This has been an incredible league for me. After 6.5k hours I was finally able to farm my first mirror! Thanks to them being cheaper. Feels good to have one just before POE2 hits.
@pesteanvstefan5491 Nice! I've always only played poe to make builds. Never cared about mirrors or crazy items. I love testing new things. But with poe2 coming I wanted a mirror on my account as part of my collection as it were. Pretty fun to have it!
@@pesteanvstefan5491 I don't care if I made 10 mirrors, I would never spend most of the league in my hideout. It defeats the purpose of playing the game at all.
First time i have ever farmed a mageblood. First time i got 2 characters to 99, first time in half a decade i unlocked more than 2 totem stages. Still playing. Good league, good game.
@@АнтонГаврилов-ц8е Poe is basically my second job but still farming for a mageblood because I hate gambling, so only got honest work that yields like 1-2 divines per day unless I get a random drop that now barely happens because no conversion mobs... Everything that's interesting to me has dirt cheap rewards or gambling. For example, currently, +100c for king of the mist fight or +500c if it has a jewel and I sell unid, or +60 div if the jewel identifies into energy shield. If I run 10 of those and don't get a jewel it's -1000c. Or if I get jewels and they don't identify into something useful, it's a -600c each. And many mechanics in current poe work like that. It was fine in affliction, because base drops were decent, but now it's just small and big gambas, starting with scarabs.
@@sirgog could be interesting if rogue markers get discontinued and gold becomes the new heist currency, so faustus can retain his function in the future, if settlers become discontinued. and consiquentially heist will reward a good amount of gold for selling contract loot and just opening chests inside
I would argue the following wrt to gold drop rates beyond this league - 1. Gold seems to be balanced around Kingsmarch farming, shipping and mapping rewards. 2. The most likely outcome at the end of the league is that Faustus goes core, and Kingsmarch doesnt. 3. This could potentially imply that gold drops across Wraeclast are nerfed, since there are fewer gold sinks in the game (only Currency Ex and Black Market) 4. This inturn leads to the Currency Ex feeling harder to use, since the gold costs are still pretty high. Thematically, I'd prefer if Quant was replaced with a hybrid "Increased Gold Drops" and "Item Rarity" modifier, so that items like Greeds, Ventors and the Gold Flask are still ideal for raw Gold farming. I would also like to see the Black Market gain a section for guaranteed Uniques for a ton more gold, because the current iteration doesnt see much use outside of leveling a new character. Aka it alone is not a sink enough for gold.
This is the first league I mirrored an item, and actually mirrored 2. I had builds worth 1-2 mirrors before but never actually had enough to burn 1 mirror into a single piece like this one.
Great league. I now sell everything that works via Faustus from 5c onward, fossils, scarabs and bulk buy scarabs to fit my strategy without the annoying player trading. Never had that much spare currency. Only things like cortex maps and chronicles collect dust in my stash. Yeah about the gold drops, they're really uneven with only the natural mobs dropping well it's always a setback if I do a blueprint, blight maps or a mechanic that doesn't drop well. This should be balanced better as it's not really making sense. Also the immense amounts of ore I need for shipping would require mapping to no end, trying the challenge atm.
One thing I’d like to add is I’ve gotten a mirror shard from a 1.3ish million shipment. I’d guess I’ve sent maybe 20-25? Of these total but take that with a huge grain of salt as I have not been keeping track. I have also read comments of other people getting a mirror shard from 1.4 million shipments, but I can only be certain of what’s happened to me.
Yeah they CAN appear in smaller shipments but all research indicates you get WAY more mirror shards per shipment value in 50m ones. Like you might get 2.5 shards per 50m shipment, but only 1 shard per 100 1m shipments.
@@sirgog i didn't think about that but yeah, that aligns with my experience of only getting a single mirror shard out of the many 1.2-1.6 million shipments i've done. I guessed I've done 20-25 but it could reasonably be in 30s 35+ which I could have probably have done a 50 million shipment with crops+dust left over. though, i do average a divine on each one, but that won't make up for the loss of mirror shards.
from what i've heard from other people specializing in math behind boats, You're not supposed to send more than 10 mil dust, it lowers results, from their trials ratio 4:1 yields 4-6 shards and closer to 1:1 result in 1-3
I took a week off a couple weeks back and relog to see divine is worth next to nothing. Yet still only comes from league mechanics or rare raw drop. Economics in this game has been wild last year.
