable. Magazines that were circulated around were the biggest problem. This was especially true with the 30rd magazines. Also, maintenance is very important. My issue was the M16a1 with M203 Grenade launcher. Loved it! Hickok is absolutely correct...ergonomics are awesome! If the M16/M4 were garbage the military would have ceased its use a long time ago.
Сидит такой америкашка тупой в джунглях Вьетнама дне видимость 2-3 метра и думает😊
А не заказать ли мне с АлиЭкспресса прицел на свою м16😊
Тут же выбегает партизан в шлепках и трусах и нажимает курок АК -47.
И уже на небесах американец думает. Заберёт ли его технологичную м-16 себе.
I used an M16 when I was in the Army (no combat) in the early 80s. It performed well and was pretty accurate out to 300 meters.
I was in 1984-1990 and I never had my standard M16 fail. We did clean it every time we had any downtime. Clean, clean, clean.
My Father did 3 combat tours in Vietnam in 101st Airborne Division ...And what he used to bring up is how many younger guys would panic under fire because the M16 would jam alot. He also mentioned, quite frequently , that even though it was illegal to do, they would pick up and use the AK47. He said you could pick up an AK out of a muddy swamp and it would fire like brand new...I'm aware now that reliability is greatly improved
Look up some mud tests with AK rifles they always fail since the loose tolerances let mud into the rifle while AR15 platform rifles always easily pass since they have tight tolerances which don’t let mud in and a dust cover
@@dariodicarlo8745 all those are chinese or romaninan replicas. Try some real russian authentic akm or ak 74m they simply never jam.
@@lacroix1159 The best AKs aren’t even Russian lol 😂🤣 the best ones are zastavas and even those jam especially in mud or sand
@@dariodicarlo8745 ROFL. Zastava rifle hardly can be considered from ak series.
@@lacroix1159 Tell me do Russian AKs have some kind of magic metal mud cannot stick to? Did mikhail kalashnikovs spirit bless all Russian AKs to never once have mud get in the bolt or trigger assembly? Cause you’re making all these excuses that a Russian AK would never jam yet with an AR15 even a 500 dollar poverty tier rifle would easily dump a whole mag even after being chucked in the mud with the dust cover down
I realize it now but when I was in the Army I was not an M-16 fan but now I realize the overwhelming issues I had were the magazines. The Army loved to give you old worn out magazines. Today Magpul mags have me loving the AR platform.
You are 100% correct
Love both. The M4 was my favorite during my time in the Marine Corps. As much as I love the AR platform, I think the AK wins in my book. The AK opened up my eyes when I tried one out. I field stripped it and noticed the design is so simple. Just the recoil spring, bolt carrier, and bolt. Less moving parts and less parts to keep up with compared to the AR.
The Ak is just to inaccurate for me. I want a gun that shoots straight.
@@cartererickson5819 seems like a shooter error to me. There’s youtubers like AK Operator showing that AK’s are accurate. I think the misconception is when people first shoot an AKM, the 7.62x39 has a completely different bullet trajectory than that of a 5.56x45 so they don’t know their holdovers at different distances.
And AR has only 1 moving part in the partial disassembly - a bolt, and a handle. So, it is a much simpler design than AK in service disassembly, it takes less than 10 seconds to take apart M16 for partial disassembly, 3 times longer for AK, not to mention that you can replace a barrel of AR/M16 right in the trenches if needed, but AK barrel is pressed in and so cannot be replaced in the field.
You got F for the ability to count rifle parts, and for a knowledge of both rifles design difference.
I too served with the Marines and I agree, the Ak is a better weapon. Did you know that the internals of the Ak are derived from the M-1 Garand? Few know that.
@@cartererickson5819😅an AK is more accurate than u think it is it’s accurate out to 400 meters
A Troop 3/4 Calvary here, I hauled troops and I hauled ammo from the ammo dump. The paperwork for an opened case drove the range officer crazy so myself and the range Seargent had a few of the troops leave their 16s back and we went through the remaining ammo in the case. Not one jam or misfire. I even had the opportunity to fire an AK while stationed at Fort Bliss and that was a beast.
@@marktate4466Thank you but no thanx needed, proud to serve. Would do it again but 64 now, lol.
An RSO worth his weight would have taken the time to use that ammo for proper additional training opportunities for his unit and or saved the ammunition for a later training event. As fun as that is, that is the reason we don’t have ample trigger time anymore, because people like that waste unit funds.
