This makes so much sense. I finally understand the TRUE function "dichotomies". Its not Se vs Si but Se vs Ne - ways to observe the outer world And Si vs Ni - ways to observe thoughts Its not Te vs Ti but Te vs Fe - type of external info you value primarily And Ti vs Fi - where you base your inner values on and how you justify decisions This is is glossed over by almost all typology sites and articles about cognitive functions. Its never stated this clear. This is porbably something alot of you already knew for a long time, but it only just landed for me now, explaining a LOT of confusion and vagueities on my part 😅 And now I can finally add this knowledge in a framework I understand and makes sense to me, I can continue on in my typing journey, which is especially hard as my ASD supressed my natural Fe for a long time.
One of the most unbiased explanation of all the functions. Always noticed many people over explain Ni /Fi / Ne and manage to give them more importance than Fe/ Si/ Se. All cognitive functions are important and equal. We use them all in varying degrees.
You gave the best definition I've seen yet of the difference between Se and Ne. How they are both looking at the same external world but the lens of Ne is far more broad, losing site of the details. While Se seeks the details and is better at following the movements of concrete objects. Another thing you could mention when you talk about the cognitive axis is Se is attached to Ni and is dynamic. While Ne is attached to Si and is static. Using tennis as an example, Se would focus on the movement of an individual tennis ball in a match to help Ni determine how the ball will be hit back (as Ni visualizes one's own future actions based on present (Se) circumstances.) While Ne, using Si, would consult mental images of many tennis balls seen over time to create an abstract image of what a typical tennis ball looks like.
🤔 The discription of visualization is exactly what I do, but Si is strong too. I have to accept that I dip into other functions. I sit smack in the middle of Si and Ni.
@@CognitivePersonality Thanks. Also when you do the cognitive axis video please describe how Ne-Si usage differs from Si-Ne usage. So as an INTP I work best using Ne that goes to my Si. Yet an ESTJ works best using Si parent first followed by Si child (Beebe terminology.) I'd like to better know how the order of usage of the cognitive axis affects output. And also the effects of a delayed cognitive axis. So as an INTP Si immediately follows Ne. But for an ENTP Si only comes after Ti-Fe in a tricky down effect. My theory (using the Socionics 4D model) tells me ENTPs should seek novelty (Ne) 4 times as much as familiarity (Si). But an INTP should only seek novelty (Ne) 1.5 times as much as familiarity (Si.) While an ISTJ should seek familiar repetitive tasks (Si) 4 times and much as seeking novelty (Ne.) Yet more challenging repetitive tasks, like accounting, due to a powerful Si. Not sure if you follow that. I will say as an INTP I was an international survey pilot for about a year yet the requirement to adapt to constant changing environments was too much. Yet the ESTPs and ENTPs and ENFPs and ESFPs thrived in that ever changing environment. So I ended up flying for a regional airline for 4 years that had a good mixture of variety (Ne) with familiarity (Si.) But being an insurance broker or accountant would be too repetitive and challenging as my Si memory to details is not that strong.
Jared, I agree with most of this, except I understood CPT's description to say that NE picks up on movement better. th-cam.com/video/PQtBUvGK5C0/w-d-xo.html I bring this up bc it may have an impact on the tennis example. Unless I misunderstood something?? :)
@@sashalevine4865 Almost all tennis players are ISTPs, and nearly all basketball and football players Se users. Se users are much more conscious of movements of the physical environment than Ne users. An ESTP especially. Because Se users can keep their eyes on the ball and so are more focused on the individual physical environment. Whereas Ne users are constantly taking snapshots of the entire physical environment to send to their Si longterm memory. So in that sense their vision is more broad because it's taking snap shots of numerous aspects of the environment. But as an INTP my Se is my worst cognitive function according to Socionics. As my 7th function Beebe calls it my trickster function (because INTPs think they are good at it, which is why I struggled way more than I thought I would as a regional airline pilot and didn't get past flying a single engine airplane.) As an INTP I often run into things and don't notice changes in my physical environment very well at all. But this changes when I'm traveling and seeing things for the first time. And when I travel, I'm like INTP Charles Darwin when he traveled the world, looking for patterns. I'll scan the people I see at airports. Compare the fauna, etc. So in this sense as an Ne user my vision is broader than an Se user who likely locks his or her vision into getting from point A to B when traveling. And seeing people as individuals without trying to categorize them or compare them to past people and events. But if there is a bunch of smoke at the airport as an INTP with Se trickster I'll probably be the last person to notice it as I'd likely be too busy pattern recognizing things, or dazed in a Ti-Si loop.
Ive been going down the CPT rabbit hole for 3 years now...This is the first time I find an explanation for the functions that aren't bias. Thanks for being objective as possible...So many arrogant theorists out there spewing bullshit theories(buncha wannabes that don't realise there is no 'best/worst' type)...and its very unhelpful for learning sake...internet, am I right...
Alleged ENTP here. One of my friends who’s really into this stuff diagnosed me and I essentially laughed it off. The more I look into it, watch these videos, and pick which one I most relate to- I realized they were right. They saw me in a way I struggle to see myself honestly.
I know this is an old comment, but your description of how you felt about it all as an ENTP describes what it's like to be FI blind perfectly. It's a very ExTP Fi blind experience to struggle to be in tune with your own subjective sense of self
Having an extensive experience on both Ti and Te in work, i have some additional categories: Ti - structural - the fabric of complex logical order, the fundamental rules and principles that an object strictly operates. Good example is discrete structures, tree traversals, etc. Also a self correcting system that compares itself against itself for the sake of logical consistency. Organizes one thing at a given moment. Determines what an object can do and cannot do. Te - functional - the apparent logical processes of how something operates. The dynamic interaction of objects and the comparison of objects against other objects that ensures competence and better quality. Creates standards and guidelines for maximum effectiveness, ensuring high quality and productivity. Te optimizes processes, enhance performance and organizes objects dynamically. They can sometimes overlap, but their striking difference is Ti's goal is structural consistency while Te is functional performance. Awesome video. Can't wait for the functional axes. Keep it up :)
So basically, Ti is how an object works by itself, and Te is how an object with its parameters works in conjunction with other objects and their parameters? Or am I still missing something?
@@dumdum8538 partly yes, using Jung's idea of introversion as narrowness/resistance and extroversion as wideness/adaptability, Ti is less dependent on the situation, more static, because it focuses on what remains true regardless of the situation and focuses on the singular/narrow principle that applies to everything else. Te understands that what applies here may not apply there, what works here may not work there, therefore being more dynamic and adaptable to the situation just as how jung defined extroverts.
Yep. Ti and Te seem to overlap more for IxTJ's and ExTP's due to their strong inner critic 6th function. Example: I naturally Te but there are times the Ti gets me hard, making me feel overlogical to one thing, essentially getting "stuck" in the Te process.
Harry, your type is: J-E-D-I :P Thank you for helping all of us build a more solid foundation of CPT knowledge! I use CPT components on a consistent basis when practicing typology! As always, THANK YOU, Harry ^_^
Thank you my friend! Judging-Extraverted-Decisive-Introspective - first words that popped into my head, not sure about that second part.. I'm excited by your applications of CPT btw!
@@CognitivePersonality nice adaptation with the letters... the intuition is strong in this one! XD Yeah, thanks again-- CPT is very helpful at clarifying much of the MBTI "murkiness" :)
Hands down the best explanation I've seen on the cognitive functions so far. Not perpetuating those meaningless phrases that are great at a first glance, but say absolutely nothing when you're trying to really understand. There's a saying that if you want to know if you've learned something, try explaining it to someone who doesn't know that something. The other day I got to try that. Not only that, but had to switch to my mother tongue too. I've only seen stuff about this in English. This "cheat sheet" came in really handy, because even though I've been into this topic for the last couple of years, my mind totally blanked having to explain this in simple, easy to understand terms and it felt like I knew nothing at all. So, thanks I'll be coming back to this one. Cheers.
