Supercharging The 2014 Hyundai Elantra PT. 1
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- Hey all, today I am going to be talking about using this little supercharger called the AMR500 and whether we can make a feasible build with it in our little 1.8L engine bays. Being belt driven (and our belts being on the left side) space is a little tight, but I hope we can make it work!
- Sorry about no in video links, I can't use them until I get some more channel growth, will add them later!
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I will be following your build with enthusiastic interest young man. I am also loving the Bible verses you are adding to your videos. Great job.
Before I begin, please forgive my unsolicited advice and please do not let me discourage you. I hope the following information will be helpful.
I have an AMR500 on my Suzuki Samurai G16A. If I would have known what I know now I would built it as a draw through system.
1. A draw through configuration gives more linear throttle response.
2. Draw through allows the supercharger to run cooler.
3. Draw through actually sounds better because it isn't having to compress the unused air.
4. You won't have as much hot bypass air to redirect after the MAF sensor.
You will want to use an intercooler. Because of space constraints on my rig I installed a water to air intercooler.
The rule of thumb for supercharger sizing suggests using a supercharger with a displacement 50% to 70% of the engine displacement to achieve maximum efficiency.
The simple Roots Blower is the least efficient of the supercharger designs. 75% to 80% is the normal range. The faster you spin them the hotter they get. Remember cool dense boost air is better than hot boost air. In fact you will make more horsepower with less boost that is dense than more boost that is hot.
Heat is an issue when overdriving the AMR500. I am running mine at 1.89 times the engine speed. Recently while offroad I was against my rev limiter of 6250 rpm off and on for around 10 minutes. I didn't adjust my water/methanol injection to kick on at 75KPA along with a lower intake air temperature setting to 130°F and above. The AMR500 supercharger became heat soaked causing expansion which lead to clearance issues. The rotor coatings failed and luckily were caught by the intercooler rather than being ingested by the engine.
Being fuel injected the supercharger doesn't get cooled by the fuel air mixture like the carbureted or throttle body injected draw through setups.
Moral of the story is draw through is good and blow through is bad when using a roots type supercharger.
Good luck on your build and stay healthy. God Bless.
Wow! Thank you for watching, and I am happy that your enjoyed the Scriptures and video as well. You have just given me a ton of information I can't even begin to express how excited I am just reading this! You are the official go to guy now on this video with this information! I am pinning as well! I hope I can make this project work and I will do some research on the Draw Through as it is new to me. You and Your Family be Blessed and Stay Healthy as well.
Not to plug my TH-cam videos under Zuk4x4 but you can get a sense of just how ridiculously loud the AMR500 is in a blow through configuration. The centrifugal superchargers work beautifully in a blow through because they are essentially a mechanically driven turbocharger so most of the turbo plumbing configurations work. The VW Beetle crowd are the true pioneers of repurposing these little JDM Subaru Pleo superchargers. Some of these guys are running these on engines with displacements pushing 4 times the supercharger displacement. However they are carbureted so they are cooled by the fuel. Not knowing much about your OBD2 ECU, I will be surprised if it can compensate for the supercharger.
You will need to address fuel and timing control. A 1 to1 boost referenced fuel pressure regulator will be needed. Research your factory fuel injector flow rating. Try to stay at or under 80% dutycycle and under 60 psi for reliability. A wideband AFR system like an AEM 30-300 is a necessity for tuning.
Most likely your factory MAP sensor won't handle boost pressure.
You may want to look for a piggyback for your ecu.
Don't get overwhelmed. Nobody can eat an elephant in one bite. Go 1 bite at a time. Go to the AMR500 page on Facebook. Also you are welcome to message me on Facebook if you have questions you need answered quickly. I will try to steer you in the correct direction.
@@zuk4x493 I really appreciate everything man. Yes I have been trying to find different parts for the car that can work, I was looking up FMU / FPR for my car, but the issue I have is that It is a deadend fuel rail and has no return, so I found a 'returnless' fmu here www.ebay.com/itm/Fuel-management-unit-FMU-14-1-0-100-PSI-for-returnless-deadhead-fuel-system-line/183129005059 yet they want a return on it. So that's my first issue I have had. I did do an upgrade to a NTK wideband 02 so at least there is that for the tuning part (There will be a video for it soon) - but no gauge unit of course comes with it. I am going to see how it runs with the stock MAP, using a readout from my OBD2 scanner - and hopefully with that know if I am running too lean. Otherwise, I know it is a step by step process! From repairing my car, to modding it I quickly learned that no matter what, something unexpected or wrong can happen lol! Thanks Again for the valuable information man, I hope that the project works out.
