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Zootopia’s deleted polar bear shock collar initiation party. At one point during the making of the film the APEX predators were given shock collars to keep them in check and there was a scene whe there is said shock collar initiation party where a polar bear cub gets it’s own shock collar and I gets slightly too excited and he gets shocked and you see the joy completely disappear from his face ending with both the father and the cub look at each so sadly. I mean could you imagine how horrible that situation would’ve been the cub learns that this is his life now and the father is having to watch and practically just accept that it’s now his son’s life now too.
if im being honest i love this scene and personally wish Disney had gone for the OG plot or other studios would do an idea like that as the idea of what could be done with predators being forced to wear a shock collar can be a really compelling story if done right
@@antifagoat6591 a different version of the same movie so technically it would count. The whole shock collar aspect was still in the story way past the storyboard stage and was still in development during the animatic phase and even the early stages of the animation stage.
zira was my favorite disney villain as a kid even though it was a sequel, i loved her so much. and little me was a morbid fuck so i absolutely wouldve gotten a massive kick outta that. thank you for bringing this to my attention
If you see the animatic for Snug's death, you can see that the kids accompanied Helen, which doesn't make sense cuz she knows this mission to save Bob is dangerous and she wouldn't put her kids in danger on purpose, so the scene we got makes more sense as to why the kids came to save Bob, it was because they snuck in
I know Scar’s original death in “The Lion King” was a lot more grizzly. He was originally planned to defeat Simba by throwing him off the ledge of Pride Rock, laughing maniacally as the flames of the wildfire consumed him. While gruesome, I’m kinda glad they went with the more satisfactory ending in the final version. I recall there being a particularly dark deleted scene in “Mulan” where, during the Huns’ invasion of that one mountain village, one of the soldiers takes pity for a pet bird trapped in a burning building and rescues it. Shan Yu is aware of this selfless act of disobedience and tells him to release it, only for his falcon to kill the bird before he brutally stabs the solider through the chest with his sword, declaring to his army that there is no tolerance for weakness. I can see why this was a little too much. Though probably the most dark scene that was removed from a Disney animated film was probably the original version of Bambi’s mother’s death. In the final film, we never see her death onscreen, but the original had her slowly limp along and eventually succumb to her fatal wound, collapsing to the ground as the snow around her body turned red and Bambi begs her to get back up. If this sounds at all familiar to you, that’s because Don Bluth lifted this same exact scene for Littlefoot’s mother in “The Land Before Time” - albeit toning down the blood. That wasn’t the only dark scene that was deleted in “Bambi”, however. One other scene had the unseen hunter actually die, with the grown up Bambi stumbling across his charred remains, having perished to the flames of the forest fire he inadvertently created. This was a scene lifted from the original novel, where Bambi makes the realization that mankind wasn’t a god like the hound dog claimed, but a mortal creature just like everyone else.
Tbh Scar getting mauled to death by the hyenas in the final cut is alot more gruesome once you find out how irl hyenas hunt....let's just say Scar's death was NOT quick....
Another thing about the Mulan deleted scene was towards the end, Shan Yu and the Falcon were somehow spiritually connected as both their eyes glow yellow when they made eye contact and how Yu found out about the soldier’s disobedience
Definitely could of keep the stitch slaps fish scene. Just make it where stitch slaps it into the water and it swims away. Leela still gets pissed and says you don't hurt family
There are 2 deleted scenes that pop into my mind: 1. The original opening for The Incredibles where Syndrome was a minor villain 2. A scene where McQueen in his state of panic looking for Mac, crashes and happens upon a corpse before driving away
I loved combing over all the bonus features on my DVDs when I was a kid, and that led me to discovering the Cars deleted scenes as a wee child. I was not okay. While the body swap scene unnerved me, the junkyard scene scared the absolute daylights out of me. The mangled cars with their vague faces, the sound effects, how alone Lightning was. It was awful. If you do a follow up to this video, I'd definitely recommend talking about the junkyard scene!
There's a lot of fantastic moments cut from Lilo and Stitch that speak to the character's identities. Like how Lilo is commodified in her own homeland, hence why she hates tourists. Like there's a deleted clip where she outright says all tourists should die
There is a deleted scene from Bolt where he and Mittens end up in Las Vegas and at one point he gets attacked and injured by a group of strays in an alleyway, therefore at that moment he has the realization that he really doesn't have superpowers.
I dunno if it counts as a dark scene, but it is messed up in its racial implications. There's a deleted scene in Lilo and Stich that made it to rough pencil animation where we are shown how Lilo is treated by the white tourists on a daily basis, some treating her as just another Hawaiian attraction for being a "real native". She's shown going to the beach right before a tsunami siren test, telling the tourists she's calling for a giant tsunami to come after them and to "prepare to die." The tourists hear the siren, they panic, and Stitch laughs at the situation. It's just a great scene that exemplifies Lilo as an outsider not just among her peers but on her own land by the tourists. It's likely why she takes pictures of them, because of how tourists would take pictures of her. It's also a bonding moment with Stitch as he sees her create chaos for her own amusement and to retaliate against the tourists.
I get the feeling the Pudge scene was taken out because even though Stitch starts the story as a villain and he would've had that moment of realization afterwards, it runs the risk of taking Stitch beyond a moral event horizon. Stitch laughing as Lilo tries in vain not to let her beloved fish get pecked to death might have a chance of making Stitch too unlikable.
For me the darkest Disney deleted scene was the flesh melting scene from The Black Cauldron, when the undead army literally reduce a poor man to a gory mass of flesh and bones. If that scene has remained intact, then we would’ve had Disney’s first R-rated movie. Tbh I kinda wanna see that.
Steele's original death in Balto featured him receiving the gold collar, only to suffer an accident where he was hanged by it... and if that wasn't enough, he was hanged on a lever that opened a mineshaft, which he proceeded to fall down after slipping out of the collar.
There's one deleted scene from "The Lion King" that would fit disturbing. Scar tries to "persuade" Nala to be his Queen. I don't think I have to explain on "persuade".
