Innov K2 Dual Motorcycle Camera Fitting
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- Fitting of the Innovv K2 Dual Motorcycle Camera to a BMW R1250GS.
Initial fitment has an issue, so watch to the end to see the full outcome!
Innovv K2 Dual Camera Kit - amzn.to/2CJAngU
Hi All
Below are various links to kit I use or items referenced in this video.
These are amazon.co.uk (United Kingdom) links and clicking through and purchasing does earn me a small commission and costs you nothing extra.
I'd be really grateful if you are buying any of these if you used the links and help support the channel.
Thank you
Nick
Accessories on (or used for) My R1250GS
Horn
Denali Soundbomb Horn - amzn.to/2qUA4Ni
Battery Charger (Dual Standard Connect and Canbus - Fits Din Socket to charge)
Optimate 4 - BMW Canbus Edition - amzn.to/2phUAXN
Din/USB Twin Outlet Adapter
Optimate Dual USB Charger - 3300mA DIN Plug - amzn.to/2CJEl99
Tank Bag
Givi ST602 Sport Tanklock Bag - amzn.to/2CGK13G
Tanklock Ring for above (R1200/1250GS) - amzn.to/2QmYXvR
Motorcycle Dryer
Bruhl MD1400 1400W Motorcycle Dryer - amzn.to/33NGA79
Protection
ACF50 Rust Protector (with buddy bottle, aerosols are poor) - amzn.to/2NKL5tJ
Clothing I wear
Crash Helmet
Shoei Neotec II - amzn.to/2rKw8zk
Waterproof Jacket (Over Rukka Textile)
Tucano Urbano Nano Rain Jackket - amzn.to/2NNCnLe
Waterproof Trousers (Over Rukka Textile)
Tucano Urbano Nano Rain Trousers - amzn.to/33ZCed6
Equipment I use to film videos
Main Helmet Camera
Go Pro Hero 7 Black - amzn.to/2CKUmvo
Mirror Mounted (rear-facing) Camera
SJ Cam SJ4000 - amzn.to/377slwc
Fixed Front and Rear Cameras (supplementary footage)
Innovv K2 Dual Camera Kit - amzn.to/2CJAngU
Adapter needed to add supplimentary mics to GoPro Hero 5/6/7/8
GoPro Microphone Adapter - amzn.to/378aSU8
Case for mounting GoPro and Mic Adapter
Ulanzi Multi-purpose GoPro Case - amzn.to/32JIkgA
BOTH MICS below have leads for Mobile Phone (to use GoPro Adapter with these you need a TRS to TRRS Adapter)
Rode Phone Accessory (TRS to TRRS Adapter) - amzn.to/2CHKJh1
Helmet Microphone (needs GoPro Adapter) and Tie-pin mic Indoors
Aufgeld Lavalier Microphone - amzn.to/375WVpX
Indoor Microphone (GoPro and Phone Cameras)
Rode Micro Compact - amzn.to/2KlXUZn - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Thanks Nick. Just bought a black R1250GS and have been using your videos as a guide as not only what I want to do to mine, but also how to do it.
Ride safe Warren and enjoy the 1250
Great work Nick, Thanks for taking time to do such a detailed video......
RetiredAtenPilot Glad you liked it
Very nice video Nick! Very clear and full of details. You alway add knowledge to our R1250 GS life!! I really want to thank you for that!
Thank you Camillo. That’s very kind of you and ride safe 👍🏻
Very nice work. Well done!
This is one of the best instructional videos I have ever seen. Very well done :)
Thank you Dale. Glad you enjoyed it
Great video, thanks for the detailed info about fitting on your bike.
No worries, thanks for watching and commenting
Brilliant video so helpful, now have the confidence to fit my own.
Nice Nick .......and I thought my bike (BMW R1100R) was the only invisible BMW on the road!! That looks a quality bit of kit. Safe riding. Steve
Good video, Nick. Made life easy for me and my install. Only difference I did, was to fit the GPS in the small recess, under the plastic cover, just in front of the fuel filler cap. So it stays horizontal as per instructions. Plenty of cable, so no issues.
Paul Lewis perfect. Glad it helped. Good idea with the GPS unit. I don’t seem to have much issue with mine I have to say. It’s not too tough to do really. Just slowly and carefully. Try and keep the clips to the default 5 minutes. It’s a bit of a pain as it creates so many clips but downloading a specific clip via WiFi (slow as molasses in January) is easier and i have the odd clip freeze so the ‘reset’ that happens as clips change seems to reset it. Much of freezing issues have gone away though by careful choice of micro SD
A Heads Up from Tea Pot.... great channel... Looking at GS Rallye HP at the moment... absolutely superb content here... Looking forward to your new bike day....
Cheers Adrian. It’s watch this space 👍🏻
Thanks for the video. Off to the garage 👍
Thanks Steve. Have fun
Nick that is a really interesting, and instructional video. Really well structured, informative and educational. I am really interested in the INNOV technology, and in the 1250, so absolutely hit the mark. My only gripe is your sound level, which is variable, but mostly too low. Had to crank up the output to crazy levels just to catch what you were saying. But all in all, a really helpful video, thanks very much.
Thanks Peter. I’m learning as I go so I’ll improve but thanks for the comment it’ll be used to make it better 👍🏻
I used your tutorial to install my Innovv, thanks Nick! I believe the Innovv UK site uses it as well so nice one Nick!
Iain Ian thanks Iain. Glad it worked for you. Yes I get linked from .co.uk and .com
Hey dudes no one cares about night video recording quality, dealing with video files and GPS data which are the most important things why people need a dash cam on a motorbike!
Bill Admond I care Bill. What are you seeking?
@@nickhodgeUK I believe that since these dash cams aren't suited for environment shootings so people would need them for backup against insurers' scams.
The most important things in these gadgets are good night recording and especially number plates also the GPS is very important too.
I also heard stories about other people's dash cams stopping recording, not sure if it's this INNOV or the other China gadget which is the only alternative to this one in your review.
