Pre-ground Coffee VS Freshly Ground Coffee - Which tastes better?
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- Ever got confused between using a cheap grinder and getting pre-ground coffee from your roaster partner?
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I think you compared between two different kind of beans here. If the beans are old and bad itself, what best can a grinder do, regardless of its price. Grinder just breaks the beans down, it doesn't add flavors. Freshly ground coffee is always a better pick rather the pre-grounds. You had to compare the same coffee beans from the same roasting batch. Pre grinded and whole beans from the same batch after a month or two, that would be a fair comparison.
yeah I just have the same questions, he kept repeating that the pre-ground coffee is two months old, but he mentioned nothing about the beans he was grinding fresh. The grinder doesn't add any flavors by itself (as long as its clean) but the size and evenness of the grind definitely matters for a smooth extraction. This test needed more scientific thinking and methodology for sure.
The problem is when each roaster has their own definition of what the grind size is. For instance your espresso grind is too fine for my nanopresso, while BT's home espresso grind is just right.
That said I hope to make the trek to Nagpur sometime to meet you folks and share a coffee with you. Your content is really great and much more approachable than the others on YT! :)
I feel like ur fresh coffee grind was too fine for a pour over. An old coffe can never beat a fresh one. Or maybe it was completely robusta. Or something.
robusta ------------- naaah!
was slight fine but it works very well too
00:00 Intro
01:00 Dilemma of whole beans vs pre-ground
02:10 Why V60?
02:56 Differentiating with aroma
03:24 Actual Brewing
04:16 The Taste Test
06:03 Conclusions
this is super kind. appreciate it and thank you again
Thanks boss I'll be get some good experience..👌
Does the taste of the coffee change if the ingredients are at different temperatures like the same roast tastes different when prepared with hot milk and chilled milk (with espresso) if yes then reason?
Suppose we take light roasted coffee, i think if you brew it with less temp around 80-85, it will be under extracted and with temp around 90-95 it will give different taste. I have tried this, and it's different.
@@prabhjotschadha1153 oooo thanks!!!
Crazzzy!!! Didn’t expect this at all
same here !!!!!
Finally an indian who knows something about coffee, i have seen numerous Indian youtubers who talk about creama and some of them have literally used and uploaded a video of their makeing instant coffee in their espresso machine.
interesting results! hopefully you can repeat this test with the same coffee roasted at the same date. Maybe give it a week or two of rest to see how well the pre-ground holds up in the coffee bag
Did the cheap grinder have ceramic burrs? I guess those ones give a terrible grind consistency. I guess in India, a good cheap entry level grinder would be the timemore c2, it has steel burrs and grinds fast too. I think it was my best buy in 2021, given that I used to drink pre ground for around 8 months, the difference was great .
Im not associated with the company, just sharing my experience. Would love to upgrade to a comandate someday.
'Zarak Yousufzai ' has done a similar test for coffee taste, about 2 years back (same time this is posted)and you can find that the result is also similar.
Great video.
One question, define cheap 😅. I started out with Hario slim mill and then shifted onto the Timemore C2. Both are sub 5K grinders in a world where hand grinders can cost 30k +
In comparison mine is cheap.
Yet, according to a similar taste test i did (with both the grinders) the difference is very plausible. Preground coffee often gives off a very rubbery texture for me, starting at about 3 weeks from roast. Whole beans stays fresh for a month or so before falling into the same problem.
PS: it's very visible that you are using one of the sub Rs.1000 hand grinders. Still would like to know your opinion on these beginner level hand grinders.
Thanks 😊
haaahaha brilliant one !
the one i used was 1650 /- INR (Indian Rupee)
Yet, according to a similar taste test i did (with both the grinders) the difference is very plausible. Preground coffee often gives off a very rubbery texture for me, starting at about 3 weeks from roast. Whole beans stays fresh for a month or so before falling into the same problem.
- Yep correct!
timemore c2 i would love to try that soon.
30k for a grinder? I would give up on coffee.
@@dartrunner4599cheat out Weber workshop website you absolutely will leav coffee, and let me tell you it's a pit hole to fall in i started out really cheap with investment of 3000 rs but today am In 30 k ball park so think before getting into it but let me tell you it's always exciting to brew your own coffee it's not about product at end it's about journey my excitement is still here from 3 years so you can tell that it's good and so much expensive at same time it's for you to decide
That's the costliest of hand grinders. You don't need that. Above a 15k grinder you won't seea difference. @@dartrunner4599
I don’t see how a grinder is at fault. It grinds.
Cool video! :)
Hey,
would love to see a video of characteristics of Arabica, Robusta and Liberica and how to bring out best out of them.
What's a good grinder for aeropress compatible drinks?
Excellent topic.. I haven’t invested in a decent grinder yet. So always a struggle to choose between fresh coffee + bad grinder AND stale coffee preground with professional grinder.
Follow up question: what entry level grinder would tilt the equation in favor of fresh whole bean coffee option? As in do I minimum need a Commandante or anything cheaper than that can also change the equation?
glad you saw and liked ,
this video has opened a can of coffee i reckon.
Well not really commandante necessary. in one the comments its written timemore , i think that is decent.
or baratza encore.
(all the names i am taking none of these are sponsored or any commercial understanding etc. just to be very clear. no endorsements occuring)
First of all thanks a lot bro for this comparison i was gonna buy a grinder similar to this which was around 1.5k in hopes of getting better coffee than the pre ground one. So money well saved there!
and also your channel is severely underrated i was flabbergasted when i saw the subscribers when compared to the information and just the quality of production your videos have.
i wish you all the very best and you’ll definitely achieve great success.
Cheers from a fellow indian coffee lover🥂
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NO WAY!!! How in the coffee world a 2 month old ground coffee can beat a freshly ground, granted the cheap grinder isn’t the best but I still find it very hard to believe
yep ! your apprehension is absolutely valid.
my explanation will be - fine migration and the big rock boulders , the super uneven coffee extraction could be one reason.
channelling other.
but yeah i was surprised too.
Will it taste better for freshly ground beans with a South Indian coffee filter instead of the paper filter?
Wow, did not expect the results at all! I've used the cheap grinder for almost a year, and it wasn't a pleasant experience. But I always assumed it must be better than preground coffee. But it's clear now, a cheap grinder has literally zero pros.
uneven grounds!!!
uneven extraction and weird taste.
it was a real interesting one
Thank you 🫡
Thanks for the video Mithilesh. This was really helpful
thanks for the topic! Cheers keep that coming
Can you grind coffee in a mixer grinder?
naaaah avoid!
If you have a blade grinder (blender), you can try with some technique. James Hoffman made a video on this. You can pause and play your grinds. For example: Switch on the grinder for 5 seconds, pause. Shake the grinder so the beans are mixed up and shuffled. Repeat until you achieve your grind size.
What about 2 months old whole bean vs fresh whole beans both grind at same time and taste difference. Love to know the result.
TBH - i know the answer since i did that back in '16 when i was just getting into specialty and was heading roasting for a company in India.
fresh beans - forever. in comparison to whole beans 2 months old.
assuming grinder is good and same:)
This is surprising as I thought the freshly grounded would taste much better than the pre grounded one. How long you can use this pre grounded coffee for? Also, would love to hear your thoughts about manual brewing coffee (French press /Pour over) vs. machine made coffee (espresso /Moka pot)
yep its been a common point here i guess!
well i have seen it be good for 12 days (preground in good grinder)
fantastic i will work on that topic