The body horror in cars when McQueen runs into a graveyard when trying to find his way back to the interstate only to crash into a yard of dead cars that are decaying. He ends up driving and getting tangled in parts and wire only to pull a jaw off a dead car and the metal to screech and McQueen to dash out of there. Like wtf was up lol so much body horror. What disturbs me the most is if you imagine this as people it would be the equivalent to stumbling into corpses decomposing in the ground and hanging from trees to be panicking and running out of there to get entangled in their body and feel and see the horrific display of death consuming the once was person with a soul and a life only to be forgotten and rotting. Just chilling you should totally watch it
That secret files scene has always haunted me and you can't tell me it's an irrational fear to be scared of the deleted scene, cause it's a possible reality. I think the black and white storyboard visuals and the facial expressions of the president seals the deal for the (for lack of a better word) horror of the scene.
I think the Cars deleted scene was intended to be played off as funny. But then cut because it was too weird. The reason why I say this is because of another movie the staff worked on, The Brave Little Toaster. There is a scene in that film where all of the characters (who are talking furniture by the way) walk into a part shop and it is framed like a horror movie like you see the shadows of a man tearing everything up with a screwdriver and oil dripping like blood. After the chilling and disturbing sequence they immediately cut to a musical number, making fun of horror movies in the fifties. That and there were a lot of scenes that had Lightning McQueen with weird/comedic dreams such as the one where the cow wins the race
I think that deleted Wall-E scene should’ve made it, even if it had to be tweaked. Having that recording be Auto’s motivation to keep the humans in space indefinitely would’ve made him a lot more interesting. BnL not being able to clean it up initially already happens anyway, considering their robots all rust away besides one, so I don’t think showing the initiative being unable to catch up with the damage they caused in the projected time really “ruins” anything about the film considering the earth is eventually able to be saved.
I disagree, while you are correct that BnL was not being able to 'put the toothpaste back in the tube' and that still works for the film, but the scene still would have ruined Auto's character and the movie's message. Auto's control comes from complacency, not fear. If we lived in a alternate universe where green tech was dangerous and that's why we weren't using it. Then yes, Auto being motivated by fear would make sense. But in reality we don't use green tech because we're lazy and that laziness is what empowers Auto. So yeah, it would ruin the message a little. I'll go further and add that Auto's motivation in the final cut is instead an impersonal "Must follow my directive". He's almost the embodiment of the corporate profit motive. Corporations are not good or evil, rather they're soulless entities that just need to make profit, and like Auto, keep humanity captured in a capitalist paradise. And both corporations and Auto are incapable to saving the planet if it goes against their core directive.
Interesting to see like the lorax biggering song where it absolutely changes the entire film with just one scene. Stitch one I can see still work with a random fish not the family fish to give stich some wiggle room to grow. Snug yeah would have been very dark but not seeing the body and changing it to dash immediately using his speed power to leave with the group could have left that possible end ambiguous for audiences. Wall e should have been there it was really good. Cars would have been a plot hole but honestly I can see it as a Halloween special
So you mean to say that Wall-E should traumatize a generation, blackmailing children to stop the pollution, plus how will humanity return to Earth if there is no way for them to survive. That moment would completely ruin Wall-E.
I watched an interview where Brad Bird himself said the reason why they decided to scrap the scene was because removing Snug and having Helen as the pilot would make it more like she’s in control of the plane and the fate of her own family.
When I saw Auto's original design it actually reminded me of that one little robot in the final movie that is like auto's assistant except without arms and the head being it's entire small body. I watched the movie a lot especially as a kid but I never payed attention to what it's name was
Bro, please do a sequel to this if you can! Some possible scenes (some of which are taken from other comments!)- Zira’s original death in The Lion King 2 Scar trying to seduce Nala (this happens in the musical, but it was also originally going to happen in the movie as well) The Zootopia shock-collar scenes with the polar bear The Black Friday Cut of Toy Story! Not as disturbing as some others but still interesting and darker
If they had made the film with the scene in mind in wall-e they could’ve had it be a twist for kids. The company lied about the clean up effort and our hero Wall-E is exposing them for the greedy company they are. Like maybe another character finds proof the final transmission was all faked.
Pudge dying just doesn't work for what he symbolizes which is already she forgot to feed him and her parents died. Stitch killing him falls flat as needless cruelty. Now Zira's death and Bambi's Mom's death are interesting because they added stakes and nightmare material.
I know I'm pretty late to the comments, but I wanted to mention that I actually saw that cars deleted scene when I was a kid accidentally, and it scared the absolute crap out of me. Before that, I was always keen to watching behind the scenes content on DVDs, but this scene scared me so much that I never had the interest of watching that stuff again. It was the first and only deleted scene I saw from that DVD, so I never saw the deleted graveyard scene thankfully.
Incredibles and wall e could have given so much more to the story overall. I mean we saw so many heroes already lose their lives showing what lengths syndrome goes to. Wall e should be there as the entire story was about pollution. Why not put a little fear in the people watching on this ending up a future to those who inherit the earth
they honestly shoulda just done both. keep the final film's politician version while also throwing in the original storyboard version but from the perspective of a news reporter not associated with b&l instead, better drive how hellish the place became because of b&l's ignorance and corruption.
The Wall-E deleted scene was way too disturbing even for an adult. Plus it would create a problem on how humanity will return when there's no way for them to survive. If the captain was there he would be on Auto's side.
@@theepic1944 so humans just keep polluting without this warning? Yeah that'd definitely help overall. Like the lorax removing the biggering song and putting into words why and how people can turn greedy. Sorry but wall e could have told a message now before it's too late but once again executives are scared of being pointed to
what he said about the Cars Body Horror,with the whole 'running in water thing' is probably a little inspiration for this scene,because steam rollers aren't very fast,ESPECIALLY compared to a race car.
I am so glad those disturbing delayed scenes did not make it in, they would've traumatized me and a lot of other people as kids. I remember when I was a kid and owned the DVD version of Cars, I saw the deleted scenes with the graveyard and body horror, but I was completely unfazed when my kid self watched them. Looking back, they were very disturbing and I'm glad they did not make it in the final cut. The concept of the deleted graveyard scene from Cars was later used in a Cars short titled The Radiator Springs 500 1/2. The premise of the short is that the residents of Radiator Springs were celebrating their town's founder, but then four racers known as the Badja Pros come in and challenge Lightning McQueen to a race. During the final part of the race, McQueen and the Badja Pros find themselves in the Enchanted Forest at night, which became a graveyard filled with old car corpses, and the racers get the scare of a lifetime. They do manage to escape and return to Radiator Springs.
Honestly man when you started with that first Lilo and Stitch scene I really thought he was gonna just straight up eat the fish when Lilo showed it to him.