@@that5thgenhyundaielantraguy you can reach out to me on Facebook messager under Don Riead.
I’ve started my build on my Hyundai Getz. I have the charger mounted and I running a front mount cooler. Also a fuel pressure regulator and larger fuel pump. See how far I get with the injectors. My car is a 1.5ltr twin cam. I’ll post a video up once it’s sorted 😊🙏🏼 God bless brother
finally a guy who actually did it. tired of hearing everyone asking , "hey bro will this turbo/super charger fit my NA."
Awesome Video.
So wheres part 2 ? Did you get it installed? I’m was hoping to see the outcome of this one, thanks
I have a 2015 kia optima. I'll be doing this to my car! Good video. I now know what I need to run boost
Hey!
That's great, i have an update video regarding this project you may be interested in. Basically, these don't put out much air in larger displacement engines (Even for our 1.8L it's small) unless you really underdrive it, and even then it will have issues top end. But if you get it set up link it~~!
Thanks,
- Jonathan
@@that5thgenhyundaielantraguy oh ok. Thanks for replying. I found some headers, so I think I'm going to do a few bolt ons and probably a tune. I can't do to much because I have a lifetime engine warranty and I don't want to mess that up
@@StraightOuttaContent Hello,
Of course! That's great that they have headers for your car as well dude! Warranties are something to consider. Technically they have to prove that whatever mod you put on caused the failure to void a warranty repair, but what it comes down to is how the Company itself, in your case KIA, works and deals with warranty repairs with the KIA Dealerships. Sometimes it can work out, sometimes it doesn't. When it doesn't work out it usually isn't worth pushing it, since while you are protected by Magnuson Moss, that would mean a possible legal battle, which would probably cost more than just repairing out of warranty and paying for the repair your self.
Thanks!,
- Jonathan
Do you need the turbo kit to install it wit the supercharger, or you can just install the supercharger just like that?
On a 2014 and newer Elantra the intake valves stay open a little bit during compression cycle leting some air from the camber escape so I would be curious if it works
Yo love it
I just bought a 2013 Elantra GLS and looking to mod it up, gonna start with cold air intake and sport exhaust like usual. But would like to add some serious horsepower soon as well. Glad I found a channel that has someone working on it too!
Hey Michael,
That's great dude!!
- Jonathan
I’m doing the same bro
Hmu so I can see the progress
Looking forward to the results, I got a 2012 Elantra with a 1.6l gamma engine.
Nice man! I just saw the new video about our new 7th gen elantra (From Asian Petrolhead, he's featured on my channel page so feel free to check his content out) ! It all looks great (not big on the side profile though). I was let down that they wanted to put a CVT in the new generation, since they do have issues, and are a terrible repair, despite their efficiency. Hopefully they put in a nice 7speed DCT or standard transmission in the N-Line variant for the car; can't wait!
Can this supercharger work for the 2016 kia soul ex with the 2.0 litter gdi engine ?
Also what site did ypu buy it if of ?
Do you recommend buying one off rbay or amazon ?
Hi! I have a 2017 Elantra AD with 2.0 mpi (G4NA). I am also looking for some information about how I can add a small turbo and have some concerns if those kind of engines can handle such additional power. Can you suggest something?
On that style of Supercharger there is not forced through the middle however around the sides. The channel engineering explained has a perfect example of it
Hey,
Thanks for the information!
How did this end up working long-term and what was overall cost ? Did you hit your hp number ?
Where did you get the supercharger from?
Can this super work or fit on sonata 2017
I've been researching these AMRs i have a 1.8l Cruze i am going to put one on. you are pushing it with anything larger than 1.6l the larger the engine the faster the blower has to spin you will have to find a pulley small enough to get it to spin fast enough to feed the engine The 500 stands for the 500cc of air it pushes per rotation of its pulley ideally you would want to find one that will spin the blower twice per harmonic balancer revolution 1:2 ratio giving you 1000cc of air theres a bit ofmath involved with these things they are rated at 16kRPMs spinning them too fast will damage them meaning you have to keep the RPMs down if you plan on running a very small pulley. It can be done just has to be done right
Hi ! I have the european model of elantra with the 1.6 with 96 kw. Do you think supercharging would be Worth it ? Considering the expenses and the needed work . Appreciate your time 💪🏻
Hello Rsy Cristian! Thanks for stopping by and I appreciate it!! I will have a major update about this project in a video soon which touches on what you are asking. But essentially it would be worth it, but the trouble, as you know, with our car is that space in our engine bay is very sparse, and getting an AMR500 in (Despite it's small size!) is still a challenge. Because you have the 1.6L it will be more suited for this supercharger than my 1.8L. Like any car project set aside time to plan and work out what you can before taking things apart, research more of course, and if it is your only drivable vehicle(Like my car) plan even more! :) If you are able to make it fit and get a bracket setup made, I want to see it man! I recommend checking out Zuk4x4's channel ( He is in comments) and he has a lot of wisdom in regards to getting these to work.
