Saurabh Kalia had been complaining of firing from the highest feature since January-February. They had even used Anti Aircraft guns to fire on Saurabh’s post. Someone had even seen the bunker built on the ridge line. All this was reported. Please watch the interview of Major Bhatnagar by Maj Gen Yash Mor.
@@S_V19, no go ahead sir. Please elaborate. Young officers lost their lives and Generals were busy covering up. Fauji kid here sir. Seen and heard some things. Ask the war widows and ask Capt. Saurabh Kalia's parents.
Looking at the accounts of Brig devender singh, Maj Manish Bhatnagar etc.. looks like senior Army generals got away without any repercussion and those who were operationally involved didn’t get their due. 25years later still many lessons to be learnt and guilty to be punished !
Finally general sab has arrived to defends his other generals who caused this blunder and he was abroad so he didn’t knew anything. Numerous soldiers died due to Incompetent generals and they court Martial people like major Manish Bhatnagar who first like many other raised voice that there is an intrusion by PAK Army.
Infiltration was detected well in early February and March. More than 8 times alarm was raised by Sourav Kalia's team but no action was taken by the then Generals . 2 patrols were lost in the initial stages just because Infiltration was treated as low threat. Responsibility should be fixed for the lives lost due to No early action taken by top the decision makers.
Saurabh Kalia was KIAed in June. Then how tf he raised 8 alarms in Feb? Plus in Feb all the peaks are heavily covered in snow and no recce are sent during winter. You need to identify the enemy before you pool in brigades. Local Area commanders told GoC in C, NC that this was Infiltration bid by Pak "militants". Localised CI/CT Ops were launched but scale of infiltration was unknown. Jab pata nhi hota toh bhauka mat kar
Mr Malik said the Intelligence reports negated a war by Pakistan. 21:41. If one watches Major Bhatnagar’s interview, the IB had warned the military in January that Pakistan was raising troops on the other side and it was upto something. Mr Gokhale didn’t ask any pointed questions. This interview was just about glorifying an inept General.
Had Mr Gokhale watched the interview of Major Bhatnagar by Maj Gen Yash Mor, maybe he wouldn’t have called the military leadership “wise”. 00:33. Also I was shocked and appalled at Mr Malik’s statement, that he wouldn’t “mind” “getting a few casualties “. 03:25. Would he “mind “ if his son was a casualty in war ? His disregard for human life and treating the soldiers like cannon fodder is appalling. He spoke about casualties, as if he was talking about sheep and goats. The death of one Indian Soldier, is one too many. A good military leader is constantly thinking about the lives of his troops. He doesn’t want anyone to die under his command. He would rather put his life at risk than lose the life of his troops. Mr Malik’s callousness has been documented by ex RAW chief Vikram Sood in his video. This war was a fiasco from the get go. To cover up for their mistakes, the upper brass made more mistakes. Please watch the interview of Major Bhatnagar by Maj Gen Yash Mor.
Mr Nitin could have done justice with this interaction with the general by asking a pin point question on the claims made by Maj Bhatnagar that sufficient intelligence inputs were fed to the higher HQ by the troops on ground about the deployment of Pak troops in our areas from as early as Feb/Mar 1999. Without asking the troubling questions, the whole interview appears like a PR exercise.
Indian army was denied free operations by poet turned PM Vajpayee. He did not allow indian army to cross LOC and wallop the pakistanis from behind. This strategy would have caused less casualties to jawans. The army also withdraw forces from ladakh which allowed PLA to capture more unguarded indian land. 🤦🏼
There are soo many questions on generals wrong decisions which cause many casualty.... No accountability....... 😡😡😡 those sitting in delhi AC office have no idea of ground scenario...
When you have an enemy constantly looking for an opening to exploit it is impossible to remain completely secure forever. Look at the war in Ukraine-Russia. Russia has lost 300K dead and Ukraine something close to 150-200K dead. They are not complaining. We need to develop a stronger backbone. In all our Wars since Independence, India has lost only 20K soldiers or fewer! 527 is not a large number at all given the high points they had occupied.
@@mrahulkeya8142 Why did Budhwar order the posts to be vacated, when it was reported that there was infiltration ? When it was reported that the enemy had occupied some heights and was firing on our posts, why did Budhwar order the posts to be vacated ? If he had not done that, we would not have lost 500+ soldiers in retaking those posts, not counting other expenses besides loss of precious life. He should be court martialed.
@@anwarsadat6825 What steps did Srivastava take, when it was reported to him that the enemy has occupied a high feature, built a bunker and we have lost many soldiers, including a JCO as a result of enemy firing ? Why did Budhwar, order our posts to be vacated, after he was informed of infiltration by the enemy ? It was, like Major Bhatnagar said, as if our Generals were working for the enemy . Had our Generals not been so incompetent, there would have been no Kargil War. if we had not vacated our posts for the Pakis to walk in and take them. Srivastava and Budhwar should have been Court Martialed. But Surinder Singh, Brig Devinder Singh and Major Bhatnagar were made scapegoats to cover for Budhwar's and Srivasta's mistakes. And Malik did nothing because he was friends with Budhwar. So nobody was held accountable.