Pinocchio had a deleted scene where Geppetto and Figaro are in Montro and originally instead of simply not being able to catch anything they were trying to figure out what to do for good and to the point they begin to wonder about eating Cleo since they are starving. They both had very creepy expressions like as if enjoying the idea but Geppetto snaps back to his senses and what not and apologizes for scaring Cleo. I mean I am not too sure if I think it should be in the movie or not but I can understand why. Walt probably thought the scene was way too dark and disturbing since well it gives of the idea of someone being so hungry to the point where they are almost willing at eating their own pet which is a part of their family. I had no idea about it until I saw a video talking about dark deleted scenes from Disney movies. years ago. It was pretty shocking I am not going to lie about that.
For years i never thought i would find that Cars scene i saw as a kid, but here there is, that video as a kid scared me so much that i never saw that again until now, as i kid i didn’t understand why it scared me so much, now i do…
Wall-E's deleted scene is just a silly reference to a Star Trek episode that didn't made sense on the long run because the final movie doesn't have William Shatner as the president. The "I wanna live!" line is an infamous dialogue from a Star Trek TOS episode in which Captain Kirk gets seprated into two versions of himself, one more sensible and one more agressive. As all great Star Trek episodes do, they explore the moral dilema of the independant existance of these two beings, and by the end of the episode it is decided to join them to form the real Captain Kirk again, to the absolute horror of the evil Kirk who (regardless of being an ass) is still a living being who wants to live as an independant being. The line was memed to death back in the day and during old-school internet too. The storyboards in Wall-E use William Shatner's likeness as a constant standin for the president, and they even did somewhat of an impersonation of him for those scenes. So it's very posible to assume they wanted Shatner for that small role. The line is also treated as a reference, as it doesn't draw that much attention to itself. Maybe executives thought it came across as too dark regardless of it being a silly referece, maybe it was just a stand-in for the development process (because the artists were big nerds of ST) and it was never meant to be final, or maybe none. I'm just impressed that absolutely none of the people I've seen covering these animated storyboards has ever catched the reference.
Other deleted or lost scenes would be: Cars: Lightning McQueen coming across a graveyard of rusty cars while lost. Partly was reused for The Radiator Springs 500 1/2. Cars 3: Lighting McQueen watching Doc's final moments after racing him. Doesn't help it was a dark time for Lighting's actor. The Black Cauldron: A guard being painfully melted to bone. Yes, really. The scene mostly remains lost. Lilo and Stitch: The scene of Jumba chasing Stitch through the house made it into the final product, but the darker aspects were modified. The infamous moment of Lilo nearly getting killed by a chainsaw understandably was not kept in. Jumba's multipurpose device was originally much more dangerous looking. He also used to look on-model. The famous hot potato scene was a late addition. Originally Stitch tore open the house's methane pipe and held it out in the open. Also, the house caught on fire as a result of that. Lion King: Scar prepared to r**e Nala. A modified version of the scene is in the Broadway musical. Lion King 2: Zira intentionally committing suicide. The part of her smiling as she falls was kept, though. Zootopia: There are two shock collar scenes. One where Nick is clearly the main character (as opposed to Judy) and fantasizes while the collar is off. The other being darker where a kid receives his shock collar. The later is a powerful scene, but it's understandable why there were heavy rewrites. Alice in Wonderland: Alice's execution. A strange scene is Pig and Pepper. There's also the very infamous unused Jabberwocky. Pinocchio: Gepetto considers eating the pet fish. Tarzan: The first I'm mentioning is not that messed up, but originally the final battle was going to take place on a boat and Clayton would've died there. The later however is quite messed up. The father of Tarzan would've been killed by Sabor onscreen. Mulan: Shuan Yu destroys a village and kills a man of his for hiding the canary. Was actually mostly deleted to have more focus on Mulan. Finding Nemo: Not really a deleted scene, but the annoying girl at the dentist was originally going to be sadistic; especially as she tried to bite the dentist in a less goofy fashion. One that is lost, however, is the barracuda carrying Nemo's dead mother. Toy Story: Woody's nightmare in Toy Story 2 was inspired by a more nightmare inducing version that went unused for the original. It also explains the nightmare Buzz fight on the first Toy Story game. Toy Story 3: Back when Circle 7 was in charge, the story was drastically different. Some concept art involved Buzz almost being crushed alive by the disposal unit. Monster's Inc: The scene of Mike and Sully escaping from Harryhausen's arguably ended up being creepier in the final product, but originally the building straight up got destroyed in fiery fashion.
It's not really a deleted scene but an early version of Monster's Inc in story board that was on the Extras DVD disc. There was a scene where an early version of Sully had an apartment by himself and had a nosey landlord who had tentacle like eyes. To keep it short, the end of the story board had an announcement over the news that there was a human girlbin the monster world aka Boo. The landlord sees this an she knows that Sully upstairs lives alone but heard 2 voices upstairs before (landlord lives directly below him). So the landlord just extended her eyes into the ventilation system looking for Boo. I remember there's a specific scene Boo hides behind the kitchen counter and the eyes are just around the corner. That scarred me for quite a bit as a kid
You need to talk about the scene in The Black Cauldron with the guy melting into a skeleton. It's not even a storyboard, but a completed scene that was included in the first screening of the film. Unfortunately it's lost, but there are four frames available
You have to do the Lion King one that's a reprise of be prepared! It's horrific and I love it, it really drives home how horrible Scar is but it's one I BEYOND understand cutting because he literally says he's going to impregnate her 💀
think it's for the better snug got cut as the film did have a small issue of the 1st half mostly being more mr. incredible's story that it would've been much trying to have another character only for him to just die halfway,it makes no sense at all the kids going to a dangerous island when helenn's shown to be a good reasonable mother compared to them stowing away making it when the story gets intense and the story has enough stakes as we don't need death every second to show the world's danger as syndrome aiming at kids(with the guards having no issue trying to outright kill dash & violet/celebrating the omnidroid endangering people.)/the tons of super heroes that died at his hands is enough to be one of if not still the darkest pixar film. while wall-e's is interesting it does go against the point of buy n large(that with how it's gotten cameos in other pixar films does give a creepy undertone that it's the future of those films worlds/a future film showing it's start.) alongside makes the ending feel like an inevitable hopeless downer(that test audiences felt what little life we saw onscreen wouldn't bring earth back to normal that they fixed showing more ships arriving/more plant life around.)as it feels less like the earth getting so polluted it became inhospitable and more it caused to planet to break apart in a kind of gaia's vengeance or something horrible awakening from all the chaos like it caused the robots to go skynet/darker sorcerer's apprentice destroying earth.(after the scene got a pampers ad of a baby crying which 100% would've been children's reactions to this scene.)