Thank you, now I understand why I tend to behave decisively even though as an INFP I'm typed as being indecisive. FYI: I decisively change my mind, constantly, as I feel out the decision I previously made and realize I'm not comfortable with it. As I've gotten older I've realized I need to slow down and feel things out. Maybe I'm this way because my role model growing up, my dad, is an ENFP.
Hands down the BEST cognitive functions explanation I've found on TH-cam and on the internet....and I have been on the MBTI track for almost a decade. Woah!!!! So glad I found your channel. Thank you!!!
I'd love the camera metaphor to be continued for the deciding functions (as someone for whom codec means nothing, so it slows my understanding). Not sure how though. (& I know you'll be attached to your terminology, even though it will limit your audience.)
Whold it bee correct to say that N is more holistic and S more analytical. N looking at how things relate and fit together while S focuses on details and picking thing apart to understand the various parts and components.
I like how you frame the extroverted judging functions as primarily concerned with attaining a desired result. Both Te and Fe are concerned with efficiency and accomplishing goals that are objectively measurable. I think it’s easier for Fe types to think along Te terms than Fi terms. And the same goes for Ti and Fi.
Definitely in the convergent position. In the divergent position they can be more oriented towards preserving an existing one. But, yes, there can often be much more of a goal element with these functions as they are concerned with external order. Cheers :)
@@PanzonVilla Check out the older videos in my CPT Principals playlist as one port of call. In short: Convergence - active: creative; zone of control and responsibility. Divergent - passive; authoritative; static, observation>action. Ni-Ti are an INFJ's convergent functions, whereas Se-Fe are divergent :)
I appreciate your efforts into making this content for the sake of helping other people... Hope channels like you gain more recognition in order for people to better understand the cognitive functions and mbti in general.
Hey Harry! Great breakdown of the functions. 🙂Exceptionally high-quality videos and editing is superb too. You do a good job of explaining the complex theory in a fun and entertaining way. Thank you for this!
I've been trying to learn the functions off and on for some years now and I have to say: this really helped me understand the functions more than any other resource. Thank you!
I'm starting to watch your videos and I'm so impressed by the way you express it. It's concrete, precise, but also broad and praiseworthy. I can really understand what you say while learning and trying to know what type I am. Thank you so much!
Amazing! The definitions were so relatable the expansion of the definition of Te to the aesthetic, not only broadened my view of Te but I realized I use it a lot more than I thought. Great video!
I agree Te is often tied into decorating more than Fe, which deals more with having a clean house, while Te = impressive house. Fe users don't mind filling a house full of yard sale items, as long as there isn't a lot of clutter and everything is neat. While Fi-Te users often have nice furniture full of clutter. Unless someone important comes over where clutter would affect their Te status.
Nicely done! I even jotted down a few key points that I found helpful.( on paper, how archaic)🙂 I also took note of your deliberate pausing, as some have said the pace was a little fast for them. You are on point as usual! Kudos!
Very interesting! I'm so used to seeing Te labeled as "results, rules, and efficiency", and somehow only related to the business world and executives-- but for it to include something like design is great! With design you really are assessing how the parts (colors, elements, furniture, etc) relate to one another, and can be worked together to create something cohesive. Might a concrete example of Te (with Ne) be an ENFP redesigning someone's home? They walk in to the house, taking a broad overview of the inside. They analyze and come up with a design encompassing many elements and tasks that need to be done that would enhance the living area, create more space (rearrange furniture), tp make it look bigger or brighter --- and they would to an extent, be driven by their personal Fi sense of aesthetics?
I like this view on it. A lady I know is considered the go to person for aesthetic sense in our social group. Most of the time a great sense of aesthetics seems to be contributed to Se, but I can't for the life of me imagine that lady as a high Se user. She also has a good mechanical aptitude and that confident Te vibe. On that note, as 4th slot Te-user it would explain why my own sense of aesthetics has only now started to emerge through a growing awareness and conscious interest due to feedback from others.
These are really good definitions. I like how you explained each function as well as allowing a “space” to exist between functions, which explains why sometimes it’s so hard to differentiate between functions. Good video! 👍
extroversion is outside "the self" & introversion is inside "the self". sensing is about the singular data points. & intuition is about the pattern made out of a number of such discrete data points. (Correct me if I am getting anything wrong above.) plus I didn't get the exact difference between the thinking & the feeling function. I mean everyone kinda understands it anyways, but I need a clear definitive distinction between these 2 functions.
This video=just what the doctor ordered. Great content as always. I find your definitions very fitting, and I enjoy the broad way you explain things. It leaves room for the human variables which fortunately or unfortunately we can't escape. I am so looking forward to the rest of the videos in this series.
Absolutely love your perspective on this, and your voice is so soothing I can hardly help but listen. There is the TINIEST typo in the description where “(Ti)” is written as “(T)i”. Being and ENTP with OCD this stood out to me, chalk it up as 4th spot Si or whatever you may but I just wanna help!
What I understand and write on my notebook: Ti - Analyzing and arranging internal individual logics into orders (values oriented) Te - Analyzing and arranging external collective logics into orders (actions oriented) Fi - Analyzing and arranging internal individual feelings into orders (values oriented) Fe - Analyzing and arranging external collective feelings into orders (actions oriented) Ni - Perceiving and connecting a broad portion of internal realities (vague and abstract) Ne - Perceiving and connecting a broad portion of external realities (vague and abstract) Si - Perceiving and focusing on a small portion of internal realities (detailed and concrete) Se - Perceiving and focusing on a small portion of external realities (detailed and concrete)
Video assimilated 100% ✔📝 You're so right to say that is like a scale or a line space that we can navigate between the cognitives fonctions!! For real, I see myself in all the portions of the cognitive fonctions and can relate with my past experiences that all fonctions in a moment and time help to acheive or advance in my life. Thanks for the 2e video 😅 ✌
8:41 I got the image of someone working with an equalizer or a sound production machine with all the vertically sliding buttons and dials...where you change a value, it produces this, or by adding that, it changes or affects another property of the sound. Different resonances, harmonies, melodies, time and structure mixing in seamless fluidity within the framework of the type.
I had stated in past comments that I was still on only 2-3 types in my research. I was kind of stuck because there were gaps I couldn't see and also not spending enough time researching types. The gaps were the opposites: exe. Ni-Si and Fi-Ti. I understood exe. Fe-Ti, Ni-Fe, and a little about Ti-Te, but something was missing in the interplay between the functions. This has shed some light on what was somewhat holding me up. CPT clears things and brings them together in a nice and balanced way. I will be ordering your books. Thanks!
A good way to figure out which similar function you use is to think, 'which servers the other?'. i.e. if you're trying to figure out si vs ni, te vs fe, ne vs se, ti vs fi
Man, I'm scared of you. Those questions about "Who am I going to be in 5 years" or "Why are other people's values different from mine" ... dude, that shit hit me so fucking hard. Every morning and every night, questions like those come to mind. You've read my mind
I see the difference between my Se self (divergent auxiliary) and my Ne--dominant mom whenever we watch movies. She's always trying to predict ahead. She's read tons of books, so she's pretty good at tracking plot tropes and predicting them. Meanwhile I'm frustrated at her questions because I missed a line or other detail lol
Hello again. Thank you for bringing to me the level of clarity nobody else out there is putting out. I have a question which I feel bad asking in public and you may not answer due to politeness in the comments section. So I guess I’ll be vague. Do you think there are a few TH-camrs putting out INFJ videos, who are clearly more likely INFPs or something else, who may be leading to the mess of confused INFx’s out there? Have a wonderful day. Your channel rocks 💖
Again. I love these. I’m still struggling to see myself in Se vs Si and Fe vs Fi and then rest that follows - Ne vs Ni is the easiest to dismiss as being in the top functions, at the very least. the thing is, I’m highly self aware of my actions but I don’t actually ever think about why I think/see/focus a certain way and if I try to do it too much like this, I can just imagine myself aligning with whatever makes sense the most without actually being able to proof it. But I’ll keep searching, as this is still quite rewarding nonetheless.
I need clarity on Ne and Ni. I understand that both of those functions capture broad picture which misses out on details and so they have to figure out a way to fill it. Can you give me examples to understand the following question: 1) how does N operate differently with external and internal? 2) how does it fill gaps differently in external and internal By example, I mean that of how someone uses these functions. I’m an ESTJ if that helps.