Thanks,
- Jonathan
Hi, i have a 2012 elantra 1.8L engine. I'm also planning to turbo charge my elantra. Hope this goes well. 😊
Any update yet? God bless. 😊🙏
@@joshuasantiago2356 Hi Joshua - God Bless You Too 🥰! I have not installed yet; I returned it, Update Video Here! th-cam.com/video/2Gu-0QScOAg/w-d-xo.html!
Thanks,
- Jon :)
Hey joshua, any updates on your turbo charge Elantra?
Did you ever actually install and test this supercharger? I don't see any update videos about it on your channel and this video was 2 years ago now...
Thank you
Will this fit the 1.8
Let me know how it goes I just bought one for my 2.8 vr6 but I think itll help at low rpms but die our as it winds out. But I don't plan on really going all that fast. Just wanna cruise around town with that whine from the sc lol
Hey dude! Go for it! Yeah the sound I feel is a hit or miss sometimes, when the sound meshes with the engine well it's great, if not, ehh not so much haha. Main thing to keep in mind is pulley size since you are running a 2.8L engine to get the most benefit in your low rpm range! I actually will be posting an update video about the supercharger project soon as well. But I have 4 other videos I am going to be uploading very soon! Thanks for stopping by!
@@that5thgenhyundaielantraguy i def cant wait to see how you do it!! and yes im gonna get a small pulley and keep rpms low
hi! the amr 500 pushes 0.5l of air per revolution. and has a limit of about 17000rpm. that means the max amount of air it can push is 8500l/min. i think your redline is about 7k? so (2.8/2)x7k= 9800l/min. imho the amr is way small for that engine. if you would like to use al your rpm range the supercharger would have to be geared 3:1 but at that ratio it will create little boost and high mechanical resistance.
That 5TH Gen Hyundai Elantra Guy - I bet getting custom two inch pipe flanges made you can get more from this thing than what people think
I have the same car, so I'm interested in seeing how you pull this off... because these little 4-bangers do need a little help.
Hello,
Sorry for the delay in update, but i am going to make an updated video regarding this. Basically, no i have no installed it yet. But yes! they need a pick-me-up haha.
Thanks,
- Jonathan
Automatics yes; manuals no but I'm adding the same supercharger for more power. That is after I fix how the valves open and close because the way the valves operate is killing some of the engine hp for fuel efficiency but I prefer hp over fuel efficiency anyday
What ever happened with the supercharger did u feel any difference
Just put one in my 2013 1.8 sedan...is very noisy, but definitely possible...just go to fine tune and get it to quiet down
Hey Joshua!
That's great, they typically are pretty loud from what I've heard, and make that whine noise that is characteristic of all superchargers, but definitely post a video dude!
- Jonathan
After I get my fine tuning done,I definitely will....not sure if I would call it a whining sound, maybe more of a screamer.Hopefully It will quiet down after completely finished...at times it sounds like an F1 racer...lol
@@joshuanorwell1669 :D
I really wish the 6th gens with the 2.0 engines get more support :(
Yes! But we got to work on it! - Start a channel for that generation, even if it's simple mods at first, support comes from demand! You can do it~~ :) !!
Where’s the finished video on this
Did you by any chance put the supercharger on your car and will you have a follow up video later on ?
Hey Bryabson,
No not yet ! Update video coming soon!
Thanks for waiting,
- Jonathan
@@that5thgenhyundaielantraguy can’t wait man thank you !