Bill Admond Bill. Thanks for coming back. I have only had this one so comments restricted to that. This has good night vision. Certainly if a number plate is illuminated with headlight or street light it is. Obviously it is an orange tinted light generally but perfectly adequate for evidence. The GPS module is separate, with a long lead. This is good as you are able to site it where it can capture a good signal. Mine is under a plastic side cover and tested fully to make sure I get 100% signal. That’s important to do. I checked this when I got caught speeding and it read exactly to the police camera!!!! The issue with file locks. It does happen. I had it. Most people buy cheap cards but dash and are a different recorder. Looping over and over. For this reason follow the cards suggested by INNOVV. That’s what I’ve done and had no issues since. Many manufacturers also make dashcam specific cards. I’m happy with my purchase. As a recreational video camera not quite so go as the WiFi transfer is just too slow (you have to remove the card under a two-screw waterproof panel) but for evidence you aren’t worried about removing the card at all. Maybe just check by downloading a file once a week or as part of your ride ‘put away’ routine to make sure it’s still working as whatever card it will eventually give up. Hope that helps?
hi Nick. Zunaid again. you might have seen my other reply for the Denali video. Anyway, I am really following your bike builds and copying most of your installs and accessories.
I also bought the innov k2.
thinking of waiting for denali stuff to arrive and do one install for both innov and Denali?
Might be easier to run cables when the plastics are all off.
thanks so much for taking the time for such a detailed video. safe riding bud
Zunaid Kajee absolutely I would do both together. Take your time taking the plastic panels off and you’ll be surprised how neat you can make it and get plenty of cable ties.
Very well done video.
Mikey thank you. Glad you liked it
Mate, now that was brilliant, blowing the horn at the Old Bill.. Classic move of a proper hooligan lol...
She got the same treatment as anyone who pulls out on me. That’s equality 😂 great thing is I had the footage if she wanted to contest it 👍🏻
Looks like you are in the lane for turning right. Then move into the left hand lane far too late. Think it is fair to say the police assumed you were turning right? Very short clip so can't see if there are obstructions in the left lane.
@@Hermonvstrom IMO lane position doesn’t outweigh a left indicator which is clearly displayed. I can’t remember lane markings or even if both were marked as that exit??? She was opportunist and dangerous, proven I suspect by the fact she didn’t stop me over the next mile or so I sat behind her?
Nice video. I was thinking of getting this camera for my 1250 GS after my 4-year-old Roadhawk Bullet cam died on me on my Norway trip recently. I had that fitted on the beak where it joins the black plastic concave section. No vibration and good tour videos. Hope for the same from the Innov.
Mike, thanks for commenting. I think that would work. I just don't like drilling or putting anything on I can't remove without leaving 'evidence'. Would you use a pad to 'stick' it, or drill a hole?
@@nickhodgeUK 3m stick it worked fine on the old camera's bracket, I will do the same with this and see how it goes. I removed the old 3m with floss ribbon.
Thanks for posting this. Now I know where your tracker is fitted? Mine is somewhere different!
My front camera is mounted next to the nearside indicator on a GoPro type bracket, although I have the older Innov plastic clip, inferior to what you have.
All the best,
Nick in Knutsford.
p.s.I find some of the comments people make pretty "offensive", in the sense that you are doing your best.....
Nick Laskaris Thanks for the comment Nick. I wish the front beak mounting would have been stable as it’s such a good view. I thought of a GoPro Mount that you can get by the headlight but they have such a wide viewing angle I suspect you’d see something. Not that that matters I guess. People will always be critical. I find it strange that people ‘dislike’ videos that someone has made quite a bit of effort to film and edit, for free and they hit a dislike button but hey ho. Best comment as sometimes sound is an issue is ‘your sound is so quiet”. My typed answer “Thanks for your comment”, my heads answer... “Turn up your volume”. Ride safe
Very informative, thanks. I also have an R1250GS but I must admit I'm nervous about the level of dismantling required to route the cables.
I get that Richard. But slowly does it and push the bolts into expanded polystyrene with the drawing of the panel on. It’s not tough but I used to be a motorcycle mechanic in the 70’s/80’s so maybe it’s something I learned??? Certainly would want a half dismantled bike because of me. Good luck and ride safe
@@nickhodgeUK Well, with the help of this video (and a couple of others), I have managed to consume a few hours of lockdown time by fitting the Innovv system to my R1250GS. I took my time and it was quite painless in the end. Now I just need an extended ride to give it a proper test!
Richard D love comments of success Richard. Well done and glad it helped
well done, thank you.
Thank you Hamid
Very informative indeed! I got the denalis also in my 1250 GSA so very much help for me. Not happy with the Innovv picture quality though.
Hi jussi. Glad it helped. Watch this space for innovv update
top video and sound
Thank you
better than my camera. thanks for the video, in the future Id appreciate if you could make separate vid max few min long of the camera footage :) nothing personal , just save time for peeps who don't need installation , or a time button , something .
Jensen Gooduuyn Jensen. Thanks for the comment. It’s certainly an ide with install video ‘this is how it ended up’ type of think. It’s always a balance. I want to do a ‘deep dive’ TFT one but that would probably be an hour long. I’m finding under 30 minutes is the sweet spot for any video, but I get the point of ‘ I just want to know what the camera footage is like to fit one to my Honda’ the install but is no use? The only thing I would say is hopefully there’s a few ‘universal’ tips along the way. Like GPS mounting, etc. Ride safe
Ok Nick. Just have to say. I got the same dash cam system for my GSA but have not installed it yet has here in Sweden it's not bike riding weather until the spring next year :-( But for me I like your video's because maybe without knowing, you give out some small, but important detail here about how you did your install. Example is when you said that you changed over where you put the the DC unit. You talked about the seat height and that you had yours in `High´. I have mine in `Low´ has I am no where near your hight. But it's these small details about the wiring & the seat hight is what other TH-camrs don't include, that is why I like your vid's. Please make more.
