very mixed feelings about this. Gear sets and Exotics have good balancing Brands - mostly idiotic balancing Weapons - many guns got damage nerfs after they got buffed during project resolve. What was the point then? New seasons - interesting, but need more information Fucking hell, I'll need to redo all my goddamn builds
I think I might just wait until the actual live update comes so I don't have to do the maths twice. But I also don't want to miss out on the opportunity to do maths... #dilemma
I'm hoping the 5 sec on Obliterate is a typo, since the before version is also listed as 5 instead of the 10 it actually is. Anyway, i feel like a lot of the buffs are offset by the nerfs so they just pointlessly shuffled numbers around without actually improving anything. I think what we need is functional improvements to the things we can use rather than numerical. Sure, bigger numbers are nice but a lot of things aren't used because of the way they work. Making Rifles auto-fire is a good example.
Me too, 10 seconds can give a lot more uptime. Definitely the weapon resuffling feels very confusing - hard to see why exactly they touched almost every single weapon. Interesting point - what is something that got bigger numbers but actually needs a functional improvement?
@@d15p4tch6 Changing rifles to auto-fire was a good move, they should do it for all guns. Making us able to select all weapons in Specializations and/or separating spec mods, faster rocket launcher for technician. Faster grenades. Adding stagger to our melee attacks. Reworking some skills like burster firefly and bombardier drone. Letting us put perfect talents on whatever we want and modify all stats. List goes on. So even though I enjoy a good buff, If I had to choose, i'd pick mechanical/QoL improvements and bugfixes.
Mostly agree with your takes here. Just the changes to the base weapons and brands seem kinds pointless given what recently changed in tu20. Not sure what the driving force was, but it seems like it was done by a person who likes spreadsheets and doesn't have much experience with how the game plays. But that's a reoccurring theme with a lot of the gear lately. Why is crap like reassigned untouched (again)?
Reassigned lol I guess maybe theyve got some secret statistics that's telling them it's widely used.... XD It seems like, with buffing the 3rd attributes on some, they're trying to encourage us to spec into 3 pieces. But the bonuses are so random (golan status effects, hello?) that it feels bad and still isn't good enough by a long shot.
🫡 Sup, I like the changes overall. I'm an all day solo PVE guy who runs Glass Cannon. I will now use Umbra as well. My Chameleon is huge now. Those 3 buffs are incredible and 45 sec with reset will have it now easily atop All the A/R. Thankfully ppl will still ignore it 👍
Crit damage same as Crit Chance mods ??? i couldnt see the Chance mods on list but theyre 5% now so are they getting increased too?? . so first we had Resolve , which ironically resolved nothing then the Seasonal character idea F*** up AKA project Dissolve as the playerbase vanished guessing this must be Project Reverse then so why change things and go through the pain of numerous self inflicted game breaking bugs and downtime and payer resentment . the only reason for this continual pointless tinkering is to keep the devs employed or for certain youtubers to explode into a fountainous mass of verbal Diarrhoea . or is it ??? this could be a veiled attempt at Seasonal characters by the back door every 4-5months they change gear/weapons /talents requiring another onorous grind just as you would have got via Seasonals so whilst grinding changing/adjusting builds players will have weaker builds until they eventually align with new balancing/metas . why the attack on DPS builds /brands again no nerf to the likes of Eclipse what about forgotten builds like true patriot no rework vs striker and Ongoing on 4th and 3rd reworks . what happened to the devs statement the game is too complicated for new players does changing it every 5 months improve that i doubt it. more gear /exotics who needs more ??? when existing epecially recent are Garbage and just bloat game, rework or remove before new items itroduced as still nowhere to put them ,why do we need 3 named magnums ?? whos going to run up 4 level 40's fill up with all resources an optimization materials to spend them on Aegis and rugged gloves an mosquito when no place in game for this trash and thats not withstanding the bugfest this round of changes will bring
@@scooternut7198 just talking about *weapon* mods: CHC minors gave 1/2 as much as CHD minors (6/12) but CHC mods gave just as much as CHD (5/5). PTS put the CHD mods on the same efficiency as CHC mods. "Project Dissolve" ROFL Honestly, there have been so many changes, I'm finding it hard to track and decipher. However, you shouldn't have to re-grind for gear IMO - maybe your Ceska isn't good anymore, but you should have other good brand sets to put in its place. Idk about you, but I have one of every weapon in the game (except pistols cuz they suck) and pretty much one of every gear/brand set for almost every slot, so getting a new build together shouldn't be hard. The exceptions to this being that I don't have Aegis or rigger etc lol I think overall they did a halfway decent job of balancing some things that were close, but left a lot of severely underpowered sets alone- maybe because they didn't have the mental capacity to completely rework them.