I was stationed at Ft. Bliss. 5-52 ADA.😁
@@dhackstall1 Ist of the third Herd Calvary
@hellomynameis2767 shut up, honestly you ass. I'm active duty, we spend 12 hours on the range already. You push that out to 20 you will have someone getting shot. The military loves to waste our time as is.
Hey Hickok ! Shot quite a bit in Switzerland close to where I live, many great shooters and gun lovers over here just like you in the US ! Both platforms are much beloved here and owned by many. Their older service rifles are high caliber and a blast to shoot, though many also love the AR too, they are made by Sig, by HK, the american-made are rarer but quite the collection piece. Sadly too many M4s here are cheap Norinco knock-offs, the real OGs are highly sought after ! I have a weak spot too for cold war oldies, high powered rifles, but love me an AR anyday and also your great .45 caliber ! Thanks for the full auto showcase as it's quite the sight and pretty rare, even in the french army firing full auto with the FAMAS was discouraged as its rof is too high so it left the barrel blue and we didn't get a lot of spares ! We relied upon the belgian-made Minimi for that, I think the US military calls it the M249, awesome weapon and very lightweight for it's punch. The M16 seems more controllable than the FAMAS, no wonder why nowadays they replaced them with 416s anyway. It is a bit of a shame, any newbie could shoot reliably at 300 meters with it, and the old hands up to 800 meters easily, lightweight and compact, never jammed on me either except firing blanks. The AKM and the OG Armalite are both legendary firearms in any case, keep it up !
The overloaded mic with the M16 is so cool. Makes it sound like a space gun.
Yeah, and if one doesn't have his ears on tight, it will "overload" the eardrums, for sure. Anybody who has one of these staged for that "bump in the night" had better have some good ear protection staged, as well. One shot indoors, and my brain would be mush. :-)
I went to Vietnam in '67 as a rifleman and yes my M16 jammed on me in combat. I got one of the newer M16s in Feb. or March of '68 and never had another problem. I fired a captured AK and really liked it but in talking to some SF guys who had more experience with the AK than I did they swore by the M16 in comparison.
Aks just hit harder and are very accurate anything up to 350-400metres, the 7.62 used to shred through trees and branches during the Vietnam war and hit their targets with the fact it never jammed
I heard stories that SF guys also love Degtyaryov PD(RPD), usually they would cut the barrel short and attached with suppressors. Very useful in the jungle.
Swore by M16 in comparison - what does that mean? Don't get it.
@@TheFaveteLinguis It means that they preferred the M16...without thinking twice about it
@@shaquileoatmeal7365 got it, thank you.
Hickocks so humble, He is the godfather of firearms!
lol he's calling everyone peasants lmao
Really? Guns have been around a lot longer than youtube!
@@stevesparks2001 yes I know this, I like watching him he knows a lot about firearms and he is also a hell of a shot!
@@robbirob825he was calling the viet cong peasants. Because that’s who used the AK in Vietnam dummy
@@daltonpoff5051he shoulders the weapon in his right hand while using his left eye to aim. It’s a classic rookie mistake that gets addressed day one of the rifle range in basic training
i've shot both when i was in the army infantry in the early 2000s. We had the M16A2 version at that time which were in the process of being phased out. While the M16 was fairly dependable, it still jammed way too much for comfort even after thorough cleaning. Everytime i pulled the trigger it was always in the back of my mind that it could jam. I never had that experience of anxiety with the AK, add in the stronger stopping power, i'd take it over the M16 anyday, dependability was my top priority when it came to my weapons.
Amen 2 that. If it james it dosen't matter how much more accurate it is at any yardage/meters.
Yikes. That A2 was easily 20 years old in the '00s though, they were originally fielded in the early 80's. Was it clapped out pretty bad? Any idea of the barrel round count, amount of gas hole erosion, buffer spring round count, etc.? Did they even teach you how to check the gas rings?
I had the A4 in 11B and 11C OSUT (went through Basic twice), which is as far as my military career went, but we put at least 100 live rounds and a ton of blanks through it per cycle in '06, and I didn't have a single jam between either of them. Those things were as reliable as the sunrise. Ditto for my home rolled rifles I have now, which are put together with a range of parts from budget to mid-tier. They've never handed with steel, 223, or 5.56. They're definitely the more maintenance intensive rifle though, compared to the AK
@@bushwacker2048Bro, nobody in my unit knew any of that, we had experts higher up to worry about all of that, all we cared about was whether the weapons we were assigned was reliable or not and for me, it worked well enough if you pretended not to notice how dependable the AK was in comparison. Like i said, it was in the process of being phased out for the M4 while i was there, i was happy when we were issued them, it was definitely an improvement in reliability but still jammed on occasion if you got lazy in the maintenance of it.