Biker Boy thanks a lot for watching and taking the time to comment (particularly in English!). Really glad you find them useful. I hope to do many more, including the TFT, a 1-year review and some rides. It’s getting toward less riding here too although if it’s dry I’ll be out!! rida säkert
@@nickhodgeUK Cheers Nick! I am still watching the vis (test drive part now). I'm from Coventry! But here they say `Kör säkert´ which means drive carefully for both cars and bikes. But 9. out for 10 for that mate!
Biker Boy ha ha. Coventry no wonder English was good!
Nick Nice Video I noticed you have some Rukka on, can you do a review on your gear, please? Great video
I'll try and get around to it Tinashe. Thanks for the comment
great video - tnx :)
No worries Jacek. Hope it helps 👍🏻
Nice mention from teapot one on his video for you.
I saw that James 😂👍🏻
top video mate
Ricky mullane thanks Ricky
Great video, Nick. Nice attention to detail on the installation. One question, any problems receiving satellites with the GPS antenna mounted inside the cover? I always thought it has to be mounted someplace exposed to the sky.
If I'm honest I've not really had much need to use it but just checked the 3 clips I have on the phone and they all have full GPS data. I think you should get it as close to open as possible and others have made comment they've done this but in fairness it's a pretty thin plastic cover and is not near any other interference I guess. Not sure that answers, but I have data for sure on all clips I have on phone. Ride Safe
The avenue in Southampton 😁👍🏻
Indeed, but now single lane in each direction with emergency cycleway and down to 30mph makes it muuuuuccccchhhhhh longer 😂
Looks like a very easy install. I really like the concept of it always being on in the case of an accident, but I would imagine one would not use this as a dedicated Vlogging Cam...or would I be mistaken.
Thanks for the install information.
2Wheel4Fun certainly not an ‘only’ vlogging cam as they are 1080 (not sure bad in itself) but no image stabilisation. But they do offer valuable additional footage
Question for you Nick- do you get a lot of light from the turn signals interfering with the video on your rear camera? Thanks for a great video!
Joel Landau Joel. Don’t really ride the bike in the dark which would be the worse situation I guess. But just simulated it in shed and it seems fine. Here’s a link (I’ll remove in a week) th-cam.com/video/v3Xt8nXHfXw/w-d-xo.html
Another great video Nick. Where did you get the camera kit from and how much? I went to see my new 1250GSA yesterday as I got a call saying it arrived. I didn't see it though as the salesman was off sick and knowbody knew where my bike was. O well. I love seeing what you keep adding to yours. I'll probably do the same. It's like you show me the next thing I need Haha. What tracker do you have then? How much is that?
The camera is from Innovv.co.uk and was pretty expensive at £285 but i think it's about the best there is. Reckon they're just teasing you with the bike ;)
sorry forgot second question. I have a Trakking Adventure unit. So far, so good and fitted by dealer pre-delivery
Great video, thank you. I'm about to buy one, even though a tad nervous about fitting it to my R1200GS, but I have a eZcan, so fingers crossed. Cheers, Mark
You’ll be fine Mark. Prepare, take it slowly and mark the bolts where they come from. You have a head start with the ezycan. Good luck 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Thanks Nick for the advice, I'm just debating whether to wire the same as you or power the whole thing via the Hex unit, if that can be done.
Hampstead Motorcyclists you could use the power from the EzyCan I would think? Not sure the draw needed. I used the INNOVV power supply as it was supplied and fitted nicely. I just used the live switching from my EzyCan (CanSmart is a Denali badged EzyCan)
@@nickhodgeUK I was going to use the INNOVV power unit but rather than powering from the battery, running all of it from the Hex. Mine has a specific Accessory channel. I have my spots, horns and Danali brake lights running through it. On the other hand, if the Hex unit fails, they all fail, so perhaps I should run it all separate from the hex altogether. On a different note, I've been looking at buying it today, it seems a bit cheaper on Amazon and listed as "The 2019 Model" but if something goes wrong, perhaps it's better to buy directly from the INNOVV website.
Hampstead Motorcyclists i bought mine direct from INNOVV UK and as I use footage for videos as well which practically means removing three very small screws. They sent me some spares. (Not lost one yet mind!) take note of recommended cards too as some don’t like too much read/write. They list them on their site. They are more expensive but much more reliable
Great video! Thanks! I just got my K2 and am going to install it soon. I noticed in my mounting parts (and I think I saw them in your bags too) there are 3 rubber washers in each bag that I assumed were to reduce vibration on the the 3 hex bolts that connect the mount together. I did not see you use these rubber washers, wondering why?
I presume that too John only it appears the camera mounts better without them. Seems it relies upon the clamp being tight to stop it moving. I’ve found so far, firm fixing onto firm bike part but I’d be interested to know if something else worked for you 👍🏻
Thanks for the reply Nick! I guess when I actually start mounting to the bike I will determine if I use the rubber washers. They seem a little bulky in my preassembly, so I will wait !
Nice video and expression how to install... Just a quick question, how have you recorded your sound while riding the bike with gopro? thank you...
Ibrahim. Thanks for the comment. I use a mix of GoPro (there’s a video I did for this) and the K2 although the K2 is a bit muffled and rumbly although never windy
Nick - great video - thanks. For backgrounds that include computer hardware, your workmanship in keeping things organized and manageable is commendable.
I have a question though: I looked at your video to see what your system has over using two simple Wi-Fi Dash Cams and ones Iphone to set them to loop every 5 mins.
I have not worked everything out yet, but things are looking good. Meantime, I was wondering, what advantages does the Innovv K2 Dual Motorcycle Camera have over some wifi based dashcams?