@@bryanson1883 :)
343. halo nerd😌 i like😂
Would really prefer the links. Am interested in doing this but can’t since I don’t know where you got it 🤷♂️
Nice I got a torqamp on mine
I legit am doing this to my 2012 veloster
Where did you buy your supercharger? I have a Veloster too and can’t find them anywhere
@@jakerooney8573 ebay or Amazon Jake ! I'm starting a pretty awesome job soon so more money's coming in just re did my exhaust so can't wait for SC
If you have a (atkinson cycle) adding a supercharger is defecting the process and that's why I am modifying engine from atkinson cycle to otto cycle. Atkinson also robs hp for better fuel economy
Twin scroll?
dont see an update video so im assuming it didnt work out.. way too big for a small space, doesnt seen like youd be able to close the hood even if you got it to work
Did you install this supercharger on your car?? If so can you share that video with me please. I’m gonna do mine too. Going to be summer project. Thanks
Hi Krishna~ No i have not installed it, i actually returned it - I explain everything here in my Update Video Here! > th-cam.com/video/2Gu-0QScOAg/w-d-xo.html
Thanks,
- Jon
I really wanna build a kit for this on my s2000 but I'm sure it doesn't have the breath for 9k rpm... maybe there's a bigger one.
You Are Right! It Would not Support that high RPM and displacement for sure! And under driving it would be taxing on the inner coating, causing too much heat and peeling - BAD!
@@that5thgenhyundaielantraguy Well but the thing is... The blower rpm is separate from engine rpm because it's adjusted by pully size so I can have it at it's optimal max rpm when the engine is at 9k. The stock airbox on the s2000 is huge, there's room for 2 of these blowers if I could make a mounting bracket. In parallel would that double the psi?
@@FroztiProductions Hmm, I know they have dual turbo setups for various reasons. I looked it up and that would be a series setup, and would have it's own engineering challenges since both are going to need to be on the belt. Yes changing pulley size will allow you to control the setup independently of RPM, I am just sayin in general it would be hard, because of the high rpm and engine displacement; but that's why tuning and mods are fun! - The challenge and result! - If you do it let me know!
Thanks,
- Jonathan
Can works with veloster 2012 1.6 ?
Hello Hossam,
Well everything regarding a supercharger is making it fit in bay, and line up with belt. I believe the 1.6 already had a turbo? In which case you wouldn't want to swap it with this. Just upgrade your turbo.
Thanks!
- Jonathan
Hey bro what happend with this project I have the same car and it is interesting to me, i mean I want to know if its posible or not😅
Where did you buy the supercharge? And how much did it cost?
It's on aliexpress for less than 300$ with shipping
where PT 2 at?
Hey There James! I have not installed yet; I returned it, Update Video Here! th-cam.com/video/2Gu-0QScOAg/w-d-xo.html!
Thanks,
- Jon :)
Did you installed??
Hey there,
No not yet, I have a dedicated update video coming up soon.
Thanks,
- Jonathan
Is your car automatic?
All can I do to a 2011
is it work perfectly
Hey Weng,
No it's not installed yet, update video soon.
Thanks,
-Jonathan
You installed it?
Hey!
I will have an update video regarding this project in general soon, sorry for the wait!
- Jonathan
When are you going to install it?
Hello! Not installed yet, but Update Video Here! th-cam.com/video/2Gu-0QScOAg/w-d-xo.html!
Thanks,
- Jon :)
Are you still doing this?Have you chosen otherwise?
Part 2 ?
Soon!
- Jonathan
I'm guessing he wasn't able to do it.
Hey,
Sorry i have been holding on off this for a while. I am going to be uploading a dedicated update video because i have been doing a lot of research regarding it.
Thanks,
- Jonathan
Never went any further with this.??
Hey there what happened with that fckng supercharger project??
Amr 500 is not going to put you near your goals
Hey Thanks For The Comment :) Yes I know, other reasons why it won't work as well ! I have an update video as to why this project is being changed here > th-cam.com/video/2Gu-0QScOAg/w-d-xo.html
Thanks Again,
- Jonathan
bet you won't make any power with this. this little supercharger is made for engines 150hp or less. You will just push in super heated air in to your engine that will probably end up making less power then stock for many reasons...
Yes exactly Ray!~Among other reasons. That's why this project is being changed and i have returned the unit! Update Video Here!
Update
Hey Wilfrido, Update Video Here! > th-cam.com/video/2Gu-0QScOAg/w-d-xo.html
Thanks,
- Jon
do you have instagram
Nice your vid was good information and nice bible verse.
good video, hate the stupid bible beater verses getting in the way of the actual content though.
why the religious stuff?
disliked
What Cult is this ? Why religious indoctrination zizn za Hyundai video?
I stopped watching when I saw bible quotes.
hey man, do you have an instagram, i’d love to follow, i have a 2020 hyundai elantra and was wondering if you’d be down to talk builds