The point about the recombinator not causing divines to rise/stay higher in price is probably because using the recombinator effectively requires that extra level of game knowledge above what it takes to send out 50m shipments. That combined with the fact that the 50m shipments are a lot more reliable and steady income compared to gambling with the recombinator hoping for a big jackpot. On a separate note why is the recombinator not given to us straight away as soon as we unlock kingsmarch? I would much rather be able to smash leveling items together to get useable stuff while leveling rather than the ships which give low amounts of bubblegum currency after waiting for 30 minutes if you use them early on. Just a thought
For someone starting late, say you got a HH to ease smashing content what route would you take for league strats to progress into t17 farming once you are geared?
sir sigrog, can u pls help me decide what build to try. This league i had Ls slayer (got so mad of bad defences and dying that i deleted the char), spectre necro (which is most powerful build i have rn but clear speed is not good), lacerate/EQ glad (very tanky, but only 3-4mil dps, also VFoS Jugg with phys to ele conversion (which i feel is meh), i want something with good clearspeed, something that cares about least amount of map mods and tanky(i love block and lucky block). Posion holy relic necro? Trickster something? budget around 50 div, i have more, but i dont like to spend unless build is worth it 100%.
@@grippersrealm you can effectively trade up to a headhunter by only trading stacks of 8 Patient/Nurse/Doctor whichever is cheapest and eventually cash out Doctors. Only handicap is gold cost.
Faustus definitely has an effect on the chaos/div ratio. Everything you do with him is better with chaos. Why take bad rates with divines when you can simply instantly trade them for chaos and trade?
I like slightly more affordable mirrors, before if I dropped had a mirror I was gonna sell it no doubt, now I Might be able to afford to actually get 1 mirrored item for the first time so yea.. I love it..
I sort of don't get how buying T0s is cost-effective. If I'm buying Rakiata's Dance for 4div, and it's giving me 1844928 dust, that's about 108div for a full 50M shipment of dust. Obviously you're only sending 25M, but on a per-shipment-value-basis, your full shipments need to have an EV of >108div for buying dust to not put you in the red vs just waiting and shipping half as often (with entirely crops and no dust) but with more than twice the average net reward.
If you're going to farm sirius, normal version is actually better than uber. Uber will drop these massive threads of hope which are extremely common (he literally can't drop any other variant) and the bleed boots which can highroll to a 2-3 div i guess. With PERFECT rolls that is. Flask is cool i guess but it's also cheap this leauge. Normal Sir will drop the gloves as the most common item and it's a fun gambling item, you could get a great 4 or 5 implicit combo on it and sell it for 10-20 divs. Threads of hope from Normal are pricier than Massive from uber actually. But much rarer too. Awakeners orb and Orb of Dominance (elevated mod orb) are equal chances from both normal and uber sirius. And these drops will be the bulk of profits of sirius farming. If you can't be arsed to grind conqueror maps yourself, just feed them to kingsmarch mappers. Scour them to white to ensure 100% completion rate. You'll get your boss fragmets for free.
I think the big effect Faustus has had is in the devaluation of bubblegum currency. I was able to buy 500,000 chance orbs for only 5,000 chaos and im sure that ratio is even better now. Gold has put limits on this. That cost me 12.5 million gold. The larger gold cost is all the time i could have spent mapping, i have been using chance/scours 😂
Yeah, although that's been going on a while. Remember when regals were often 1c for a good while in a league, but that wasn't quite enough to bother with when you had 17 of them in your stash? But even 2 years ago, you didn't have 17 you had 230, and so you went and sold them (or others did first and they crashed the market)
I feel like shipping devalued gumball currency especially from the first few weeks when everyone was sending 5x5k crops and 8k dust six times per hour to riben fell. Those returned like 20-40x of everything below blessed/regal/regret per shipment. I hid everything below alts on my filter earlier than ever this league.
Done 15 Cat level 83 runs no veiled orb, a friend farmed 80 runs before he got his. Unlikely its 25-30% more like 10-15% or so based on other players. I think headhunter is trash but we can all disagree.
What makes me certain that Faustus will continue to be there is the unprecedented player retention and positive feedback combined with the vocal threat of forever leaving if he gets removed :'D
First 4-5 weeks player numbers were record breaking, now they are just high. TotA isn't core, and TotA did better on week 7 retention numbers than Settlers. I'm curious about some of the other key metrics though - some that we don't see, such as where in progression people walk from a league. How many 40/40 + Mageblood accounts are there that have not logged in for 14 days? How many people crossed 12 challenges yesterday? Etc etc.
@@sirgog i got to a point in strength where i felt there was no value in getting any more upgrades around day 28ish, and that led me to logoff and not return. I think next league ill go back to playing off-meta garbage that always has meaningful upgrades and never gets to the point of "i easily destroy all content"
this is not certain, this league mechanic has implemented a way to get people to always come back to continue their ships or they feel like they're missing out. This can work for a bit but once people get bored and dont want to bother logging in every single day to keep up, they will let go completely. Then and only then will we see player retention drop very suddenly.
I wasn't aware people didn't like Sirus that much. I taught my friend how to do that fight and he's fallen in love with it. I'll have to let him know he can actually make some money off of it.
Even in affliction that boss printed divines. People hate it so much that its always worth doing. Personal experience of killing him enough to go insane.