Thanks for reading this -
I’ve not used WiFi based dash cams so unfair to comment. Of course fitting would be easier but I would worry about speed of transmission (maybe the cameras are limited to 720p with a low bit rate??). Also I would worry about interference in some applications (eg the new BMW RT uses on bike WiFi for Nav, etc). Having used the K2 and now K3 although it trickier to wire them (at least to wire them neatly), you know they are working in 1080p 100% of the time and in 3 years never failed me 🤞🏻👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Thanks for your reply - I got 1080, . It does appear to delay by a half second, where if using as a blind spot indicator via the iphone on the handle bars, that could trigger peripheral vision I figure, as I never look other than the road - How ever detection is done, for me, it will take time to also trust, as always assuming to look directly, when not seeing vehicles in the mirrors, which is at least a second left and a second right -
@@nickhodgeUK One WIFI barrel camera was NG on reliable hotspot visibility for its app, so will be testing another. In the meantime, I have the rear mount done with a micros usb for its 5 v power. when selecting a second camera. based on the first.
Enjoyed your video. I have a R1250GSA as well. I have a Hex ezCan GenII already installed on my bike that has an open channel. I’m wondering why you chose to attach just the power signal wire to your Hex instead of powering the Innovv system from the Hex. Is there a reason it needs to be powered from the battery?
I wanted to use the Innovv power box as it’s built to control the unit. If you look down the comments you’ll see someone experiencing issue with powering from the Canbus controller. Not sure if that was real but just use the switching on mine and it works well.
If you have a headlight protector, try attaching your front camera to the one of the top brackets. I have a similar system and don't get any vibration.
Thanks Frederick. I keep searching. The only thing there is do you not get quite a lot of beak and such in?
@@nickhodgeUK you don't get any of the beak at all. It's just high enough and far enough forward, you don't catch any of the bike. I by some chance you do catch some of the beak, the camera might be angled too far down instead of straight. The worst case scenario is you might barely catch the beak at the very bottom of the image, but it doesn't really affect anything. I'd send you a pic of my setup is this chat would let me.
Frederick Raffaelli thanks Frederick could you send it to nick (at). nickhodge (dot). (co). (dot). (uk). Thanks
Great video! So you just stick the yellow wire from the DC converter into the CANsmart? No welding? No electrical tape? No nothing?
Hi Alvaro. If you have the CanSmart then yes. All the DVR unit needs through the yellow wire is a signal when the ignition is on/off. The bike’s Canbus system has a delay in shutting down which the DVR unit needs to write the last file to the card, but even if you don’t have CanSmart/Canbus the Innovv power supply will store some energy from the battery to do that anyhow. So red to battery, black to battery and yellow to CanSmart or tap into any wire that comes on with ignition 👍🏻
Nice one Nick. I to have fitted a INNOVV K2 to my R125GSA but learned something new from your video. My GPS unit is beside the DVR and this may explain intermittent signal.
Have you tried streaming to your phone? I have in both 1080 and 720 but find streaming unuseable. It is terribly slow and juttering along.
Hi Declan. I think there are a few things beyond its capability as anything much other than an evidential unit sadly but maybe in the future we’ll get stabilisation for sure. Not too worried about streaming or at this stage 4K either. Welcome along and ride safe
@@nickhodgeUK Reply from INNOVV:
"I want to confirm that the playback is not smooth after the video is downloaded or the online browsing is not smooth.
If you online browsing is not smooth, Sometimes yes, Wifi itself has a delay and a limit to transferring data, so it is best to download it to phone or watch it through SD card."
Declan Ward cheers Declan for the update. The video once downloaded is smooth as a non-stabilised video device might offer. I use Sandisk Ultra cards for all my recording devices but don’t need a streaming device although the download to device is painfully slow and to remove the SD card is three screws so you have to want to do it! I will drop one of those damn miniature screws one day 😂
Hi Nick, quick Q&A
Does the blue light stay on at the power converter. And did you need to extend the live feed to reach battery. Mine very short.
Hi Nick. I think you have the new power supply as mine doesn’t have the light. I think it should stay on the idea being it finishes recording and powers down gently so it doesn’t corrupt the last file (which my be one you need). My cables reach fine with the power supply on the ECU which is just above the battery compartment. There’s another video of me fitting my unit on my new bike too (re-farkling my BMW R1250GS Adventure) which may help or look up the fitting by @teapotone as his is more recent and may have the new power supply 👍🏻
Hello Nick and thanks for the useful video.
I know it's a little time since you posted this video, but can you remember if when fitting the DC power converter under the seat height adjuster to the battery terminals, were you able to just thread them through or did you need to unscrewing of parts and lift things out of the way?
Thanks again!
No. The routing to battery and backward to the DVR was all done with just battery removal and patience. Take the blade fuse out of the waterproof holder. Fold the lid over AND TAPE IT TO THE SIDE OF THE HOLDER. This makes it its smallest and stops the little bit of rubber that holds them together from snapping
@@nickhodgeUK Thank Nick, really appreciate your time!!
@@stags-gr8to BTW there is another video with me Re-farkling stuff, including that on my GSA if that gives any more clues? 👍🏻
Thanks Nick, I'll take a look :-)@@nickhodgeUK
On another note Nick........how are you enjoying your GSA? Now that you've had it a little while, although I appreciate you probably haven't used it as much as you would have liked, due to what's been going on..........I have a GS and sometimes wonder how much better, or different the GSA would be?
Thanks for a wonderful video. Interesting product, however it falls short not providing a screen and only acts as an archiving system. There are many systems on the market that have all the K2 functionality but also provide a TFT screen to see the camera live. Yes, the documentation of a possible accident is the goal. I also want to use the rear camera as a rearview to cover my blind spots the side mirrors don't provide. Sadly, I can't find a system that allows you to flop the camera's image. Why? Well, when you mount the camera on the back, the image on the screen is flopped. So when you see a car on what you think is the left, in reality it's on the right. That is really confusing and more dangerous than no view at all.
It depends what you want. I seldom use the video for recreational use and only occasionally look at it at all. Maybe to send a mate some images or to see a near-miss, etc. I certainly would t want more distraction with a viewer. What I would say with INNOVV units is the build quality for the rugged motorcycle environment is very good 👍🏻
What settings on recording are you using?