1. They should have left the fish scene in. They should have change the plane to a ship, not only because of 9-11, but because it also it makes more sense. These are aliens. 2. It made sense to cut it. To much time would have been needed to set it up right, and the movie is already intense as it is. Also I don't remember the movie really dealing with civilian/superhero interactions in regards to civilian roles in the Superhero world. So that would have been a whole other kettle that would have needed time. 3. Dude that's a bridge to far. That's multiple bridges to far. 4. That's Brave Little Toaster horror levels.
I kind of wish they had kept Snug's death because it shows all the hard decisions the Heros had to make, the deaths they couldn't prevent that weigh on them, of course I'm probably putting too much heavy in kids film
One I'm surprised didn't make the video is the deleted scene from Bolt where he fights against pit bull's for food and gets absolutely bloodied up,all the while he sees on a TV the show that he was on, realizing that he has no powers and it was all fake
The black cauldron had a scene that was deleted for being to disturbing. I cant remember much but it was basically the monsters skin melting off in acid if im correct? 😅
The running away slow in dreams I use to have them it always scares me because I couldn't run fast it was slow I don't remember who chase but it was scaring
Holy shit, I really like the Stitch one. I can see why Disney were like NO nope No No about ittho lol, didn't expect it gonna be this dark lol They don't even confirm that Lilo's parent pass away, they just imply it.
I know it’s probably not the worst one, but the deleted scene from cars where Lightning goes through a car graveyard freaked me out as a kid. Nowadays I find it a bit interesting because death isn’t really tackled in the cars world?? Like they have dead characters like the one cars husband or Hudson I think, but we don’t know how it works?? Is it just their engines that go out?? Are their engines their hearts? Their brains? Can cars get sick?? How old can cars live to?? I honestly think the most interesting thing about cars is how the world itself works but they don’t explore it, they just do dumb stuff 💀 Edit: Omg as a kid I always found the plane scene in incredibles confusing, Helen looking at that plane made me think “Wait did the pilot guy die??” So now it makes a lot of sense
There is an entire storyreel of Toy Story that was going to be darker than the final film. Please take this next part with a bit of salt, but there's a chance that it might be leaked soon since Disney's servers have been recently hacked. And on those servers, they had a digitized copy of the reel.
If I was making films, I personally would consider how a rough scene would affect an audience's desire to watch it again. I feel like true 'classic' films should be infinitely re-watchable, even if it's a suspense-type film (I've watched The Shining probably 40-50 times, for instance). Don't know about other people, but there are moments in big films like Avatar or Aliens (apologies James C.) where a certain shot, plot element, or awful character was such a cringe that even though it worked the first time, I could never see the movie again. (I guess that's personal taste, I can watch Blue Velvet's Frank Booth endlessly but I'd guess some would get turned off by such a psycho.)
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That Wall E scene could pass as analog horror.
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Thanks, now I need to see a Wall-E analog horror.
Zootopia’s deleted polar bear shock collar initiation party. At one point during the making of the film the APEX predators were given shock collars to keep them in check and there was a scene whe there is said shock collar initiation party where a polar bear cub gets it’s own shock collar and I gets slightly too excited and he gets shocked and you see the joy completely disappear from his face ending with both the father and the cub look at each so sadly. I mean could you imagine how horrible that situation would’ve been the cub learns that this is his life now and the father is having to watch and practically just accept that it’s now his son’s life now too.
if im being honest i love this scene and personally wish Disney had gone for the OG plot or other studios would do an idea like that as the idea of what could be done with predators being forced to wear a shock collar can be a really compelling story if done right
That wasn't a deleted scene when you think about it. That was a deleted movie.
@@antifagoat6591yeah the shock collars would’ve made it completely different. I do wonder what the movie would’ve been like if they kept that though
@@antifagoat6591 a different version of the same movie so technically it would count. The whole shock collar aspect was still in the story way past the storyboard stage and was still in development during the animatic phase and even the early stages of the animation stage.
This is loosely the plot of over the hedge, with the exterminator putting mind controlling caps on the animals
My favorite deleted Disney scene is Zira's death in Lion King 2 where she deliberately kills herself and smiles the entire fall down.
same !
Came here to mention this one. Love it.
I could’ve sworn I saw that in the final movie-
zira was my favorite disney villain as a kid even though it was a sequel, i loved her so much. and little me was a morbid fuck so i absolutely wouldve gotten a massive kick outta that. thank you for bringing this to my attention
That's not deleted it's still in some versions thats why in the disney+ one she's smiling as she falls they just cut it out in SOME versions
*pudge dies* YOU DONT LET YOUR FAMILY DIE *what a way to introduce death to kids*
There’s a even more disturbing deleted scene from cars, a scene where lightning comes across a bunch of dead rusted vehicles.
Yeah, I also thought about that scene when he mentioned "body horror in Cars". It really freaked me out as a kid.
I remember that one
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I’m surprised he didn’t mention that one cuz it scared me as a kid
We turned it off so dang fast when that happened.
If you see the animatic for Snug's death, you can see that the kids accompanied Helen, which doesn't make sense cuz she knows this mission to save Bob is dangerous and she wouldn't put her kids in danger on purpose, so the scene we got makes more sense as to why the kids came to save Bob, it was because they snuck in
I know Scar’s original death in “The Lion King” was a lot more grizzly. He was originally planned to defeat Simba by throwing him off the ledge of Pride Rock, laughing maniacally as the flames of the wildfire consumed him. While gruesome, I’m kinda glad they went with the more satisfactory ending in the final version.
I recall there being a particularly dark deleted scene in “Mulan” where, during the Huns’ invasion of that one mountain village, one of the soldiers takes pity for a pet bird trapped in a burning building and rescues it. Shan Yu is aware of this selfless act of disobedience and tells him to release it, only for his falcon to kill the bird before he brutally stabs the solider through the chest with his sword, declaring to his army that there is no tolerance for weakness. I can see why this was a little too much.