@@matthewalvarez6884 My condolences. Explains why Bottled Faith is always so much. I get Progenesis being a fortune since Uber Mave is hard and a long fight, but Sirus never struck me as particularly hard, just kind of annoying.
I've been playing Poe for a while, and it's pretty obvious 3.25 was the end of the road for GGG Poe 2 is forced-Ruthless, and that sh1t is DoA This is simply too many leagues in a row now where players were not given anything to do. GGG/Rogers and Neon have such an adversarial and antagonistic approach to league-design and players are sick and tired of this sh1t. Item being converted into gold, which you then have to wait hours and hours and hours to convert back into items?? Like, wtf is this sh1t? Who thought this sh1t would be a good idea?
Are you kidding? Haven't you seen the incredible positive feedback that poe2 is getting? I've heard nothing but positive things from those who played it . POE 2 will destroy what is left of diablo. Poe 1 had to make changes because numbers were dropping and dropping and just the fact that this league has had incredible retention numbers, tells you all you need to know.
Gold's in a really weird spot atm where there's a few mechanics that are just best at it. Certain objectives - completing Delve nodes and Heists among them - could do with increases.
I had a late league start, in that I finished the campaign less than an hour ago. This was just what I needed to get caught up on the league economy--thanks!
I sent 1 50M shipment and realized my mappers in one week dont bring in as much currency as one ship. Yes it takes a week to farm that amount of weed but farmers cost like half of running just one set of mappers. since i'm not running mappers 1M gold is enough for nearly a week. If you need Dust, a mageblood gives 2.1M dust, just a fun fact
12:00 yeahhhh thats me :DD, i've ran about 400 uber sirus this league and it has been lucrative, i did it about 2 weeks ago though so i think it makes less money now
Same. Early League I had a ratio of 30-40% on my first 20 Catarinas. Same numbers I had in 3.24. Since then it's only been 3 veiled orbs in 40 Catarinas. I really wonder if it wasn't silently nerfed in 3.25.1
I got 1 in my first cata this league. You underestimate the fact that you can get unlucky in a row. It's not like you get the orb after 3-4 runs guaranteed.
@@GE_Photon_Lord nono i like betrayal and i have had it on my atlas tree ever since it was introduced. This leage i had shit luck with it - but basically i got 5 veiled orbs in 40-50 katas. I wold have preferred a streak of veiled orbs instead of teh opposite tho.
@@GE_Photon_Lord I also got 1 in my first cata this League. Then 3 in a row at some point. But the odds have been suspiciously low since then. The odds to miss the orbs 8 times in a row are only 7%. And I did this 4 times in a row. That's about 1/1000 chances. I know the laws of rng, but still wonder if there is something I or ggg did wrong
I think the buffs to rare items have been great but I really would love to see 3.26 include across the board buffs for the 90% of uniques that hardly ever get used, much in the same manner we saw melee get fixed in virtually a single patch of 2-3x damage multipliers.
I'm with you. The worst part of farming him is sitting through the forced RP dialogue at the beginning. I find the actual fight mechanics consistent and predictable and less of a multi-taskey strain compared to maven or uber elder. He is more comfortable with builds that recover life primarily through regen rather than leech as well as ascendancies immune to slows like trickster or jugg.
Btw just want to say that the chaos to divine ratio on poe ninja is completely off. There's like 3-4 people with over 400 divine orbs price fixing 1200 chaos to 12 divines, and they are somehow making trades with someone to make it seem like their trade is moving but they will never trade to you. Price on faustus is closer to 135 and if you want to trade manually you'll probably only get a trade at 125c to 1 divine
I imagine the consumption of divines for recombinators is lower than the normal lock prefix / suffix reforge loop and overall less divines are being consumed crafting
There is not really a point for mists to cost more. That mechanic is barely usable and you most likely use dozens of locks and just 1 mist for the entire craft
Early league I used to farm veil orbs and would get 1 in 3 fights sometimes 2 in a row and now im 0/17 in. Might not be the best thing for a new player to do the unlucky streak hits hard. Back to harbs.
All Tier 0 uniques will give 1.5-1.6 million dust (always quality to 20%). Influenced Rakiata's Dance gives 2.6 million. All of the most efficient methods for retail dust are priced around 2 div / 1m dust. The entire market for T0 uniques and Omen of Fortune is priced around 50m shipments returning 2 mirror shards on average. It's not practical to generate 25 million dust "naturally" by dusting only self-found uniques, so the price of dust has increased steadily for weeks now. A few weeks ago, dust was 1.3-1.5 div per million and now it's 2-2.3. Spending 50 divs for the dust for a 50m shipment makes it not worth the risk of getting under 2 shards imo. I've been more aggressively dusting my own loot and shipping more crops to dust to avoid wasting money buying dust at retail prices.