Could you please make a video about the differences between intp and intj? Both types are very interesting and similar even though they have different cognitive functions.
I'm interested in how the cognitive functions relate to machine learning. It seems that perceiving relates to data inputs and judging relates to algorithmic processing of data. Do you think this analogy can be deeper? Do different kinds of data relate to different perceiving functions? Do different kinds of algorithms relate to different judging functions?
Yes I do think this could apply to A.I! As you say, the lens controls the data input and the codec the processing - for as long as an algorithm is both extraverted and introverted, I think it could very well be half-typed> Limbic processing would be a next step though.
@@CognitivePersonality so if we take algorithms like Facebook/Google, their extroverted sensing would be data on all the thing users have liked or searched. The introverted thinking part of the algorithm could be the tools it gives its advertisers to target audiences. Could that be considered Limbic processing?
@@sstoikov Limbic would the ability to self program, beyond self-optimisation; I can't think of a way current algorithms could imitate the role Feeling plays within us.
What exactly do you mean by the “internal world” when talking about ni? Because si refers to experiences, tangible details stored within the brain, known to work. What does ni look at? Which things in the brain does it consider? Trends and conclusions relying upon te and se observed data?
I think introversion is not about the *internal* world in a sense of one's internal imaginations, etc. Visual imagination is still within the scope of sensation. That "internal" processes are related to the combination of attention and cognitive functions, but I'll argue this doesn't need to necessarily be attributed to the "internal", rather it's the capacity of one's consciousness itself, which may be internal or external, or perhaps both at once. Introversion is oriented to the internal reality--the archetypes and instincts perhaps released by your genetic clock, and this doesn't exclude the processes that are happening within an introverted sensation type. The peculiarity with the introverted sensor, however, is that it processes the archetypes via the sensing function. What sensing function does is to create a physical representation of the archetypes, be it visual or other kinds, where an introverted intuitive will explore the archetypes via the intuitive function, which provides some background for the internal environment created by introverted sensation. This works much like how extraverted intuition data provides a background for extraverted sensation data--things that are not apparent to the sense organs immediately, but is instinctively known to be there in that moment. For example things that are behind your back--you don't see what's behind you, yet you can often intuitively tell what should be there. And much like how extraverted sensation perceives the external world (sight, sound, etc), so does introverted intuition perceives the internal world of archetypes--both perveive the respective content directly, compared to extraverted intuition and introverted sensation who mix-matched the connection between both. This is why the topic can get convoluted quickly, because everything is connected to each other. Consciousness is inherently tied to the sensing and thinking function, which are more concrete/extraverted by its nature, while the unconsciousness, to intuition and feeling function, which are abstract/introverted in nature. This is why when Jung was referring to the "unconscious", he meant different things at different times. At one time it's to emphasize the whole subjective realm of archetypes which introverts are motivated by, at another time to emphasize their interaction with the consciousness--which mainly is the domain of Ni, but also Si. What he didn't consider though, that even the external reality one doesn't currently perceives, I'll also argue could be viewed as a section of the unconscious itself albeit external, one that stays unconscious until it's directly perceived by extraverted sensation, or inferred by extraverted intuition. I had also interpreted introversion as being related to an "internal world" in the sense that you mean here, but the above perspective explains so many else in my opinion.
Hi everybody, I googled the word "codec" (as I never heard of it) and found out it has to do more with encoding computers than coloring photography (which is what I thought it was. Oops). Here is the definition on google: "A codec is a device or computer program which encodes or decodes a digital data stream or signal. Codec is a portmanteau of coder-decoder. A coder encodes a data stream or a signal for transmission or storage, possibly in encrypted form, and the decoder function reverses the encoding for playback or editing." Or you could just say "codec" = judging functions.
Ahh, so interesting you thought it was to do with photography! Exactly, data is not perceived by the codec but rather processed upon receipt - a codec function is responsible for both understanding and 'encoding' for effective transmission of assigned value :)
@@CognitivePersonality I thought codec related to photography because of how it related to the lens functions. And the word codec sounds like the camera maker kodac. Anyway I agree the judging functions operate like a codec and can be described as such. But when I hear you say "Codec" functions in a lecture I'll end up translating them "Judging" functions for familiarity and simplicity. The first time viewer, though, may not get that far. Good job, by the way, slowing down this lecture. And your descriptions are work best when you are describing already familiar terminology. Like when CSJ describes Ni as a shotgun. Or how you described the perceiving functions as a lense. But not changing familiar terminology in your lectures as you use good descriptive terms to describe them. As there should be no need to translate English into English.
Have you by any chance looked at the theory over at cognitivetype? I'm a fan of their function description such as Si/Ni being 'worldview' functions perceiving the tangible(what is) or abstract (what could be). Its always fun to compare and contrast!
Definitely a fan of compare/contrast! Ah yes the vultology system - very interesting stuff. I do like these two definitions! Si as the concrete internalisation and Ni as the abstract internalisation has a similar perspective :)
I've always been typed and really resonated with the INFJ type but I'm still hesitant to type myself definitely, I'd much rather learn and focus about the functions before coming to any conclusion.
Nice video. Maybe you could do a video on someone with a dominant introverted stack acting like an extrovert, and vic verse with the extrovert.How to tell them apart since you said in your book about how behavior does not always line if their an introvert or extrovert.By the way like your explanation on extroverted thinking.
So like, what would the difference then be between an INFP appreciating beauty and an ISFP appreciating beauty? You say plethoric or detailed, but you never really give concrete examples. Let’s say an INFP and an ISFP looked at a beautiful landscape in nature, what would the difference be in their perception?
True, concrete examples would be handy. ISFP - Se hones in on a detail which is related to in a broad manner (Fi-Ni). Present. INFP - Ne perceives whole picture, which is related to in a specific Fi-Si manner. Predictive. ISFP has an intense concrete experience, whereas the INFP might be employing Si (a memory for example) to make the experience feel more concrete.
@@Anonymei Recall will tend to be hazier with the ISFP, though with Si in authority position they may feel more compulsion towards reflection all the same.
My sister is an ISFP, and from experience, I can tell you that she'll be trying to name all the plants she sees and evaluating the job the gardener did. I don't have an INFP example to compare it with. 😅 As an INFJ, I prefer to passively experience the essence of the landscape. I very much enjoy the beauty, but do not want to have to analyze it or process it consciously.
when you say TE is all in the external minus human equasion, you mean subjective human equasion? a objective thinking for example would be in its domain?
Definitely an Intuitive thing, but if it feels like the prediction is absent external source it may be Ni - if it's more unconscious Ni may not be a main function though!
@@CognitivePersonality yep, it's by external sources. I'm always finding tendencies and generalities through patterns. Maybe I have Ni. I thought I had Si, thanks.
Have you heard of a TH-camr named Renaud Contini? He’s a fellow INFJ like you, and I was thinking the other day how cool it would be for the two of you to talk to one another given how you both talk about and offer different perspectives to the table of MBTI! I’m not sure what topic you could talk about, but I think it would be very interesting to see both of you dive deep into discussion about MBTI or something similar :)
Bingo! Just the overview I needed. Thank you. Been simmering in this stuff long enough to have made plenty of erroneous leaps. This video helped. So does the cheat sheet with my pals names jotted down next to their types on a printout of one of the colorful function stack images out there. So fun and interesting.
Hey...great video! Very informative! I am curious.... The difference in the manifestation of a function when a person leads with a codec /lens? .... So,if a person leads with a lens function- are they going to perceive it first and then judge it? But then there's nothing to judge without perceiving in people who lead with a codec function-😅😅 so, then, I thought , maybe they have a broader perception of the world.... But that doesn't fit either.... I hope you understand my question...and hope you can give me an answer.... Once again, if I wasn't clear.... How does a type's manifestation differs when the dominant/hero function is the codec/lens?