Though probably the most dark scene that was removed from a Disney animated film was probably the original version of Bambi’s mother’s death. In the final film, we never see her death onscreen, but the original had her slowly limp along and eventually succumb to her fatal wound, collapsing to the ground as the snow around her body turned red and Bambi begs her to get back up. If this sounds at all familiar to you, that’s because Don Bluth lifted this same exact scene for Littlefoot’s mother in “The Land Before Time” - albeit toning down the blood.
That wasn’t the only dark scene that was deleted in “Bambi”, however. One other scene had the unseen hunter actually die, with the grown up Bambi stumbling across his charred remains, having perished to the flames of the forest fire he inadvertently created. This was a scene lifted from the original novel, where Bambi makes the realization that mankind wasn’t a god like the hound dog claimed, but a mortal creature just like everyone else.
Tbh Scar getting mauled to death by the hyenas in the final cut is alot more gruesome once you find out how irl hyenas hunt....let's just say Scar's death was NOT quick....
Another thing about the Mulan deleted scene was towards the end, Shan Yu and the Falcon were somehow spiritually connected as both their eyes glow yellow when they made eye contact and how Yu found out about the soldier’s disobedience
Definitely could of keep the stitch slaps fish scene. Just make it where stitch slaps it into the water and it swims away. Leela still gets pissed and says you don't hurt family
I agree with this i dont want to see her fish die that would be sad but it'd be a good lesson for Stitch
I have the strangest feeling that Disney is going to include the fish scene in the live action Lilo and Stitch.
yeah, that sounds right
they couldn't even say jackass in the pinnochio one
The live action WHAT-
God no, realistic Stitch will look awful 😭
@@KingOfGaymesI actually saw it. It’s an animatronic
WHAT LIVE ACTION- WHY??
There are 2 deleted scenes that pop into my mind:
1. The original opening for The Incredibles where Syndrome was a minor villain
2. A scene where McQueen in his state of panic looking for Mac, crashes and happens upon a corpse before driving away
I loved combing over all the bonus features on my DVDs when I was a kid, and that led me to discovering the Cars deleted scenes as a wee child. I was not okay. While the body swap scene unnerved me, the junkyard scene scared the absolute daylights out of me. The mangled cars with their vague faces, the sound effects, how alone Lightning was. It was awful. If you do a follow up to this video, I'd definitely recommend talking about the junkyard scene!
ME TOO
it freaked me out so bad 😭
Yeah Disney knows how to make their heroes seem really evil in the cut material. Woody and Stitch
To be fair, Stitch was evil, and Woody was the antagonist
@@riotbreaker3506 Woody was still the protagonist of the story, he was just a dick
@@riotbreaker3506Woody was still the protagonist actually, that’s why they changed it. People found him too mean spirited as a main character
But they Were worse at the beginning, not meant to be very nice..
There's a lot of fantastic moments cut from Lilo and Stitch that speak to the character's identities. Like how Lilo is commodified in her own homeland, hence why she hates tourists. Like there's a deleted clip where she outright says all tourists should die
I thought she liked tourists, or at least the overweight ones because she has that wall of photos of big people at the beach
@KingOfGaymes She takes photos of tourists the same way they probably take photos of her, it's like her own way to get back at them
@@riotbreaker3506 she calls them beautiful in one scene
There is a deleted scene from Bolt where he and Mittens end up in Las Vegas and at one point he gets attacked and injured by a group of strays in an alleyway, therefore at that moment he has the realization that he really doesn't have superpowers.
I dunno if it counts as a dark scene, but it is messed up in its racial implications. There's a deleted scene in Lilo and Stich that made it to rough pencil animation where we are shown how Lilo is treated by the white tourists on a daily basis, some treating her as just another Hawaiian attraction for being a "real native". She's shown going to the beach right before a tsunami siren test, telling the tourists she's calling for a giant tsunami to come after them and to "prepare to die." The tourists hear the siren, they panic, and Stitch laughs at the situation. It's just a great scene that exemplifies Lilo as an outsider not just among her peers but on her own land by the tourists. It's likely why she takes pictures of them, because of how tourists would take pictures of her. It's also a bonding moment with Stitch as he sees her create chaos for her own amusement and to retaliate against the tourists.
That cars scene is genuenly so uncomfortable for me
For real,it shows my biggest fear being stuck somewhere
Pudge is attacked by a flock of seagulls? Then he should've ran so far away.
He could’ve ran all night and day but I don’t think he could get away
fuck this is my favorite comment on TH-cam now
I get the feeling the Pudge scene was taken out because even though Stitch starts the story as a villain and he would've had that moment of realization afterwards, it runs the risk of taking Stitch beyond a moral event horizon. Stitch laughing as Lilo tries in vain not to let her beloved fish get pecked to death might have a chance of making Stitch too unlikable.
For me the darkest Disney deleted scene was the flesh melting scene from The Black Cauldron, when the undead army literally reduce a poor man to a gory mass of flesh and bones. If that scene has remained intact, then we would’ve had Disney’s first R-rated movie. Tbh I kinda wanna see that.
Ohhh ma pickle!
Yeah, I really do wish they would restore it. Disney+ includes R-rated content now, anyway.
>Stitch kills the family
WHAT
>...fish
oh
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Don’t diss my man pudge like that
Same reaction buddy. Same reaction.
The deleted Woody's nightmare scene from Toy Story 1 would have been more creepier than the one from the second film.
Steele's original death in Balto featured him receiving the gold collar, only to suffer an accident where he was hanged by it... and if that wasn't enough, he was hanged on a lever that opened a mineshaft, which he proceeded to fall down after slipping out of the collar.
There's one deleted scene from "The Lion King" that would fit disturbing. Scar tries to "persuade" Nala to be his Queen. I don't think I have to explain on "persuade".
The body horror in cars when McQueen runs into a graveyard when trying to find his way back to the interstate only to crash into a yard of dead cars that are decaying. He ends up driving and getting tangled in parts and wire only to pull a jaw off a dead car and the metal to screech and McQueen to dash out of there. Like wtf was up lol so much body horror. What disturbs me the most is if you imagine this as people it would be the equivalent to stumbling into corpses decomposing in the ground and hanging from trees to be panicking and running out of there to get entangled in their body and feel and see the horrific display of death consuming the once was person with a soul and a life only to be forgotten and rotting. Just chilling you should totally watch it
That secret files scene has always haunted me and you can't tell me it's an irrational fear to be scared of the deleted scene, cause it's a possible reality. I think the black and white storyboard visuals and the facial expressions of the president seals the deal for the (for lack of a better word) horror of the scene.