@@discrep amazing info, thank you! I've been wondering about the breakpoints for dusting so far since I have yet to commit to a 50m, just been saving and dusting my own items while building crops for the big one. Sounds like I might as well continue this way and not worry about buying dust items after all.
@@tanklike4413 I'd say if you have 25-35m in crops and like 10m dust, it's worth spending a few divines to top up your shipment. If you had 25m crops and 0 dust, it's not worth spending 50 divs.
So far I got 2 mirror shards by sending shipments in the range of 200k to 300k. I think RNG did play a part in getting mirror shards by sending small shipments.
soon as you said "getting full rank 10 farmers" i switched off at this point ive spent millions of gold rolling for rank 10s, ive only ever seen 3 of them they were mappers that died doing yellow maps
9s can substitute in farming somewhat, but the shipments go out 3 times a month instead of 4. There's tens of thousands of people doing these big shipments, because the top end of the playerbase play a LOT now.
ironic that mirrors are finally less than a whole inventory of divines but we also no longer need to trade via inventory windows
This has been an incredible league for me. After 6.5k hours I was finally able to farm my first mirror! Thanks to them being cheaper. Feels good to have one just before POE2 hits.
I have 4 , i played 800 hours mostly hideout warrior.
@@pesteanvstefan5491cool.
@pesteanvstefan5491 Nice! I've always only played poe to make builds. Never cared about mirrors or crazy items. I love testing new things. But with poe2 coming I wanted a mirror on my account as part of my collection as it were. Pretty fun to have it!
@@pesteanvstefan5491 I don't care if I made 10 mirrors, I would never spend most of the league in my hideout. It defeats the purpose of playing the game at all.
First time i have ever farmed a mageblood.
First time i got 2 characters to 99, first time in half a decade i unlocked more than 2 totem stages.
Still playing.
Good league, good game.
What did you get your mage bloods from?
@@harborwolf22 divines. 290 of them.
@@kkplx good job! First time killing exarch here
High end farm is dead. Noob league
@@АнтонГаврилов-ц8е Poe is basically my second job but still farming for a mageblood because I hate gambling, so only got honest work that yields like 1-2 divines per day unless I get a random drop that now barely happens because no conversion mobs... Everything that's interesting to me has dirt cheap rewards or gambling. For example, currently, +100c for king of the mist fight or +500c if it has a jewel and I sell unid, or +60 div if the jewel identifies into energy shield. If I run 10 of those and don't get a jewel it's -1000c. Or if I get jewels and they don't identify into something useful, it's a -600c each. And many mechanics in current poe work like that. It was fine in affliction, because base drops were decent, but now it's just small and big gambas, starting with scarabs.
yeah kinda weird that a league mechanic focused on stealing does not give much gold...
Really good point there
@@sirgog could be interesting if rogue markers get discontinued and gold becomes the new heist currency, so faustus can retain his function in the future, if settlers become discontinued. and consiquentially heist will reward a good amount of gold for selling contract loot and just opening chests inside
syndicate too, hideouts should givce 20k gold if 83, also bosses of mechanics lvl 83 should give 20-25k gold when beating them
If gold remains in the game in some fashion, I would expect some sort of rebalance to that. It really is odd, isn't it?
If you mean heist, then yeah. Pretty strange.
A little correction: You CAN get Mirror Shards with small shipments, it is just much less likely. I can confirm this 100% because I got one myself.
Can confirm this. I got a mirror shard from a 5M shipment to the closest Karui port once.
Indeed, i got a mirror shard from a 500k shipment or something like that
I got a mirror shard from 500k shipments before the dust change
@@VeldrilI got my first mirror shard from 5 mil shipment too
confirmed. I am running the ZiggyD strat which is 700,000 shipments and I got a mirror shard from one
I would argue the following wrt to gold drop rates beyond this league -
1. Gold seems to be balanced around Kingsmarch farming, shipping and mapping rewards.
2. The most likely outcome at the end of the league is that Faustus goes core, and Kingsmarch doesnt.
3. This could potentially imply that gold drops across Wraeclast are nerfed, since there are fewer gold sinks in the game (only Currency Ex and Black Market)
4. This inturn leads to the Currency Ex feeling harder to use, since the gold costs are still pretty high.
Thematically, I'd prefer if Quant was replaced with a hybrid "Increased Gold Drops" and "Item Rarity" modifier, so that items like Greeds, Ventors and the Gold Flask are still ideal for raw Gold farming.
I would also like to see the Black Market gain a section for guaranteed Uniques for a ton more gold, because the current iteration doesnt see much use outside of leveling a new character. Aka it alone is not a sink enough for gold.
This is the first league I mirrored an item, and actually mirrored 2. I had builds worth 1-2 mirrors before but never actually had enough to burn 1 mirror into a single piece like this one.
I've gottten 2 Hinakora's locks from t16 maps, 0 mists.
Great vid, thanks. As always!