Same thing happening in Jammu region... It is very important for Army to take a vigliannce at the LOC ..... The situation can become worse at any time 😢
@@iXpress Casualties will happen. But every Army leader, whether Platoon commander, Company Commander, Brigadier, or Colonel. War or anti-terrorist operations. It is utmost in every Leaders mind, that no soldier under my command should die. The leader rather die than any of his soldiers. Because the leader thinks, that, the soldier has a family, a wife, children. They don't want any soldier to die. That is what they are taught. Not to march ahead foolishly and have all his men killed. If you talk to any responsible leader, that is what they will tell you. I have heard this over and over again. That is why Major Bhatnagar and Brigadier Devinder did not lead their men into certain death. Because they valued their soldiers life. Not like V P Malik, who said, he doesn't mind a few casualties. What a moron.
Once war has started placing restrictions like not to cross the LOC is not advisable. It leads to unnecessary casualties. For political reasons war aims could be kept limited
Mr Gokhale you should have asked very pointed questions like what was the role of division commanders? information shared by Ground officers like major Sourabh Kalia and major Manish was ignored by their COs? By the army, chief should depend on the intelligence of other agencies when army intelligence, so strong.? How many officers above the rank of Brigade year were held responsible for all such failures? How political leadership can come to know whether the infants are regular, army or Mujahid and listen until the army working on the ground provides the same?
Thanks god COAS not visited Kargil to see the PAK troops( ground situation) .If it was so then there was a shame to Indian army about the General may or may not be alive today. Govt Should stop sending officers above Maj Gen for tour outside the country. Jai jawan Jai Kisan
Gen VP Makik Sir , we faught a war under the head ship of a philosophical pm. we had not been allowed beyond lAC. had we had been to take decision as per military strategy, many young shoulders were not required to sacrifice their life. salute to you Sir.
Expected question from non-defence person but you will have to understand how a war game is played internationally. Hope, you will be sincere to mine my words.
Appreciate the bravery and sacrifice of the Indian Armed Forces. Guys stop laughing and giggling when discussing a very serious matter. Why were the Pak Military and Mujahideen allowed by Indian Commanders to come deep into Indian territory of upto 100 plus Kms. On ground responsibility was of the Top military brass. Hundreds of Our brave soldiers died due to the fallacious strategy. It’s a shame that I have to listen to this General who could have prevented the whole Kargil episode if he was on ground inspections time to time and carrying out Practical military exercises and coordinating with field commanders.
General I am a layman who read extensively on various battles from WW 1 onwards. In my opinion it is absolute foolishness to hope Pakistan will respect the understanding to leave the post vacant. They are treacherous. No one will leave a house open when the owners go on a vacation trusting the people. What could have been done on the entire area was to hire , say 500 villagers, by paying Rs. 1000 a month for each to monitor and report to the army if there is any unusual activities. With a cost of Rs 5 lakhs a month for the winter season would have saved hundreds of lives and subsequent battle cost.
The nation was lead by a poet PM. Vajpayee was temperamentally not suitable to fight a war as PM. He ordered our forces to not cross border. The top generals had never seen actual war. Top commanders did everything to cover up their failures and shift the blame to junior Brigadier and Colonel, Major rank officers.
you should be ashamed of intelligence failure leading to so many loss of lives of our young officers and jawans ... Nikhil .... shame on you to end this great series on a political tone !
Its a stupid decision by the army not to cross the LOC . The army requested Vajpayee permission to cross LOC and attack the pak intruders from the rear. But Vajpayee refused and indian army forced to fight head on pak intruders sitting at higher ground. This caused massive loss to indian army.
@@Red.bulldozer3How will ensure uninterrupted ammo supply if your country gets sanctioned?? We don't have local military industrial complex. IAF Mirages were fitted with Israeli Guidance Kits on emergency basis. Had there been a sanction..no one would've gave us the supplies. Logistics win you war, not "Jazba"
@@umeshpawar2656 Don’t believe what I say. Please watch Major Batnagar’s interview with Maj Gen Yash Mor, Vaad and Kanwar Sandhu. Also watch multiple interviews of Brigadier Devinder Singh.
Pakistan ka jab Dil karta hai...He never hesitate to cross LOC. Hum chamchagiri karte hai.. Political leaders ke Nazar mein hamari koi value nahi... Military leadership bhi kuch theek nahi hai...Kargil war mein actually hamari haar hue hai. Jawan ki causality kam ho sakti the lekin We suffered because of poor political leadership as well some Military commander has shut their mouth merely for their promotion
The country should held this gentleman accountable for each and every soldiers lost in this war. It is his direct failure. Also the countrymen should hear podcast of Brig. D. Singh, Brig K. Singh, Maj. Bhatnagar, etc. everyone will know the truth of this gentleman and his subordinates.