The functions occur simultaneously, but the dominant acts as doorway, and therefore instills the emphasis. Lens dominance prioritises experiential novelty :)
Okay, Harry, now I'm gonna sound pretty crazy but, I'm an ENTP by the way(dunno if the info will help) but why I feel so much better using the perceiving functions and have such a hard time with the judging functions? It's like I can properly absorb information with acting on it or engaging with it on the go. Like, or I make correlations with it in the go or it just fit an idea I already had, or I engage with it directly without much thought or relate to my values and how I was raised. But I feel I have a hard time with all the rest. I can't rest with new information, you know? I have ADD so maybe that's that. But I always feel my Ti lacking soooo much. Fe is barely there at all.
Ahhh. Si is my inferior function, and I spend way more time being that stereotype than I care too admit. I'm just going to blame my ADHD, anxiety, and depression though. No accountability for me, baby.
Just love your insight and was curious about something I read on ENFJs taking on emotions(maybe even ideas) of others and believing it to be their very own. If this is possible, why does it happen, and why can’t they distinguish between their own feelings/beliefs from someone else’s? Could this be an interesting topic for a video? Truly curious.
Thank you! ENFJs can indeed embody the values and feelings of their community and culture so, generally, this is a danger point. However, I would say these are still their own feelings, just born of a more collectivist identity :)
I liked your descriptions of the cognitive functions but I have a question: If I imagine a castle without recalling a specific one I've seen would I be using Si or Ni? Because even if it's not really a concrete memory, if I visualize it it's still a recollection of various castles I've seen in the past. And if it's not, what would be the difference between Ni and Si visualizing something or is visualisation automatically Si (because technically I would have to rely on my memories in order to be able to visualize it)? Or does it become Ni if I picture a castle in order to create a vision of what I want a future castle to look like (so it depends on the reason why I'm visualizing it)?
Man, whenever I try to focus myself in the external world, I cannot focus on concrete details for the life of me, but rather the abstract relationships between them, be it my internal "sensory memory" realm, the relationships and ideas behind subjects like color theory and music theory. They sound good together, and I wanna find out how, and to some extent, why. This could be related to Ti dominance and the puzzle-piece orientation I find myself in constantly, be it the relations between people. Perhap MBTI is an Ne system, as Carl Jung was an INTP, supposedly. Other sources often claim otherwise, though. But I really enjoy these definitions, and they really narrow down the options.
Thank you, this is great to hear :) I am actually open to Carl Jung being an INTP - he had a playful side of an external abstract nature that does speak of Ne, but I suspect this was often done as a way to explore otherwise unexpressed parts of his psyche. He seemed pretty single minded and intent on pursuing a hypothesis to its furthest conclusion, which resonates with the INFJ possibility, but he also seemed willing to explore many different logical paths without necessarily unifying them. I remain open to both INFJ and INTP!
@@CognitivePersonality With something like your rendition of the "inferior function," is it something that requires understanding and development like in classic MBTI? Because when it comes to Fe matters, it's something I've had to analyse and consiously study. Not only that, but in recent years, my altruistic side has really shown, and given your South Park video, which you said a type can dip into their opposite orientation in certain scenarios, is it possible to dip into my Fe to console, mediate, and help out in a practical FeSi way?
@@andyroobrick-a-brack9355 The oppositional function must be reconciled with the dominant, and power delegated to it, for it to be employed in the convergent and active manner you speak of. Otherwise, it tends to be a function of high observational prowess, to be abided by more than acted upon.
@@CognitivePersonality Yeah, I get what you mean. In terms of observing patterns and the concept of social norms and etiquette, I can observe and act on them when it really counts, like listening to someone's problems and helping them through an issue. But dealing with crowds and dealing with the values and emotions of the whole, unless I'm judging through my Ti systems, becomes a huge, HUGE challenge.
@@CognitivePersonality It's like I have to conciousley turn on Fe in order to understand people, only to abandon it when hanging out with the right people, unless they are in fire need of a pseudo-therapy session. Ultimately, I end up analysing Fe harmony with a TiNe puzzle-style lense, almost as if it's a compartmentalized system. That's probably why I got into MBTI in the first place, not only to understand myself, but to help others in my own weird way.
I feel even more confused. I’m going to have to take detailed notes and study the vocabulary in order to properly identify myself. I feel like I am not leaning any particular way. I have experienced all of the cognitive functions described and I often float between them. I tend to adjust my scope often. I am very detail oriented but I also tend to take pause and examine my surroundings with a much broader scope. I would consider myself more introverted because I feel more comfortable internalizing my perceptions, but when I am with an extroverted individual I tend to mirror their perception and their emotions. I often find that when I reflect on experiences I had with other people I tend to perceive the details completely differently. It gets quite confusing in social settings though. Any more than 2 people and I am completely back to introverted. It can be overwhelming bouncing between each person’s emotions and I can’t process everything. I’m just confused because I will think very critically about any given piece of information or detail while at the same time making much more broad connections with all of my prior knowledge. Essentially I experience extreme metacognition, social awareness, and objective reasoning. But it’s like I am on a boat floating between them. Not all at the same time.
The functions are all vital components of human existence. Eventually you will notice difference in attitudes and primary orientations enough to gauge where each function is located in your cognitive map. It's generally less about the % of a function and more about the role :)
This makes so much sense. I finally understand the TRUE function "dichotomies".
Its not Se vs Si but
Se vs Ne - ways to observe the outer world
And
Si vs Ni - ways to observe thoughts
Its not Te vs Ti but
Te vs Fe - type of external info you value primarily
And
Ti vs Fi - where you base your inner values on and how you justify decisions
This is is glossed over by almost all typology sites and articles about cognitive functions. Its never stated this clear.
This is porbably something alot of you already knew for a long time, but it only just landed for me now, explaining a LOT of confusion and vagueities on my part 😅
And now I can finally add this knowledge in a framework I understand and makes sense to me, I can continue on in my typing journey, which is especially hard as my ASD supressed my natural Fe for a long time.
One of the most unbiased explanation of all the functions. Always noticed many people over explain Ni /Fi / Ne and manage to give them more importance than Fe/ Si/ Se. All cognitive functions are important and equal. We use them all in varying degrees.
Exactly this :)
You gave the best definition I've seen yet of the difference between Se and Ne. How they are both looking at the same external world but the lens of Ne is far more broad, losing site of the details. While Se seeks the details and is better at following the movements of concrete objects. Another thing you could mention when you talk about the cognitive axis is Se is attached to Ni and is dynamic. While Ne is attached to Si and is static. Using tennis as an example, Se would focus on the movement of an individual tennis ball in a match to help Ni determine how the ball will be hit back (as Ni visualizes one's own future actions based on present (Se) circumstances.) While Ne, using Si, would consult mental images of many tennis balls seen over time to create an abstract image of what a typical tennis ball looks like.
I love this! Will be exploring the axial relationships more later in the series but I love where you are going here!
Also, cheers :)
🤔 The discription of visualization is exactly what I do, but Si is strong too. I have to accept that I dip into other functions. I sit smack in the middle of Si and Ni.
@@CognitivePersonality Thanks. Also when you do the cognitive axis video please describe how Ne-Si usage differs from Si-Ne usage. So as an INTP I work best using Ne that goes to my Si. Yet an ESTJ works best using Si parent first followed by Si child (Beebe terminology.) I'd like to better know how the order of usage of the cognitive axis affects output. And also the effects of a delayed cognitive axis. So as an INTP Si immediately follows Ne. But for an ENTP Si only comes after Ti-Fe in a tricky down effect. My theory (using the Socionics 4D model) tells me ENTPs should seek novelty (Ne) 4 times as much as familiarity (Si). But an INTP should only seek novelty (Ne) 1.5 times as much as familiarity (Si.) While an ISTJ should seek familiar repetitive tasks (Si) 4 times and much as seeking novelty (Ne.) Yet more challenging repetitive tasks, like accounting, due to a powerful Si. Not sure if you follow that. I will say as an INTP I was an international survey pilot for about a year yet the requirement to adapt to constant changing environments was too much. Yet the ESTPs and ENTPs and ENFPs and ESFPs thrived in that ever changing environment. So I ended up flying for a regional airline for 4 years that had a good mixture of variety (Ne) with familiarity (Si.) But being an insurance broker or accountant would be too repetitive and challenging as my Si memory to details is not that strong.