I just dropped my first one! From the pirate boss chest..I think on shore? Was amazing lol
Great league. I now sell everything that works via Faustus from 5c onward, fossils, scarabs and bulk buy scarabs to fit my strategy without the annoying player trading. Never had that much spare currency. Only things like cortex maps and chronicles collect dust in my stash.
Yeah about the gold drops, they're really uneven with only the natural mobs dropping well it's always a setback if I do a blueprint, blight maps or a mechanic that doesn't drop well. This should be balanced better as it's not really making sense. Also the immense amounts of ore I need for shipping would require mapping to no end, trying the challenge atm.
One thing I’d like to add is I’ve gotten a mirror shard from a 1.3ish million shipment. I’d guess I’ve sent maybe 20-25? Of these total but take that with a huge grain of salt as I have not been keeping track. I have also read comments of other people getting a mirror shard from 1.4 million shipments, but I can only be certain of what’s happened to me.
Yeah they CAN appear in smaller shipments but all research indicates you get WAY more mirror shards per shipment value in 50m ones. Like you might get 2.5 shards per 50m shipment, but only 1 shard per 100 1m shipments.
@@sirgog i didn't think about that but yeah, that aligns with my experience of only getting a single mirror shard out of the many 1.2-1.6 million shipments i've done. I guessed I've done 20-25 but it could reasonably be in 30s 35+ which I could have probably have done a 50 million shipment with crops+dust left over.
though, i do average a divine on each one, but that won't make up for the loss of mirror shards.
I hope they add map selling on the currency exchange with the next update. They can even limit it to normal maps and I’d be happy hehe
I have been watching your vids for awhile now and I have to ask, can you teach me how to dougie?
you get a like from me just for the early Ghostbusters reference :)
from what i've heard from other people specializing in math behind boats, You're not supposed to send more than 10 mil dust, it lowers results, from their trials ratio 4:1 yields 4-6 shards and closer to 1:1 result in 1-3
im a simple man, i see sirgod video, i click, i happy, stonks going up
I took a week off a couple weeks back and relog to see divine is worth next to nothing. Yet still only comes from league mechanics or rare raw drop. Economics in this game has been wild last year.
The point about the recombinator not causing divines to rise/stay higher in price is probably because using the recombinator effectively requires that extra level of game knowledge above what it takes to send out 50m shipments. That combined with the fact that the 50m shipments are a lot more reliable and steady income compared to gambling with the recombinator hoping for a big jackpot.
On a separate note why is the recombinator not given to us straight away as soon as we unlock kingsmarch? I would much rather be able to smash leveling items together to get useable stuff while leveling rather than the ships which give low amounts of bubblegum currency after waiting for 30 minutes if you use them early on. Just a thought
That thumbnail 15/10.
For someone starting late, say you got a HH to ease smashing content what route would you take for league strats to progress into t17 farming once you are geared?
sir sigrog, can u pls help me decide what build to try. This league i had Ls slayer (got so mad of bad defences and dying that i deleted the char), spectre necro (which is most powerful build i have rn but clear speed is not good), lacerate/EQ glad (very tanky, but only 3-4mil dps, also VFoS Jugg with phys to ele conversion (which i feel is meh), i want something with good clearspeed, something that cares about least amount of map mods and tanky(i love block and lucky block). Posion holy relic necro? Trickster something? budget around 50 div, i have more, but i dont like to spend unless build is worth it 100%.
thanks mate
what was the catalyst for the headhunter price crash? magebloods are still hold strong.
Card rarity
@@grippersrealm you can effectively trade up to a headhunter by only trading stacks of 8 Patient/Nurse/Doctor whichever is cheapest and eventually cash out Doctors. Only handicap is gold cost.
Faustus definitely has an effect on the chaos/div ratio. Everything you do with him is better with chaos. Why take bad rates with divines when you can simply instantly trade them for chaos and trade?
First league I got a mageblood drop so its a good league.
I like slightly more affordable mirrors, before if I dropped had a mirror I was gonna sell it no doubt, now I Might be able to afford to actually get 1 mirrored item for the first time so yea.. I love it..
Is it really only week 7? I'm already 40/40 challenges and got a mirror, feels like its been much longer...
I sort of don't get how buying T0s is cost-effective. If I'm buying Rakiata's Dance for 4div, and it's giving me 1844928 dust, that's about 108div for a full 50M shipment of dust. Obviously you're only sending 25M, but on a per-shipment-value-basis, your full shipments need to have an EV of >108div for buying dust to not put you in the red vs just waiting and shipping half as often (with entirely crops and no dust) but with more than twice the average net reward.
My interpretation for the high price of Awakener Orbs and Conqueror exalts is the challenge that requires you to use them.
Thats the first thing i thought too.
I am one of those people who got 0 mirror shards from a 50m shipment. Got 13 divines and 2 power runes and that was it. Lost money on that shipment.