Please go through all podcasts and interview given by Brig Devinder Singh, Brig Surinder Singh, Maj Manish Bhatnakar and Shiv Kunal Verma. Except Lt. Col YK Joshi, then C/O of 13 JAK Rif, no other C/O and 2 I/C rose above the rank of Brig. Some of the highest gallantry winners also retired as Colonels. Someone like Brig. Devinder couldn't rose to a general level with no medals or awards to his Crediton. Batalik is a completely forgotten sector by the then leadership. It was young officers and men who won us the war. Generalship was a complete failure. There was no intel failure. There was sufficient intel available from various sources. And what was Gen Malik doing in Poland? Evidences are available in public domain. @Bharat Shakti, please get Maj Gen VS Budhwar and some acquaintance of Lt Gen Kishan Pal on your show.
Mr Gokhale, you have been associated with the Armed Forces since a very long time. Would you please ask the Govt as to why One Rank One Pension, third revision, has not yet been given to the Ex-Servicemen, when it was due on 1st July 2024? The second revision too was given after 3 years, due to litigation in the Supreme Court. Is this the respect this country has for it's retired Defence Personnel?
Why not use Air force effectively and Artillery? Our politicians should have been sent in leading the men. In the future, we must elect people who fought in wars.
@@melvin6432 this has and is the problems the armed forces have to face when we have a collation government and an opposition and when i say opposition means all who opposes only weakens the country's resolve to finish a war.
@@nickhartnet4192 not you sir for your kind information ,I am pointing out at that person who is spreading wrong information and useless logical statement
I hope Capt Kalia's & his squads' sacrifice is mentioned as well. It's easy to say casualties but their deaths were pure murder. Not what is done to soldiers. That needs to be brought out effectively as well. It will be gruesome but it's a story which is not mentioned enough.
Sir but infiltration had started much before Lahore declaration. Human intelligence of regular fire and report of Capt Saurabh Kalia were not taken seriously.
Please watch Major Bhatnagar’s interview by Maj Gen Yash Mor. IB had informed the military by February that Pak was raising NLI on the other side and it was upto something. But the warning was ignored.
First General Malik under his watch neglected Brigade Commander's notes on occupation of heights. So like Gen Thapar he slept over. No bravado will erase the major failure. He should have been asked to resign and accept responsibility.
Himself making statements of failure of his officers including him. On return somebody called for CCS meeting on Sunday. He was reluctant. It shows poor army intelligence and accepting his sub ordinate views. VCOAS then also responsible for the failure.
"When India stood behind its forces". The way it reads makes Indians a public who rarely does so. Why this sudden interest over Kargil. India didn't lose territory, drove back the intruders and secured the original border. In comparison 2020 Ladakh and Arunachal Pradesh skirmish smears the face of India with humiliation, loss of lives of jawans, loss of 4000 Sq.Kms of Indian territory and the disgusting surrender and subjugation to the PLA. The Prime Minister lies to Parliament, "Koi Ghusa Nhi". The cowardice, hypocrisy and national shame cast on the nation by its own Prime Minister. Why that isn't a subject of discussion in the Parliament? Modi isn't in majority on his own so the apprehension of venegence from Modi isn't so concerning presently.
Was this to counter 2 podcasts of Kanwar Sandhu and VAAD. Why did Chief not sack Generals Krishan Pal( zoo maker), AC NC who flew to SC to take guidance from Gen S Padmanabhan. And ofcourse Gen Badhwar. It's Okay to accept that sometimes some judgements go wrong. Even now one can correct himself. School Type, Place Type affiliations should be till academy. Not till Generalship.
Bhai agar tum apne aap ko defence analyst manta he toh general saab ko puchna tha ki sachai kya he. Why no stern action taken Against the third class general of his team badhwar and many other who misused their power and 527 bravehearts laid down their lives for.
failure of intelligence and top army brass ! young officers n jawans had to pay the price for the ill conceived military plans during the initial period. white paper should be made public n guilty punished.
This General cheated Major Bhatnagar and court marshaled him when it was he himself who is the main culprit for kargil war. He slept on warnings for a long time.
I feel ,527 officers and jawans lost due to poor intelligence, to assess whether they r soldiers or hardcore terrorists,poor management of display of troops to fought the war and the same unable to communicate to govt . Govt should also check all the officers selection dozier who are involved in war including from Capt to COAS to assess whether they have the qualities of leadership in assessment in paper and ground realities.
Very captivating conversation. Insightful and detailed recount of the conflict which has directly or directly shaped our politico millitary psyche in the 21st century
I understand India didn’t have equipments and technology at the time of Kargil. Did Pakistan possess advanced equipments and technology? If not, why India did not cross LOC and take the fight to Pakistan controlled areas?