@@stuka80 oh I believe it. The reliability I experienced probably had a lot to do with those crazy white-glove rifle cleanliness inspections the drill Sargeants did after every range/blank round training day, lol
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Im glad your video came across my feed again. I remember watching you as a boy and envying your range. Im glad to see youre still making videos and have the same easy going attitude. Thank you.
The sound of the M16 on full auto screams MERICA! Love that M16 👍
America is a Latin word😂
Just curious, who won the Vietnam war and who used which weapons?
I googled it, communist stayed and America left in 1976.
I'm confident that full autos will be constitutionally available to buy within the next few years
Too bad 😞 the average American can't afford one.
U.S. Army, in country 1971. I never had an issue with my M16A1. I cleaned it everyday and put a prophylactic over the muzzle to prevent rain from entering the barrel of my weapon. The instructions were in the form of a comic book😀
Thank you for your service! I was later 89-93 as an Army MP.
@@vornado8715 I was an MP too(95B).
God bless you both for your service@@vornado8715
Keeping an M-16 clean is paramount!
If you can keep it clean you can confidently shoot 300 meters with deadly accuracy and no problems
Thank you for reviewing both of these fantastic firearms, sir. I appreciate that you weren't unfair or harsh in your criticisms of either firearm. This was a really interesting watch. They both work well for their intended purposes and users.
Love the combination of history and firearms. Great piece!
Let me start by saying that I grew up in a house full of weapons. My father was an Air Force pilot. I served with the Marines. When I was in boot camp I was issued the M16/A1. I absolutely loved that weapon. It was a lightweight and a very accurate RIFLE. I Came across the Ak47 years after I left the Marines, while I was with the "contras" in Latin America. I immediately realized that these two weapons were not even in the same category. The Soviet Union designed the Ak47 as a fully automatic fire suppression platform much as the PPSH was. The M16/A1 was a rifle with an intermediate cartridge, but it was still a rifle. And this is why you can't compare "apples & oranges." The Ak goes from safe to auto, the M16 from safe to semi. What I found is that in a jungle environment, the Ak is far better. Why? Besides reliability, the 7.62x39 doesn't tumble when it hits branches or foliage the 5.56 does. That's my experience.
Huh? AKs’ go safe, semi, auto. M-16 go safe, semi, burst.
M4 go safe, semi, auto. Come on.
AK goes from safe semi auto.
when i left the Corps i ended up working with bob poo's CMAG's i did 18's months with victor chamaros COE 11' det it's where i got my ivan-47' and my cuban army officers belt buckle and a few good photos of me and my contra brothers 3' americans and 9' Nicaraguans and 2' miskito Indians out of the camps in tecigulapa honduras
I carried a M-60 in the Army infantry for 5 years and never had any problems with it. I took it through all kinds of weather conditions, mud, sand, rainforest to deserts. Never failed me. I got a M-4 through pretty much the same conditions and it broke within twice in 4 years. The gas tube exploded and the trigger mechanism broke at the hammer spring and hammer. I much prefer the M-60. I’ve even “battlefield resupplied with the AK-47 and I think it’s more reliable than the M-16 stile rifle. But my heart goes to the M-60.
@@Jason7.62x39 The only part that you can install backwards is the gas piston. All other parts are one way fit.
The M60 stopped being used in 1994 ..
@@richardpickett3882thats correct sir..But what I liked about it is you could adjust the rate of fire..
@@swampghost72 Ok. And I joined in 89. I’m kind of an old guy
@@swampghost72 you’re thinking of the 240b. The 60 was a steady 550 per minute
I would choose either depending on what ammo I had available at the time. As a 19D Cav Scout we were trained on both platforms. As a soldier the M-16 and ammo loadout is quite a bit lighter for the same amount of ammo so that gives it a slight nod, but for the average civilian self-defense use case that is not as big of a deal.
Education instead of ending lives for fun , this guy clearly has a good respect for the use of the firearms great videos
That m16 on full auto makes such a badass sound. Holy crap.
Yeah that surprised me as well.
@@rg20322i know both are legit weapons of war but that m16 sounds on a different level of, "you just f#%ked up."
So does an AK, especially when it's being fired at you.
@taraswertelecki3786 these guys are high AK sounds more monsterious in real life.