The video you are sharing, is it the downloaded video to the phone and then to the PC for edition? or you put the SD card to the PC for better quality video avoiding the download to the phone?
I’m using 1080p/30fps and taking the card out. Data transfer rates from unit to phone via WiFi are only practical for 1 video of default length (5 mins). Even then it’s painful and a significant drain on bike battery with ignition and other stuff on while you do it
@@nickhodgeUK Cheer man!
I will get that camera!
Great video nick, TeapotOne gave me your link, he mounted his front camera on top of the beak, did you try this?
I tried it under the beak and it was a perfect position but it ‘resonated’ and vibrated but in didn’t try different brackets as I thought it was beak vibrating more than camera brackets 👍🏻
Are those real USB C connections???? wow impressive!
Yep.
Another useful video Nick. I have a couple of observations if that's ok? Firstly can you edit the video as you've told any perspective bike thief just where your tracker is! I have had both the Early Innov and a Roadhawk ride moto+ camera on both my 1200 GS' and found the best place I could think of was on the grey L shaped bracket on the front fairing by the RH indicator so if you're still not happy with where it is you could try that. As far as the side panels either side of the battery in concerned, it's easier to take out the Torx bolt then pivot the panel up and forward from the rear so the front securing lug stays where it is and the bottom rear rubber sleeve slides up and off the steel pin. If you look at the front lug it's shaped with a flat on it and once you've lifted the rear you can then pull the panel off towards you if that makes sense?
Hi Adrian. Thanks for the comment. I’ll check out the side panel piece when I’ve digested it 😂 the front camera is OK for its purpose I think was just so happy when nothing of the bike was in view. It’s only a small part of beak but I’ll look where you mean. On the tracker. Not to worried. It’s the tracker BMW recommend and in fact they even have fitting location and wiring plug for it, so many are in the same place. It’s a bugger to get to though and if it loses power it triggers anyhow. My bike has the factory fitted alarm, the tracker, the jog setting on the INNOVV, datatag microdots,etchings, etc all my mates have is a chain but as they say “they’ll be safe chained to mine!” I guess we all stand to lose our bikes to theft but randomly, at home it’s secured indoors behind two massive locks but when away I prefer outside storage to undercover as it would hopefully be obvious something was wrong as they try to take it, or disable security??? (I also take my Oxford cover just to keep prying eyes away. I reckon as with most things, if someone wants it, they’ll have it. Your comments are very valid of course and thanks for them, just that’s my take
Hi there I have just purchased this k2 camera set for my Honda dn-01 but can you give me some advice where to put the front n back camera as I have asked a few ppl n they don't know
Sorry I don’t know the bike Jason but there’s generally somewhere to fit it. Be hind indicator mountings, mudguard mounting. You just have to search around I’m afraid. The brackets are pretty flexible for siting. Good luck
Nick . Just a quick query. Now that you have had a few months to analyse things, the location of the GPS unit, does it cause any issue? Having downloaded the Innov instructions I note their comment about placement. Also advice from elsewhere suggest a definite need to keep it exposed and level. Not keen on the exposed position if I'm honest. About to install my own camera so keen to establish 'best practice'. Thanks in advance.
I’ve had no problem I have to say. It’s away from the power supply and DVR which may help. I just know every time I’ve used the footage on videos I’ve always had the speed at the bottom. If you’re unsure I also thought up under beak frame assembly (in cockpit) using a 3M sticker or Velcro? Good luck
Nick Hodge Thanks Nick for the quick reply. I hope to get mine sorted today. That’s another option to consider. Cheers and stay safe.
Very clear instruction, shame about the price though.
It is ‘top end’ for sure but about the best out there I feel?
Can you keep camera on for continued view so you can see while you are riding like mirror?
If you mean can you view it through the app for live view then no. The bit rate of transfer is very slow. The unit does record continuously though
Hi Nick. How do you extract the video from the unit? Do you have to get the seat out each time to get to the DVI unit and get the card out?
If I want to use for recreational footage yes. Only takes a couple of minutes and I keep a small screwdriver in the toolkit under seat. I always put waterproof cover back on but debatably mounted where it is if that’s needed. I did get Steve from INNOVV UK to kindly send me a bag of the little grub screws and as I have them of course I’ve never lost one yet 😂. For evidentially (e.g my speeding footage) I just downloaded via. App and WiFi as I knew time and files are named by date/time
That’s only rear seat of course BTW
@@nickhodgeUK Thanks, Nick.
Hello Nick, wondering if you could answer a question for me please? I’m installing a K2, after connecting the positive and negative from the DC convert to the bike battery the blue light comes on, as expected. So when I use a posi tap connector to attach the yellow switched live into the bike’s harness, should the blue light go out, assuming of course that the bike is off?
It should but there will be a delay as the DVR has a delay timer (I think 10 seconds) to ensure and file ‘active’ when the switched power goes is saved and not ruined as that can actually be a very important file!! If it stays on then you have likely tapped the yellow wire into a live not a switched feed in the bike. On BMWs be aware that the Canbus can hold some channels live after ignition off for its own purposes so that may prolong the ‘off’ time. For example your headlight stays on for a few seconds after ignition off so effectively if you’re in that switched circuit you’ll need to wait that time PLUS the K2’s. Hope that ramble makes sense? 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK okay thanks so much for help Nick, I’ll let you know how I get on 😊👍
Hello Nick, I found under Innovv’s Quick Start Guide list, if you look at tip no. 16 it says that if the battery is at 12.7 volts or higher the blue light stays on, if it drops below 12.7v it goes off, and you lose ‘parking mode’!
Ah thanks for that. I don’t use parking mode so it makes sense something needs to stay on. Thanks for popping back 👍🏻
Just one other thing. I have a tracker and suspect you have too. With that feature on, keep your bike on charge unless it’s used daily as both those may flatten it in a week 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK yes good advice Nick,thank you!