CBI FIR is required to punish top brass for misleading nation on kargil, dereliction of duties, allwoing live telecast and for criminal misconduct i.e.more than 500 army officials killed and thousands suffered serious injuries.Some reports in media suggests that than Army Chief went to Foreign tour after war.Now reports are coming that they punished junior officials for raising voice.CBI INVESTIGATION IS REQUIRED AFTER REGISTRATION OF REGULAR CASE.ADVOCATE
I noticed some replies or remarks from viewers why the General was so casual when he talks about casualties. I must say when any army action is involved they assess causalities, because battle means, apart from win or loss, it involves causalities , horrible injuries and suffering to the soldiers and their families. On D day Allies suffered some 4,000 plus killed, in Dieppie raid in 10 hours of battle 3723 were killed, in operation Market Garden Allies suffered 15,000 to 17000 causalities in eight days, in WW 2 the Allied military causalities were 51 million and in Pearl harbour attack American suffered 2,403 killed. Wars are horrible. Russia suffered 8.7 million military persons killed.
Hello mr Bullshit Shakti Only ask two questions from malik babu How far was Line of Control from Boofer Guns , Mushkoh Valley What was the Maximum Range of Boofers If he answers these two , you will know what malik babu is hiding
ask him why those young officers never saw great career progression in army. and why generals who didn't perform as expected faced no repercussions. nitin you should do journalism and not lip service to these generals to get the access. i have not seen u raising questions which should be raised . if you have to do yes sir all the time then anyone can do the interview. whats the point of you calling yourself journalist
Saurabh Kalia had been complaining of firing from the highest feature since January-February. They had even used Anti Aircraft guns to fire on Saurabh’s post. Someone had even seen the bunker built on the ridge line. All this was reported. Please watch the interview of Major Bhatnagar by Maj Gen Yash Mor.
The less I discuss Yash more, the better.His bias is well known.
@@S_V19, no go ahead sir. Please elaborate. Young officers lost their lives and Generals were busy covering up. Fauji kid here sir. Seen and heard some things. Ask the war widows and ask Capt. Saurabh Kalia's parents.
Major BHATNAGAR was the one to see bunkers
Looking at the accounts of Brig devender singh, Maj Manish Bhatnagar etc.. looks like senior Army generals got away without any repercussion and those who were operationally involved didn’t get their due. 25years later still many lessons to be learnt and guilty to be punished !
Finally general sab has arrived to defends his other generals who caused this blunder and he was abroad so he didn’t knew anything. Numerous soldiers died due to Incompetent generals and they court Martial people like major Manish Bhatnagar who first like many other raised voice that there is an intrusion by PAK Army.
Infiltration was detected well in early February and March. More than 8 times alarm was raised by Sourav Kalia's team but no action was taken by the then Generals . 2 patrols were lost in the initial stages just because Infiltration was treated as low threat. Responsibility should be fixed for the lives lost due to No early action taken by top the decision makers.
Detected* . And yeah brother you are right, these are some unanswered but important questions.
@@a.k4394 Thanks for correction 🙏
@@journeyofarajput ho jata bhai typing me error kabhi kabhi no issues.
Yes It was detected but Indian intelligence thought It was not big threat
Saurabh Kalia was KIAed in June. Then how tf he raised 8 alarms in Feb? Plus in Feb all the peaks are heavily covered in snow and no recce are sent during winter.
You need to identify the enemy before you pool in brigades. Local Area commanders told GoC in C, NC that this was Infiltration bid by Pak "militants". Localised CI/CT Ops were launched but scale of infiltration was unknown.
Jab pata nhi hota toh bhauka mat kar
Mr Malik said the Intelligence reports negated a war by Pakistan. 21:41. If one watches Major Bhatnagar’s interview, the IB had warned the military in January that Pakistan was raising troops on the other side and it was upto something. Mr Gokhale didn’t ask any pointed questions. This interview was just about glorifying an inept General.
Had Mr Gokhale watched the interview of Major Bhatnagar by Maj Gen Yash Mor, maybe he wouldn’t have called the military leadership “wise”. 00:33. Also I was shocked and appalled at Mr Malik’s statement, that he wouldn’t “mind” “getting a few casualties “. 03:25. Would he “mind “ if his son was a casualty in war ? His disregard for human life and treating the soldiers like cannon fodder is appalling. He spoke about casualties, as if he was talking about sheep and goats. The death of one Indian Soldier, is one too many. A good military leader is constantly thinking about the lives of his troops. He doesn’t want anyone to die under his command. He would rather put his life at risk than lose the life of his troops. Mr Malik’s callousness has been documented by ex RAW chief Vikram Sood in his video. This war was a fiasco from the get go. To cover up for their mistakes, the upper brass made more mistakes. Please watch the interview of Major Bhatnagar by Maj Gen Yash Mor.
Thank you, I went and watched the video by Maj. Gen Mor and Maj. Bhatnagar. Eye opening conversation and pertinent unanswered questions.
sheer case of negligence, as the General VPK you failed the nation, though the young officers and soldiers won the war for us
Not the general, but the babus and ministers.