Sounds like it'd saw you in half if you moved it up to down, honestly. Media doesn't portray how nasty firearms sound correctly. So good.
The mic is getting blown out with the M16 🤣
Geez..that opening scene was brutal!
Awesome Channel Hickok45 forever❤
Man looking at the 2 in full auto is so cool.
Both obviously very deadly but that m‐16 just sounds like a fine tuned high performance machine ❤
Having fired both during the 80's, I feel the M16 was better at distance, but the AK seemed to be more dependable and durable.
The M-16 is easier to keep on target in full auto too, referring to the 7.62x39mm AK's. I havent fired a true AK-74 but ive heard they are quite easy to fire full auto though.
@@davidca96 We had one field exercise in Germany where we got to sample it. That was fun!
Shut up
@@davidca96 545x39 has no recoil. I highly recommend you try it!!
@@midnightclub7629 I will one day for sure thanks, I have always heard that about them. The problem is the ammo isnt allowed to be imported anymore, or the parts kits so the rifles and ammo become more rare and expensive every year. I can remember when 5.45 was dirt cheap true Russian military crates, now we cant get them anymore.
being a combat veteran from Vietnam there was something else the difference in sound when fired. In some firefights we didn't see the enemy we saw muzzle flashes we often fired at the flash and the different sound. I used to laugh at some veterans who said during afire fight that they would pick up an AK-47 and fight with it. If they did that, they would be subject to friendly fire
who is enemy ....2 mama s boy
AK is more simple, effective, no need maintenance and it’s excellent gun for any condition.
Love the sound compression of the shots! :)
In 1970 at Fort Dix NJ we were taught when using Full Auto at a close target to start by aiming low left and it generally lifts up to the right.
Thats true sir..They once taught that..But that is no longer taught..They teach you techniques to fire accurate with control..
A Galil in 5.56 vs. an M16 would be an interesting comparison. Also, a high end M4 with the latest, greatest kit vs. an “Alpha” AK 74 would be great. Comparison videos are always fun to watch!
Alpha ak74 and alpha ak105s are my favorite types of guns, turned me from an ar guy to ak guy lol
Maybe share the AKM or the AK-74 might be a better comparison.
The Ak is just to inaccurate for me. I want a gun that shoots straight.
@@David-nc5dl AK is just as accurate as a M4.
The galil 556 is nice.
@@matthewwagner47 have you ever seen a scope on the ak? Nope. And probably never will. The Ak will never be as accurate or "just as accurate" as the M4 platform. The ak should be in a museum lol
I've always HATED this argument. It's like comparing apples and oranges.
So what do you do then? Carry both?
They're guns bro
@@JamesGetsAllTheGirls We are not bros. You don't know me.
@@junior3429 I carry nunya.
Hugo Schmeisser was in the same factory after WW2 as Kalashnikov, with 6 other German firearms experts, so you are spot on.
Ergonomics on AKs are different but not worse than those of the AR. The issue most Americans have is that they go with the more traditional upright stance whereas the AK demands you to take a far more aggressive and modern forward stance. It REALLY requires you to not be afraid to practically plant your face to the receiver. Once you get that down, it’s just as controllable as an AR, in fact I would argue it’s more controllable if you happen to be someone with a smaller frame. I would also argue that the AK’s manual of arms are easier for a novice shooter than those of the AR.
I would beg to differ on the ergomonics part;
There was a series a channel by the name of "the wound channel" had made that he since deleted from his channel (but not before it was archived) where he would take brand new and inexperienced shooters, and challenged them to load (including loading rounds into the magazine), aim and shoot both an AK and an AR without instruction. It eventually changed to various other guns, but the first few involved only those two rifles.
Of the 3 or 4 people he tested, all figured out how to operate the AR far faster than the AK, with the AKs biggest obstacle being the stiff safety most eastern bloc produced AKs have and figuring out how to insert the magazine properly.
The AR just has objectively better and more intuitive ergonomics than the AK does, which is why everybody is copying its ergos vs the AK.
patently worse
Now try not getting a black eye from a G3A3 😁
I like the ergonomics of the AK for that very reason. That’s my preferred stance
@@burnyburnoutze2nddoesn’t that just make them stupid if the gun is designed for small children
I used to be in the military, I have gone to the range many times with the M16 and later with the M4a2. Despite the fact that many youtubers claim that the ar15 platform is more reliable than the AK, I find it VERY hard to believe. My rifle always jammed or had some issue or another. Yes Ar15 is more accurate, has less recoil but thats all the point I can give it. The AK is still around the world for a reason.
completely agree. Funny how service members who have shot m4's and m16's for thousands and thousands of rounds can always recall issues with them. My m4 jammed probably 8-10 times during just a couple of ranges. They're not ideal. AK is even easier to clean as well so if it's a cleaning issue you'll have less jams as a result of ease of access regardless.