I do have a tracker and because of that I often plug in an Optimate into the DIN socket, so I’m in the habit of doing so! Roll on the end of 🔒down 😊
@@stags-gr8to perfect. Exactly the same as me I just leave it on 👍🏻
Hallo mate great video...
I am looking for a quality dashcam to fit on my bmw R1250gsa with a screen (like Blueskysea DV988)..
I would preferred innovv k2, but there is not any screen option..
Whats your opinion about this one, you look very experience ...
Thanks in advance..
I’m not sure what function a screen performs in a dash cam?? To me it’s just a distraction. If you want to review footage you can do that via the app and a WiFi connection (slow but able to do instantly). If you just want to take footage for say a normal video then remove card and edit in PC. The files are named Date/Time and F/R for Front/Rear so easy to find. If we have a ‘funny’ or dangerous incident I just remember the time and download that clip(s). If you really think of it, why do you want a screen??? Just my opinion of course. Good luck 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK you right on this.. but i wanna see what iam recording while riding the bike and especially the rear view..
@@a.g8540 is be interested to see if that works well as the bit rate would need to be good but I’d much rather use my mirrors. I have a TFT, Nav 6 and I’m resisting mounting my mobile phone as another distraction. I’m sure I wouldn’t want the dashcam screen too. As I say just my opinion. What’s the quality like as it would need to be good to be waterproof 24/7 on the handlebars?
@@nickhodgeUK thanks Nick for your time
👍👏🏼
Hope it works for you
Hi Nick, have you had any issues with flat battery since fitting?... I connected mine to the CanSmart brake light, as per video, but having left the bike for two weeks, I arrived home and the battery was dead!
Nope, no issues here Paul. I have a tracker running 24/7 too which would be a drain. Something I did notice the other day with the front LEDs (run by No.1 circuit on CanSmart), was that if I switched the ignition on and off quickly the lights stayed on. Now I know the Canbus has some weird settings where it takes power away slowly to stop surges and such, but I waited what seemed like more than 10 seconds and they were still on. Wonder maybe if it's the CanSmart (EzyCan) more than the Innov unit??? I certainly check all lights (and more telling), the little LED on my USB power socket is off before locking the garage!
@@nickhodgeUK Ah, I might plug my usb in to the DIN, just to observe the light...
Hi nick video quality is gud but audio quite bad , plz chk thanxs
Can you help? I am fitting Innovv K2 through Denali Cansmart Gen 1 on 1200GS LC. I am using a Denali pigtail into one of the cansmart channels (actually Ch 2 reduced to 1Amp) and the K2 DVR doesn't power up. do I have to connect K2 DVR direct to the battery like you did? Worried that too many direct connections to the battery and thought I could power through the Cansmart. The K2 DVR lights go on for about one second and then go off. Any ideas? Thanks
No you’ll need the full feed from the battery to power the unit and take the ‘switching’ on/off from the CanSmart unit. The positive ‘post’ has plenty of room for mainly accessories and the earth (-) can really be connected to any in the bike or even a fixing if to metal. Hope that makes sense?
@@nickhodgeUK `Thank you for responding so quickly. That makes sense. However, I have actually put all of the wires (red, yellow, black) through the Cansmart (rather than direct to the battery) and it works -sort of. There is a 20 sec delay after turning the bike before it comes on - but i understand that this is standard. However i have another different problem. The DVR doesn't come on automatically. I have to press the silver button (this is impractical for normal use). Is there a setting or do i have connect the red and black direct to the battery for the DVr to come on automatically. Any ideas? Thanks again
carbon guy I would say you do. The can smart delay is correct. It builds to full power to avoid surges. Also I think as well as the manual ‘on’ you’re experiencing, you may find files at end not being saved too
@@nickhodgeUK OK, thanks. I will investigate more over the next week and let you know how i get on. Thanks again.
Hello Nick......another question I'm afraid!! Feel free to ignore me 😢....do you get the SD card out of the DVR module very often? Or do you tend to download any data you want via your phone? I find it takes a very delicate touch to get the card out!!
No way do I download it via the app!! The bike and phone battery would be flat. I take the card out and actually carry under the seat with the BMW ‘tool kit’ a small Christmas cracker Phillips driver to undo the 3 screws and remove the plate. The screwdriver then presses the card to ping it out. Now.... I was so worried about those tiny grub screws I asked Steve at Innovv if he could send me a few as spares which he kindly did. Of course, as I have that insurance, I’ve never lost one!!
@@nickhodgeUK Yes I'd heard that it was slow downloading via the app.
I was a bit confused when you said you had to undo 3 grub screws, so I referred back to your video and saw you DVR. They've changed it! I just have a thing rubber strip that I peel back to show the card.....no screws to undo! I do find you have to have a very delicate touch though to get the card out!! Maybe I've just got a heavy touch!!
Thanks again for all your help Nick, it is much appreciated 😊👍
@@stags-gr8to well praise the lord for that. I pinch them under my nails 🤣
@@nickhodgeUK 😂😂 I saw a little tip of just getting, say a micro cloth and placing it just under the DVR, so if you do drop a screw it doesn’t fall somewhere where you won’t find it!!
Hi I'm interested in this camera can you tell me if it will work just plugged in to a bike USB port as my brand new s1000XR has a USB under the seat so this would be a simple installation without any Hex Ez can etc wiring and expense - I know the Halocam M1 can work via USB - anyway hope to hear from you - always watch your videos as your same as me in having everything neat
Hi Mark. I don’t think you can (unless it’s changed) but you don’t have to have any kind of EzyCan but you will need to positap into a switched cable to make it work. The power pack has three wires. Red to + on battery. (There is a post to do this so no disassembly) and black to - again, no dismantling, then if the XR has the main fuse under the seat, most people tap into that. Using positaps means no wiring cutting 👍🏻
Cheers Nick I will email innovv and get clarification.
Mark - am looking on putting camera on Rad Rover e-bike. What USB battery are you using? And how long does it last?