0:14 “l Want To Live” Is Last And Final Word Before Died
Good last words my friend
I think the Cars deleted scene was intended to be played off as funny. But then cut because it was too weird. The reason why I say this is because of another movie the staff worked on, The Brave Little Toaster.
There is a scene in that film where all of the characters (who are talking furniture by the way) walk into a part shop and it is framed like a horror movie like you see the shadows of a man tearing everything up with a screwdriver and oil dripping like blood. After the chilling and disturbing sequence they immediately cut to a musical number, making fun of horror movies in the fifties.
That and there were a lot of scenes that had Lightning McQueen with weird/comedic dreams such as the one where the cow wins the race
The Black Cauldron had some nasty gore before the rating was changed
I think that deleted Wall-E scene should’ve made it, even if it had to be tweaked. Having that recording be Auto’s motivation to keep the humans in space indefinitely would’ve made him a lot more interesting. BnL not being able to clean it up initially already happens anyway, considering their robots all rust away besides one, so I don’t think showing the initiative being unable to catch up with the damage they caused in the projected time really “ruins” anything about the film considering the earth is eventually able to be saved.
I disagree, while you are correct that BnL was not being able to 'put the toothpaste back in the tube' and that still works for the film, but the scene still would have ruined Auto's character and the movie's message.
Auto's control comes from complacency, not fear. If we lived in a alternate universe where green tech was dangerous and that's why we weren't using it. Then yes, Auto being motivated by fear would make sense. But in reality we don't use green tech because we're lazy and that laziness is what empowers Auto. So yeah, it would ruin the message a little.
I'll go further and add that Auto's motivation in the final cut is instead an impersonal "Must follow my directive". He's almost the embodiment of the corporate profit motive. Corporations are not good or evil, rather they're soulless entities that just need to make profit, and like Auto, keep humanity captured in a capitalist paradise. And both corporations and Auto are incapable to saving the planet if it goes against their core directive.
Interesting to see like the lorax biggering song where it absolutely changes the entire film with just one scene.
Stitch one I can see still work with a random fish not the family fish to give stich some wiggle room to grow.
Snug yeah would have been very dark but not seeing the body and changing it to dash immediately using his speed power to leave with the group could have left that possible end ambiguous for audiences.
Wall e should have been there it was really good.
Cars would have been a plot hole but honestly I can see it as a Halloween special
Lilo grew attached to the fish though
So you mean to say that Wall-E should traumatize a generation, blackmailing children to stop the pollution, plus how will humanity return to Earth if there is no way for them to survive. That moment would completely ruin Wall-E.
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the entirety of the black cauldron (1985) - that animation was absolutely metal!
I feel like Snug’s death was scrapped just to have a better age rating and wanted to play it safe.
Yeah. Also it doesn't make any sense lore wise as she has elastic abilities. So she'd be able to be a superhero and save both of them.
I watched an interview where Brad Bird himself said the reason why they decided to scrap the scene was because removing Snug and having Helen as the pilot would make it more like she’s in control of the plane and the fate of her own family.
I really do like auto's orginal design
it was pretty cool honestly
When I saw Auto's original design it actually reminded me of that one little robot in the final movie that is like auto's assistant except without arms and the head being it's entire small body. I watched the movie a lot especially as a kid but I never payed attention to what it's name was
@@m0isturGO-4 is who you're thinking of
Bro, please do a sequel to this if you can! Some possible scenes (some of which are taken from other comments!)-
Zira’s original death in The Lion King 2
Scar trying to seduce Nala (this happens in the musical, but it was also originally going to happen in the movie as well)
The Zootopia shock-collar scenes with the polar bear
The Black Friday Cut of Toy Story! Not as disturbing as some others but still interesting and darker
Lelo: HELP MEE STITCH
Stitch: Hehe fish get deadness effect
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If they had made the film with the scene in mind in wall-e they could’ve had it be a twist for kids. The company lied about the clean up effort and our hero Wall-E is exposing them for the greedy company they are. Like maybe another character finds proof the final transmission was all faked.
Pudge dying just doesn't work for what he symbolizes which is already she forgot to feed him and her parents died. Stitch killing him falls flat as needless cruelty.
Now Zira's death and Bambi's Mom's death are interesting because they added stakes and nightmare material.
I know I'm pretty late to the comments, but I wanted to mention that I actually saw that cars deleted scene when I was a kid accidentally, and it scared the absolute crap out of me. Before that, I was always keen to watching behind the scenes content on DVDs, but this scene scared me so much that I never had the interest of watching that stuff again. It was the first and only deleted scene I saw from that DVD, so I never saw the deleted graveyard scene thankfully.
This is going to be wild considering what they DO leave in
0:17 I love how this intro sounds like youre deciding on the topic for the video while youre recording it lmao
I actually watched the wall-e scene as a kid, because I had the two disk dvd back in 2008. Can confirm, it terrified me, gave me nightmares, etc.
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Bro I’ve never seen cars and the deleted scene made me want to cry???? 😭😭
Yer nor missing much cars is pretty boring at least for me
@@DILLPICKLEZZ23 Oh okay.
@@box0choco593nah go ahead. Don't rely on others for input discover it yourself and form your own opinions.
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Holy cow, that WALL-E scene is chilling
The “I want to live” scene from wall-e is my favorite, I kinda wish it was kept in.
It auctully still is! At least the line is
Pudge is a certified homie glad he didn’t die in the movie
Incredibles and wall e could have given so much more to the story overall.
I mean we saw so many heroes already lose their lives showing what lengths syndrome goes to.
Wall e should be there as the entire story was about pollution. Why not put a little fear in the people watching on this ending up a future to those who inherit the earth
they honestly shoulda just done both. keep the final film's politician version while also throwing in the original storyboard version but from the perspective of a news reporter not associated with b&l instead, better drive how hellish the place became because of b&l's ignorance and corruption.
The Wall-E deleted scene was way too disturbing even for an adult. Plus it would create a problem on how humanity will return when there's no way for them to survive. If the captain was there he would be on Auto's side.
@@theepic1944 so humans just keep polluting without this warning? Yeah that'd definitely help overall. Like the lorax removing the biggering song and putting into words why and how people can turn greedy.