Jared, I agree with most of this, except I understood CPT's description to say that NE picks up on movement better. th-cam.com/video/PQtBUvGK5C0/w-d-xo.html
I bring this up bc it may have an impact on the tennis example. Unless I misunderstood something?? :)
@@sashalevine4865 Almost all tennis players are ISTPs, and nearly all basketball and football players Se users. Se users are much more conscious of movements of the physical environment than Ne users. An ESTP especially. Because Se users can keep their eyes on the ball and so are more focused on the individual physical environment. Whereas Ne users are constantly taking snapshots of the entire physical environment to send to their Si longterm memory. So in that sense their vision is more broad because it's taking snap shots of numerous aspects of the environment. But as an INTP my Se is my worst cognitive function according to Socionics. As my 7th function Beebe calls it my trickster function (because INTPs think they are good at it, which is why I struggled way more than I thought I would as a regional airline pilot and didn't get past flying a single engine airplane.) As an INTP I often run into things and don't notice changes in my physical environment very well at all. But this changes when I'm traveling and seeing things for the first time. And when I travel, I'm like INTP Charles Darwin when he traveled the world, looking for patterns. I'll scan the people I see at airports. Compare the fauna, etc. So in this sense as an Ne user my vision is broader than an Se user who likely locks his or her vision into getting from point A to B when traveling. And seeing people as individuals without trying to categorize them or compare them to past people and events. But if there is a bunch of smoke at the airport as an INTP with Se trickster I'll probably be the last person to notice it as I'd likely be too busy pattern recognizing things, or dazed in a Ti-Si loop.
I could sit for hours hearing you talking... it amazes me the way you talk about the theory 🤩 Great video, as always 😊
Thank you so much! :)
Ive been going down the CPT rabbit hole for 3 years now...This is the first time I find an explanation for the functions that aren't bias. Thanks for being objective as possible...So many arrogant theorists out there spewing bullshit theories(buncha wannabes that don't realise there is no 'best/worst' type)...and its very unhelpful for learning sake...internet, am I right...
Thank you for this comment!
Alleged ENTP here. One of my friends who’s really into this stuff diagnosed me and I essentially laughed it off. The more I look into it, watch these videos, and pick which one I most relate to- I realized they were right. They saw me in a way I struggle to see myself honestly.
I know this is an old comment, but your description of how you felt about it all as an ENTP describes what it's like to be FI blind perfectly. It's a very ExTP Fi blind experience to struggle to be in tune with your own subjective sense of self
Having an extensive experience on both Ti and Te in work, i have some additional categories:
Ti - structural - the fabric of complex logical order, the fundamental rules and principles that an object strictly operates. Good example is discrete structures, tree traversals, etc. Also a self correcting system that compares itself against itself for the sake of logical consistency. Organizes one thing at a given moment. Determines what an object can do and cannot do.
Te - functional - the apparent logical processes of how something operates. The dynamic interaction of objects and the comparison of objects against other objects that ensures competence and better quality. Creates standards and guidelines for maximum effectiveness, ensuring high quality and productivity. Te optimizes processes, enhance performance and organizes objects dynamically.
They can sometimes overlap, but their striking difference is Ti's goal is structural consistency while Te is functional performance.
Awesome video. Can't wait for the functional axes. Keep it up :)
I like it! And, thank you :)
So basically, Ti is how an object works by itself, and Te is how an object with its parameters works in conjunction with other objects and their parameters? Or am I still missing something?
@@dumdum8538 partly yes, using Jung's idea of introversion as narrowness/resistance and extroversion as wideness/adaptability, Ti is less dependent on the situation, more static, because it focuses on what remains true regardless of the situation and focuses on the singular/narrow principle that applies to everything else. Te understands that what applies here may not apply there, what works here may not work there, therefore being more dynamic and adaptable to the situation just as how jung defined extroverts.
Yep. Ti and Te seem to overlap more for IxTJ's and ExTP's due to their strong inner critic 6th function.
Example: I naturally Te but there are times the Ti gets me hard, making me feel overlogical to one thing, essentially getting "stuck" in the Te process.
Harry, your type is: J-E-D-I :P Thank you for helping all of us build a more solid foundation of CPT knowledge! I use CPT components on a consistent basis when practicing typology! As always, THANK YOU, Harry ^_^
Thank you my friend! Judging-Extraverted-Decisive-Introspective - first words that popped into my head, not sure about that second part..
I'm excited by your applications of CPT btw!
@@CognitivePersonality nice adaptation with the letters... the intuition is strong in this one! XD
Yeah, thanks again-- CPT is very helpful at clarifying much of the MBTI "murkiness" :)
Juxtaposing, Enriching, Delineating, Iconoclasting!
Just Extremely Damn Intelligent?
Hands down the best explanation I've seen on the cognitive functions so far. Not perpetuating those meaningless phrases that are great at a first glance, but say absolutely nothing when you're trying to really understand.
There's a saying that if you want to know if you've learned something, try explaining it to someone who doesn't know that something.
The other day I got to try that. Not only that, but had to switch to my mother tongue too. I've only seen stuff about this in English.
This "cheat sheet" came in really handy, because even though I've been into this topic for the last couple of years, my mind totally blanked having to explain this in simple, easy to understand terms and it felt like I knew nothing at all.
So, thanks I'll be coming back to this one. Cheers.
Thank you, now I understand why I tend to behave decisively even though as an INFP I'm typed as being indecisive. FYI: I decisively change my mind, constantly, as I feel out the decision I previously made and realize I'm not comfortable with it. As I've gotten older I've realized I need to slow down and feel things out. Maybe I'm this way because my role model growing up, my dad, is an ENFP.
Exactly, the stereotypes and natural predispositions only go so far - we are all individuals!
Incredible. This explanation and video seems perfect because it is accurate, concise, yet also broad enough and thorough. Thank you!
Thank YOU!
I love how you pause for a moment after you speak it helps a lot to take in what you just said and understand the topic better keep up the good work 💪
I appreciate that!
Accurate, concise, efficient, and informationally dense presentation.
I appreciate that!
Hands down the BEST cognitive functions explanation I've found on TH-cam and on the internet....and I have been on the MBTI track for almost a decade. Woah!!!! So glad I found your channel. Thank you!!!
Adding to your metaphor for the perceiving functions, you could add ZOOM (in for sensing, out for intuition).
I'd love the camera metaphor to be continued for the deciding functions (as someone for whom codec means nothing, so it slows my understanding). Not sure how though. (& I know you'll be attached to your terminology, even though it will limit your audience.)
I LOVE the zoom idea! I can definitely work with the camera metaphor to explain the rationality process :)
@@CognitivePersonality 🥳 that is 🤩 awesome!
Great idea! That would act as an amazing visual aid.
Whold it bee correct to say that N is more holistic and S more analytical. N looking at how things relate and fit together while S focuses on details and picking thing apart to understand the various parts and components.
Exactly :)
Then I'm an ISTP
I like how you frame the extroverted judging functions as primarily concerned with attaining a desired result. Both Te and Fe are concerned with efficiency and accomplishing goals that are objectively measurable. I think it’s easier for Fe types to think along Te terms than Fi terms. And the same goes for Ti and Fi.
Definitely in the convergent position. In the divergent position they can be more oriented towards preserving an existing one. But, yes, there can often be much more of a goal element with these functions as they are concerned with external order. Cheers :)
Cognitive Personality Theory not sure what you mean by “convergent” and “divergent”. Do you have a video explaining that?
@@PanzonVilla Check out the older videos in my CPT Principals playlist as one port of call.
In short:
Convergence - active: creative; zone of control and responsibility.
Divergent - passive; authoritative; static, observation>action.
Ni-Ti are an INFJ's convergent functions, whereas Se-Fe are divergent :)
Cognitive Personality Theory I’ll check that out. Thanks 🙏
This is wonderfully explained. Never has something so complex been presented to me so simply
I appreciate your efforts into making this content for the sake of helping other people... Hope channels like you gain more recognition in order for people to better understand the cognitive functions and mbti in general.
