StarCraft 1 PROTOSS vs StarCraft 2 TERRAN!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.พ. 2025
- More StarCraft Evolution! In this video I cast a game between Mini who plays with the Brood War Protoss units as he faces off against a StarCraft 2 Terran.
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Thanks a lot for looking at our mod! We're really excited that it's starting to blow up outside of Korea! We have just released a major balance and visual update in preparation for the upcoming GSL/ASL supermatch going on in Korea this coming Wednesday, and we have still a few more visual updates coming for that as well, so please stay tuned!
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(I also made the new psionic storm effects, so I'm glad you like them so much. New effects are on the way!)
Thank you for making it! I only ever played the campaigns of Starcraft so i doubt i'd use it, but i love watching it. :)
That's awesome. Really hope Lowko gets to cast some of those replays too 😆
@@ingrudmessenger1193 A campaign remake is also planned and in the works.
It has a lot of potential! You should consider trying to sell it to Blizzard (when its ready) for a Broodwar remastered 30 year anniversary edition😉 Good luck!!
@@caerei Cheers all around. Hahaha maybe you can make it so you can choose if you can take on missions with BW or SC2 units?
I know programming those can be a huge pain, but maybe it's possible? Good luck with all the future plans, regardless.
Should have built Dark Archon to steal "Thors" permanently. It would be hillarious to watch.
Other game he posted day or two ago , had some really nice archon n dark archon play
Dark Archons would definitely make the game easier. Maybe even steal an scv and make his own terran units like in the good old days. Haha
@@jommsnow finally
PT vs T
Should have made an entire army of dark archon and mind control every terran unit
Yeah I was gonna post a dark archon comment but yeh... a few of those would have turned those fights around big time, snag a couple thors or battlecruisers and use them to turn the tide. Hell even hijacking a few vikings to slam those BCs with
THIS IS UNREAL.
THIS WILL MAKE STARCRAFT COMPETITION UNBELIEVABLE. WELL DONE TO WHOMEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS.
What are you talking about..this mod is lazy af lol. :D
@@RichyRich2607 Read Around.
@@RichyRich2607Keep coping kid. The fact that Remastered has more players than SC2 despite being the clunkier game shows its longevity even without patches.
@@reishiki8682
That happened because Blizzard defunded Brood War Tournaments in order to force people to play Starcraft 2 tournaments. This backfired hard, and it’s one of the reasons why Koreans don’t like SC2 - out of spite.
Blizzard really can’t escape the mismanagement allegations can they
@@RichyRich2607 the only lazy thing here is your comment.
And your father too for not educating you, kiddo
imagine 2v2 where players in the same team play the same race but one plays sc1 version and 2nd plays sc2 version of the units (e.g. protos sc1 + protos sc2 vs. terran sc1 + terran sc2). that would be insane
i was thinking about how good a sc2/sc1 terran/terran army with mass bio and medivacs and science vessel+raven could be.. even thinking about how one player could focus on saving energy for mules instead of scans, and the resource trading system, defiler dark swarm probably wouldn't be as scary because of widow mines
That would be so cool
I love this. SC1 was one of the first games that captivated me. To the point where nearly 20 years later I still watch pro SC2 despite not playing. I remember spamming "show me the money" and cranking out units and being obsessed with Dark Archons as a kid.
Heck yeah bro. Same here. I loved making Dark Archons and then playing as all 3 races at once
damn hittin me with some nostalgia "show me the money" and "black sheep wall" was all i needed as a kid to be happy :D
@@protonruffy12 dont forget 'operation cwal'
Power Overwhelming
SAME
The modding community is hella insane and talented man!
isnt there already the classic skins at the marketplace in starcraft 2?
@@EnigmaGamer421you still have to do a bunch of copy and pasting. The hard part is balancing the mod, not creating it.
@@EnigmaGamer421 hi, dev here, only a few units and buildings have said skins (command centers, hatcheries, nexus, zealots, hydras, marines, and the workers), so the rest are created by us. We also had to fix and or recreate a few skins as they had some glaring issues with their materials, weight painting, anims, rigging or even the alignment of geometry.
@@Alevice Really awesome work so far! Will there be original BW art asset for Queen Nest, Defiler Mount, etc? The new sunken colony looks good!
Ok, whoever made this mod paid amazing attention to broodwar mechanics! Look at 17:25, when the carriers first attack the sensor tower, they send out interceptors one at a time. After that initial deployment, every other time they engage, they send them all out at the same time. This was a well known bug in broodwar!
This was because in SC1 if the carrier moves the interceptors don't get inside the carrier, you can even select them behind the carrier :D
I had to pause mid cast just to tell you that this is the coolest shitt ive seen in a Long Long time as a sc fan!