AKs are cheap… that’s why everyone else has em. The reliability is just icing on the cake.
Go before me unfuture unhappiness gad wicked hate the weed in my right foot
Tell me this, how come everyone who has akm's are dumping them as soon as they get access to m4s....
I agree, and im not against the AR platform. I like both, but chose AK. Maybe the weight means nothing to me being a relatively big guy.
Some of the most heartbreaking photos of the soldiers who died in Vietnam, are the ones that showed soldiers who were trying to clear their weapons of a malfunction. The top receiver cracked open and the bcg removed next to them are haunting as hell. Truly stayed with me when I deployed to Africa Kosovo Afghanistan and Iraq.
I was in the Reserves and used the C7 rifle. I found your review to be very accurate. The one big plus, though, for the AK, is its simplicity. I remember having to take apart my C7 rifle to clean it with all its small parts in the bolt, that could get lost. I own an SKS, which is similar to the AK and how simple it is to clean is alot better especially if you are out in the field, especially when you are doing so at night under cover with red light.
I had the A1 in basic, jammed every time at the range. Qualifying as a sharpshooter instead of expert because of it. We were taught S.P.O.R.T.S. an acronym for
Slap...the magazine
Pull...the charging handle
Observe...the chamber
Release...the charging handle
Tap... the forward assist
Shoot.
Didn't work half the time. AR15/M16 has come a long way. I love both platforms.
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Mannnnnnn!! full auto gave me chills!!! Marine Corps in the late 80s and early 90s. Only had 3 round burst A2 then. I worked in the armory so i did get to play with and shoot many different full auto weapons. But love those full autos there. Of course, there is still nothing like the sound of the M60. Get ya one of those Hickok! lol
I believe his son John has the m60
Ak reliability is legendary its works without cleaning low maintenance
An old vet told me the difference between the 5.56 (M-16) and the 7.62x39 (AK) bullet was; the 556 was like a Ferrari very sleek and fast, but if it hit a tree limb would be all over the place… whereas the AK round was like bulldozer, big, heavy, strong, and would push the freakin tree down…
that's fuddtastic. 🤣😂🤣
The ultimate rifle for mowing down stuff was the garand, but the M14 was no slouch either, But two heavy weapons.
I have an AK , SKS, and about 12 AR's! I feel just as you do! they are both great guns! love the content keep it up
I own Semiautomatic versions of both AK and AR, and the question that always comes up to me is how do they compare to each other, My answer is think of the AK as a broad sword and the AR as a fencing sword. One is more harder-hitting and brutal and the other is faster and more precise.
That opening was beautiful lol! I love seeing hickock merc a barrell.
I've had to resubscribe to your channel a handful of times in the last 6 months. I've had to resubscribe to most pro 2A channels of course but the last 6 months tour channel seems to be an unbelievable amount of times. I just wanted to let you know, love your content.
The muzzle blast on that M16 is insane!
It’s because it’s a really short barrel
@@seethemore6360and its firing hotter than 7.62
yea short barrel AR rifles/pistols throw huge fireballs because half the powder is igniting outside not inside haha.
@@davidca96 I want a short barrel AR so bad but you're basically making yourself deaf permanently if you ever fire that badboy indoors with no hearing protection.
@@seethemore6360 Really a full length AR shot inside still utterly rocks your eardrums, the 5.56 round is absurdly loud but yea its worse the shorter the barrel as more of the "explosion" happens outside.
wow. what a iconic sound when that M-4 went full auto. love it. Clay
For real! That short barrel was literally a blast!
Love your channel,thank you for years of very good, educational content
Ahh, Hickok, asking the big questions. Keep up the good work.
Among the many videos I've seen on this, it comes down to basically a couple things:
M4 is generally more accurate over distance, but the AK hits harder
AK is known for being more rugged and reliable, but M4 if you maintain it like you should, should be just as reliable. The sacrifice is the AK is heavier and (generally) has looser tolerances during manufacturing.