@@nickhartnet4192Babus and Politicians don't gather intelligence lodu
I cannot agree with you more @1balochi
Mr Nitin could have done justice with this interaction with the general by asking a pin point question on the claims made by Maj Bhatnagar that sufficient intelligence inputs were fed to the higher HQ by the troops on ground about the deployment of Pak troops in our areas from as early as Feb/Mar 1999. Without asking the troubling questions, the whole interview appears like a PR exercise.
Army intelligence had no clue in kargil then more recently they had no clue in Ladakh … something is surely wrong
“Army intelligence” is an oxymoron 😂
Indian army is greatest military,but not sure the top management is always sleeping and get surprised
the book title should be Kargil: From Blunder to Success
Absolutely.
young officers sacrificed their lives sir.
Indian army was denied free operations by poet turned PM Vajpayee.
He did not allow indian army to cross LOC and wallop the pakistanis from behind. This strategy would have caused less casualties to jawans.
The army also withdraw forces from ladakh which allowed PLA to capture more unguarded indian land. 🤦🏼
There are soo many questions on generals wrong decisions which cause many casualty.... No accountability....... 😡😡😡 those sitting in delhi AC office have no idea of ground scenario...
Proud to be Indian!! We should keep motivating/informing our kids on sacrifice our armed force has done....
Send ur kid under command of such generals
He is the man responsible for Kargil
Now giving us the lecture
Becouse of that times gernal and higher officers neglancy we have lost our brave young soldiers almost 550 and thousand of disable
Hard question is. Can someone explain 527 killed in action while watching war from drawing room and who should be held responsible
You please tell me strategy to defeat pak in Kargil war general
When you have an enemy constantly looking for an opening to exploit it is impossible to remain completely secure forever. Look at the war in Ukraine-Russia. Russia has lost 300K dead and Ukraine something close to 150-200K dead. They are not complaining. We need to develop a stronger backbone. In all our Wars since Independence, India has lost only 20K soldiers or fewer! 527 is not a large number at all given the high points they had occupied.
@@mrahulkeya8142 Why did Budhwar order the posts to be vacated, when it was reported that there was infiltration ? When it was reported that the enemy had occupied some heights and was firing on our posts, why did Budhwar order the posts to be vacated ? If he had not done that, we would not have lost 500+ soldiers in retaking those posts, not counting other expenses besides loss of precious life. He should be court martialed.
@@anwarsadat6825 What steps did Srivastava take, when it was reported to him that the enemy has occupied a high feature, built a bunker and we have lost many soldiers, including a JCO as a result of enemy firing ? Why did Budhwar, order our posts to be vacated, after he was informed of infiltration by the enemy ? It was, like Major Bhatnagar said, as if our Generals were working for the enemy . Had our Generals not been so incompetent, there would have been no Kargil War. if we had not vacated our posts for the Pakis to walk in and take them. Srivastava and Budhwar should have been Court Martialed. But Surinder Singh, Brig Devinder Singh and Major Bhatnagar were made scapegoats to cover for Budhwar's and Srivasta's mistakes. And Malik did nothing because he was friends with Budhwar. So nobody was held accountable.
Soo many young officers have died due to sheer negligence of Indian army top brass
It was the young officers who laid down their lives. The Generals were incompetent and sleeping.
Same thing happening in Jammu region...
It is very important for Army to take a vigliannce at the LOC .....
The situation can become worse at any time 😢
accha... only you understand, Army doesn't know this ....2paise Opinion wala 😂
Sir with due respect, To say that you do not mind taking few casualties is very much unacceptable
war hai, not your party club, casualties will happen, you like sugar coating...
@@iXpress Casualties will happen. But every Army leader, whether Platoon commander, Company Commander, Brigadier, or Colonel. War or anti-terrorist operations. It is utmost in every Leaders mind, that no soldier under my command should die. The leader rather die than any of his soldiers. Because the leader thinks, that, the soldier has a family, a wife, children. They don't want any soldier to die. That is what they are taught. Not to march ahead foolishly and have all his men killed. If you talk to any responsible leader, that is what they will tell you. I have heard this over and over again. That is why Major Bhatnagar and Brigadier Devinder did not lead their men into certain death. Because they valued their soldiers life. Not like V P Malik, who said, he doesn't mind a few casualties. What a moron.
@@TheMonk7423 well said
Once war has started placing restrictions like not to cross the LOC is not advisable. It leads to unnecessary casualties. For political reasons war aims could be kept limited
Mr Gokhale you should have asked very pointed questions like what was the role of division commanders? information shared by Ground officers like major Sourabh Kalia and major Manish was ignored by their COs? By the army, chief should depend on the intelligence of other agencies when army intelligence, so strong.? How many officers above the rank of Brigade year were held responsible for all such failures? How political leadership can come to know whether the infants are regular, army or Mujahid and listen until the army working on the ground provides the same?