That's basically StarCraft 3. I love it! :)
The math checks out
If you really wanna see Starcraft 3, you should check out Cosmonarchy Broodwar
1 + 2 does = 3
I'd say it's more like StarCraft 1.5 xD
@@guest273 hahah u are right
5:35 terran:ahh
7:26 wow doesn't even make a scratch
He spells it more like Ah oh. So i assume its just Ow lol
And then he says it doesnt hurt lol
@@SaeWhat21No. 아오 means that yoi are annoyed. Like Ughhh
이말이 맞다@@kreg857
yeah i agree with original comment for the second chat. the tone is like "hehe that tickles"
This is so hype. Who knew all starcraft needed to regenerate that hype was... more starcraft
Protoss : high tech battleships
Terran : hehe yamato cannon
아오 is an interjection expressing a feeling of being annoyed, and a little nuance of regret.
When is it used alone, a little closer to annoyance only. And its collocation is 아오 아깝다(ahh, that was close. / Verbatim: Ah-oh, (it's -omited-) regrettable.)
+ The nickname 귀요미 means cutie. :D
I think this is a really nice mod, I'd love to see more games with it!
I can't wait to see more people get defiled and understand the pain. Looking forward to more matches with this mod!
Dark Swarm feels like its gonna be hell on earth in SC2. I want to see it!
Yes and no, DS was indeed very insane in SC1, but SC2 has much faster unit reaction time, and offensive spells to just mulch the slow defilers.
Man. Nice seeing Dragoons again. So long for me since I’ve played SC
I feel like the Cyclone was built to counter Snow's Reaver micro, his Reaver Shuttle micro makes the comp look broken. In last season's ASL he did about 2,000 minerals worth of damage against a Terran. By the way, the Barcode Terran would either be Cure or TY.
You feel like you consumed drugs and are talking about different games.
Cyclone is SC2
Reaver is BW
So no. Units in SC 2 were not built to counter units in SC1.
@@omuploii I know these things, but thanks to the mod you can test these things.
Reaver shuttle micro has always been broken, with no other counter but having troops in place beforehand.
Thanks for the video, Lowko. Bridging the modern and the past is such a cool concept. It’s awesome!
Spoilers ahead. Starcraft wins.
Lol
Maybe the real win is the units we made along the way
StarCraft and not Brood War? spoiled.
There is no cow level
"Oh come on! I try to listen free zerg!"
That corsair dealing minimal damage to the Raven hurts my soul. What kind of sick bastard made the Corsair damage explosive? (effective against large/armored/massive units, half damage against small/light units)
I mean, it *is* canonically supposed to be an anti-capital ship strike craft. It was the Scout that was supposed to fill the role of air-superiority for SC1 Protoss lmao.
@@LDSG_A_Team You have it backward. The Scout is the anti-capital strike craft, the Crosair is specifically made to kill groups of lightly armored target, IE: it's made to be a hard counter to mutalisks, like the valkyrie. The mutalisk having no counter in SC1 without broodwar meant that both the dragoon and the goliath got a range upgrade and both Terran and Protoss got an anti light air specialist.
It was a "Normal" type damage from BW which means they deal 100% damage on all unit types so they're the ideal counter against basic flyers with no base armor like Mutalisks. IDK how Mutalisks are tagged in SC2 but if they're still the same "small" type unit and receive less damage from "explosive" type then somebody from the balance team of the mod surely knows what's up. Balance issues, maybe?
@@arahelis2038 do I? Darn. I guess it's been too long since I've played SC1. My bad
@@abunja
Corsairs deal explosive damage in Brood War and always have, not normal. Check the wikis, they all say explosive. Which is odd because they’re supposed to specialize against mutas like you said… but for some reason Blizzard thought it fit to halve the damage against the units they’re supposed to be effective against? It’s the same case for Valkyries: Specialized against small grouped air… explosive attacks.
And yes, all SC2 units labeled Light are considered “small” in SC1 vs SC2, while Armored and Massive are considered Large.
in Starcraft 1, PvT is considered the most solved matchup, where if you try to go for an unusual comp, there will be obvious ways to punish that. So, as an SC1 fan, seeing it go up against the SC2 Terran is really a breath of fresh air.
The fact blizzard haven't thought or done this sooner is astounding this is awesome
This has me GIDDY. I haven't played much Starcraft in recent years but this might have me coming back.
dude this video just made me smile man. so much fun and see all the memory from all these years flashing back
I've been almost exclusively playing this mod whenever I log on to SC2 these days. So much fun. Love the casts
What's the name of the mod, and is it in custom melee?