If you're going to farm sirius, normal version is actually better than uber.
Uber will drop these massive threads of hope which are extremely common (he literally can't drop any other variant) and the bleed boots which can highroll to a 2-3 div i guess. With PERFECT rolls that is. Flask is cool i guess but it's also cheap this leauge.
Normal Sir will drop the gloves as the most common item and it's a fun gambling item, you could get a great 4 or 5 implicit combo on it and sell it for 10-20 divs. Threads of hope from Normal are pricier than Massive from uber actually. But much rarer too.
Awakeners orb and Orb of Dominance (elevated mod orb) are equal chances from both normal and uber sirius. And these drops will be the bulk of profits of sirius farming.
If you can't be arsed to grind conqueror maps yourself, just feed them to kingsmarch mappers. Scour them to white to ensure 100% completion rate. You'll get your boss fragmets for free.
How do you get poe ninja to show prices in divines and not just chaos?
reflecting mists.... have had close to a hundred and didnt get the item even once -.-
it's not 1 week.. also 20 mil dust isn't 2.5 mirror shards.
I found a veild orb on day 3ish. I was so hyped when I sold it for 5 div.... to bad I didn't hold it.
5 div on day 3 are worth more than 20 div right now.
isnt next league poe 2?
I think the big effect Faustus has had is in the devaluation of bubblegum currency. I was able to buy 500,000 chance orbs for only 5,000 chaos and im sure that ratio is even better now. Gold has put limits on this. That cost me 12.5 million gold. The larger gold cost is all the time i could have spent mapping, i have been using chance/scours 😂
Yeah, although that's been going on a while. Remember when regals were often 1c for a good while in a league, but that wasn't quite enough to bother with when you had 17 of them in your stash? But even 2 years ago, you didn't have 17 you had 230, and so you went and sold them (or others did first and they crashed the market)
I feel like shipping devalued gumball currency especially from the first few weeks when everyone was sending 5x5k crops and 8k dust six times per hour to riben fell. Those returned like 20-40x of everything below blessed/regal/regret per shipment. I hid everything below alts on my filter earlier than ever this league.
But what the hell have you been using half a million chance orbs for?
What happens next league when the league mechanic isn't giving us currency? Raw divine drops feel alot lower this league.
Not wrong if I didn't trade I'd be buggered mate because I've had 6 raw drops all league but I've got a 200 plus d build 😂
@@stephenblackie-fu1sru dont play much?
Done 15 Cat level 83 runs no veiled orb, a friend farmed 80 runs before he got his. Unlikely its 25-30% more like 10-15% or so based on other players. I think headhunter is trash but we can all disagree.
Red graph league, havent seen this before
unfathomably based sirus opinion. It's important that prominent people keep repeating this so that Mark never repeats a Sirus boss again xD
What makes me certain that Faustus will continue to be there is the unprecedented player retention and positive feedback combined with the vocal threat of forever leaving if he gets removed :'D
First 4-5 weeks player numbers were record breaking, now they are just high. TotA isn't core, and TotA did better on week 7 retention numbers than Settlers.
I'm curious about some of the other key metrics though - some that we don't see, such as where in progression people walk from a league. How many 40/40 + Mageblood accounts are there that have not logged in for 14 days? How many people crossed 12 challenges yesterday? Etc etc.
@@sirgog i got to a point in strength where i felt there was no value in getting any more upgrades around day 28ish, and that led me to logoff and not return. I think next league ill go back to playing off-meta garbage that always has meaningful upgrades and never gets to the point of "i easily destroy all content"
this is not certain, this league mechanic has implemented a way to get people to always come back to continue their ships or they feel like they're missing out. This can work for a bit but once people get bored and dont want to bother logging in every single day to keep up, they will let go completely. Then and only then will we see player retention drop very suddenly.
I wasn't aware people didn't like Sirus that much. I taught my friend how to do that fight and he's fallen in love with it. I'll have to let him know he can actually make some money off of it.
Even in affliction that boss printed divines. People hate it so much that its always worth doing. Personal experience of killing him enough to go insane.
@@matthewalvarez6884 My condolences. Explains why Bottled Faith is always so much. I get Progenesis being a fortune since Uber Mave is hard and a long fight, but Sirus never struck me as particularly hard, just kind of annoying.
The 3 or 4 Sirus enjoyers pogging out rn.
tbh, fun league, chaos deficit is sad, but otherwise fun league
Sirus catching strays
17 catarinas and zero orbs, 20% my ass
I killed 18 Catarina's, and got 0 veiled's. So i quit that garbage
sometimes its ever kata, sometimes its not, even 3-4 without, but i killing her all league, its really 25-30%
Do you like Jimmy Carr?
One time that investing into mirror shards wasnt that good.