Ammo tends to be cheaper in the AK, but you gamble reliability
Being the proud owner of an AK, I can say that it will eat any ammo you put through it (brass, steel, rusty steel, hollow point, ball, soft point) and it doesn't seem to care. In this day and age it's largely a matter of preference.
i dont think the ammo being cheaper for 7.62 has been the case for about 2 years now unfortunately...
I have put 5000+ rounds of the cheapest steel case through my VEPR it has never had a single failure
@@diegogolfhotelmake your own ammo and mould your own bullets. Hornady makes small rifle primer ak brass although its a mfkr to find. Small rifle primers are easier and cheaper to find. Ar primers work best, less likely for slamfires. Ar with an ak upper, 2 uppers for the most common rounds on the planet. Love the 130 grain rcbs spitzer bullet mould. Works great for moulding pure zinc bullets too
@@pitchforkpeasant6219 isn’t the barrier of entry for ammo remanufacturing really high though? Like what’s the least you could spend to safely reman ammo?
You nailed it
Let's make a premise: Kalashnikov and Stoner designed their creatures with battlefields in mind, not sports, okay? both are fine for playing, it depends on taste, like choosing a car, a motorbike, ok lightness, aesthetics, feeling... but in the tough clashes of the front line, far from supplies, when I don't have the comfortable table at home to clean the gun and sometimes even the time, facts demonstrate that the Ak's piston system is more reliable. In fact, the latest and most expensive versions of the AR platform have a piston system. Very good, it's not a simple coincidence, it's a choice.
That’s inaccurate. Stoner’s original design was meant for the civilian market.
@@coryhoggatt7691it’s kinda true and not true
I qualed with the M16 in boot camp, got issued an M4 in the fleet, then it got replaced with the M27. While I was sad to see my M4 go to a POG unit because it was a really good rifle my M27 was insane. The accuracy was amazing, durability was off the charts, yeah the barrel was a little longer but it’s still very manageable in CQB when you train with it, I didn’t really notice much of a difference. Not to mention the accuracy out to farther ranges was awesome and giggle mode is incredibly manageable. I loved that rifle.
Giggle mode, gotta remember that one for full auto. 🙂
Those are some gnarly sounding rifles! Excellent presentation sir.
Love em both! As a civilian I feel that the AK is a more satisfying shooting experience overall. Hard to explain exactly why. However, in a pinch I'd want the AR. Wouldn't hesitate trusting my life to either though.
Probably because it looks so cool and shoots a larger bullet
I love both. Have an AR but I'd definitely take an AK to battle. Especially in these thick nordic woods..
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In a pinch id be ok having either one..But given a choice it would depend on the situation..In most cases id take the M16 cause it shoots flatter.. Dont get it missunderstood the Ak is more accurate than people think but not as accurate as the M16..The M16 has less recoil..and as I said shoots flatter..
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I'd say more of a Julia Child Of The Firearm World:0
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Its the little things in life like this that bring joy
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The microphone muting the sound of the rounds going off sounds so cool!!!
The original Colt Model 601s initially sent to Vietnam were COTS (commercial off the shelf) rifles bought directly from Colt and used a softer aluminum alloy in the lower receiver. Months of humidity and sweat would corrode the the mag well because that's where guys were holding it when firing. Once the 601 was officially adopted as the M16 a TDP (Technical Data Package) was developed which greatly increased durability. Then the DOD ran into the self-inflicted problems with ammunition, cleaning and the lack of a chromed barrel & chamber.
Before my deployment to Nam, at Fort Dix I was trained on the new m16 and during one practice session of enfilade action, the rifle jammed and became useless. When assigned to my unit in Bien Hoa, in march 1968, I didn’t have any more problems as the weapon assigned to me was the M14. Towards the end of my tour having moved north to Chu Lai, i acquired an AK, Chinese, and it was a preferred choice.
How did you resupply ammo during a firefight?
I don’t know if you heard about it but they are knocking down parts of fort dix to build an film production facility for Netflix
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@@HanJianKeXing_1what’s not to like
@HanJianKeXing_1 I'm not sure I would say Americans are "very intrested" in Norinco. I think a better discription would be Norinco is a part of the conversation. A conversation about bottom tier guns.
hickock at his wise old age is still handing full auto 7.62x39 like rambo. feels good to see, you're awesome youtube gun grandpa
I had the A2 and loved it. The thing only had three round bursts, but it was highly effective. No problems.
Great.
Very informative.
Thank you.
I love the look of the commando M16. Looks like it’s right out of an 80’s action movie and sounds incredible on FA. Great video.
Me too. In Blackhawk Down, the Delta guys carried some badass CAR 15s, Commandos, etc.