@@joshuaher8386 yeah its in custom melee, and its called something like EVO Complete
When this mods sorts out the balancing issues, I really really hope we get some premier tournaments on this mod. It's so much fun
I can tell you. once it is balance it wont be fun to watch anymore.
@@ButterButNotCookies that's your opinion 👍
This game mode is so fun to watch at this level! Thanks so much for showing these! Keep them coming!
Lowko, my young padawan.
In Broodwar, mech is the only choice for Terran vs Protoss
I think this is the best of both worlds: all variety from SC: BW but with the engine of SC2, and essentially two distinct ways to play each race. Would really like to see more of this!
That scv charging in 24:40 I feel him screaming "VENGEANCE FOR MY BROTHERS!" at the Templar.
Thank you Lowko for uploading one of my first game in my childhood before Starcraft 2 was even released, reminds me of my father and my godparents competing when they were in college. Looking forward for more clash of 2 versions of starcraft series
It's frustrating to watch someone with the power of Arbiters not use them to their full potential. It's easy enough to station 2 at different attack points on the map, and then 1 back home. Recall the carrier group to attack point A, wait for Terran army to show up; Recall to attack point B, smash it while the Terran army marches over; then Recall everyone back home. If you do it right, you have just shield damage, and are ready to fight against a bruised Terran with less infrastructure.
You know I starts to enjoy lowko casting this mod i hope lowko could do a video like this
I love this SC1 vs SC2 thing. This is so much fun to me.
I think my favorite part of this mod is their SC1 Siege Tank model. There are other models out there that pretend to represent the SC1 Arclite Siege Tank, but this is the first one I've seen that actually _LOOKS_ like the SC1 Tank.
I will say, it's not surprising it took so long for the Corsair to kill the Raven. Corsairs single target damage has always been utterly pitiful - 5 Explosive damage a shot, very high attack speed. Their strength is the fact that their damage is AoE Splash damage around the target. Despite their attacks only doing 2.5 damage a shot to Mutalisks _before_ armor, the simple fact of their splash allows groups of Corsairs to absolutely shred groups of mutalisks.
Corsairs normal attack no?
@@setaverse Nope, Corsairs have always done Explosive damage, surprisingly enough. It's very easy to assume otherwise with how they shred Mutalisks. It doesn't feel like the math adds up, does it?
@@Blazieth wow I've been living a lie for over 10 years lolz
feels like a planned spar to test units, i need to see the full potential
Its fun to see mods outside of the normal games, breaks it up and keeps it interesting.
I would adore to see more of this mod. Breaks up the usual stuff well and feels so much richer to have variant factions!
These SC1 vs SC2 mod are great. I don't know much about balancing a game but if they can, it would be awesome to see more.
A great match between those SC2 Terrans and the BW Proodles. Should be neat seeing other matchups like that, SC1 units in SC2 battles.
This was a fun one to watch! Would definitely be excited to see more.
One thought on thumbnails: Perhaps instead of showing an old skin for a unit in both games (Carrier), have your thumbnail show one unit exclusive to each game? E.g. Reaver vs Cyclone, Guardian vs Tempest, Goliath vs Ravager
This is the best content game content in years. Please more.
Thanks for lowko for all the madness of all your channelss. God Bless.
Just for clarification : dragoons aren't really between stalkers and immortals. They are very, very similar to stalkers in term of damage (with 2 more damage against armored and 3 less against light) and life (20HP differences on the base 160 of the stalker) while giving up blink.
I'm genuinely surprised that the terran won. Given the insane amount of damage that Mini was able to do with the reaver's improved pathing on workers, that was genuinely impressive from the barcode.
Yes! was hoping to see Zerg SC1 but, whatever, thanks Lowko!
ooh, a veteran SC1 player, *this'll be good*
we should definitely have the #1 SC1 player go up against Serral when he comes back from the military, or have SC1 and SC2 teams to face off against one another that Lowko should try and create...lol
I love everything about this. More of it please! Also with the other races :)
Would be cool to see a mod where you can build every single unit and building ever, imagine combining old and new units, that would be wild!
That broodwar storm animation slaps!
It looks great, but doesn’t seem to hit as large of an area as in BW
I'm loving this mod videos, I actually hope we get to see tournaments using this mod.
I usually only comment on SC2 stuff when Serral paints art with APM but this is just awesome!
Can’t wait to see Flash play this mod with the SC1 Terran which he was famously GOATed for
cant get enough of these matches
I guess it needs some massive gameplay to adjust balance and all that... But yeah, this is just perfect. This can even make mirror matches interesting, Lowko. xD I'm just jumping from you to winter, to pig.. To see if there are new games to watch. This is like adding red and blue to chess. -a new game, but still the same. Totally love it.