Sorry but wall e could have told a message now before it's too late but once again executives are scared of being pointed to
@@ivanbluecool they still do that in the movie though it's really not that serious dude calm down
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in the mvoie Tarzan, they cut the orignal opening where we see Tarzan's father get killed by the Leopard as it drags his body across the floor.
what he said about the Cars Body Horror,with the whole 'running in water thing' is probably a little inspiration for this scene,because steam rollers aren't very fast,ESPECIALLY compared to a race car.
That lilo and stitch moment was really dark lmao xD
I am so glad those disturbing delayed scenes did not make it in, they would've traumatized me and a lot of other people as kids.
I remember when I was a kid and owned the DVD version of Cars, I saw the deleted scenes with the graveyard and body horror, but I was completely unfazed when my kid self watched them. Looking back, they were very disturbing and I'm glad they did not make it in the final cut.
The concept of the deleted graveyard scene from Cars was later used in a Cars short titled The Radiator Springs 500 1/2. The premise of the short is that the residents of Radiator Springs were celebrating their town's founder, but then four racers known as the Badja Pros come in and challenge Lightning McQueen to a race. During the final part of the race, McQueen and the Badja Pros find themselves in the Enchanted Forest at night, which became a graveyard filled with old car corpses, and the racers get the scare of a lifetime. They do manage to escape and return to Radiator Springs.
When you remember everyone working at Disney are adults of different ages and have to tone down their ideas for the company brand 😊
Damn theorist youve been dropping absolute bangers left and right lately
"...attacked by a flock of seagulls..."
Because Pudge ran, he ran so far away, but couldn't get away?
Id love to see more of this if youre up for it!!! I live learning about would be scenes and storyboards
Love the content, you're fantastic!
Honestly man when you started with that first Lilo and Stitch scene I really thought he was gonna just straight up eat the fish when Lilo showed it to him.
That last wall-e scene reminds me of the turning test
A friend is somebody that you actually love a family member of somebody you're forced to love
Pinocchio had a deleted scene where Geppetto and Figaro are in Montro and originally instead of simply not being able to catch anything they were trying to figure out what to do for good and to the point they begin to wonder about eating Cleo since they are starving. They both had very creepy expressions like as if enjoying the idea but Geppetto snaps back to his senses and what not and apologizes for scaring Cleo. I mean I am not too sure if I think it should be in the movie or not but I can understand why. Walt probably thought the scene was way too dark and disturbing since well it gives of the idea of someone being so hungry to the point where they are almost willing at eating their own pet which is a part of their family. I had no idea about it until I saw a video talking about dark deleted scenes from Disney movies. years ago. It was pretty shocking I am not going to lie about that.
That Lilo and Stitch scene went from 1 to 100 real quick. Like the lil pan over to the graves of Lilo’s parents actually surprised me
For years i never thought i would find that Cars scene i saw as a kid, but here there is, that video as a kid scared me so much that i never saw that again until now, as i kid i didn’t understand why it scared me so much, now i do…
Love the old fashioned tv in the background
Wall-E's deleted scene is just a silly reference to a Star Trek episode that didn't made sense on the long run because the final movie doesn't have William Shatner as the president.
The "I wanna live!" line is an infamous dialogue from a Star Trek TOS episode in which Captain Kirk gets seprated into two versions of himself, one more sensible and one more agressive. As all great Star Trek episodes do, they explore the moral dilema of the independant existance of these two beings, and by the end of the episode it is decided to join them to form the real Captain Kirk again, to the absolute horror of the evil Kirk who (regardless of being an ass) is still a living being who wants to live as an independant being. The line was memed to death back in the day and during old-school internet too.
The storyboards in Wall-E use William Shatner's likeness as a constant standin for the president, and they even did somewhat of an impersonation of him for those scenes. So it's very posible to assume they wanted Shatner for that small role. The line is also treated as a reference, as it doesn't draw that much attention to itself.
Maybe executives thought it came across as too dark regardless of it being a silly referece, maybe it was just a stand-in for the development process (because the artists were big nerds of ST) and it was never meant to be final, or maybe none. I'm just impressed that absolutely none of the people I've seen covering these animated storyboards has ever catched the reference.
Other deleted or lost scenes would be:
Cars: Lightning McQueen coming across a graveyard of rusty cars while lost. Partly was reused for The Radiator Springs 500 1/2.
Cars 3: Lighting McQueen watching Doc's final moments after racing him. Doesn't help it was a dark time for Lighting's actor.
The Black Cauldron: A guard being painfully melted to bone. Yes, really. The scene mostly remains lost.
Lilo and Stitch: The scene of Jumba chasing Stitch through the house made it into the final product, but the darker aspects were modified. The infamous moment of Lilo nearly getting killed by a chainsaw understandably was not kept in. Jumba's multipurpose device was originally much more dangerous looking. He also used to look on-model. The famous hot potato scene was a late addition. Originally Stitch tore open the house's methane pipe and held it out in the open. Also, the house caught on fire as a result of that.
Lion King: Scar prepared to r**e Nala. A modified version of the scene is in the Broadway musical.
Lion King 2: Zira intentionally committing suicide. The part of her smiling as she falls was kept, though.
Zootopia: There are two shock collar scenes. One where Nick is clearly the main character (as opposed to Judy) and fantasizes while the collar is off. The other being darker where a kid receives his shock collar. The later is a powerful scene, but it's understandable why there were heavy rewrites.
Alice in Wonderland: Alice's execution. A strange scene is Pig and Pepper. There's also the very infamous unused Jabberwocky.
Pinocchio: Gepetto considers eating the pet fish.
Tarzan: The first I'm mentioning is not that messed up, but originally the final battle was going to take place on a boat and Clayton would've died there. The later however is quite messed up. The father of Tarzan would've been killed by Sabor onscreen.
Mulan: Shuan Yu destroys a village and kills a man of his for hiding the canary. Was actually mostly deleted to have more focus on Mulan.
Finding Nemo: Not really a deleted scene, but the annoying girl at the dentist was originally going to be sadistic; especially as she tried to bite the dentist in a less goofy fashion. One that is lost, however, is the barracuda carrying Nemo's dead mother.
Toy Story: Woody's nightmare in Toy Story 2 was inspired by a more nightmare inducing version that went unused for the original. It also explains the nightmare Buzz fight on the first Toy Story game.
Toy Story 3: Back when Circle 7 was in charge, the story was drastically different. Some concept art involved Buzz almost being crushed alive by the disposal unit.