Thanks god COAS not visited Kargil to see the PAK troops( ground situation) .If it was so then there was a shame to Indian army about the General may or may not be alive today. Govt Should stop sending officers above Maj Gen for tour outside the country. Jai jawan Jai Kisan
Gen VP Makik Sir , we faught a war under the head ship of a philosophical pm. we had not been allowed beyond lAC. had we had been to take decision as per military strategy, many young shoulders were not required to sacrifice their life. salute to you Sir.
You should have taken stand like FM Sam . U slipped bcoz ur son was not in frontline general. Pity on u
Who will fix accountability, nation lost 100s of youngmen and why Artilery was used very late.Advocate
Expected question from non-defence person but you will have to understand how a war game is played internationally. Hope, you will be sincere to mine my words.
@@Kashyap-Amit So heavy words just for an excuse? 😂😂😂
Black sheeps have no any right to rise any question.
Advocate Jung court room mein kaad tu
Sir for your information,we did not have artillery shells , Israel helped us with shells for bofors ,which took weeks to come by , der aye durust aye
Appreciate the bravery and sacrifice of the Indian Armed Forces. Guys stop laughing and giggling when discussing a very serious matter. Why were the Pak Military and Mujahideen allowed by Indian Commanders to come deep into Indian territory of upto 100 plus Kms. On ground responsibility was of the Top military brass. Hundreds of Our brave soldiers died due to the fallacious strategy. It’s a shame that I have to listen to this General who could have prevented the whole Kargil episode if he was on ground inspections time to time and carrying out Practical military exercises and coordinating with field commanders.
Only fools fight fair in war !!! LOC should've been crossed on the very first day intrusion was confirmed.
General I am a layman who read extensively on various battles from WW 1 onwards. In my opinion it is absolute foolishness to hope Pakistan will respect the understanding to leave the post vacant. They are treacherous. No one will leave a house open when the owners go on a vacation trusting the people. What could have been done on the entire area was to hire , say 500 villagers, by paying Rs. 1000 a month for each to monitor and report to the army if there is any unusual activities. With a cost of Rs 5 lakhs a month for the winter season would have saved hundreds of lives and subsequent battle cost.
The nation was lead by a poet PM. Vajpayee was temperamentally not suitable to fight a war as PM. He ordered our forces to not cross border. The top generals had never seen actual war. Top commanders did everything to cover up their failures and shift the blame to junior Brigadier and Colonel, Major rank officers.
you should be ashamed of intelligence failure leading to so many loss of lives of our young officers and jawans ... Nikhil .... shame on you to end this great series on a political tone !
We suffer heavy casualties in the battle of Tololing and Tiger Hill
Our brave soldiers sacrificed their lives but officers sitting in ac rooms were busy in party.
Its a stupid decision by the army not to cross the LOC .
The army requested Vajpayee permission to cross LOC and attack the pak intruders from the rear.
But Vajpayee refused and indian army forced to fight head on pak intruders sitting at higher ground.
This caused massive loss to indian army.
No it was a good decision strategically.... We've got international support by that and pakistan didn't they were the agressors
@@tanmayvaidya5182 why you need international support to recover your own land?😂
@@Red.bulldozer3How will ensure uninterrupted ammo supply if your country gets sanctioned??
We don't have local military industrial complex.
IAF Mirages were fitted with Israeli Guidance Kits on emergency basis. Had there been a sanction..no one would've gave us the supplies.
Logistics win you war, not "Jazba"
Who all are army General came here to comment how war should be fought. Giving advices to the ex General. Amazing.
@@umeshpawar2656 Don’t believe what I say. Please watch Major Batnagar’s interview with Maj Gen Yash Mor, Vaad and Kanwar Sandhu. Also watch multiple interviews of Brigadier Devinder Singh.
Watch the other side of the story and then talk as if you are a wise old man.
@@prashanthb6521 Thank you wise and young General saahab.
@@umeshpawar2656 You are welcome.
This person caught sleeping while Kargil happened .
Amazing conversation.
Why is the intelligence apparatus of Indian army so weak?
Not allowing the Indian army to cross the LoC during 1999 Kargil War was the biggest blunder committed by the Vajpayee govt. Shameful.
Pakistan ka jab Dil karta hai...He never hesitate to cross LOC. Hum chamchagiri karte hai.. Political leaders ke Nazar mein hamari koi value nahi... Military leadership bhi kuch theek nahi hai...Kargil war mein actually hamari haar hue hai. Jawan ki causality kam ho sakti the lekin We suffered because of poor political leadership as well some Military commander has shut their mouth merely for their promotion
Very articulated interview, a great General. Jaihind.
A great general ? Are you joking ?
India won 1999 Kargil War but this man VP Malik failed miserably. He was clueless. Our young bravehearts won us the Kargil War.