Yeah, that definitely didn't pay off in this league
@@sirgog Well at least they are going into the pile for a mirror on standard! :D
buy the dip
Personally I'd go the other way (if I was focused on getting more wealth in league, which I'm not really). Chaos are too useful this league.
First time my mappers ran a T16, I found a mirror. Not a shard but a whole mirror. lol
Nice! I suspect the Kingsmarch mappers drop more mirrors and Hinelocks than other mechanics, but I'm not sure enough of that to conclude it for sure.
I been avg 5-7 mirror shard per 50mil ship
where/how do you get that much shipment? also in terms of dust, do you just buy t0 uniques to dust them?
@@rori354 I been doing 30/20 I do titanic and usually have a lot of uniques but I am useally short like 2-3 t0 unique I gotta buy
I'd say you're luckier than the avg by a good amount. I've gotten 4, 2, 2, 2 in my four shipments thus far.
I've been playing Poe for a while, and it's pretty obvious 3.25 was the end of the road for GGG
Poe 2 is forced-Ruthless, and that sh1t is DoA
This is simply too many leagues in a row now where players were not given anything to do. GGG/Rogers and Neon have such an adversarial and antagonistic approach to league-design and players are sick and tired of this sh1t.
Item being converted into gold, which you then have to wait hours and hours and hours to convert back into items??
Like, wtf is this sh1t?
Who thought this sh1t would be a good idea?
Are you kidding? Haven't you seen the incredible positive feedback that poe2 is getting? I've heard nothing but positive things from those who played it . POE 2 will destroy what is left of diablo. Poe 1 had to make changes because numbers were dropping and dropping and just the fact that this league has had incredible retention numbers, tells you all you need to know.
I've never seen someone so angry and yet so intent on self-censoring
I know you are saying 'sharded', but I keep hearing 'sharted'. Grow up, me
Man i sold my mirror too soon! I only got 550 divines.
Lol the savage but completely appropriate sirus insult. Excellent.
"insult". People became so soft so any word is heard as insult.
9:18 hope they add gold drop to these mechanics and masters as well
Gold's in a really weird spot atm where there's a few mechanics that are just best at it. Certain objectives - completing Delve nodes and Heists among them - could do with increases.
a full simu only gives 10k its quite sad
@@kleinequalle8128 and the absolute majority of it comes just from Omni and Kosis.
I had a late league start, in that I finished the campaign less than an hour ago. This was just what I needed to get caught up on the league economy--thanks!
how boring and small talking all that crap to sirus.
First
second!
I sent 1 50M shipment and realized my mappers in one week dont bring in as much currency as one ship. Yes it takes a week to farm that amount of weed but farmers cost like half of running just one set of mappers. since i'm not running mappers 1M gold is enough for nearly a week.
If you need Dust, a mageblood gives 2.1M dust, just a fun fact
100% not playing 3.26 if GGG removes the currency exchange! Best thing they have ever added, that and 3 atlas pages!
25-30% drop rate for veiled orbs???
I’m at 1-18 right now, FWIW
25m crop ships with low amount of dust also generates 1 mirror shard very often , for the people not able / dont want to buy t0 uniques.
12:00 yeahhhh thats me :DD, i've ran about 400 uber sirus this league and it has been lucrative, i did it about 2 weeks ago though so i think it makes less money now
25 to 35% drop rate on catarinas ? I did 20+ catarinas early league and dropped none. That was my last time running her
5-6m been really profitable for me 2 miror shard and 3 power runes in 7 shippment
2.5 mean nothin to me always max
The thumbs are crazy lol😅
I'm new, whats wrong with Sirrus?
25% drop rate on veiled orb sounds generous. I get one in about every 9th :S and it wasnt the longest streak without any...
Same. Early League I had a ratio of 30-40% on my first 20 Catarinas. Same numbers I had in 3.24.
Since then it's only been 3 veiled orbs in 40 Catarinas. I really wonder if it wasn't silently nerfed in 3.25.1
sometimes its ever kata, sometimes its not, even 3-4 without, but i killing her all league, its really 25-30%
I got 1 in my first cata this league. You underestimate the fact that you can get unlucky in a row. It's not like you get the orb after 3-4 runs guaranteed.
@@GE_Photon_Lord nono i like betrayal and i have had it on my atlas tree ever since it was introduced. This leage i had shit luck with it - but basically i got 5 veiled orbs in 40-50 katas. I wold have preferred a streak of veiled orbs instead of teh opposite tho.
@@GE_Photon_Lord I also got 1 in my first cata this League. Then 3 in a row at some point. But the odds have been suspiciously low since then. The odds to miss the orbs 8 times in a row are only 7%. And I did this 4 times in a row. That's about 1/1000 chances. I know the laws of rng, but still wonder if there is something I or ggg did wrong
lol Veilied orb droprate is not 25-35% Its more like 5%
Absolutely not 5%
I think the buffs to rare items have been great but I really would love to see 3.26 include across the board buffs for the 90% of uniques that hardly ever get used, much in the same manner we saw melee get fixed in virtually a single patch of 2-3x damage multipliers.