You are so precious for MBTI Community. Many thanks for your contributions!
Hey Harry! Great breakdown of the functions. 🙂Exceptionally high-quality videos and editing is superb too. You do a good job of explaining the complex theory in a fun and entertaining way. Thank you for this!
Thank you so much Joyce, that means a lot! :)
11:00 yo this guy actually blinks
Impossible, must have been a glitch.
I've been trying to learn the functions off and on for some years now and I have to say: this really helped me understand the functions more than any other resource. Thank you!
Cheers, Adrian - my pleasure!
I'm starting to watch your videos and I'm so impressed by the way you express it. It's concrete, precise, but also broad and praiseworthy. I can really understand what you say while learning and trying to know what type I am. Thank you so much!
That's really cool to hear - thank you!
Amazing! The definitions were so relatable the expansion of the definition of Te to the aesthetic, not only broadened my view of Te but I realized I use it a lot more than I thought. Great video!
Some use Te differently to others, but it's always there! Thank you :)
Every time I rewatch this video I understand something new.
It's definitely a dense video!
This is one of the most comprehensible reviews on this subject. Thank you sincerely.
This is extremely well said. Looking forward on sharing more of this series.
Thank you :)
I agree Te is often tied into decorating more than Fe, which deals more with having a clean house, while Te = impressive house. Fe users don't mind filling a house full of yard sale items, as long as there isn't a lot of clutter and everything is neat. While Fi-Te users often have nice furniture full of clutter. Unless someone important comes over where clutter would affect their Te status.
For sure!
Your description of Ni explains why I find the Personality Hacker label of "Perspectives" so relatable.
Cool :)
Brother, amazing. Before this I had very vague ideas of what Ni/Si might mean, and you just snapped into place so many things. Thank you.
Watching you is like going into my NF world for a blissful moment.
It's amazing to me how clearly you can articulate such abstract concepts. Bravo!
Nicely done! I even jotted down a few key points that I found helpful.( on paper, how archaic)🙂 I also took note of your deliberate pausing, as some have said the pace was a little fast for them. You are on point as usual! Kudos!
Yes! Step by step I'm learning to sloooow down :)
On paper - there is something about the old fashioned way! Cheers :)
@@CognitivePersonality 🙏
Very interesting! I'm so used to seeing Te labeled as "results, rules, and efficiency", and somehow only related to the business world and executives-- but for it to include something like design is great! With design you really are assessing how the parts (colors, elements, furniture, etc) relate to one another, and can be worked together to create something cohesive. Might a concrete example of Te (with Ne) be an ENFP redesigning someone's home? They walk in to the house, taking a broad overview of the inside. They analyze and come up with a design encompassing many elements and tasks that need to be done that would enhance the living area, create more space (rearrange furniture), tp make it look bigger or brighter --- and they would to an extent, be driven by their personal Fi sense of aesthetics?
I like this view on it.
A lady I know is considered the go to person for aesthetic sense in our social group. Most of the time a great sense of aesthetics seems to be contributed to Se, but I can't for the life of me imagine that lady as a high Se user. She also has a good mechanical aptitude and that confident Te vibe.
On that note, as 4th slot Te-user it would explain why my own sense of aesthetics has only now started to emerge through a growing awareness and conscious interest due to feedback from others.
These are really good definitions. I like how you explained each function as well as allowing a “space” to exist between functions, which explains why sometimes it’s so hard to differentiate between functions. Good video! 👍
extroversion is outside "the self"
&
introversion is inside "the self".
sensing is about the singular data points.
&
intuition is about the pattern made out of a number of such discrete data points.
(Correct me if I am getting anything wrong above.)
plus I didn't get the exact difference between the thinking & the feeling function. I mean everyone kinda understands it anyways, but I need a clear definitive distinction between these 2 functions.
I think your brilliant! I love how you really break everything down:)
Thanks so much!
Thank you, this has really cleared up my understanding of Te and Si, as well as the ti-fi relationship in terms of identity
I'm happy to hear this my friend!
This video=just what the doctor ordered. Great content as always. I find your definitions very fitting, and I enjoy the broad way you explain things. It leaves room for the human variables which fortunately or unfortunately we can't escape. I am so looking forward to the rest of the videos in this series.
Thank you! Will be filming the next episode within the next few weeks :)
Absolutely love your perspective on this, and your voice is so soothing I can hardly help but listen.
There is the TINIEST typo in the description where “(Ti)” is written as “(T)i”.
Being and ENTP with OCD this stood out to me, chalk it up as 4th spot Si or whatever you may but I just wanna help!
Thank you, that means a lot! :)
Ah hah! Thank you for bringing this to my attention :D
What I understand and write on my notebook:
Ti - Analyzing and arranging internal individual logics into orders (values oriented)
Te - Analyzing and arranging external collective logics into orders (actions oriented)
Fi - Analyzing and arranging internal individual feelings into orders (values oriented)
Fe - Analyzing and arranging external collective feelings into orders (actions oriented)
Ni - Perceiving and connecting a broad portion of internal realities (vague and abstract)
Ne - Perceiving and connecting a broad portion of external realities (vague and abstract)
Si - Perceiving and focusing on a small portion of internal realities (detailed and concrete)
Se - Perceiving and focusing on a small portion of external realities (detailed and concrete)
This is very useful! I wish I had found this video first before watching other videos about personality.
Video assimilated 100% ✔📝
You're so right to say that is like a scale or a line space that we can navigate between the cognitives fonctions!! For real, I see myself in all the portions of the cognitive fonctions and can relate with my past experiences that all fonctions in a moment and time help to acheive or advance in my life. Thanks for the 2e video 😅 ✌
Well said!
8:41
I got the image of someone working with an equalizer or a sound production machine with all the vertically sliding buttons and dials...where you change a value, it produces this, or by adding that, it changes or affects another property of the sound.
Different resonances, harmonies, melodies, time and structure mixing in seamless fluidity within the framework of the type.
15:38 The Summary Cheatsheet™🏁
I had stated in past comments that I was still on only 2-3 types in my research. I was kind of stuck because there were gaps I couldn't see and also not spending enough time researching types. The gaps were the opposites: exe. Ni-Si and Fi-Ti. I understood exe. Fe-Ti, Ni-Fe, and a little about Ti-Te, but something was missing in the interplay between the functions. This has shed some light on what was somewhat holding me up. CPT clears things and brings them together in a nice and balanced way. I will be ordering your books. Thanks!
Thank you so much! I hope they are informative :)
These definitions make sense to me. The typical definitions floating around the web always feel like false dichotomies to me.
Is there a personality type that cannot grasp these concepts? I think I need multiple concrete examples
A good way to figure out which similar function you use is to think, 'which servers the other?'. i.e. if you're trying to figure out si vs ni, te vs fe, ne vs se, ti vs fi
LOL long pause after saying time stamps 😉 I see I see! So thorough!!!
Man, I'm scared of you. Those questions about "Who am I going to be in 5 years" or "Why are other people's values different from mine" ... dude, that shit hit me so fucking hard. Every morning and every night, questions like those come to mind. You've read my mind
I think i'm crazy or something. Are those normal questions?
Great vids to explain each functions... Keep it up sir
I see the difference between my Se self (divergent auxiliary) and my Ne--dominant mom whenever we watch movies. She's always trying to predict ahead. She's read tons of books, so she's pretty good at tracking plot tropes and predicting them. Meanwhile I'm frustrated at her questions because I missed a line or other detail lol
Hello again. Thank you for bringing to me the level of clarity nobody else out there is putting out. I have a question which I feel bad asking in public and you may not answer due to politeness in the comments section. So I guess I’ll be vague. Do you think there are a few TH-camrs putting out INFJ videos, who are clearly more likely INFPs or something else, who may be leading to the mess of confused INFx’s out there? Have a wonderful day. Your channel rocks 💖
Thanks! I will vaguely answer 'yes', and go further to say one or two may be doing so knowingingly.
@@CognitivePersonality Whoa, that’s messed up.