Not crossing border was dumbest idea culprit was atal bihari vajpayee even though if anyone disagree with me 😮😮😮
If we cross the Loc, then our loss count would definitely be very low.
That's why you need a leader like Indira Gandhi. Janata party leaders were/are cow ards
India was not in a condition to sustain a war for a long duration.. It was wise decision
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The country should held this gentleman accountable for each and every soldiers lost in this war. It is his direct failure. Also the countrymen should hear podcast of Brig. D. Singh, Brig K. Singh, Maj. Bhatnagar, etc. everyone will know the truth of this gentleman and his subordinates.
U don't mind casualties !
Ye bhi poochna tha ki GOC in C north ne aisa kya kiya tha ki use SYSM se nawaaza jaaye?
Please go through all podcasts and interview given by Brig Devinder Singh, Brig Surinder Singh, Maj Manish Bhatnakar and Shiv Kunal Verma. Except Lt. Col YK Joshi, then C/O of 13 JAK Rif, no other C/O and 2 I/C rose above the rank of Brig. Some of the highest gallantry winners also retired as Colonels. Someone like Brig. Devinder couldn't rose to a general level with no medals or awards to his Crediton. Batalik is a completely forgotten sector by the then leadership. It was young officers and men who won us the war. Generalship was a complete failure. There was no intel failure. There was sufficient intel available from various sources. And what was Gen Malik doing in Poland? Evidences are available in public domain. @Bharat Shakti, please get Maj Gen VS Budhwar and some acquaintance of Lt Gen Kishan Pal on your show.
Mr Gokhale, you have been associated with the Armed Forces since a very long time. Would you please ask the Govt as to why One Rank One Pension, third revision, has not yet been given to the Ex-Servicemen, when it was due on 1st July 2024? The second revision too was given after 3 years, due to litigation in the Supreme Court. Is this the respect this country has for it's retired Defence Personnel?
The general who caught napping 😂😂
Why not use Air force effectively and Artillery? Our politicians should have been sent in leading the men. In the future, we must elect people who fought in wars.
@@melvin6432 this has and is the problems the armed forces have to face when we have a collation government and an opposition and when i say opposition means all who opposes only weakens the country's resolve to finish a war.
Keyboard warrior
@@mrahulkeya8142 Am 72 years and have served this country as an officer in the armed forces.
@@nickhartnet4192 not you sir for your kind information ,I am pointing out at that person who is spreading wrong information and useless logical statement
I hope Capt Kalia's & his squads' sacrifice is mentioned as well. It's easy to say casualties but their deaths were pure murder. Not what is done to soldiers. That needs to be brought out effectively as well. It will be gruesome but it's a story which is not mentioned enough.
Sir but infiltration had started much before Lahore declaration. Human intelligence of regular fire and report of Capt Saurabh Kalia were not taken seriously.
Please watch Major Bhatnagar’s interview by Maj Gen Yash Mor. IB had informed the military by February that Pak was raising NLI on the other side and it was upto something. But the warning was ignored.
This man, is a traitor, he should be in jail.
Make videos on each Inf bn with the co & coy cdr ,you have already made videos on jk rifles grenediers 18
Nitin Gokhale should expose the shortcomings of Indian army instead of sucking up to the top generals
General your commanders didn't inform u, read Major Bhatnagar, at least now tell the truth.
India won the 1999 Kargil War because of JCOs and Lance Naiks of the Indian army. Top generals failed miserably and should be held accountable.
First General Malik under his watch neglected Brigade Commander's notes on occupation of heights. So like Gen Thapar he slept over. No bravado will erase the major failure. He should have been asked to resign and accept responsibility.
This man VP Malik was holidaying with his wife in Europe when the Kargil War started. Shame on him.
VP Maliks voice is so similar to that of Parvez Musharraf. Strange coincidence.
"I don't mind taking a few casualties".....This man is out of his mind.....Shameful
No good decision was ever made in a swivel chair.
George S. Patton Jr. (WWII US General)
Nitin Gokhale asked easy questions to General VP Malik. A PR exercise?
Just sad to hear our brave men !name as causality's
intelligence failure intelligence failure ... who is responsible for it sir, would you take it as CoAS ?
Gen Malik should have named the accountability of His Subordinate Generals who did nothing n making Zoos
Himself making statements of failure of his officers including him. On return somebody called for CCS meeting on Sunday. He was reluctant. It shows poor army intelligence and accepting his sub ordinate views. VCOAS then also responsible for the failure.
उस समय अगर मोदी जी पीएम होते तो पाकिस्तान के क़ब्ज़े वाला कश्मीर हमारा हो गया होता ।
First report was in Feb 1999
"When India stood behind its forces". The way it reads makes Indians a public who rarely does so. Why this sudden interest over Kargil. India didn't lose territory, drove back the intruders and secured the original border. In comparison 2020 Ladakh and Arunachal Pradesh skirmish smears the face of India with humiliation, loss of lives of jawans, loss of 4000 Sq.Kms of Indian territory and the disgusting surrender and subjugation to the PLA. The Prime Minister lies to Parliament, "Koi Ghusa Nhi". The cowardice, hypocrisy and national shame cast on the nation by its own Prime Minister. Why that isn't a subject of discussion in the Parliament? Modi isn't in majority on his own so the apprehension of venegence from Modi isn't so concerning presently.