I wanna see all possible match ups including new Protss vs Old Protoss etc. :D
Imagine a Starcraft where each race has two further options you can play as: v1 or v2. This mod definitely has an awesome concept
I hope we can see some Brood War Zerg and Terran fighting modern opponents as well. So far both matches have been old Protoss vs new races.
Man this mod is awesome. Please cast even more of it.
I like how the Protoss nexus looks like the SC1 version. I would like to see the rest of their structures look like their classic versions too eventually.
I like watching all the videoed you upload because of your positivity and passion for a game I love too.
Big fan of casting different mods. Keeps things fresh!
Would love more of these Lowko, this is so fun!
This looks amazing, would love to see tou cast more matches Lowko!
Cast more of this. It is really cool.
now this is an original idea...fresh champ!
I hope that the mod is done so well that they end up just making it part of StarCraft 2. Might require some balance adjustments, but imagine merging all the pros from SC1 and SC2. It would be a whole new world of SC competition and breathe a lot of new life into the game.
I'm a little obsessed with the dragoon's walknig animation. Someone give that artist 10 bonuses!
this is it, pretty awesome, hope we get more :D
I want to see more StarCraft Evolution matches!
Reavers are confused when they got dropped from the Shuttle.
I think we will finally would like to see and enjoy for TvT games in this mode (I really would like to see SC! terran) Thank you for bringing this mode
Cast more of these. So Nice! Tks
These are great! So much fun seeing starcraft 1 fight 2
I always wanted to see how SC1 units fare against SC2 units. I always thought they should do what SINS of a Solar Empire did and split the 3 factions into Rebels (SC1) and Loyalists (SC2).
Terran Raiders (TR) Terran Dominion (TD)
Zerg Overmind (ZO) Zerg Queen (ZQ)
Protos Khala (PK) Protos Scion (PS)
Would like to see Brood War Zerg in action against SC2 Terran or Protoss air units.
I think this video does a good job showing the major difference in balancing philosophy that sc1 has compared to 2. SC1/brood war definitely has alot of op spells, but sc2 just has better raw damage output on units. Watching those carriers slowly wittle down buildings while the terran just mows down everything is funny.
What a cool game mode man. I just love it
Definitely want to see more of this mod. Something new for a change.
I've been looking forward to you to cast a game of these. Now I'd like to watch a game of z1vz2 with both using Queens, yeah queen wars
Amazing game, great casting, looking forward to Goliaths now even more.
-spoilers-
Am I crazy or does anyone else agree? Wouldn't a tech switch to Scouts for the battlecruiser's with the 3/3 Air Upgrades and/or Dark Archons for them and the mass Thors been a better play?
Especially after the deep strike which, in my humble opinion, should've been done with a distraction for the army and probes for pylons and batteries when the Arbiters warped in the army to the main base.
As always if you read till here, I hope you're having a great day.😎👍
Can't wait for the LameDragoon + DisruptionWeb + ArbiterRecall as in the "kill it" SC/BW cinematic :)
i want a Broodwar Protoss against starcraft 2 Zerg where both just goof around building each others tech by stealing workers
Mech Terran in SC1 is basically the norm in TvP and TvT, bio is only seen as viable in extended games vs Zerg where there isn't a ton of straight up ground vs ground shooting fights, otherwise Marines are too squishy without combat shields. There's high-level games where it's been played in each matchup but chiefly as a timing attack
Like for the intro until Lowko gives in and goes back to using it every time!
MORE !
The thought of Gumiho playing this mod excites the hell out of me.
The terran is Gumiho
This mod is something I never knew I needed in life.
Definitely would like to see some more of these.
the corsair can be upgraded and perma-cloaked, so it could be useful in numbers against an air terran
No, that's a co-op thing. Can't cloak the BW corsairs (terran have scan anyway so it wouldn't matter even if)
merge brood war and SC2 unit togather in all out war seem like fun.
I believe Grant played SC1 using the SC2 engine and yes, zerglings were devastating with good pathing and larger control groups.
Do more of this lowko this was so much fun
You should cast more of these!
29:35 Ghost EMP, Interference Matrix, forward Vikings sniping the Arbiters ect.
I love Dragoons. They're literally just photon cannons with legs that can take unit upgrades. So good
yeah but they cost gas and need supply
@@cyberkekosis true that.
Brood war units were so sick
Oh wow, storm looks amazing!!
Simple mathematics. To get StarCraft 3, you need to take StarCraft 1 and add StarCraft 2 to it.
more cast of this please
Haven't watched any starcraft in a long time and suddenly got this recommended, what a blast
actually I lied now that I think of it cause I'm still watching GiantGrantGames' weird single player stuff occasionally