We had a hundred buffed in Kalandra
12:12 hey that's me, i find sirus pretty good, i never understood all the hate
Found one! It's gotta be lucrative this league.
@@sirgog well, i've been glued to catarina, evert time i want to branch out the veiled orb goes up in price 🫠
Boo this man, BOOOO!!! 😂
jkjk
I'm with you. The worst part of farming him is sitting through the forced RP dialogue at the beginning. I find the actual fight mechanics consistent and predictable and less of a multi-taskey strain compared to maven or uber elder. He is more comfortable with builds that recover life primarily through regen rather than leech as well as ascendancies immune to slows like trickster or jugg.
People are also using chaos to roll strongboxes for steam of mobs for gold
Yep, although that can also be scour-alched (which is basically free this league)
But annoying and lots of players will pay for convenience@@sirgog
@@sirgog that is the economic friendly way to do it but most people are still using chaos because it's one click instead of 4
Btw just want to say that the chaos to divine ratio on poe ninja is completely off. There's like 3-4 people with over 400 divine orbs price fixing 1200 chaos to 12 divines, and they are somehow making trades with someone to make it seem like their trade is moving but they will never trade to you. Price on faustus is closer to 135 and if you want to trade manually you'll probably only get a trade at 125c to 1 divine
I imagine the consumption of divines for recombinators is lower than the normal lock prefix / suffix reforge loop and overall less divines are being consumed crafting
Love these recaps. Economics and video games are such a great combination
There is not really a point for mists to cost more. That mechanic is barely usable and you most likely use dozens of locks and just 1 mist for the entire craft
best league
My first 50mil shipment, 35mil crops, 15mil dust roughly, 0 mirror shards. Same shipment btw, 6 divs, 1 power rune.
0 shards isn't rare
3 out of 10000 enjoying the Sirus fight might be stretching it...
There's one who has mentioned in comments that they like it already!
I sent off 32m got 2 mirror shards yesterday so idk
This seems pretty typical of larger shipments. Not aware of any big tests of 30m vs 50m but most people seem to be settling upon "one 50m a week" now.
Divines back to 120-130. I missed the dip
I expect it'll go the other way again. Chaos too useful right now.
So it dips now because supply of Chaos gets lower faster than supply of divine? The "divine crash" at end of league is always a mystery for me...
Early league I used to farm veil orbs and would get 1 in 3 fights sometimes 2 in a row and now im 0/17 in. Might not be the best thing for a new player to do the unlucky streak hits hard. Back to harbs.
I'm one of the 14997 people hating Sirius fight 😜
7:28 damn, divinarius sharts into a huge amount of dust. Noted
All Tier 0 uniques will give 1.5-1.6 million dust (always quality to 20%). Influenced Rakiata's Dance gives 2.6 million. All of the most efficient methods for retail dust are priced around 2 div / 1m dust. The entire market for T0 uniques and Omen of Fortune is priced around 50m shipments returning 2 mirror shards on average. It's not practical to generate 25 million dust "naturally" by dusting only self-found uniques, so the price of dust has increased steadily for weeks now. A few weeks ago, dust was 1.3-1.5 div per million and now it's 2-2.3. Spending 50 divs for the dust for a 50m shipment makes it not worth the risk of getting under 2 shards imo. I've been more aggressively dusting my own loot and shipping more crops to dust to avoid wasting money buying dust at retail prices.
@@discrep amazing info, thank you! I've been wondering about the breakpoints for dusting so far since I have yet to commit to a 50m, just been saving and dusting my own items while building crops for the big one. Sounds like I might as well continue this way and not worry about buying dust items after all.
@@tanklike4413 I'd say if you have 25-35m in crops and like 10m dust, it's worth spending a few divines to top up your shipment. If you had 25m crops and 0 dust, it's not worth spending 50 divs.
So far I got 2 mirror shards by sending shipments in the range of 200k to 300k. I think RNG did play a part in getting mirror shards by sending small shipments.
I managed to self farm 7 mirror shards early, then I realized its nothing this league...( my ships didnt give me any loot the entire league lul ).
Can the mist get all 3 positive? Such as simplex amulet u always get 1-2 up and 1 negative?
it can
soon as you said "getting full rank 10 farmers" i switched off
at this point ive spent millions of gold rolling for rank 10s, ive only ever seen 3 of them they were mappers that died doing yellow maps
9s can substitute in farming somewhat, but the shipments go out 3 times a month instead of 4. There's tens of thousands of people doing these big shipments, because the top end of the playerbase play a LOT now.
Are you using the upgraded reroll? There's just no way you have spent "millions" and only gotten 3
Headhunters are hundreds of divines on Xbox.
The cheapest listed one right now is 199 divine.