Again. I love these. I’m still struggling to see myself in Se vs Si and Fe vs Fi and then rest that follows - Ne vs Ni is the easiest to dismiss as being in the top functions, at the very least. the thing is, I’m highly self aware of my actions but I don’t actually ever think about why I think/see/focus a certain way and if I try to do it too much like this, I can just imagine myself aligning with whatever makes sense the most without actually being able to proof it. But I’ll keep searching, as this is still quite rewarding nonetheless.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with all human beings ~~
I need clarity on Ne and Ni. I understand that both of those functions capture broad picture which misses out on details and so they have to figure out a way to fill it. Can you give me examples to understand the following question:
1) how does N operate differently with external and internal?
2) how does it fill gaps differently in external and internal
By example, I mean that of how someone uses these functions. I’m an ESTJ if that helps.
Thank you I learned so much from your videos 🙏🏽
Thank you for commenting :)
Could you please make a video about the differences between intp and intj? Both types are very interesting and similar even though they have different cognitive functions.
Definitely!
Okay this is a framework I can use. Wow. Thank you.
I'm interested in how the cognitive functions relate to machine learning. It seems that perceiving relates to data inputs and judging relates to algorithmic processing of data. Do you think this analogy can be deeper? Do different kinds of data relate to different perceiving functions? Do different kinds of algorithms relate to different judging functions?
Yes I do think this could apply to A.I! As you say, the lens controls the data input and the codec the processing - for as long as an algorithm is both extraverted and introverted, I think it could very well be half-typed>
Limbic processing would be a next step though.
@@CognitivePersonality so if we take algorithms like Facebook/Google, their extroverted sensing would be data on all the thing users have liked or searched. The introverted thinking part of the algorithm could be the tools it gives its advertisers to target audiences. Could that be considered Limbic processing?
@@sstoikov Limbic would the ability to self program, beyond self-optimisation; I can't think of a way current algorithms could imitate the role Feeling plays within us.
Healthy Fe = helping, which may trump harmony if helping means stating unpleasant truths to burn off dross in others.
For sure, I often finding convergent Fe used for such reasons :)
Thank you for your work!
I've just learned a terrible truth. I think Chancellor Murrell is a Sith Lord.
Impossible. Perhaps the archives are incomplete.
What exactly do you mean by the “internal world” when talking about ni? Because si refers to experiences, tangible details stored within the brain, known to work. What does ni look at? Which things in the brain does it consider? Trends and conclusions relying upon te and se observed data?
I think introversion is not about the *internal* world in a sense of one's internal imaginations, etc. Visual imagination is still within the scope of sensation. That "internal" processes are related to the combination of attention and cognitive functions, but I'll argue this doesn't need to necessarily be attributed to the "internal", rather it's the capacity of one's consciousness itself, which may be internal or external, or perhaps both at once. Introversion is oriented to the internal reality--the archetypes and instincts perhaps released by your genetic clock, and this doesn't exclude the processes that are happening within an introverted sensation type. The peculiarity with the introverted sensor, however, is that it processes the archetypes via the sensing function. What sensing function does is to create a physical representation of the archetypes, be it visual or other kinds, where an introverted intuitive will explore the archetypes via the intuitive function, which provides some background for the internal environment created by introverted sensation. This works much like how extraverted intuition data provides a background for extraverted sensation data--things that are not apparent to the sense organs immediately, but is instinctively known to be there in that moment. For example things that are behind your back--you don't see what's behind you, yet you can often intuitively tell what should be there. And much like how extraverted sensation perceives the external world (sight, sound, etc), so does introverted intuition perceives the internal world of archetypes--both perveive the respective content directly, compared to extraverted intuition and introverted sensation who mix-matched the connection between both. This is why the topic can get convoluted quickly, because everything is connected to each other. Consciousness is inherently tied to the sensing and thinking function, which are more concrete/extraverted by its nature, while the unconsciousness, to intuition and feeling function, which are abstract/introverted in nature. This is why when Jung was referring to the "unconscious", he meant different things at different times. At one time it's to emphasize the whole subjective realm of archetypes which introverts are motivated by, at another time to emphasize their interaction with the consciousness--which mainly is the domain of Ni, but also Si. What he didn't consider though, that even the external reality one doesn't currently perceives, I'll also argue could be viewed as a section of the unconscious itself albeit external, one that stays unconscious until it's directly perceived by extraverted sensation, or inferred by extraverted intuition.
I had also interpreted introversion as being related to an "internal world" in the sense that you mean here, but the above perspective explains so many else in my opinion.
Thanks for the time stamps 🙂
Welcome :)
I felt so emotional hearing the Fi description, I don’t even know why. I guess there’s a new IxFP here lol
This video helped me a lot! Thank you 😊
Glad it helped!
Hi everybody, I googled the word "codec" (as I never heard of it) and found out it has to do more with encoding computers than coloring photography (which is what I thought it was. Oops). Here is the definition on google: "A codec is a device or computer program which encodes or decodes a digital data stream or signal. Codec is a portmanteau of coder-decoder. A coder encodes a data stream or a signal for transmission or storage, possibly in encrypted form, and the decoder function reverses the encoding for playback or editing." Or you could just say "codec" = judging functions.
Ahh, so interesting you thought it was to do with photography! Exactly, data is not perceived by the codec but rather processed upon receipt - a codec function is responsible for both understanding and 'encoding' for effective transmission of assigned value :)
@@CognitivePersonality I thought codec related to photography because of how it related to the lens functions. And the word codec sounds like the camera maker kodac. Anyway I agree the judging functions operate like a codec and can be described as such. But when I hear you say "Codec" functions in a lecture I'll end up translating them "Judging" functions for familiarity and simplicity. The first time viewer, though, may not get that far. Good job, by the way, slowing down this lecture. And your descriptions are work best when you are describing already familiar terminology. Like when CSJ describes Ni as a shotgun. Or how you described the perceiving functions as a lense. But not changing familiar terminology in your lectures as you use good descriptive terms to describe them. As there should be no need to translate English into English.
Have you by any chance looked at the theory over at cognitivetype? I'm a fan of their function description such as Si/Ni being 'worldview' functions perceiving the tangible(what is) or abstract (what could be). Its always fun to compare and contrast!
Definitely a fan of compare/contrast! Ah yes the vultology system - very interesting stuff. I do like these two definitions! Si as the concrete internalisation and Ni as the abstract internalisation has a similar perspective :)
It is an interesting comparison! I think it's a little bit odd that I'm slightly different Fi-dominant types in each of the two systems!
Foinally. I can't purchase your book yet so this is great help.
Glad to hear the video helped :)
Great video!
15:42 Intuitive types start here
Another excellent video!
Thank you!
I've always been typed and really resonated with the INFJ type but I'm still hesitant to type myself definitely, I'd much rather learn and focus about the functions before coming to any conclusion.
Nice video. Maybe you could do a video on someone with a dominant introverted stack acting like an extrovert, and vic verse with the extrovert.How to tell them apart since you said in your book about how behavior does not always line if their an introvert or extrovert.By the way like your explanation on extroverted thinking.
Yess I love this idea!
And, thank you!
So like, what would the difference then be between an INFP appreciating beauty and an ISFP appreciating beauty? You say plethoric or detailed, but you never really give concrete examples.
Let’s say an INFP and an ISFP looked at a beautiful landscape in nature, what would the difference be in their perception?
True, concrete examples would be handy.
ISFP - Se hones in on a detail which is related to in a broad manner (Fi-Ni). Present.
INFP - Ne perceives whole picture, which is related to in a specific Fi-Si manner. Predictive.
ISFP has an intense concrete experience, whereas the INFP might be employing Si (a memory for example) to make the experience feel more concrete.
Cognitive Personality Theory So would an ISFP have worse recall ability of what the details they perceived where? Since they have Ni, not Si?
@@Anonymei Recall will tend to be hazier with the ISFP, though with Si in authority position they may feel more compulsion towards reflection all the same.
My sister is an ISFP, and from experience, I can tell you that she'll be trying to name all the plants she sees and evaluating the job the gardener did. I don't have an INFP example to compare it with. 😅 As an INFJ, I prefer to passively experience the essence of the landscape. I very much enjoy the beauty, but do not want to have to analyze it or process it consciously.