@@d15p4tch6 ohh brother. Red striker was the only build that you can use anywhere. I bet you are a coffee skill build player…im not even borther myself to explain logics and mathematics, mechanices about a Run and Gun game. So you are still dillusional, end of strory.
@@d15p4tch6 still amazes me that perfect works as intended. But not normal. But brazen works the same. Oh well. At least we can spend time putting together the next best build and adapt. Just wish I could get exotics back for weapons and sets I won’t use
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very mixed feelings about this.
Gear sets and Exotics have good balancing
Brands - mostly idiotic balancing
Weapons - many guns got damage nerfs after they got buffed during project resolve. What was the point then?
New seasons - interesting, but need more information
Fucking hell, I'll need to redo all my goddamn builds
@@D4RT-one you totally summed it up! Man, this video could've been under a minute ...
Your Striker comments made me LOL.
THANK YOU for bringing attention to the Ouroboros talent too, tired of exotics just being dps and not actually doing anything unique
I know, right?! You get it!
tbh these are actually decent changes to the game right here!
@@AhnoldRunningMan most of them, I think!
Gonna be a lot of math coming up.. we got our work cut out for us ;)
I think I might just wait until the actual live update comes so I don't have to do the maths twice. But I also don't want to miss out on the opportunity to do maths...
#dilemma
I'm hoping the 5 sec on Obliterate is a typo, since the before version is also listed as 5 instead of the 10 it actually is.
Anyway, i feel like a lot of the buffs are offset by the nerfs so they just pointlessly shuffled numbers around without actually improving anything.
I think what we need is functional improvements to the things we can use rather than numerical. Sure, bigger numbers are nice but a lot of things aren't used because of the way they work. Making Rifles auto-fire is a good example.
Me too, 10 seconds can give a lot more uptime.
Definitely the weapon resuffling feels very confusing - hard to see why exactly they touched almost every single weapon.
Interesting point - what is something that got bigger numbers but actually needs a functional improvement?
@@d15p4tch6 Changing rifles to auto-fire was a good move, they should do it for all guns. Making us able to select all weapons in Specializations and/or separating spec mods, faster rocket launcher for technician. Faster grenades. Adding stagger to our melee attacks. Reworking some skills like burster firefly and bombardier drone. Letting us put perfect talents on whatever we want and modify all stats. List goes on.
So even though I enjoy a good buff, If I had to choose, i'd pick mechanical/QoL improvements and bugfixes.
@@martinmiller3765 based. Love it
Mostly agree with your takes here.
Just the changes to the base weapons and brands seem kinds pointless given what recently changed in tu20.
Not sure what the driving force was, but it seems like it was done by a person who likes spreadsheets and doesn't have much experience with how the game plays.
But that's a reoccurring theme with a lot of the gear lately.
Why is crap like reassigned untouched (again)?
Reassigned lol I guess maybe theyve got some secret statistics that's telling them it's widely used.... XD
It seems like, with buffing the 3rd attributes on some, they're trying to encourage us to spec into 3 pieces. But the bonuses are so random (golan status effects, hello?) that it feels bad and still isn't good enough by a long shot.