Not a game or video. Its real
@@rodneyalaking8241I particularly loved their M14s ! With a .45 sidearm... what a great kit
When you go full, auto My God, the noise period it's incredible. Wow, thanks for the video, I'm super impressed.
Even if it’s been done before nobody does it quite like you @hickok45 you are my favorite gun guy! Been watching your videos for a longtime. #Amazing content
There are videos of the AR performing better than the AK after being pulled out of the mud, turns out the tighter tolerances of the AR help prevent the ingress of mud. I have chosen the AR over the AK for several reasons but the main one is versatility, one lower receiver can be easily converted to different calibers by simply changing the upper receiver.
You have to find a bigger tree to hide behind, if an AK is being fired at you though.
Carried the M16 A1 during my time (1986-'89) in the 1st Cav.Div , 2/8th Cav Ft.Hood Tx. Assigned to a M1 Abrams Tank unit as a medic , our small arms were of the older inventory . The Infantry usually had the newer weapons . Just to give you an idea , I remember an Abrams loader carrying around an old M3 "grease gun" . IDK how old my M16 was but it was old , beat up , had a cracked handguard , and it rattled . However , I don't remember that rifle ever malfunctioning . In-fact , what I do remember is that it was reliable and accurate as hell . So chalk one up for the ol' M16 !
Thanks for sharing and your service, I appreciate the way you explain both rifles.
Knowledge is important.
Plus being on social media you presented a great respect to fire arms.
It's not the weapon, it's the person that, training not for them. Thanks Sir for sharing and explaining.
Thanks, but I was not in the service. I was busy in college playing basketball and chasing young ladies while the bullets were flying in Southeast Asia.
There's enough "stolen valor" out there. I'm just a shooter and never was an operator of any kind.
I realize it's a bit confusing sometimes, especially with so many "mall ninja's" on social media. :-)
Hey Mr. Hickok I was a Security police in the Air Force 1974-1980. We were issued Viet Nam era hand me down M16s, bird cage flash suppressors, triangular forend and no forward assist. When I was Issued my first rifle at Homestead it was a mess, caked on carbon on the bolt assembly and barrel. I worked on it a lot, but I got it pristine. After working on the sights it ended up being an 1 MOA rifle at 2 hundred yards. But then I was stationed to Osan Korea and the M16 I was issued was terrible, I couldn't get better than a ten inch group at 1 hundred yards. But did like playing with them on full auto, but not as good as the M60. I have several variations of ARs now and still enjoy shooting them. Thank you for your videos.
I've carried the M4 since I joined the Navy in 2003 and my 2 major complaints are being address with the new Sig MCX. I never liked the M4 charging handle and wanted a side charging option and I wanted the ability to send the bolt home with my right thumb.
Want a Sig Spear LT but it has the standard charging handle like the AR15. This alone is almost making me consider the CZ Bren 2.
Best regards from Germany 🙂 A very classic gun comparison. I like it!
thanks for the discussion
needed it for school
I was issued the BushMaster m16 A3 and never had any issues with mine. That's why I'm still a huge fan of the platform and own several.
I bought my full auto AR about 15 years ago, brand new Colt for 13K. Those two weapons he is shooting probably ran about 50-60K. They really are getting stupid expensive.
I feel like a DIAS with paperwork would be a better investment than an M-16 because then any AR, (from old and clapped out to the latest and greatest Gucci model) can be made to waste ammo at a bank breaking rate “legally”.
Great review. Both guns are great and equally necessary in all sorts of conditions.
Name one ?
@@atg1338 world war
@@metalc0readd1ct blah blah blah
Guns?
@@opiumtrail7032 25:23 specifically for you mo ron.
Yes, it is a fantastic video with two very iconic firearms 🔫😎. And lovin the carhartt Tee 🤙🏽
You into pro clubs?? I love them way more.. pro club t shirts are heavy weight cotton and comfy af to wear
I asked my hunting buddy this question. We are both getting long in tooth. He is retired career Marine with combat experience and was in Vietnam from the start the war . He thought about question, laughed and said it would be my M14 hands-down!
USMC 1985-1997. M-16A2. Loved it, very accurate
AK wasn’t actually based off the STG and has basically nothing in common with it mechanically. It instead was based off the M1 Garand (actually mentioned in Kalashnikov’s notes) and has clear influence from other American and Russian rifles, most notably the Remington Model 8. The only similarity the AK has to an STG is (maybe) it’s silhouette and the two of them can kinda fill the same role. The AR rifles however have a lot in common with the STG and even takedown similarly.