The summary is very helpful thanks :)
Glad it was helpful!
I love you and your channel, and im not joking
when you say TE is all in the external minus human equasion, you mean subjective human equasion? a objective thinking for example would be in its domain?
“Don’t dive down the rabbit hole” hahaha from an Infj I already know cuz I am one lol
if a predict a situation without knowing the reason, that could be count as a "Ni thing" right? because maybe i do that, but just occasionally.
Definitely an Intuitive thing, but if it feels like the prediction is absent external source it may be Ni - if it's more unconscious Ni may not be a main function though!
@@CognitivePersonality yep, it's by external sources. I'm always finding tendencies and generalities through patterns. Maybe I have Ni. I thought I had Si, thanks.
Ok, what logicaly follows is that S and N are cognitive functions and F a T are value orientation which are culturaly loaded.
Have you heard of a TH-camr named Renaud Contini? He’s a fellow INFJ like you, and I was thinking the other day how cool it would be for the two of you to talk to one another given how you both talk about and offer different perspectives to the table of MBTI! I’m not sure what topic you could talk about, but I think it would be very interesting to see both of you dive deep into discussion about MBTI or something similar :)
I'm always down for a good collab! :)
Do you have this all written out online somewhere? It's a lot to take on over video.
You are great! Take care of yourself!!!!
Bingo! Just the overview I needed. Thank you. Been simmering in this stuff long enough to have made plenty of erroneous leaps. This video helped. So does the cheat sheet with my pals names jotted down next to their types on a printout of one of the colorful function stack images out there. So fun and interesting.
Thank you. Cheat cheats all the way!
Hey...great video! Very informative!
I am curious....
The difference in the manifestation of a function when a person leads with a codec /lens? .... So,if a person leads with a lens function- are they going to perceive it first and then judge it? But then there's nothing to judge without perceiving in people who lead with a codec function-😅😅 so, then, I thought , maybe they have a broader perception of the world.... But that doesn't fit either.... I hope you understand my question...and hope you can give me an answer....
Once again, if I wasn't clear.... How does a type's manifestation differs when the dominant/hero function is the codec/lens?
The functions occur simultaneously, but the dominant acts as doorway, and therefore instills the emphasis. Lens dominance prioritises experiential novelty :)
Awesome video
How does an Fe hero behaves differently to an Se hero.
I cant tell them apart
How do we know when Se is the second function and when Fe is second.
Okay, Harry, now I'm gonna sound pretty crazy but, I'm an ENTP by the way(dunno if the info will help) but why I feel so much better using the perceiving functions and have such a hard time with the judging functions? It's like I can properly absorb information with acting on it or engaging with it on the go. Like, or I make correlations with it in the go or it just fit an idea I already had, or I engage with it directly without much thought or relate to my values and how I was raised. But I feel I have a hard time with all the rest. I can't rest with new information, you know? I have ADD so maybe that's that. But I always feel my Ti lacking soooo much. Fe is barely there at all.
Ahhh. Si is my inferior function, and I spend way more time being that stereotype than I care too admit. I'm just going to blame my ADHD, anxiety, and depression though. No accountability for me, baby.
Just love your insight and was curious about something I read on ENFJs taking on emotions(maybe even ideas) of others and believing it to be their very own. If this is possible, why does it happen, and why can’t they distinguish between their own feelings/beliefs from someone else’s? Could this be an interesting topic for a video? Truly curious.
Thank you! ENFJs can indeed embody the values and feelings of their community and culture so, generally, this is a danger point. However, I would say these are still their own feelings, just born of a more collectivist identity :)
Cognitive Personality Theory I really appreciate you taking the time in answering/responding to mine, as well many other’s comments.
I liked your descriptions of the cognitive functions but I have a question: If I imagine a castle without recalling a specific one I've seen would I be using Si or Ni? Because even if it's not really a concrete memory, if I visualize it it's still a recollection of various castles I've seen in the past. And if it's not, what would be the difference between Ni and Si visualizing something or is visualisation automatically Si (because technically I would have to rely on my memories in order to be able to visualize it)? Or does it become Ni if I picture a castle in order to create a vision of what I want a future castle to look like (so it depends on the reason why I'm visualizing it)?
Ni will visualise a general 'sense impression' of a castle - as soon as you start narrowing in on details you're using Si :)
Or maybe sensory details could be less defined if you took in something from the outer world as a sense impression to begin with :)
@@AmyMarie1992 Also true!
Okay, thanks for the clarification :)
Man, whenever I try to focus myself in the external world, I cannot focus on concrete details for the life of me, but rather the abstract relationships between them, be it my internal "sensory memory" realm, the relationships and ideas behind subjects like color theory and music theory. They sound good together, and I wanna find out how, and to some extent, why. This could be related to Ti dominance and the puzzle-piece orientation I find myself in constantly, be it the relations between people. Perhap MBTI is an Ne system, as Carl Jung was an INTP, supposedly. Other sources often claim otherwise, though. But I really enjoy these definitions, and they really narrow down the options.
Thank you, this is great to hear :)
I am actually open to Carl Jung being an INTP - he had a playful side of an external abstract nature that does speak of Ne, but I suspect this was often done as a way to explore otherwise unexpressed parts of his psyche. He seemed pretty single minded and intent on pursuing a hypothesis to its furthest conclusion, which resonates with the INFJ possibility, but he also seemed willing to explore many different logical paths without necessarily unifying them. I remain open to both INFJ and INTP!
@@CognitivePersonality With something like your rendition of the "inferior function," is it something that requires understanding and development like in classic MBTI? Because when it comes to Fe matters, it's something I've had to analyse and consiously study. Not only that, but in recent years, my altruistic side has really shown, and given your South Park video, which you said a type can dip into their opposite orientation in certain scenarios, is it possible to dip into my Fe to console, mediate, and help out in a practical FeSi way?
@@andyroobrick-a-brack9355 The oppositional function must be reconciled with the dominant, and power delegated to it, for it to be employed in the convergent and active manner you speak of.
Otherwise, it tends to be a function of high observational prowess, to be abided by more than acted upon.
@@CognitivePersonality Yeah, I get what you mean. In terms of observing patterns and the concept of social norms and etiquette, I can observe and act on them when it really counts, like listening to someone's problems and helping them through an issue. But dealing with crowds and dealing with the values and emotions of the whole, unless I'm judging through my Ti systems, becomes a huge, HUGE challenge.
@@CognitivePersonality It's like I have to conciousley turn on Fe in order to understand people, only to abandon it when hanging out with the right people, unless they are in fire need of a pseudo-therapy session. Ultimately, I end up analysing Fe harmony with a TiNe puzzle-style lense, almost as if it's a compartmentalized system. That's probably why I got into MBTI in the first place, not only to understand myself, but to help others in my own weird way.
How dare you ... assume that I am doing exactly what I'm doing. LOL
Can you type me? I’ve been thinking I’m an isfp for a while but recently I’ve been having a typology crisis 😢
I feel even more confused. I’m going to have to take detailed notes and study the vocabulary in order to properly identify myself.
I feel like I am not leaning any particular way. I have experienced all of the cognitive functions described and I often float between them.
I tend to adjust my scope often. I am very detail oriented but I also tend to take pause and examine my surroundings with a much broader scope.
I would consider myself more introverted because I feel more comfortable internalizing my perceptions, but when I am with an extroverted individual I tend to mirror their perception and their emotions. I often find that when I reflect on experiences I had with other people I tend to perceive the details completely differently.
It gets quite confusing in social settings though. Any more than 2 people and I am completely back to introverted. It can be overwhelming bouncing between each person’s emotions and I can’t process everything.
I’m just confused because I will think very critically about any given piece of information or detail while at the same time making much more broad connections with all of my prior knowledge.
Essentially I experience extreme metacognition, social awareness, and objective reasoning. But it’s like I am on a boat floating between them. Not all at the same time.
The functions are all vital components of human existence. Eventually you will notice difference in attitudes and primary orientations enough to gauge where each function is located in your cognitive map.
It's generally less about the % of a function and more about the role :)