I have an e-bike & looking to install a Front & Rear camera on it. Been looking for a good camera & a good portable USB power supply. Understanding that I would need to charge the power supply. Does anybody have any suggestions?
Hi Adam. If you look down the comments you’ll find one using a USB. I guess the issue on an ebike would be security of the DVR and GPS dongle. The unit in this video connects to the 12V motorcycle battery so if that’s the size of your battery and you have spare capacity you could use this one. Check the draw though. I think it’s low
It was good video. Thanks for information.
Hi can anybody point me in the right direction to buy the HEX smart can bus? which was shown in the video.
Karl Harrison are you in the UK Karl. If so then nippy Norman’s sell both the Hex EzyCan and the Denali CanSmart (they are the same pretty much. hex make it). Get the Gen 2 version of either as it has a few advantages including setting any as higher amperage and dimming the right lights when right turn signal on rather than ALL lights out no matter which turn signal
@@nickhodgeUK
Thanks Nick i am in the uk, thanks for the info. Are they easy to install?
@@karlharrison7378 Yes, I have the Gen 1 CanSmart as I have Denali Lights and Soundbomb Horn. There's a video on that fitment on my channel here: th-cam.com/video/uiv0DgajcxQ/w-d-xo.html
Any electrical issues popping up lately after installing the cams?
Nope. No issues to date. Should I expect some?
So you say that you'll show how to fit the yellow wire later, did I miss that because I can't find it on the video?
If I forgot I’m sorry but look back at my K2 video it’s on that. What you need to tap into is a wire that is ‘dead’ with the ignition off, but has voltage when it’s on. So on any bike there are many. Headlight, indicators, rear light, horn, etc. I have a CanSmart (EzyCan) unit, so I just tap into any of these (in fact the rear light circuit) using a pozitap.
Sorry I meant look at my K3 video
@@nickhodgeUK thanks Nick, I’ll give it a look. I can strip and rebuild a bike engine or chassis with no worries but computers and wiring are not my bag.
Nice detailed video Nick.
I used this to install my own K2 system, took me only 2 hours thanks to your guide.
I mounted the front camera on the indicator, this leaves a little of the beak in shot, but the footage is great.
I have found that the GPS (mounted as you have) but find that the signal is intermittent, how is yours performing?
Iain glad it helped. Mine seems ok although I have to say I haven’t really looked in detail just a few of the clips. I do have some advice though. I always use Sandisk Extreme or Extreme Plus cards. Experienced frozen clips. I’m only a week in but seems fine now I am using an Integral Ultima 256gb card. Seems there are lots of write-ups about Sandisk and Dashcams. I use them fine for everything else but appears they are pants for that application. If you can stretch to it then you can also get High Endurance which are guaranteed for dashcam use but they’re around twice as expensive. Good luck, ride safe
I have the SanDisk High Endurance.
I'm going to experiment a little, to see what works best.
I have just updated the FW to V57, could not find any release notes, but worth a go.
Thanks for your help.
Placed the GPS under the panel by the side of the fuel cap, plenty of space on a GSA. This has done the trick, good GPS for the last 300 miles.
great Iain. All adds to the value of the video. Thanks. Ride safe
Hi Nick as a complete novice how do you actually operate the cameras, and then access the footage?
Hi Geoff. In general, if you are using it as intended as evidential then it’s fit and forget unless you have an incident. It starts automatically, runs all the time the bike is (and when parked if that feature is switched on) and switched off soon after the bike is switched off. When the card is full it starts recording over the oldest files (loop recording). A 256gb card I think holds about 12 hours of footage from both front and rear cameras. You can of course download the footage at anytime. Realistically the best way is removing the card but you can download single files of a minute or so via WiFi on your phone, but that way is painful.
@@nickhodgeUK Hi Nick sorry for the long delay but thanks very much for your detailed response.
You dont have problem with RDC/TPMS sensor readings ?
No, but not sure why I would. I have it connected to the INNOVV 5V supply which is connected directly to the battery +- and using the ‘switch’ wire only from the taillight circuit of the Denali CanSmart unit (set as a standard accessory circuit)
I think it's a nice setup but 120 angle degree camera is a no go right off the bat. Should be at least 150 and not so crazy expensive...
Hi Jeff. Thanks for the comment. Just by way of update the unit is now over 2 years old and still working well. It’s at the top end price wise for sure but many cheap units may be long gone in that time on the harsh environment of a motorcycle. I had quite a few events I wanted to capture and none have been out of shot. In fairness personally I find 120 degrees a little too much 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK I’m thinking about the k3. I have a Goldwing and dual mounted cameras currently. The DVR is in my trunk so weather and vibration isn’t an issue. I think it’s a necessity on motorcycles to have the dual cameras. I keep looking for dual 4K cameras or at least more than 1080.
@@tjernagel just reviewing the K3 at the minute. Hope to have unboxing and fitting video done in a week or so. Be careful with wanting high spec. There is the K5 if you really want 4K but the files are significantly larger and the footage needs big processing power to edit. I have 4K available on phone and GoPros but never use it for that reason. The K3 has a couple of extra features but is similar to the K2 in spec. The chipset and bit rate is higher. Hope to have some footage comparisons in the videos 👍🏻
adjust the volume when you edit video, too low audio volume!
Ok thanks!
oh man, your audio is SOOOOOO quiet friend.
Great Video. I've just bought a GSA myself and it's got the innovv k2 system on it but I haven't been given the password. I know default password is "12345678" but that ain't working so I tried a factory reset by just holding the reset button in for 10 seconds or so and that ain't working either, any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Try doing a firmware update (even to the same version). That tends to reset everything and maybe the password back to default?? 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Yep I've done it. I downloaded the latest software and it's let me log in with the default password. That's a relief. Big Thanks.
Perfect 👍🏻
Does the GPS unit have to be fitted? I’m not bothered about that I just want the camera as evidence If necessary.