Ammo design...
@@dallesamllhals9161SMGs were the future which WW-1 old men didn't understand. Rifles today are basically carbine length shooting like SMG but added advantage of some range depending on ammo
@@destroyerarmor2846 SMG?? Really!? Veteran from the '00s...i might know a bit about that 😛 but thanks for the enlightenment... SMGs....tee-hee
Influenced from the stg in terms of an automatic, select fire rifle in an intermediate cartridge. But yeah its mechanically influenced by the garand
@@Myemnhk SVT = Garand?
I absolutely love that metal on metal clinking sound from the AK❤
I've seen super slo-mo footage of the AKM sporting the "spoon" muzzle compensator as on your example. The barrel, upon firing, actually was springing the barrel down with each shot, unless I was "seeing things", it was on "Gun Stories".
Like looking at both of guns in action. My heritage gave me a little experience with AK when i was young. Then, recently purchased my first M4. Both are very enjoyable at the range.
I'm so happy you guys are still making videos ❤️❤️
I had one out of the armory at Ft. Campbell (ca 1986) that had an XM-15 lower mated to an A1 upper. The lower had an almost blue patina.
I was enlisted with the Evansville, Indiana National Guard,1982-88. We were a Field Artillery Unit. I had my first summer camp at Ft Campbell, and we spent many of our weekend drills firing our 105mm Howitzers there too. The 101st is a great group of soldiers and I have much respect for them. I have alot of good memories from Campbell. Got most of my tattoos there. And me and my buddies walked the strip many a nights, hitting all the bars, lol. The "Seven Sisters" was probably my favorite.
That's true with the AR.
Once you have the manual of arms down in your mind it's just well thought out and intuitive. You feel when the bolt locks back on the last round.
That being said it has tight tolerances and there's no such thing as a firearm that never malfunctions and if you stove pipe or double feed an AR, sometimes it jambs up real hard.
I have a Suppressed Colt M4 and 3 Russian Made AK'S . When I decide to go to my local outdoor range (max 170yds),It's not the accuracy or the availability of ammo, or the weight that I think about . It's the cleaning afterwards that runs through my mind. 90 % of the time I will grab one of my AK's
Greetings from Missouri. I have both an AK and an AR. I enjoy firing the AK a little better, though the AR sights are much more accurate.
6:30- That was so sick. The fact that the camera muffled the over 800rpm fire rate and noise level made it cool.
Lol that laugh at the beginning of the video is golden 💪🏾💪🏾
Always a ground breaker, Hickok. Keep up the solid work, old timer!
I was playing GTA 3 the other day, and I was always curious about the comparison between the ak and the m16 in real life as they sound terrifying in the game. Now I know in real life, once again, a great video from hickok45 👍👍
Awesome game! But the M16 had crazy af speed lol! One of best and darkest GTAs!
Yeah, i wouldn’t rely on video games as the best sources of knowledge and information on firearms lol. Kind of like not relying on a game like fornite to teach you how to build a house or something. As far as gta goes, you would think the 5.56 m4/AR is a stronger, more powerful cartridge and firearm bc of how the game presents them since they make the AK a weaker rifle. And that’s is the complete opposite of the truth. The 5.56 cartridge doesn’t have S*** on 7.62. Plus the AK rifle itself, is the bigger beast
In FO4, I have to use mods to adjust the rate of fire for the handmade(AKS) and M4 mods because either they fire too fast or too slow compared to their real counterparts. Sound mods for them also add a neat immersion of realism.
But yeah, one can hear the difference, for example, in a Type56 cycling at a realistic 550 rpm vs 700 rpm. Getting the cycling rates right on any gun is just satisfying to listen to.
@@jakeh6980The 7.62 does indeed deliver more energy, but the 5.56 is better at piercing armor. Depending on the system you use them in, there's also the occasional unintended tumbling of the 7.62 bullet as it travels, making it easier for armor to resist, but devastating any unarmored targets getting hit with it.
They're different bullets that accomplish different tasks one better than the other, leaving the choice of which is better up to the user. I'm fond of the 7.62 for my jack rifle, altho I avoid surplus soviet ammo due to its corrosiveness. But it (well, used) to be cheap to get in bulk lolz.
My time in the Army from 89-96 my M16A2 was a good rifle but it did like to jam a lot. From 2007-2012 my M4’s didn’t jam as much but man these things got dirty fast.