Source: Media wing of the CCP 😂
I just served with you as a clear in 11 corps in Jalandhar. and had opportunity of badha khana with Dr Madam ranjana chaudhary
Was this to counter 2 podcasts of Kanwar Sandhu and VAAD.
Why did Chief not sack Generals Krishan Pal( zoo maker), AC NC who flew to SC to take guidance from Gen S Padmanabhan. And ofcourse Gen Badhwar.
It's Okay to accept that sometimes some judgements go wrong. Even now one can correct himself.
School Type, Place Type affiliations should be till academy. Not till Generalship.
Bhai agar tum apne aap ko defence analyst manta he toh general saab ko puchna tha ki sachai kya he. Why no stern action taken Against the third class general of his team badhwar and many other who misused their power and 527 bravehearts laid down their lives for.
failure of intelligence and top army brass ! young officers n jawans had to pay the price for the ill conceived military plans during the initial period. white paper should be made public n guilty punished.
This General cheated Major Bhatnagar and court marshaled him when it was he himself who is the main culprit for kargil war. He slept on warnings for a long time.
Sir
Ham to Lar rahe the hamen Kam pata Bahar kya baat Chalate Ab Sun rahe hain
Bad command in other sectors except batalik.
I feel ,527 officers and jawans lost due to poor intelligence, to assess whether they r soldiers or hardcore terrorists,poor management of display of troops to fought the war and the same unable to communicate to govt . Govt should also check all the officers selection dozier who are involved in war including from Capt to COAS to assess whether they have the qualities of leadership in assessment in paper and ground realities.
This is weird, but is it just me, or does his voice kind of sound similar to Musharraf's?
You are 100 percent correct . I too was wondering same especially if you close your eyes !!
But isn't this Indian occupied territory across the LOC?
Very captivating conversation. Insightful and detailed recount of the conflict which has directly or directly shaped our politico millitary psyche in the 21st century
read Major Manish Bhatnagar
General r main culprit of war and no one ever summoned...why
I understand India didn’t have equipments and technology at the time of Kargil. Did Pakistan possess advanced equipments and technology? If not, why India did not cross LOC and take the fight to Pakistan controlled areas?
The buck stops with???
चाचा चौधरी ?
CBI FIR is required to punish top brass for misleading nation on kargil, dereliction of duties, allwoing live telecast and for criminal misconduct i.e.more than 500 army officials killed and thousands suffered serious injuries.Some reports in media suggests that than Army Chief went to Foreign tour after war.Now reports are coming that they punished junior officials for raising voice.CBI INVESTIGATION IS REQUIRED AFTER REGISTRATION OF REGULAR CASE.ADVOCATE
Our army is brave and ready to sacrifice their lives for the nation and for us, we are proud of our army Jai Hind
Main yuddha mein 1999 men Sath
Bad me sath Nahin
Incompetent general. Criminally incompetent
Let us admit that you could not have managed even of you wanted.
Who is the responsible for maj manish bhatnagar court marshall general bus apni pith thapthapana jante h
Army intelligence was so poor that time........
I noticed some replies or remarks from viewers why the General was so casual when he talks about casualties. I must say when any army action is involved they assess causalities, because battle means, apart from win or loss, it involves causalities , horrible injuries and suffering to the soldiers and their families. On D day Allies suffered some 4,000 plus killed, in Dieppie raid in 10 hours of battle 3723 were killed, in operation Market Garden Allies suffered 15,000 to 17000 causalities in eight days, in WW 2 the Allied military causalities were 51 million and in Pearl harbour attack American suffered 2,403 killed. Wars are horrible. Russia suffered 8.7 million military persons killed.
amazing part is he shamelessly says i was ok to have casualties. how dare you
Koi kam ke nahi hai ye log, yes onthing blame government
Hello mr Bullshit Shakti
Only ask two questions from malik babu
How far was Line of Control from Boofer Guns , Mushkoh Valley
What was the Maximum Range of Boofers
If he answers these two , you will know what malik babu is hiding
Defensive war ???!!
General shame on u
ask him why those young officers never saw great career progression in army. and why generals who didn't perform as expected faced no repercussions. nitin you should do journalism and not lip service to these generals to get the access. i have not seen u raising questions which should be raised . if you have to do yes sir all the time then anyone can do the interview. whats the point of you calling yourself journalist
Keyboard warrior. How successful you are in your career
@@mrahulkeya8142he is not the general of an army
@@pankajahuja2904 I knew he is not general of army
Lack of calculations!!
War mein general ki baat ko ahmiat Deni chahiye but not possible in India