Hi Nigel. No and yes. No, it is detachable (in identical way to the cameras) and will work fine. Yes, if it’s in a place susceptible to much rain, weather, dirt the connection will suffer and could stop unit working. Maybe connect and just cool up?? 👍🏻
Hi, I have the ezcan fitted to mine. I noticed that on your you changed the rear light to a simple switched circuit. I have a rear brake light on mine and the only spare connection I have is for a phone charger. Would this be ok to connect it and change this to one amp ? And did you have to change it to 2amp after using it over time?
Regards Steve.
Stevie Paynter hi Steve. I have the Innovv K2 Cameras connected to the rear light (now simple) circuit still at 1A and it’s been fine. Hope that answers your question? For my phone charger (when needed) I have a 2-way Optimate USB Din plug in the accessory plug, right of cockpit. I have the one with one plug straight in and one at 90 degrees (from Nippy Norman’s). Let me know if I didn’t answer everything. Ride safe
@@nickhodgeUK hi Nick, thanks for replying so quickly. Dont think I explained that correctly lol. After seeing you video I have also purchased the innovv k2 and I'm in the process of installing it. I have the gs like yourself. I am currently using the outlet from my ezcan for the rear light. I have spot lights and a tail light connected to my ezcan. The only outlet left is showing a phone symbol on the ezcan software on the laptop. If I change this to one amp would this work. There is no toggle to change it to simple switch on the ezcan.
Ps I have the 1st gen ezcan
Steve.
Stevie Paynter Think I’ve got you now. You should be fine using that at 1A. The beauty of all this tech is the ‘fuses’ and ‘relays’ are replaced by electronics ‘reading’ an overload and shutting down circuits so you can do no damage. I would change the phone circuit to 1A and go with that. I have no issues for sure at that 1A setting on mine. Once you’re done apply ALL load (Lights, horn, innovv, etc) for as long as the neighbours will allow. If any circuit breaks then you’ll need to rethink but on/off ignition will reset the circuits. The likelihood of you having all on for a prolonged period is pretty much nil. You may for a short period (with horn blast) but not sustained. Remember also in daylight riding, you may have lights at 60% (that’s my setting) so they are not drawing full draw normally anyhow. Hope that all makes sense to you as it’s a bit of a brain dump. If not, I’ll try again 😂
@@nickhodgeUK thank Nick, by George I think I've got it lol... thank you for taking the time out to answer me. I very much appreciate it. Your videos are very thorough and easy steps to follow. Its great to chat and get advise.
Thank you, regards Steve.
Hello again Nick, sorry to be a pain. I have got the system up and running and been out testing it today. When i turned the bike off i left if for a while, when i returned to it a little later i noticed that there's a blue light constantly illuminated on the power unit. The switched live feed to the ezcan is working because it kills the power to the DVR unit. Do you have this issue?
Regards Steve.
I love the way this guy fitted the camera the other one do shit installs
Thanks Qasim
Why is it so quiet?
A Badger abroad in Thailand early days video I’m afraid so using phone mic. Volume up 😂
Would you please be so kind to raise the volume of your microphone or speak up a bit more please?
With background noise you are hard to understand and you are soft spoken.
Thank you very much.
Hi Ton. Things have improved sound wise since that video which I think is close on 2 years old and early days 👍🏻
I'm a bit disappointed with the video quality. Why did you fail to mention the cost?
broderp if you’re comparing it with a GoPro (or other IS product) then I agree. If you look at its primary use as an evidential unit then it’s perfectly good. Interestingly. I’ve been saved in some recreational videos by the fact it’s ‘always on’ and whilst the quality is far from GoPro 4K standard, with care in post production it gives adequate quality. Horses for courses I guess. Hopefully improvements to come?
Can't hear
You spent a fair great great time on opening box and installing (which is fine) but you missed the most important issues of these China cameras: night video recording, dealing with video files and GPS data.
Nick can I quiz you please
Hi nick can I quiz you please regarding the innovv
I’ll try. Fire away 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Two questions Nick number one sometimes my green camera light flashes and I’m not sure why? Also do you know if there is a way to scroll video Without downloading it? I was sure before I bought it but I seen someone do you a video without downloading it and been able to move the bar along the bottom of the video
@@KevinBilling you have asked these in the K2 camera so if that is what you have the camera light on the unit should flash steadily when recording. If you have the K3 then it should be on solid. The key is whether you are getting footage recording? Be sure to buy a dashcam recommended SD card as even the best fastest card (eg sandisk) will not be right for this type of recording. The recommended cards on in the Innovv site. Be aware that the camera on the K2 and 3 will flash if you are taking a picture or if an accident or g-sensor triggers an event but this should only be as it locks the file (1 flash maybe). On the ‘streaming’ of video. This can be done in the Innovv app as ‘play’ rather than download but frankly it is soooooo very slow I always remove my card, download it and look on another devices. I can do that in minutes where streaming or downloading from the app for a single minute from front and rear takes more time Hope this helps
@@nickhodgeUK thanks Novak I have a k5 it only flashed once this morning so il check my g sensor settings. My card is ok as I bought itv front innovv themselves. I’m a motorcycle instuctor from Somerset so I want to use this k5 for training really, its a pain having to stop with the engine running so I don’t end up with a flat battery to as yesterday when I was at home in my garage I ended up getting a flat battery. Not sure if the selected videos can be sent direct to my iPhone or iPad then at least I could park then bike and grab a coffee and view without having to be near the bike. I appreciate your help on these issues thanks Nick
This video would have been much shorter and bearable if you hadn’t repeated everything 3 times. Shame really as it had the chance of being a great instructional video.
Thanks for the comment anyhow Paul. All welcome
Innov K2 - хуйня, а не камера. Номера не читаются от слова "никак". Углы тоже никакие. Видна обстановка только впереди и сзади. Может оказаться недостаточным в случае инцидента. Да и GoPro Hero 7 не сильно лучше. Только за счёт крепления на шлеме меньше трясётся изображение.