🫡 Sup, I like the changes overall. I'm an all day solo PVE guy who runs Glass Cannon. I will now use Umbra as well. My Chameleon is huge now. Those 3 buffs are incredible and 45 sec with reset will have it now easily atop All the A/R. Thankfully ppl will still ignore it 👍
@@bigjay52 umbra is going to get you those stacks real fast!
I was always a huge fan of mechanics behind umbra gear set
🫡
Crit damage same as Crit Chance mods ??? i couldnt see the Chance mods on list but theyre 5% now so are they getting increased too?? .
so first we had Resolve , which ironically resolved nothing then the Seasonal character idea F*** up AKA project Dissolve as the playerbase vanished guessing this must be Project Reverse then so why change things and go through the pain of numerous self inflicted game breaking bugs and downtime and payer resentment .
the only reason for this continual pointless tinkering is to keep the devs employed or for certain youtubers to explode into a fountainous mass of verbal Diarrhoea .
or is it ???
this could be a veiled attempt at Seasonal characters by the back door every 4-5months they change gear/weapons /talents requiring another onorous grind just as you would have got via Seasonals so whilst grinding changing/adjusting builds players will have weaker builds until they eventually align with new balancing/metas .
why the attack on DPS builds /brands again no nerf to the likes of Eclipse what about forgotten builds like true patriot no rework vs striker and Ongoing on 4th and 3rd reworks .
what happened to the devs statement the game is too complicated for new players does changing it every 5 months improve that i doubt it.
more gear /exotics who needs more ??? when existing epecially recent are Garbage and just bloat game, rework or remove before new items itroduced as still nowhere to put them ,why do we need 3 named magnums ?? whos going to run up 4 level 40's fill up with all resources an optimization materials to spend them on Aegis and rugged gloves an mosquito when no place in game for this trash
and thats not withstanding the bugfest this round of changes will bring
@@scooternut7198 just talking about *weapon* mods: CHC minors gave 1/2 as much as CHD minors (6/12) but CHC mods gave just as much as CHD (5/5). PTS put the CHD mods on the same efficiency as CHC mods.
"Project Dissolve" ROFL
Honestly, there have been so many changes, I'm finding it hard to track and decipher. However, you shouldn't have to re-grind for gear IMO - maybe your Ceska isn't good anymore, but you should have other good brand sets to put in its place. Idk about you, but I have one of every weapon in the game (except pistols cuz they suck) and pretty much one of every gear/brand set for almost every slot, so getting a new build together shouldn't be hard. The exceptions to this being that I don't have Aegis or rigger etc lol
I think overall they did a halfway decent job of balancing some things that were close, but left a lot of severely underpowered sets alone- maybe because they didn't have the mental capacity to completely rework them.
They killed this game
@@goontubefilmz who is they
@@d15p4tch6 people and devs
Striker nerf thank god? You are dilussional my friend
@@leventedobay2696 yeah, I totally agree - they didn't go far enough! More striker nerfs!
@@d15p4tch6 seriously, would like to see them bring the 2% per missed shot stack penalty from division 1’s striker set to this game as the next step
@@jwaltonyoung interesting idea! 🤔
@@d15p4tch6 ohh brother. Red striker was the only build that you can use anywhere. I bet you are a coffee skill build player…im not even borther myself to explain logics and mathematics, mechanices about a Run and Gun game. So you are still dillusional, end of strory.
@@jwaltonyoung still hits hard with that…that the genious about striker.
Welp. Dz is about to die with rifles having determined. lol auto determined. lol 😂
@@lElitePanda determined needs a nerf too! 😈
@@d15p4tch6 still amazes me that perfect works as intended. But not normal. But brazen works the same. Oh well. At least we can spend time putting together the next best build and adapt. Just wish I could get exotics back for weapons and sets I won’t use
Meh pvp can suck a bug