Monster's Inc: The scene of Mike and Sully escaping from Harryhausen's arguably ended up being creepier in the final product, but originally the building straight up got destroyed in fiery fashion.
Maybe one reason why they did not keep the Pudge scene in Lilo & Stitch is because there are no seagulls on the Hawaiian islands.
It's not really a deleted scene but an early version of Monster's Inc in story board that was on the Extras DVD disc.
There was a scene where an early version of Sully had an apartment by himself and had a nosey landlord who had tentacle like eyes. To keep it short, the end of the story board had an announcement over the news that there was a human girlbin the monster world aka Boo. The landlord sees this an she knows that Sully upstairs lives alone but heard 2 voices upstairs before (landlord lives directly below him). So the landlord just extended her eyes into the ventilation system looking for Boo. I remember there's a specific scene Boo hides behind the kitchen counter and the eyes are just around the corner.
That scarred me for quite a bit as a kid
There's a whole thing with Cars 2 with a completely different plot and a completely different villain
Theres a deleted scene from Pinocchio where while in the whale, Jepedo starts to go insane and tries to eat his car before coming bacl to his senses
You need to talk about the scene in The Black Cauldron with the guy melting into a skeleton. It's not even a storyboard, but a completed scene that was included in the first screening of the film. Unfortunately it's lost, but there are four frames available
You have to do the Lion King one that's a reprise of be prepared! It's horrific and I love it, it really drives home how horrible Scar is but it's one I BEYOND understand cutting because he literally says he's going to impregnate her 💀
think it's for the better snug got cut as the film did have a small issue of the 1st half mostly being more mr. incredible's story that it would've been much trying to have another character only for him to just die halfway,it makes no sense at all the kids going to a dangerous island when helenn's shown to be a good reasonable mother compared to them stowing away making it when the story gets intense and the story has enough stakes as we don't need death every second to show the world's danger as syndrome aiming at kids(with the guards having no issue trying to outright kill dash & violet/celebrating the omnidroid endangering people.)/the tons of super heroes that died at his hands is enough to be one of if not still the darkest pixar film.
while wall-e's is interesting it does go against the point of buy n large(that with how it's gotten cameos in other pixar films does give a creepy undertone that it's the future of those films worlds/a future film showing it's start.) alongside makes the ending feel like an inevitable hopeless downer(that test audiences felt what little life we saw onscreen wouldn't bring earth back to normal that they fixed showing more ships arriving/more plant life around.)as it feels less like the earth getting so polluted it became inhospitable and more it caused to planet to break apart in a kind of gaia's vengeance or something horrible awakening from all the chaos like it caused the robots to go skynet/darker sorcerer's apprentice destroying earth.(after the scene got a pampers ad of a baby crying which 100% would've been children's reactions to this scene.)
I'mma be real: If I saw the Deleted Wall-E scene as a kid....it probably would've given me nightmares
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1. They should have left the fish scene in. They should have change the plane to a ship, not only because of 9-11, but because it also it makes more sense. These are aliens.
2. It made sense to cut it. To much time would have been needed to set it up right, and the movie is already intense as it is. Also I don't remember the movie really dealing with civilian/superhero interactions in regards to civilian roles in the Superhero world. So that would have been a whole other kettle that would have needed time.
3. Dude that's a bridge to far. That's multiple bridges to far.
4. That's Brave Little Toaster horror levels.
I kind of wish they had kept Snug's death because it shows all the hard decisions the Heros had to make, the deaths they couldn't prevent that weigh on them, of course I'm probably putting too much heavy in kids film
One I'm surprised didn't make the video is the deleted scene from Bolt where he fights against pit bull's for food and gets absolutely bloodied up,all the while he sees on a TV the show that he was on, realizing that he has no powers and it was all fake
The black cauldron had a scene that was deleted for being to disturbing. I cant remember much but it was basically the monsters skin melting off in acid if im correct? 😅
I srsly thought bro was just writing down stitch kills the family and I was like aw heck naw
The running away slow in dreams I use to have them it always scares me because I couldn't run fast it was slow I don't remember who chase but it was scaring
5:40 sounds like Lucy from animated peanuts
People with TH-cam premium can not get 2 months free aye? Sad if so p.s thank god that morbid scene from Lilo & Stitch was not in it
Huh, I was thinking the deleted scene from the Black Cauldron would be in this video.
Holy shit, I really like the Stitch one. I can see why Disney were like NO nope No No about ittho lol, didn't expect it gonna be this dark lol
They don't even confirm that Lilo's parent pass away, they just imply it.
what the HELL, Cars writers???
The cars scene is horrifying you having your life stolen from him by his best friend
It’s always cool to think what could have been.
There's this one cartoon called Black Dynamite the second season got them in trouble cuz they made a disturbing joke about magic Johnson
Snug dying probably would have pushed the film's rating to PG-13.
There is a limit to how violent a movie can be before it goes beyond a PG rating.
I know it’s probably not the worst one, but the deleted scene from cars where Lightning goes through a car graveyard freaked me out as a kid. Nowadays I find it a bit interesting because death isn’t really tackled in the cars world?? Like they have dead characters like the one cars husband or Hudson I think, but we don’t know how it works?? Is it just their engines that go out?? Are their engines their hearts? Their brains? Can cars get sick?? How old can cars live to??
I honestly think the most interesting thing about cars is how the world itself works but they don’t explore it, they just do dumb stuff 💀
Edit: Omg as a kid I always found the plane scene in incredibles confusing, Helen looking at that plane made me think “Wait did the pilot guy die??” So now it makes a lot of sense
how about the black friday scene from Toy story 1
Those scenes are good for a Simpsons Episode
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There is an entire storyreel of Toy Story that was going to be darker than the final film. Please take this next part with a bit of salt, but there's a chance that it might be leaked soon since Disney's servers have been recently hacked. And on those servers, they had a digitized copy of the reel.
Bolt. There's a deleted scene that actually might have changed the entire story in general
If I was making films, I personally would consider how a rough scene would affect an audience's desire to watch it again.
I feel like true 'classic' films should be infinitely re-watchable, even if it's a suspense-type film (I've watched The Shining probably 40-50 times, for instance). Don't know about other people, but there are moments in big films like Avatar or Aliens (apologies James C.) where a certain shot, plot element, or awful character was such a cringe that even though it worked the first time, I could never see the movie again. (I guess that's personal taste, I can watch Blue Velvet's Frank Booth endlessly but I'd guess some would get turned off by such a psycho.)